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What stations are there around that have long platforms but a normal
service which takes up a small amount of the platform.

e.g.

Reading West - at most a 3 car turbo will occupy the platform, but the
platform length looks like it could hold a HST. Is is that length so in
times of trouble HST's from the West Country can terminate there?

Newbury Racecourse - 3 platforms, 2 in normal service and both of them
long enough to hold a HST, i guess this was mainly for the times the
railways put on specials for racing. Do charters still use this station
for the races?
Date:20 Sep 2005 12:01:59 -0700   Author:  

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Big Dave wrote:

> What stations are there around that have long platforms but a normal
> service which takes up a small amount of the platform.
> 
> e.g.
> 
> Reading West - at most a 3 car turbo will occupy the platform, but the
> platform length looks like it could hold a HST. Is is that length so in
> times of trouble HST's from the West Country can terminate there?
> 
> Newbury Racecourse - 3 platforms, 2 in normal service and both of them
> long enough to hold a HST, i guess this was mainly for the times the
> railways put on specials for racing. Do charters still use this station
> for the races?
> 


Exeter central is massive compared to a Sprinter.
Date:Tue, 20 Sep 2005 20:06:43 +0100   Author:  

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In message , at 
12:01:59 on Tue, 20 Sep 2005, Big Dave  remarked:

>What stations are there around that have long platforms but a normal
>service which takes up a small amount of the platform.


Nottingham has platforms which regularly take an HST plus a 3-car DMU. 
I'm sure they are somewhat longer than that.

At times they have just a 1-car Central trains "dogbox".
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Date:Tue, 20 Sep 2005 20:16:53 +0100   Author:  

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Big Dave  wrote:

> What stations are there around that have long platforms but a normal
> service which takes up a small amount of the platform.
> 
> Reading West 
> Newbury Racecourse 


Scarborough.... feels like you can walk to Seamer along the loooooooong
platform that goes right out by Falsgrave box ;P

pete
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Date:Tue, 20 Sep 2005 20:20:59 +0100   Author:  

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Roland Perry wrote:

> At times they have just a 1-car Central trains "dogbox".


Gt Yarmouth can hold about 10 IC carriages and a few locos, but most 
services are formed of a 156.

Daily IC set service has now been axed in favour of a mini bus and the 
weekend summer 47 service has ended. You could probably fit the entire 
Norwich Sprinter fleet in that that platform!
Date:Tue, 20 Sep 2005 20:23:12 +0100   Author:  

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Big Dave wrote:

> What stations are there around that have long platforms but a normal
> service which takes up a small amount of the platform.
>

Chester no3 platform.
Crewe no6 platform.
Manchester Picc. 13/14 platforms.
Shrewsbury 4/7 platforms.
Bolton no3 platform.
Date:20 Sep 2005 12:52:36 -0700   Author:  

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"Big Dave"  wrote in message 
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> What stations are there around that have long platforms but a normal
> service which takes up a small amount of the platform.
>
> e.g.
>
> Reading West - at most a 3 car turbo will occupy the platform, but the
> platform length looks like it could hold a HST. Is is that length so in
> times of trouble HST's from the West Country can terminate there?
>
> Newbury Racecourse - 3 platforms, 2 in normal service and both of them
> long enough to hold a HST, i guess this was mainly for the times the
> railways put on specials for racing. Do charters still use this station
> for the races?


HSTs *do* use Newbury Racecourse on some race days, as FGW either put extra 
stops in services or, occasionally, run an additional using an HST.
Date:Tue, 20 Sep 2005 21:00:34 +0100   Author:  

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Big Dave wrote:


> What stations are there around that have long platforms but a normal
> service which takes up a small amount of the platform.
> 


Is Pontypridd, S. Wales, still famous for having a very long platform? I know it 
was about 1/3 mile at one stage of its life.

What stops there these days? 2 car Pacers?
-- 

David
Date:Tue, 20 Sep 2005 21:10:25 +0100   Author:  

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In article ,
   Big Dave  wrote:

> Reading West - at most a 3 car turbo will occupy the platform, but the
> platform length looks like it could hold a HST. Is is that length so in
> times of trouble HST's from the West Country can terminate there?


It's a relic of the days when long trains from the midlands to the south
coast used to stop there to avoid reversal at Reading General.

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Date:Tue, 20 Sep 2005 21:10:34 +0100   Author:  

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On 20 Sep 2005 12:01:59 -0700, "Big Dave"  wrote:


>What stations are there around that have long platforms but a normal
>service which takes up a small amount of the platform.


Manchester Piccadilly 13/14 - fit a full-size HST easily, but normally
inhabited by 2-car DMUs (OK, it's divided into two, and before that it
used to use permissive working to fit in even 3 or 4 DMUs at times).

Burscough Bridge station has a rather long platform for a single
dogbox, given its mainline heritage, but not all of it is in use.

Llandudno also has quite long platforms for the usual 2-car DMUs...

Neil

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Date:Tue, 20 Sep 2005 20:59:32 GMT   Author:  

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exjims@aol.com wrote:

> Big Dave wrote:
> 
>>What stations are there around that have long platforms but a normal
>>service which takes up a small amount of the platform.
>>
> 
> Chester no3 platform.
> Crewe no6 platform.
> Manchester Picc. 13/14 platforms.
> Shrewsbury 4/7 platforms.
> Bolton no3 platform.
> 


Stalybridge. Even a 6-car 158 only seems to take up about one third of 
the platform... so a 2-car 142 looks really lost !
Date:Tue, 20 Sep 2005 21:12:19 +0000 (UTC)   Author:  

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wrote in message 
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>
> Big Dave wrote:
>> What stations are there around that have long platforms but a normal
>> service which takes up a small amount of the platform.
>>
> Chester no3 platform.
> Crewe no6 platform.
> Manchester Picc. 13/14 platforms.
> Shrewsbury 4/7 platforms.
> Bolton no3 platform.



We came fifth but, we made the list!

KW,  Bolton
Date:Tue, 20 Sep 2005 21:44:11 GMT   Author:  

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Lots of longer-than-a-Turbo platforms in Thames Trains (sorry, FGW
Link) land. Many of the loco-hauled services which were replaced by the
165/166s were greater in length.

Pretty much all the stations between Paddington and didcot Parkway, I
reckon, could take 11-coach trains or thereabouts.
Date:20 Sep 2005 15:13:11 -0700   Author:  

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Big Dave wrote:


> Reading West - at most a 3 car turbo will occupy the platform, but the
> platform length looks like it could hold a HST. Is is that length so in
> times of trouble HST's from the West Country can terminate there?


No, it goes back to the days of steam when trains on the North-South
corridor would have avoided a reversal at General.
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Date:Tue, 20 Sep 2005 22:14:54 GMT   Author:  

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"John Tattersall"  wrote

> >
> > Newbury Racecourse - 3 platforms, 2 in normal service and both of them
> > long enough to hold a HST, i guess this was mainly for the times the
> > railways put on specials for racing. Do charters still use this station
> > for the races?
>
> HSTs *do* use Newbury Racecourse on some race days, as FGW either put
extra
> stops in services or, occasionally, run an additional using an HST.
>

In 1967 Newbury Racecourse station was only used on race days - when some of
the regular trains made an additional stop, and there were usually two
specials from Paddington, one of which was 'First Class and Members'
Special' - 13 or 14 coaches, all first class, and generally including two
Ocean Saloons.

Peter
Date:Tue, 20 Sep 2005 22:33:24 +0000 (UTC)   Author:  

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"matt"  wrote in message 
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> exjims@aol.com wrote:
>> Big Dave wrote:
>>
>>>What stations are there around that have long platforms but a normal
>>>service which takes up a small amount of the platform.
>>>
>>
>> Chester no3 platform.
>> Crewe no6 platform.
>> Manchester Picc. 13/14 platforms.
>> Shrewsbury 4/7 platforms.
>> Bolton no3 platform.
>>
>
> Stalybridge. Even a 6-car 158 only seems to take up about one third of the 
> platform... so a 2-car 142 looks really lost !


Certainly a long walk after a session in the "Buffet".

KW
Date:Tue, 20 Sep 2005 22:47:23 GMT   Author:  

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"Big Dave"  wrote in message
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> What stations are there around that have long platforms but a normal
> service which takes up a small amount of the platform.
>

IIRC Nairn has very long platforms but 2 or 3-car trains. Until a few years
ago there were separate signalboxes at each end of the loop, and the
signaller was equipped with a bicycle to ride along the platform from one to
the other.

Peter
Date:Tue, 20 Sep 2005 22:58:29 +0000 (UTC)   Author:  

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>What stations are there around that have long platforms but a normal
>service which takes up a small amount of the platform.



Slightly different from the others, City Thameslink has a normal
service with quite long trains, but the platform is about three miles
long with parts of it never used (I'm exaggerating again).
Date:21 Sep 2005 02:32:38 -0700   Author:  

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MIG wrote:

>>What stations are there around that have long platforms but a normal
>>service which takes up a small amount of the platform.
> 
> 
> 
> Slightly different from the others, City Thameslink has a normal
> service with quite long trains, but the platform is about three miles
> long with parts of it never used (I'm exaggerating again).Poulton_Le_

Poulton Le Fylde
Date:Wed, 21 Sep 2005 09:39:07 +0000 (UTC)   Author:  

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Big Dave wrote:

> What stations are there around that have long platforms but a normal
> service which takes up a small amount of the platform.
>
> e.g.
>
> Reading West - at most a 3 car turbo will occupy the platform, but the
> platform length looks like it could hold a HST. Is is that length so in
> times of trouble HST's from the West Country can terminate there?
>
> Newbury Racecourse - 3 platforms, 2 in normal service and both of them
> long enough to hold a HST, i guess this was mainly for the times the
> railways put on specials for racing. Do charters still use this station
> for the races?


Kensington Olympia is long enough for HSTs but most frequently gets 3
and 4 car services (the odd Voyager too).

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Date:21 Sep 2005 03:37:55 -0700   Author:  

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christine wrote:

> MIG wrote:
> 
>>> What stations are there around that have long platforms but a normal
>>> service which takes up a small amount of the platform.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Slightly different from the others, City Thameslink has a normal
>> service with quite long trains, but the platform is about three miles
>> long with parts of it never used (I'm exaggerating again).Poulton_Le_
> 
> Poulton Le Fylde


Come to think of it... Most on the BPN branch that are quite long. I 
guess it goes back to the good old days(tm) when we had direct services 
to London. Infact, I remember one occasion where my train from London 
came into Platform 3 or 4 as usual but was hanging off the end! (ISTC 
Platforms 3 and 4 are much longer than the rest, and are the only ones 
that have an extended canopy)
Date:Wed, 21 Sep 2005 12:16:25 +0100   Author:  

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On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 21:10:25, David Morgan
 wrote:

>
>Is Pontypridd, S. Wales, still famous for having a very long platform? I know it 
>was about 1/3 mile at one stage of its life.


It still has a long platform, but one side (town side) is trackless
and the other side has about a third without any rails, following
track realignment.


>What stops there these days? 2 car Pacers?


2/4 car Pacers and 150/2s.

Paul Harley

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Date:Wed, 21 Sep 2005 12:57:03 +0100   Author:  

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Neil Williams  wrote:

> Burscough Bridge station has a rather long platform for a single
> dogbox, given its mainline heritage, but not all of it is in use.
> 


In these parts, Cross Gates and Church Fenton also have long platforms
that are partly fenced off, and Guide Bridge is fairly epic too...

pete
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Date:Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:27:06 +0100   Author:  

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On 20 Sep 2005 12:01:59 -0700 someone who may be "Big Dave"
 wrote this:-


>What stations are there around that have long platforms but a normal
>service which takes up a small amount of the platform.


The longest platform is reputed to be Gloucester. This has been the
case for about two decades, since staff there decided to measure the
platform to confirm their story that there was a longer platform at
somewhere in the wilds (Colchester rings a bell). AFAIR the platform
at Gloucester is a few metres longer than that at Colchester. Of
course the platform at Colchester is not quite a platform, but two
platform faces. Unfortunately the platform at Gloucester is one
face, though divided into two by crossovers. Given the absence of
long distance trains to/from South Wales (by the sensible route via
Chepstow) and the general avoidance of the station by long distance
trains to/from Bristol, this huge platform is graced largely by two
coach toy trains, with the occasional four or five coach train
considered long. In the "good old days" trains of 10-12 coaches were
usual.


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Date:Wed, 21 Sep 2005 18:01:26 +0100   Author:  

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"David Hansen"  wrote in message
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>
> The longest platform is reputed to be Gloucester. This has been the
> case for about two decades, since staff there decided to measure the
> platform to confirm their story that there was a longer platform at
> somewhere in the wilds (Colchester rings a bell). AFAIR the platform
> at Gloucester is a few metres longer than that at Colchester. Of
> course the platform at Colchester is not quite a platform, but two
> platform faces. Unfortunately the platform at Gloucester is one
> face, though divided into two by crossovers.


As with Cambridge - although I believe that Gloucester is marginally longer.
Date:Wed, 21 Sep 2005 17:24:24 GMT   Author:  

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On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 17:24:24 GMT someone who may be "Jack Taylor"
 wrote this:-


>> The longest platform is reputed to be Gloucester. This has been the
>> case for about two decades, since staff there decided to measure the
>> platform to confirm their story that there was a longer platform at
>> somewhere in the wilds (Colchester rings a bell). AFAIR the platform
>> at Gloucester is a few metres longer than that at Colchester. Of
>> course the platform at Colchester is not quite a platform, but two
>> platform faces. Unfortunately the platform at Gloucester is one
>> face, though divided into two by crossovers.
>
>As with Cambridge - although I believe that Gloucester is marginally longer.


Colchseter, Cambridge. Surely the same place, somewhere unimportant
in the south:-)


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Date:Wed, 21 Sep 2005 18:45:13 +0100   Author:  

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In article , David Hansen
 writes

>On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 17:24:24 GMT someone who may be "Jack Taylor"
> wrote this:-
>
>>> The longest platform is reputed to be Gloucester. This has been the
>>> case for about two decades, since staff there decided to measure the
>>> platform to confirm their story that there was a longer platform at
>>> somewhere in the wilds (Colchester rings a bell). AFAIR the platform
>>> at Gloucester is a few metres longer than that at Colchester. Of
>>> course the platform at Colchester is not quite a platform, but two
>>> platform faces. Unfortunately the platform at Gloucester is one
>>> face, though divided into two by crossovers.
>>
>>As with Cambridge - although I believe that Gloucester is marginally longer.
>
>Colchester, *Cambridge*. Surely the same place, somewhere unimportant
>in the south:-)
>
>


*Ahem;).....
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Date:Wed, 21 Sep 2005 18:54:17 +0100   Author:  

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Larry Lard wrote:

> Big Dave wrote:
>> What stations are there around that have long platforms but a
>> normal service which takes up a small amount of the platform.
>>
>> e.g.
>>
>> Reading West - at most a 3 car turbo will occupy the platform, but
>> the platform length looks like it could hold a HST. Is is that
>> length so in times of trouble HST's from the West Country can
>> terminate there?
>>
>> Newbury Racecourse - 3 platforms, 2 in normal service and both of
>> them long enough to hold a HST, i guess this was mainly for the
>> times the railways put on specials for racing. Do charters still
>> use this station for the races?
>
> Kensington Olympia is long enough for HSTs but most frequently gets
> 3 and 4 car services (the odd Voyager too).


The northbound platform at Kensington Olympia is long enough for a
Eurostar, providing an emergency terminus for trains from the continent
if access to Waterloo is blocked for any reason.
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Date:Wed, 21 Sep 2005 20:11:14 GMT   Author:  

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exjims@aol.com wrote:

> Big Dave wrote:
> > What stations are there around that have long platforms but a normal
> > service which takes up a small amount of the platform.
> >
> Chester no3 platform.
> Crewe no6 platform.
> Manchester Picc. 13/14 platforms.
> Shrewsbury 4/7 platforms.
> Bolton no3 platform.


Just to add New Street except 4c
Coventry
Leamington Spa 2/3
Carnforth
Date:21 Sep 2005 14:01:54 -0700   Author:  

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How about City Thameslink?  The platforms must be around 16 cars long
(though maybe I'm wrong), but most services have only 4...


exj...@aol.com wrote:

> exjims@aol.com wrote:
> > Big Dave wrote:
> > > What stations are there around that have long platforms but a normal
> > > service which takes up a small amount of the platform.
> > >
> > Chester no3 platform.
> > Crewe no6 platform.
> > Manchester Picc. 13/14 platforms.
> > Shrewsbury 4/7 platforms.
> > Bolton no3 platform.
>
> Just to add New Street except 4c
> Coventry
> Leamington Spa 2/3
> Carnforth
Date:21 Sep 2005 14:14:05 -0700   Author:  

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> How about City Thameslink?  The platforms must be around 16 cars long
> (though maybe I'm wrong), but most services have only 4...
>

AIUI the platforms can take 12 car trains, ready for Thameslink 3000. Some
trains are 8 car, but I suspect these are the only platforms that are 50%
longer than has ever been needed.

A lot of platforms in SET suburban territory were lengthened from 10 to 12
car length ready for 12 car Networker formations, which have never operated.

Peter
Date:Wed, 21 Sep 2005 21:38:15 +0000 (UTC)   Author:  

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In message , at 
14:14:05 on Wed, 21 Sep 2005, phil.george999@gmail.com remarked:

>How about City Thameslink?  The platforms must be around 16 cars long
>(though maybe I'm wrong), but most services have only 4...


I think we need to set some rules for this thread, otherwise it's going 
to go on for ever. We've already had platforms which can accommodate 
twelve or more cars, that see trains with one. It's unlikely that a 
station whose smallest trains are four carriages (or even two) is going 
to beat that ratio.
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Date:Thu, 22 Sep 2005 08:01:46 +0100   Author:  

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On 20 Sep 2005 12:01:59 -0700, "Big Dave"  wrote:


>What stations are there around that have long platforms but a normal
>service which takes up a small amount of the platform.


What about the former Mail platform at Holyhead; what regular service
does that have?
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Date:Thu, 22 Sep 2005 08:47:00 GMT   Author:  

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David Muxworthy wrote:

> The converse problem arose a couple of weeks ago (13th) when power
> outages caused disruption on the ECML.  Several GNER and WAGN services
> were cancelled.  The 1730 GNER ex-KX stopped additionally at
> Biggleswade, St Neots and Huntingdon. At each station there was much
> to-ing and fro-ing between staff using the PA system while it was
> determined which coaches were on the platform.
>
> As a result, plus stopping at every GNER station en route, a 25 minute
> late departure from KX led to being 80 minutes late in Edinburgh.
> David Muxworthy


Huntingdon platforms are both long enough to accommodate HST, 91 and
Mk4 rakes and even a 373 with ALL carraiges at the platform, so I don't
know what they were worried about there. GNER have frequently been
forced to make unscheduled stops at Huntingdon when there is a
lightning strike or problems with the fast lines, or a problem at
Peterborough. Indeed, the very same platforms at Huntingdon used to
take regular scheduled inter-city stops not so many years ago.

On the same subject and in the same area - Peterborough which regularly
takes 373 regional sets, often has those single-carriage jobs for
Lincoln looking lost at the long platforms - that must be the biggest
difference in rolling stock length at the same station?!
Date:22 Sep 2005 06:38:18 -0700   Author:  

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On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 19:01:59 UTC, "Big Dave"  wrote:

: What stations are there around that have long platforms but a normal
: service which takes up a small amount of the platform.

There is one hugely long platform at Glasgow Central (number nine?) 
which generally gets DMUs and EMUs. And the sleeper. And Voyagers 
sometimes. OK, so maybe not the winner, but it is very long!

Ian

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Date:22 Sep 2005 14:46:31 GMT   Author:  

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In message , at 
06:38:18 on Thu, 22 Sep 2005, 50bmg  remarked:

>
>David Muxworthy wrote:
>> The converse problem arose a couple of weeks ago (13th) when power
>> outages caused disruption on the ECML.  Several GNER and WAGN services
>> were cancelled.  The 1730 GNER ex-KX stopped additionally at
>> Biggleswade, St Neots and Huntingdon. At each station there was much
>> to-ing and fro-ing between staff using the PA system while it was
>> determined which coaches were on the platform.
>>
>> As a result, plus stopping at every GNER station en route, a 25 minute
>> late departure from KX led to being 80 minutes late in Edinburgh.
>> David Muxworthy
>
>Huntingdon platforms are both long enough to accommodate HST, 91 and
>Mk4 rakes and even a 373 with ALL carraiges at the platform, so I don't
>know what they were worried about there. GNER have frequently been
>forced to make unscheduled stops at Huntingdon when there is a
>lightning strike or problems with the fast lines, or a problem at
>Peterborough. Indeed, the very same platforms at Huntingdon used to
>take regular scheduled inter-city stops not so many years ago.


Perhaps the staff don't have any inherited experience from when that 
used to happen?


>On the same subject and in the same area - Peterborough which regularly
>takes 373 regional sets,


But they don't fit - you get carriages hanging off both ends.


>often has those single-carriage jobs for
>Lincoln looking lost at the long platforms - that must be the biggest
>difference in rolling stock length at the same station?!


It might possibly be the biggest difference in rolling stock regularly 
*using* the platforms, but there are probably longer platforms that get 
single-carriage trains.
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Date:Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:00:43 +0100   Author:  

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Roland Perry wrote:


> But they don't fit - you get carriages hanging off both ends.
>


At some stations yes, but I think at PBO the whole set fits.... just.
It does on platform 2 anyway. The leading powercar is beyond the
platform end, but all the carriage doors are accomodated I think. This
isn't the case at Grantham though.
Date:22 Sep 2005 08:09:00 -0700   Author:  

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In message , at 
08:09:00 on Thu, 22 Sep 2005, 50bmg  remarked:

>
>Roland Perry wrote:
>
>> But they don't fit - you get carriages hanging off both ends.
>
>At some stations yes, but I think at PBO the whole set fits.... just.
>It does on platform 2 anyway.


I've taken that train from KX to Peterborough several times (never back, 
curiously), and I'm sure they have to announce that the rear couple of 
cars don't fit.

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Roland Perry
Date:Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:17:40 +0100   Author:  

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Roland Perry wrote:


> >
> >> But they don't fit - you get carriages hanging off both ends.
> >
> >At some stations yes, but I think at PBO the whole set fits.... just.
> >It does on platform 2 anyway.
>
> I've taken that train from KX to Peterborough several times (never back,
> curiously), and I'm sure they have to announce that the rear couple of
> cars don't fit.
>
> --
> Roland Perry


That maybe the case there. Platform 2 is usually for Southbound trains.
Anyway... we digress...
Date:22 Sep 2005 08:27:51 -0700   Author:  

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In message , at 
08:27:51 on Thu, 22 Sep 2005, 50bmg  remarked:

>> >> But they don't fit - you get carriages hanging off both ends.
>> >
>> >At some stations yes, but I think at PBO the whole set fits.... just.
>> >It does on platform 2 anyway.
>>
>> I've taken that train from KX to Peterborough several times (never back,
>> curiously), and I'm sure they have to announce that the rear couple of
>> cars don't fit.
>
>That maybe the case there. Platform 2 is usually for Southbound trains.


Ah, yes. They have platform 1 hiding somewhere else, don't they.
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Date:Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:42:37 +0100   Author:  

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"50bmg"  wrote

>
> On the same subject and in the same area - Peterborough which regularly
> takes 373 regional sets, often has those single-carriage jobs for
> Lincoln looking lost at the long platforms - that must be the biggest
> difference in rolling stock length at the same station?!
>

AIUI the full 16-coach Scotrail sleepers are longer than a GNE* (practically
as long as a 3-capitals 373). The sleepers call at Crewe, Preston, and
Carlisle, all of which are served by Class 153 dogboxes, aren't they?

Peter
Date:Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:46:38 +0000 (UTC)   Author:  

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On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 08:47:00 GMT, "Peter Lawrence"
 wrote:


>What about the former Mail platform at Holyhead; what regular service
>does that have?


Which one's that?  As I recall, services alternate between all 3
active platforms (only one in the train shed is in use and connected,
as I recall), but mostly the service could be operated using one.

Neil

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Date:Thu, 22 Sep 2005 17:17:51 GMT   Author:  

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Ian Johnston wrote:

> On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 19:01:59 UTC, "Big Dave"  wrote:
>
> : What stations are there around that have long platforms but a normal
> : service which takes up a small amount of the platform.
>
> There is one hugely long platform at Glasgow Central (number nine?)
> which generally gets DMUs and EMUs. And the sleeper. And Voyagers
> sometimes. OK, so maybe not the winner, but it is very long!
>
> Ian
>
> --

Yeah it's platform 11 - the longest in Scotland. It was earmarked for
EPS services many years ago.
Date:22 Sep 2005 10:30:40 -0700   Author:  

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On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 17:30:40 UTC, "50bmg"  
wrote:

: Yeah it's platform 11 - the longest in Scotland. It was earmarked for
: EPS services many years ago.

EPS?

Yours in ignorance,

Ian


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Date:22 Sep 2005 17:38:14 GMT   Author:  

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In article , David Muxworthy 
 writes

>The 1730 GNER ex-KX stopped additionally at Biggleswade, St Neots and 
>Huntingdon. At each station there was much to-ing and fro-ing between 
>staff using the PA system while it was determined which coaches were on 
>the platform.


The latter two can hold 3x365 (and do so every weekday) and Huntingdon 
used to regularly get HSTs, so I don't know what the fuss was about. 
I've even got off a 373/2 at Huntingdon.

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Date:Thu, 22 Sep 2005 15:50:53 +0100   Author:  

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On 22 Sep 2005 17:38:14 GMT, "Ian Johnston"
 wrote:


>EPS?


European Passenger Services, the operating consortium for Eurostar and
Nightstar, I believe.

Neil

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Date:Thu, 22 Sep 2005 17:50:44 GMT   Author:  

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Ian Johnston wrote:

> On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 19:01:59 UTC, "Big Dave"  wrote:
> 
> : What stations are there around that have long platforms but a normal
> : service which takes up a small amount of the platform.
> 
> There is one hugely long platform at Glasgow Central (number nine?) 
> which generally gets DMUs and EMUs. And the sleeper. And Voyagers 
> sometimes. OK, so maybe not the winner, but it is very long!
> 
> Ian
> 


Didn't Scarborough have a very long platform - the one that had what was 
claimed to be the longest seat in the country?
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Date:Thu, 22 Sep 2005 18:00:17 +0000 (UTC)   Author: