Just got back from the first night of Munich Oktoberfest, I have to say that 
it was beyond anything I could have imagined, a few thousand Germans packed 
tightly into a beerhall with a big band playing ACDC and Brian Adams numbers 
for the singalong. - Weird or what.
Absolutely great food (Half a chicken or a pork knuckle - Schweinhackse) - 
no room for dainty dishes here!! or vegetarianism either.
We ate at the Weisse Brau house [please excuse lousy spellings] in Munich 
center, like most of these places if pork is not your thing then you were a 
bit stuffed! Ratskeller was also very good - except for the huge police 
presence for a prre election rally!
All in all, Munich would be a great city to visit at any time, the 
Oktoberfest, well, I'll put it down as one of the things that everybody 
should do once in their lives before they die!

freeminer@tiscali.co.uk a crit :


>Absolutely great food (Half a chicken or a pork knuckle - Schweinhackse) - 
>no room for dainty dishes here!! or vegetarianism either.
>  
>

Are the Schweinshaxe the full 1.3-1.4 kilos or the more manageable 
650-700 grams each ?


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On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 16:17:58 +0100,  wrote:


>All in all, Munich would be a great city to visit at any time, the 


It's a bit dull at 8 on a Sunday morning when a late sleeper train
means you've missed the infrequent onward connection for Zagreb. We
found beer on sale for breakfast, though :-)


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"The Submarine Captain"  wrote in message 
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> freeminer@tiscali.co.uk a crit :
> Are the Schweinshaxe the full 1.3-1.4 kilos or the more manageable 650-700 
> grams each ?


I wimped out and had the 700(ish) gram version [around 28 Oz in English]. 
The half chicken in the beer hall wasn't bad either.

freeminer@tiscali.co.uk a crit :


>"The Submarine Captain"  wrote in message 
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>
>>freeminer@tiscali.co.uk a crit :
>>Are the Schweinshaxe the full 1.3-1.4 kilos or the more manageable 650-700 
>>grams each ?
>>    
>>
>
>I wimped out and had the 700(ish) gram version [around 28 Oz in English]. 
>  
>

Note : for those who haven't met those bavarian beauties, that's raw 
weight, including the bone. ;o)

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Laurent Mousson, Berne, Switzerland

On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 16:17:58 +0100,  wrote:



>All in all, Munich would be a great city to visit at any time, the 
>Oktoberfest, well, I'll put it down as one of the things that everybody 
>should do once in their lives before they die! 
>


That's the advice I would have given you before you left, if you'd
asked :-)

I love drinking in Munich, but avoid it when the Oktoberfest is on.
High prices, short measures, no service whilst you're standing, and a
lot of unfriendly Bavarians. Don't forget that all the visitors are
invading "their" festival. They don't!



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In message , Mike Roebuck 
 writes

>On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 16:17:58 +0100,  wrote:
>
>
>>All in all, Munich would be a great city to visit at any time, the
>>Oktoberfest, well, I'll put it down as one of the things that everybody
>>should do once in their lives before they die!
>>
>
>That's the advice I would have given you before you left, if you'd
>asked :-)
>
>I love drinking in Munich, but avoid it when the Oktoberfest is on.
>High prices, short measures, no service whilst you're standing, and a
>lot of unfriendly Bavarians. Don't forget that all the visitors are
>invading "their" festival. They don't!
>
>
>

And in your view, does this unhappy situation apply to the Cannstatter 
Volksfest? I'm not having a dig here, I was thinking of going next week 
(just an excuse to do the 'special service only' U11 route, you 
understand). We certainly didn't have a problem getting a reasonably 
priced room in Stuttgart. Mind you, I haven't seen it yet...

Dave
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On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 09:16:29 +0100, Dave Spencer
 wrote:


>In message , Mike Roebuck 
> writes
>>On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 16:17:58 +0100,  wrote:
>>
>>
>>>All in all, Munich would be a great city to visit at any time, the
>>>Oktoberfest, well, I'll put it down as one of the things that everybody
>>>should do once in their lives before they die!
>>>
>>
>>That's the advice I would have given you before you left, if you'd
>>asked :-)
>>
>>I love drinking in Munich, but avoid it when the Oktoberfest is on.
>>High prices, short measures, no service whilst you're standing, and a
>>lot of unfriendly Bavarians. Don't forget that all the visitors are
>>invading "their" festival. They don't!
>>
>>
>>
>And in your view, does this unhappy situation apply to the Cannstatter 
>Volksfest? I'm not having a dig here, I was thinking of going next week 
>(just an excuse to do the 'special service only' U11 route, you 
>understand). We certainly didn't have a problem getting a reasonably 
>priced room in Stuttgart. Mind you, I haven't seen it yet...


I don't think it does, although I've never been to it. I'll ask a pal
of mine whose band may be playing there. (The beer's better in
Bavaria, though.......)


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Dave Spencer a crit :


> And in your view, does this unhappy situation apply to the Cannstatter 
> Volksfest? I'm not having a dig here, I was thinking of going next 
> week (just an excuse to do the 'special service only' U11 route, you 
> understand). We certainly didn't have a problem getting a reasonably 
> priced room in Stuttgart. Mind you, I haven't seen it yet...


I've stayed a few times in cheap hotels and "Pensionen" in Stuttgart : 
well, decently clean they usually are. Cheerful and sunny they aren't 
necessarily...

Once you've abused beer, sausage and pig knuckles for a day or two, I'd 
suggest you stop at the Mineralbad Leuze (local public spa) to recover 
and detox. (qv. http://www.stgt.com/stuttgart/leuzee.htm)
Leuze is less desperately posh than the Mineralbad Bad Cannstatt, and a 
lot more modern and comfortable than the spartan Mineralbad Berg. And 
the admisison prices are quite moderate for such an establishment.

Cheers !


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Laurent Mousson, Berne, Switzerland

In message , The Submarine Captain 
 writes

>Dave Spencer a crit :
>
>> And in your view, does this unhappy situation apply to the 
>>Cannstatter Volksfest? I'm not having a dig here, I was thinking of 
>>going next  week (just an excuse to do the 'special service only' U11 
>>route, you understand). We certainly didn't have a problem getting a 
>>reasonably priced room in Stuttgart. Mind you, I haven't seen it yet...
>
>I've stayed a few times in cheap hotels and "Pensionen" in Stuttgart : 
>well, decently clean they usually are. Cheerful and sunny they aren't 
>necessarily...
>
>Once you've abused beer, sausage and pig knuckles for a day or two, I'd 
>suggest you stop at the Mineralbad Leuze (local public spa) to recover 
>and detox. (qv. http://www.stgt.com/stuttgart/leuzee.htm)
>Leuze is less desperately posh than the Mineralbad Bad Cannstatt, and a 
>lot more modern and comfortable than the spartan Mineralbad Berg. And 
>the admisison prices are quite moderate for such an establishment.
>
>Cheers !
>
>

Thanks, Laurent. We shall only be in Stuttgart for one evening so 
hopefully detox won't be necessary!

Dave
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Dave,

Make sure to seek out Calwer Eck-Brau, a Stuttgart local beer
(http://www.calwereck.de/). It's an unfiltered pils (kellerbier) that I
found to be wonderful.  I had it at a business lunch and was limited to
2 half liters due to the company, but I very much wanted to stay and
have many more.

Rick
Cleveland
USA

On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 17:46:57 -0400, "Simon Cooper"
 wrote:


>
>"Mike Roebuck"  wrote in message
>news:rob3j1580dtg0k2iv3f3ga3n4lcbvf1cmv@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 16:17:58 +0100,  wrote:
>>
>>
>> >All in all, Munich would be a great city to visit at any time, the
>> >Oktoberfest, well, I'll put it down as one of the things that everybody
>> >should do once in their lives before they die!
>> >
>>
>> That's the advice I would have given you before you left, if you'd
>> asked :-)
>>
>> I love drinking in Munich, but avoid it when the Oktoberfest is on.
>> High prices, short measures, no service whilst you're standing, and a
>> lot of unfriendly Bavarians. Don't forget that all the visitors are
>> invading "their" festival. They don't!
>>
>
>I've just returned from it too, and found the atmosphere absolutely
>excellent - perhaps earlier in the festival they aren't yet fed up with all
>the visitors, or maybe you were there at a weekend?


No. It was midweek, I was at a table in the Augustiner marquee with
some South Africans, and the adjoining table was all Bavarian. When we
got to standing on the seats and linking arms, the lady on my right
said something to me in German, I responded in German, and then she
said "Sie sind ja auch kein Bayer, Sie" ("You're no Bavarian,
either"), let go of my arm and turned away to her friends.

Don't get me wrong - I have some lovely Bavarian friends, but they're
not from Munich. 



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