I have just used my new hot air paint remover and tried it on various 
painted surfaces. It's very good on gloss paint. Not bad on undercoats but 
It aint so good on polyurethane varnish. The pine discoloured before the 
varnish layer went. It did not come off as a layer but appeared to melt into 
little beads, like sweat. I wouldn't use this method for a valuable antique.

Rex.

Go with God my friend....go with God...
through the hazardous pilgrimage of life.
Good and ill emanate from God.
We are all being tested my friend, all of us.
So take heart, you are not alone.

"Norcot"  wrote in message 
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>I have just used my new hot air paint remover and tried it on various 
>painted surfaces. It's very good on gloss paint. Not bad on undercoats but 
>It aint so good on polyurethane varnish. The pine discoloured before the 
>varnish layer went. It did not come off as a layer but appeared to melt 
>into little beads, like sweat. I wouldn't use this method for a valuable 
>antique.
>


Thanks for that. Interesting.  I love the image of a table sitting there 
sweating while you hit it with hot air... But surely an antique wouldn't be 
varnished with polyurethane varnish in the first place?

So I guess a gadget like this would be good for restoring the original 
surface to those unfortunate pieces of furniture that were covered with 
paint in the 80s, when people seemed to paint everything in sight. Ah. They 
still do, don't they?

ally

"Norcot"  wrote in message
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> I have just used my new hot air paint remover and tried it on various
> painted surfaces. It's very good on gloss paint. Not bad on undercoats but
> It aint so good on polyurethane varnish. The pine discoloured before the
> varnish layer went. It did not come off as a layer but appeared to melt
into
> little beads, like sweat. I wouldn't use this method for a valuable
antique.
>
> Rex.


I told you so. I told you so.

Next time get The Big Strong Boys in. eheheh.

Edith.

"Norcot"  wrote in message
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> I have just used my new hot air paint remover and tried it on various
> painted surfaces. It's very good on gloss paint. Not bad on undercoats but
> It aint so good on polyurethane varnish. The pine discoloured before the
> varnish layer went. It did not come off as a layer but appeared to melt
into
> little beads, like sweat. I wouldn't use this method for a valuable
antique.
>
> Rex.
>


There's no substitute for elbow grease especially when restoring items of
value.

ex. apprentice

"a l l y"  wrote in message >

> Thanks for that. Interesting.  I love the image of a table sitting there 
> sweating while you hit it with hot air... But surely an antique wouldn't 
> be varnished with polyurethane varnish in the first place?


I agree. Antique shouldn't have polyurethane on them. The usual finish is a 
button polish to seal the wood - even a linseed oil dressing  - thenbeeswax 
polish. At the moment I have no waste antique finish to try the gun on, so I 
am not sure what it will do.

>
> So I guess a gadget like this would be good for restoring the original 
> surface to those unfortunate pieces of furniture that were covered with 
> paint in the 80s, when people seemed to paint everything in sight. Ah. 
> They still do, don't they?
>


 If it's painted with gloss paint the gun will do as good a job as nitromors 
or similar preparations. Maybe at sonme future date I will have a chance of 
trying it.
Incidentally, the gun I bought from Argos was a complete kit at only 14.99.
Rex.

"The Traveller"  wrote in message>

> I told you so. I told you so.
>
> Next time get The Big Strong Boys in. eheheh.
>
> Edith.
>

 Fine chance of that! They are too busy servicing your veranda.

Rex.

"Smolley"  wrote in message >>

>
> There's no substitute for elbow grease especially when restoring items of
> value.
>
> ex. apprentice
>

 Too right. I need the gun to remove paint from overpainted sash window 
frames.

Rex

Kindred spirits...at last!
After reading the stuff put out here ..............
I have an overwhelming need to share this with you all. 
Its about what I hate most about newsgroups . . . . control freaks
like netnannies and net cops and here is why.

They are  like when a little bit of shite gets stuck just inside yer
rectum not far enough down that you can squeeze it either in or out.
It just lies there, you feel it but can do nought about it. It just
sits there and irritates the hell out of you. The only effect is the
production of irritation nothing else. That is really what they are
like. They achieve nothing else. The trolls are still there!! 

Shite in yer rectum will eventually be resolved. Netnannies and
netcops are always there. The name and individual may change but there
is always some shit baiting and upsetting harmless trolls. The effect
is to give the troll a mission in life. Look at the uk.local hierarchy
at the moment, yorkshire, birmingham and essx in particular. Ruined
for the average poster. The majority of groups are empty, except for
troll droppings, spam and the odd genuine post!!! 

What amazes me is that some of the netnannies not only boast about
reporting contributors to their ISP but attempt to get other people
to do the same. This gives the troll an extra boast of "adrenaline".
Its all beyond me! 

Maybe I am too sensitive a guy.

Thanks for your interest.


You should really use Germaloids Cooling Spray before
you write anything. It might improve yer mood.

"Norcot"  wrote in message
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>
> "Smolley"  wrote in message >>
> >
> > There's no substitute for elbow grease especially when restoring items
of
> > value.
> >
> > ex. apprentice
> >
>  Too right. I need the gun to remove paint from overpainted sash window
> frames.
>
> Rex


sand sand sand sand sand sand sand sand sand sand sand saaaaaand, blow?

Edith.

"Norcot"  wrote in message
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>
> "The Traveller"  wrote in message>
> > I told you so. I told you so.
> >
> > Next time get The Big Strong Boys in. eheheh.
> >
> > Edith.
> >
>  Fine chance of that! They are too busy servicing your veranda.
>
> Rex.


Oh yes, my veranda. Did I tell you that when it rains I still get a puddle
in the middle , less deep and longer around. :(

Blast:Edith.

"Smolley"  wrote in message
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>
> "Norcot"  wrote in message
> news:Vn7Ze.1878$3q4.1110@newsfe5-gui.ntli.net...
> > I have just used my new hot air paint remover and tried it on various
> > painted surfaces. It's very good on gloss paint. Not bad on undercoats
but
> > It aint so good on polyurethane varnish. The pine discoloured before the
> > varnish layer went. It did not come off as a layer but appeared to melt
> into
> > little beads, like sweat. I wouldn't use this method for a valuable
> antique.
> >
> > Rex.
> >
>
> There's no substitute for elbow grease especially when restoring items of
> value.
>
> ex. apprentice


Smolley. Who are you? Where are you.

:0) Edith.

On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 07:38:29 GMT, "Norcot"  wrote:


>I have just used my new hot air paint remover and tried it on various 
>painted surfaces. It's very good on gloss paint. Not bad on undercoats but 
>It aint so good on polyurethane varnish. The pine discoloured before the 
>varnish layer went. It did not come off as a layer but appeared to melt into 
>little beads, like sweat. I wouldn't use this method for a valuable antique.
>
>Rex. 
>


If you have a valuable antique, it shouldn't have poly varnish on it: (or
the person who put it there should be shot).

The only thing for that stuff is "Nitromors" or equivalent (chemical
stripper).
The only trouble with that method, is that it is very irritating to the
skin if you get it on, you have to clean it off with water afterwards (not
good for any fine veneers etc.) and it will also bleach the wood, so you
have to restain it afterwards. (Then use French polish or beeswax etc.)
Not such a problem with pine.

J.

"The Traveller"  wrote in message


>
> Oh yes, my veranda. Did I tell you that when it rains I still get a puddle
> in the middle , less deep and longer around. :(
>

 What are you trying to do? Setting up a miniature Lake District of your 
own?


Rex.

"Norcot"  wrote in message
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>
> "The Traveller"  wrote in message
>
> >
> > Oh yes, my veranda. Did I tell you that when it rains I still get a
puddle
> > in the middle , less deep and longer around. :(
> >
>  What are you trying to do? Setting up a miniature Lake District of your
> own?
>
> Rex.


I actually considered filling it with soil and planting potatos once. Now,
with the pergo tiles in it, I still get my socks wet. I could have lillies
growing up thro the holes in the tiles... Cors it would be a bit of a mess
having to scrape up the soil every Autumn. The only way out now is to make a
groove from the middle of the puddle towards the thingie with holes in and a
pipe down to the lawn below, except that the thingie with the holes in with
the pipe down to the lawn, is too high compared to the fall in the veranda
floor.I tell yah. Az ga'en crazy.

Crazy Edith

btw I've been abroad 3 times this week.

"The Traveller"  wrote in message



> btw I've been abroad 3 times this week.
>
>Lucky old you. I've been to the supermarket once and the garden centre 
>twice. My how we live!


Rex.

"Norcot"  wrote in message
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>
> "The Traveller"  wrote in message
>
>
> > btw I've been abroad 3 times this week.
> >
> >Lucky old you. I've been to the supermarket once and the garden centre
> >twice. My how we live!
>
> Rex.


BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I didn't buy owt. Did you?

Edith

"The Traveller"  wrote in message 
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>
> btw I've been abroad 3 times this week.
>

What, to Sweden for more bathroom equipment for Orly?

I've been to Kendal. That felt a bit foreign.

ally

"a l l y"  wrote in message
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>
> "The Traveller"  wrote in message
> news:7PWdnVz-uLgH76veRVnzvA@telenor.com...
> >
> > btw I've been abroad 3 times this week.
> >
> What, to Sweden for more bathroom equipment for Orly?
>
> I've been to Kendal. That felt a bit foreign.
>
> ally


Yes. Sweden. It's more or less just around the corner. Orly bought some
equipment that he had to return. Kendal is a nice town.

Edith.

"The Traveller"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Norcot"  wrote in message
> news:45vZe.4072$NO2.1522@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
>>
>> "The Traveller"  wrote in message
>>
>>
>> > btw I've been abroad 3 times this week.
>> >
>> >Lucky old you. I've been to the supermarket once and the garden centre
>> >twice. My how we live!
>>
>> Rex.
>
> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> I didn't buy owt. Did you?
>
> Edith



Yes.  A sunday paper and a pint of milk at the supermarket. Some sand, some 
shady place, grass seed  and tsome op soil at the garden centre. We are 
laying more lawn to make the garden easier to manage. We had two large 
flower beds at the bottom of the garden but neighbours sycamore trees are 
now cutting out so much light they were not a success.  The lawn in now 
laid. We await the green shoots growing. Its now raining nicely , just in 
time to save me watering it.

Rex.

> 

"a l l y"  wrote in message


>
> I've been to Kendal. That felt a bit foreign.
>
> ally

 You been back to Kendal already? What's the attraction?

Rex.

"Norcot"  wrote in message 
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>
> "a l l y"  wrote in message
>
>>
>> I've been to Kendal. That felt a bit foreign.
>>
>> ally
> You been back to Kendal already? What's the attraction?
>

Hahah. No, once was enough. I was just responding to Edith's boast of being 
abroad 3 times this week. The only place of note I've been this week is 
Kendal. Once.

I might go to Penrith next Saturday. That's a bit foreign too. 
http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z2C642CDB There's an organic fair at Rheged and 
I can recycle my plastics while I'm there.

Gosh don't we lead exciting lives?

(A. No.)

ally

"The Traveller"  wrote in message 
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>
> Yes. Sweden. It's more or less just around the corner. Orly bought some
> equipment that he had to return. Kendal is a nice town.
>

I guess it's a bit like me nipping across to Scotland for the day.

....now there's an idea...

ally

JH wrote:


> If you have a valuable antique, it shouldn't have poly varnish on it: (or
> the person who put it there should be shot).
> 
> The only thing for that stuff is "Nitromors" or equivalent (chemical
> stripper).
> The only trouble with that method, is that it is very irritating to the
> skin if you get it on, you have to clean it off with water afterwards (not
> good for any fine veneers etc.) and it will also bleach the wood, so you
> have to restain it afterwards. (Then use French polish or beeswax etc.)
> Not such a problem with pine.
> 
> J.


I had that bleaching problem with a bannister that I stripped a couple 
of years ago.

Jp

"a l l y"  wrote in message
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>
> "The Traveller"  wrote in message
> news:KqCdnTSHoLVrJKveRVnzvA@telenor.com...
>
> >
> > Yes. Sweden. It's more or less just around the corner. Orly bought some
> > equipment that he had to return. Kendal is a nice town.
> >
> I guess it's a bit like me nipping across to Scotland for the day.
>
> ...now there's an idea...
>
> ally


You don't have to go far to hear your language, Ally. Sometimes my ears grow
tired of listening to Norwegian and I long just for someone to say hello to
me in Cumbrian dialect.

Edith.

"Jpinny"  wrote in message
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> The Traveller wrote:
> > "a l l y"  wrote in message
> > news:3pobugFbg41uU2@individual.net...
> >
> >>"The Traveller"  wrote in message
> >>news:KqCdnTSHoLVrJKveRVnzvA@telenor.com...
> >>
> >>
> >>>Yes. Sweden. It's more or less just around the corner. Orly bought some
> >>>equipment that he had to return. Kendal is a nice town.
> >>>
> >>
> >>I guess it's a bit like me nipping across to Scotland for the day.
> >>
> >>...now there's an idea...
> >>
> >>ally
> >
> >
> > You don't have to go far to hear your language, Ally. Sometimes my ears
grow
> > tired of listening to Norwegian and I long just for someone to say hello
to
> > me in Cumbrian dialect.
> >
> > Edith.
> >
> >
> What fettle, Edith me la'al Marra? Hoost'a gaan on?
>
> Or perhaps not dialect but a more contemporary and feminine accented:
>
> "Hiiiyyyeaaaaaahhh, Edith!!! Yorraite pet?"
>
> Jp


Oh ROOOOOOOOOOFL. I was expecting Hiya lass :))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Wurs tha ga'en un what's tha ja'en theer.

Edith.

The Traveller wrote:


>>What fettle, Edith me la'al Marra? Hoost'a gaan on?
>>
>>Or perhaps not dialect but a more contemporary and feminine accented:
>>
>>"Hiiiyyyeaaaaaahhh, Edith!!! Yorraite pet?"
>>
>>Jp
> 
> 
> Oh ROOOOOOOOOOFL. I was expecting Hiya lass :))))))))))))))))))))))))))
> 
> Wurs tha ga'en un what's tha ja'en theer.
> 
> Edith.
> 
> 

Yerright, lass. It's probably ower much time spent in Geordieland.

Ah's gaan tilt shop te buy 'apples and bananers and crisps and fizzy 
watter and then ah's gaan tilt' denteest to get a Movie Star Smile.

Jp

> I might go to Penrith next Saturday. That's a bit foreign
> too. http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z2C642CDB There's an
> organic fair at Rheged and I can recycle my plastics while
> I'm there. 
> 
> Gosh don't we lead exciting lives?
> 
> (A. No.)
> 
> ally 


Um, is it just me or is there not a lot of inefficient 
petrochemical oxidation and subsequent polluting involved in 
your quest for organics and plastic recycling? I presume you are 
not riding your bike to Penrith?

Johnny-wondering-about-the-cost-benefit-of-being-green-and-keen

"Jpinny"  wrote in message
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> The Traveller wrote:
>
> >>What fettle, Edith me la'al Marra? Hoost'a gaan on?
> >>
> >>Or perhaps not dialect but a more contemporary and feminine accented:
> >>
> >>"Hiiiyyyeaaaaaahhh, Edith!!! Yorraite pet?"
> >>
> >>Jp
> >
> >
> > Oh ROOOOOOOOOOFL. I was expecting Hiya lass :))))))))))))))))))))))))))
> >
> > Wurs tha ga'en un what's tha ja'en theer.
> >
> > Edith.
> >
> >
> Yerright, lass. It's probably ower much time spent in Geordieland.
>
> Ah's gaan tilt shop te buy 'apples and bananers and crisps and fizzy
> watter and then ah's gaan tilt' denteest to get a Movie Star Smile.
>
> Jp


Good luck Jop. You'll be singing .-

Movie Star. Movie Star, I wish I was a movie

star Edith

<Johnny@ominous.portent> wrote in message 
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>> I might go to Penrith next Saturday. That's a bit foreign
>> too. http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z2C642CDB There's an
>> organic fair at Rheged and I can recycle my plastics while
>> I'm there.
>>
>> Gosh don't we lead exciting lives?
>>
>> (A. No.)
>>
>> ally
>
> Um, is it just me or is there not a lot of inefficient
> petrochemical oxidation and subsequent polluting involved in
> your quest for organics and plastic recycling? I presume you are
> not riding your bike to Penrith?
>
> Johnny-wondering-about-the-cost-benefit-of-being-green-and-keen


Yes, well, I only go now and again. There's a super duper car boot sale 
there. I'd be going anyway from time to time, so I might as well combine my 
journey with other stuff. I also have a bit of a shopping list for some of 
the Penrith shops - stuff I can't get around here. So my day will be very 
worthwhile. It would certainly be a very bad idea to drive for  of an hour 
*just* for recycling.

ally

a l l y wrote:

> "The Traveller"  wrote in message 
> news:KqCdnTSHoLVrJKveRVnzvA@telenor.com...
> 
> 
>>Yes. Sweden. It's more or less just around the corner. Orly bought some
>>equipment that he had to return. Kendal is a nice town.
>>
> 
> I guess it's a bit like me nipping across to Scotland for the day.
> 
> ...now there's an idea...
> 
> ally 
> 
> 

I 'nipped' to Scotland the other day, to Dumfries. Place was full o 
foreigners. I heard more Geordies than Scottish accents, and there were 
leftpondians everywhere looking for that Rabbi Burns chappie and 
complaining.

Globetrottingly
Ron Whicker



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"Ron(UK)"  wrote in message 
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>>
>>
> I 'nipped' to Scotland the other day, to Dumfries. Place was full o 
> foreigners. I heard more Geordies than Scottish accents, and there were 
> leftpondians everywhere looking for that Rabbi Burns chappie and 
> complaining.
>

Yeah, all the Doonhamers (people from Dumfries) seem to have moved to 
Cumbria.

<sigh>

ally

"a l l y"  wrote in message
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>
> "Ron(UK)"  wrote in message
> news:dh928u$fla$2@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
> >>
> >>
> > I 'nipped' to Scotland the other day, to Dumfries. Place was full o
> > foreigners. I heard more Geordies than Scottish accents, and there were
> > leftpondians everywhere looking for that Rabbi Burns chappie and
> > complaining.
> >
> Yeah, all the Doonhamers (people from Dumfries) seem to have moved to
> Cumbria.
>
> <sigh>
>
> ally


I have to bike 10 minutes with my glass. It's disgusting.

Edith didit today.

"The Traveller"  wrote in message 
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>
> I have to bike 10 minutes with my glass. It's disgusting.

Really?

>
> Edith didit today.
>

Well well. A good day for it, I'd say.

ally-none-the-wiser

The Traveller wrote:


> 
> 
> I have to bike 10 minutes with my glass. It's disgusting.


> 
> Edith didit today.


What!  into a glass!

You have some very obscure habits!

Mindmogglingly
Ron O'sample



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"The Traveller"  wrote in message 
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>
> "a l l y"  wrote in message
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>>
>> "The Traveller"  wrote in message
>> news:odidnYxp6d2cjaXe4p2dnA@telenor.com...
>> >
>> > I have to bike 10 minutes with my glass. It's disgusting.
>>
>> Really?
>>
>> >
>> > Edith didit today.
>> >
>> Well well. A good day for it, I'd say.
>>
>> ally-none-the-wiser
>
> Glass details : The Coucil placed two igloos on the market place in the
> middle of town. One for coloured glas and one for clear glass and metal
> (lids and things). Great. The market place is a 10 minute walk from my
> place.
> Now to my dissappointment, they have moved them farther down the road 
> around
> a corner where people can't find them :0( unless they know about them 
> :0( so
> I bike down with empty jam jars and stuff once in a while.
>
> Edith stating facts-not complaining-was just joking about the distance 
> away
> of the igloos compaired to Penrith.
>

Aha! Now I understand. Recycling. You are very green Edith: well done.

We tried to get them to site some recycling bins in our village (not for 
plastics of course - just paper, tins and glass) and they nearly did, but 
nobody could agree on a site, so they gave up. There are at least 2 
recycling sites in Maryport, though, and we go there fairly regularly for 
basic shopping and stuff as it's only 3 miles away, so it's easy enough. 
It's just the plastics, tetrapaks and aluminium foil that they won't deal 
with locally. And they have actually installed a big skip for plastic 
bottles at Tesco in Workington, so it's just the other plastic stuff that 
has to go to Penrith. So we still have to go, but not as often. Anyway, I 
like Penrith. Nice shops: nice market: nice car boot sale.

ally

"Ron(UK)"  wrote in message 
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> The Traveller wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I have to bike 10 minutes with my glass. It's disgusting.
>
>
>>
>> Edith didit today.
>
> What!  into a glass!
>
> You have some very obscure habits!
>

You're not kidding. She's a scary woman. Did she tell you about that time 
when... ?

ally-not-telling

"a l l y"  wrote in message
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>
> "Ron(UK)"  wrote in message
> news:dh97pt$174$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
> > The Traveller wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> I have to bike 10 minutes with my glass. It's disgusting.
> >>
> >> Edith didit today.
> >
> > What!  into a glass!
> >
> > You have some very obscure habits!
> >
> You're not kidding. She's a scary woman. Did she tell you about that time
> when... ?
>
> ally-not-telling
>

Neither am I.

Edith playing safe.

pst! What's she on about?

a l l y wrote:

> "Ron(UK)"  wrote in message 
> news:dh97pt$174$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
> 
>>The Traveller wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>I have to bike 10 minutes with my glass. It's disgusting.
>>
>>
>>>Edith didit today.
>>
>>What!  into a glass!
>>
>>You have some very obscure habits!
>>
> 
> You're not kidding. She's a scary woman. Did she tell you about that time 
> when... ?
> 
> ally-not-telling 
> 
> 

I think you did.. I`ll have it archived somewhere.

Ron-not-knowing


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