Now that the weather is turning cooler and the CH is on again, SWMBO and 
me have started the usual game where she keeps turning it up and I keep 
turning it down again... clearly we have a marital problem in that she 
can be wrapped up in a jumper but with goosepimples, whereas I'm sitting 
  next to her wearing a T-shirt, but mopping sweat from my brow.

This year SWMBO has resorted to claiming I have some medical condition 
which has screwed up my thermoregulation, and the latest tactic she has 
sunk to is to blame the insulating layer of subcutaneous fat which has 
admittedly been increasing in thickness around my torso over the years, 
and that I need to lose some weight... Pah!

I know there's no easy solution to the problem of our temperature 
incompatibility, but I'm curious to know what others consider to be a 
'normal' temperature around the house - ie is it 'my' problem or 'hers'!

David

Lobster wrote:

> Now that the weather is turning cooler and the CH is on again, SWMBO
> and me have started the usual game where she keeps turning it up and
> I keep turning it down again... clearly we have a marital problem in
> that she can be wrapped up in a jumper but with goosepimples, whereas
>   I'm sitting next to her wearing a T-shirt, but mopping sweat from
> my brow.
>
> This year SWMBO has resorted to claiming I have some medical condition
> which has screwed up my thermoregulation, and the latest tactic she
> has sunk to is to blame the insulating layer of subcutaneous fat
> which has admittedly been increasing in thickness around my torso
> over the years, and that I need to lose some weight... Pah!
>
> I know there's no easy solution to the problem of our temperature
> incompatibility, but I'm curious to know what others consider to be a
> 'normal' temperature around the house - ie is it 'my' problem or
> 'hers'!


It's not your problem or her's IME. It's the way it is. SWMBO fafs around
with the thermostat all the time, her favourite trick being to turn it up
full :-#  She does the same in the car - has no concept of how thermostats
work...

Dave

Lobster wrote:

> This year SWMBO has resorted to claiming I have some medical condition 
> which has screwed up my thermoregulation,


This is bloody irritating. I used to get that, also "Oh it's far to
hot to do anything" in the summer. It seemed that 26-27 deg. C was
the only acceptable range.



> and the latest tactic she has 
> sunk to is to blame the insulating layer of subcutaneous fat which has 
> admittedly been increasing in thickness around my torso over the years, 
> and that I need to lose some weight... Pah!
> 
> I know there's no easy solution to the problem of our temperature 
> incompatibility, but I'm curious to know what others consider to be a 
> 'normal' temperature around the house - ie is it 'my' problem or 'hers'!


Bedroom, 18 deg. C; downstairs, 20 should be OK. It may help to
show her the recommended temperature for bedrooms occupied by
babies, or to put thermometers in all rooms.

Lobster wrote:

> Now that the weather is turning cooler and the CH is on again, SWMBO
> and me have started the usual game where she keeps turning it up and
> I keep turning it down again... clearly we have a marital problem in
> that she can be wrapped up in a jumper but with goosepimples, whereas
>   I'm sitting next to her wearing a T-shirt, but mopping sweat from
> my brow.
>
> This year SWMBO has resorted to claiming I have some medical condition
> which has screwed up my thermoregulation, and the latest tactic she
> has sunk to is to blame the insulating layer of subcutaneous fat
> which has admittedly been increasing in thickness around my torso
> over the years, and that I need to lose some weight... Pah!
>
> I know there's no easy solution to the problem of our temperature
> incompatibility, but I'm curious to know what others consider to be a
> 'normal' temperature around the house - ie is it 'my' problem or
> 'hers'!
>
> David


Is she skinny? skinny people feel the cold more so than people of average
weight.

It has been a bit chilly last to days but appearing night time though.

On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 09:11:40 GMT, Lobster
 wrote:


>Now that the weather is turning cooler and the CH is on again, SWMBO and 
>me have started the usual game where she keeps turning it up and I keep 
>turning it down again... clearly we have a marital problem in that she 
>can be wrapped up in a jumper but with goosepimples, whereas I'm sitting 
>  next to her wearing a T-shirt, but mopping sweat from my brow.
>
>This year SWMBO has resorted to claiming I have some medical condition 
>which has screwed up my thermoregulation, and the latest tactic she has 
>sunk to is to blame the insulating layer of subcutaneous fat which has 
>admittedly been increasing in thickness around my torso over the years, 
>and that I need to lose some weight... Pah!
>
>I know there's no easy solution to the problem of our temperature 
>incompatibility, but I'm curious to know what others consider to be a 
>'normal' temperature around the house - ie is it 'my' problem or 'hers'!


I get the same!

18-21 deg C is about normal.

sponix

"Lobster"  wrote in message
news:ghvXe.7674$ws4.7194@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...


> This year SWMBO has resorted to claiming I have some medical condition
> which has screwed up my thermoregulation, and the latest tactic she has
> sunk to is to blame the insulating layer of subcutaneous fat which has
> admittedly been increasing in thickness around my torso over the years,
> and that I need to lose some weight... Pah!
>
> I know there's no easy solution to the problem of our temperature
> incompatibility, but I'm curious to know what others consider to be a
> 'normal' temperature around the house - ie is it 'my' problem or 'hers'!
>
> David


I'd say this is impossible to resolve in the home.
When I was working we moved from individual offices (with separate radiators
and openable windows) into a new open-plan area, and had a new
air-conditioning system installed.  Naively I expected that 20-21degC would
be acceptable as it had been in the small offices, but I'd forgotten that at
the time, most women were doing sedentary jobs such as clerical, whilst the
men in this department were much more (physically) active.  I'd also not
realised how the slight but persistent a/c draughts affected one's
perception of temperature.  We ended up with the thermostat set so that the
air temperature was 23degC.  The women were happy sitting in their thin
blouses etc., and the men learnt to remove their jackets.  On entering the
department, male visitors frequently remarked how hot it was, but seemed to
accept the conditions after a few minutes.
If we tried lowering the temperature slightly, complaints flooded in from
the women.
-- 
M Stewart
Milton Keynes, UK
http://www.megalith.freeserve.co.uk/oddimage.htm

In article <ghvXe.7674$ws4.7194@newsfe5-win.ntli.net>,
   Lobster  wrote:

> I know there's no easy solution to the problem of our temperature 
> incompatibility, but I'm curious to know what others consider to be a 
> 'normal' temperature around the house - ie is it 'my' problem or 'hers'!


It seems to be a female thing. I work with many girls of all ages on
location filming where they'll wrap up well against the weather - and not
be too concerned with how they look. But are far more likely to complain
than the blokes. Of course they tend to be in more sedate jobs, I suppose.

-- 
*Could it be that "I do " is the longest sentence? *

    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Dave"  wrote in message
news:dgm005$7l0$1@iss-nntp.leeds.ac.uk...


> It's not your problem or her's IME. It's the way it is. SWMBO fafs around
> with the thermostat all the time, her favourite trick being to turn it up
> full :-#  She does the same in the car - has no concept of how thermostats
> work...


I call our thermostat the on / off switch because if the radiators are cold
I get called all the names and she goes and turns them back on. Its the same
in the car with the climate control
We'll see how she gets on with the CM67's that are going to be installed (
tamperproof in a too technical way ) but I suspect we'll have some rows
about TRV's

Regards Jeff

In article <ghvXe.7674$ws4.7194@newsfe5-win.ntli.net>, 
davidlobsterpot601@hotmail.com says...

> Now that the weather is turning cooler and the CH is on again, SWMBO and 
> me have started the usual game where she keeps turning it up and I keep 
> turning it down again... clearly we have a marital problem in that she 
> can be wrapped up in a jumper but with goosepimples, whereas I'm sitting 
>   next to her wearing a T-shirt, but mopping sweat from my brow.
> 
> This year SWMBO has resorted to claiming I have some medical condition 
> which has screwed up my thermoregulation, and the latest tactic she has 
> sunk to is to blame the insulating layer of subcutaneous fat which has 
> admittedly been increasing in thickness around my torso over the years, 
> and that I need to lose some weight... Pah!


Mines the same - and I've got less insulation than she has  :-)  I 
reckon women are designed to keep warm by constantly cooking, cleaning, 
washing while men are designed to stay cool by lounging in front of the 
telly in their vest and pants with a cold beer.

> 
> I know there's no easy solution to the problem of our temperature 
> incompatibility, but I'm curious to know what others consider to be a 
> 'normal' temperature around the house - ie is it 'my' problem or 'hers'!
> 

Of course it's your fault  ;^>

On 19 Sep,  
     Chris Bacon  wrote:



> Bedroom, 18 deg. C; downstairs, 20 should be OK. It may help to
> show her the recommended temperature for bedrooms occupied by
> babies, or to put thermometers in all rooms.


I'd go for 16-17 for bedrooms etc, and 19 for lounge. SWMBO disagrees though,
Women like higher temperatures, and won't acclimatise.

-- 
  B Thumbs
  Change lycos to yahoo to reply

"Dave"  wrote in message 
news:dgm005$7l0$1@iss-nntp.leeds.ac.uk...

> Lobster wrote:
>
> It's not your problem or her's IME. It's the way it is. SWMBO fafs around
> with the thermostat all the time, her favourite trick being to turn it up
> full :-#  She does the same in the car - has no concept of how thermostats
> work...


You haven't taught her.

~Mary

>
> Dave
>
> 

"s--p--o--n--i--x"  wrote in message 
news:432e8688.6812687@news.individual.net...

> On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 09:11:40 GMT, Lobster
>  wrote:
>
>>Now that the weather is turning cooler and the CH is on again, SWMBO and
>>me have started the usual game where she keeps turning it up and I keep
>>turning it down again... clearly we have a marital problem in that she
>>can be wrapped up in a jumper but with goosepimples, whereas I'm sitting
>>  next to her wearing a T-shirt, but mopping sweat from my brow.
>>
>>This year SWMBO has resorted to claiming I have some medical condition
>>which has screwed up my thermoregulation, and the latest tactic she has
>>sunk to is to blame the insulating layer of subcutaneous fat which has
>>admittedly been increasing in thickness around my torso over the years,
>>and that I need to lose some weight... Pah!
>>
>>I know there's no easy solution to the problem of our temperature
>>incompatibility, but I'm curious to know what others consider to be a
>>'normal' temperature around the house - ie is it 'my' problem or 'hers'!
>
> I get the same!
>
> 18-21 deg C is about normal.


That's VERY hot!

But I suppose it depends what you're doing, we rarely sit down except at the 
table to eat so we create our own heat. Our thermostate is never turned to 
more than 15 - but of course they'e not spot on.

The CH certainly hasn't been neessary yet. There's an autumnal nip in the 
air but I'm still in shorts and Tshirt and most days we're eating lunch 
outdoors. This in Yorkshire.

I'm not comfortable with the CH on during the night, if it's realy cold I 
use a hwb.

Mary


> sponix 

wrote in message news:4DACD00FB3%brian13434@lycos.co.uk...

> On 19 Sep,
>     Chris Bacon  wrote:
>
>
>> Bedroom, 18 deg. C; downstairs, 20 should be OK. It may help to
>> show her the recommended temperature for bedrooms occupied by
>> babies, or to put thermometers in all rooms.
>
> I'd go for 16-17 for bedrooms etc, and 19 for lounge. SWMBO disagrees 
> though,
> Women like higher temperatures, and won't acclimatise.


Don't generalise. It devalues your otherwise reasonable argument.

Mary

>
> -- 
>  B Thumbs
>  Change lycos to yahoo to reply 

"Jeff"  wrote:


>We'll see how she gets on with the CM67's that are going to be installed (
>tamperproof in a too technical way ) but I suspect we'll have some rows
>about TRV's


The good thing about the CM67 is you can also invisibly offset the
thermostat.  You can tell her it's 23 deg when it's only 20 - win the
argument and also save money :-)


--

On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 09:36:15 GMT, "ben"  wrote:



>
>Is she skinny? skinny people feel the cold more so than people of average
>weight.
>
>It has been a bit chilly last to days but appearing night time though.
>


And people with red hair we learnt only this morning. 

Andy

On 19 Sep,  
     Matt  wrote:



> The good thing about the CM67 is you can also invisibly offset the
> thermostat.  You can tell her it's 23 deg when it's only 20 - win the
> argument and also save money :-)


That wouldn't work here. She'd check with her own thermometer. Probably at
foot level. Perhaps a job for a small area of UFH?


-- 
  B Thumbs
  Change lycos to yahoo to reply

Lobster wrote:

> I know there's no easy solution to the problem of our temperature 
> incompatibility, but I'm curious to know what others consider to be a 
> 'normal' temperature around the house - ie is it 'my' problem or 'hers'!


Well our (office) aircon is set to 21C all year round, and it's 
comfortable :)

alex

-- 
Alex Meaden
Technical Support Officer
Computing Service
University of Kent

Lobster wrote:

> This year SWMBO has resorted to claiming I have some medical condition 
> which has screwed up my thermoregulation, and the latest tactic she has 
> sunk to is to blame the insulating layer of subcutaneous fat which has 
> admittedly been increasing in thickness around my torso over the years, 
> and that I need to lose some weight... Pah!


Or alternatively she needs to add some weight.


> I know there's no easy solution to the problem of our temperature 
> incompatibility, but I'm curious to know what others consider to be a 
> 'normal' temperature around the house - 


About 15C here but (a) I'm hardy (b) I'm stingy

 > ie is it 'my' problem or 'hers'!

Tell her to spend more time cooking and mangling in the kitchen. That 
will warm her up.

Owain

On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 12:59:53 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
 wrote:


>
>"s--p--o--n--i--x"  wrote in message 

>> 18-21 deg C is about normal.
>
>That's VERY hot!


Are you a polar bear, perchance?

sponix

In article <432ea856$0$32464$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net>,
   Mary Fisher  wrote:

> > Women like higher temperatures, and won't acclimatise.

> Don't generalise. It devalues your otherwise reasonable argument.


IMHO the first part of the statement is true. And I'm not sure if you can
acclimatise to uncomfortable temperatures - although you could wear more
or more suitable clothing.

-- 
*Hang in there, retirement is only thirty years away! *

    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article , 
AndyPandy@nosuch.co.uk says...

> On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 09:36:15 GMT, "ben"  wrote:
> 
> 
> >
> >Is she skinny? skinny people feel the cold more so than people of average
> >weight.
> >
> And people with red hair we learnt only this morning. 
> 

ITYF that research has been available for several months, and relates to 
perception of *pain* caused by cold rather than "feeling chilly".  So 
maybe rather than shattering the notion that Celts are hardy it's 
actually a genetic mutation to reduce the risk of frostbite.

On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 14:14:35 +0100, Rob Morley 
wrote:


>In article , 
>AndyPandy@nosuch.co.uk says...
>> On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 09:36:15 GMT, "ben"  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> >
>> >Is she skinny? skinny people feel the cold more so than people of average
>> >weight.
>> >
>> And people with red hair we learnt only this morning. 
>> 
>ITYF that research has been available for several months, and relates to 
>perception of *pain* caused by cold rather than "feeling chilly".  So 
>maybe rather than shattering the notion that Celts are hardy it's 
>actually a genetic mutation to reduce the risk of frostbite.


Thanks for the clarification. I'll have to point out to my wife that
she in no danger of frostbite, sat on the sofa in a centrally heated
room, watching TV. Mind you, it did kind of support her complaint that
dentists never give her enough anaesthetic first time.

Andy

On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 13:23:09 +0100,  wrote:


>On 19 Sep,  
>     Matt  wrote:
>
>
>> The good thing about the CM67 is you can also invisibly offset the
>> thermostat.  You can tell her it's 23 deg when it's only 20 - win the
>> argument and also save money :-)
>
>That wouldn't work here. She'd check with her own thermometer. Probably at
>foot level. Perhaps a job for a small area of UFH?


Slide the tube up a bit.   :-)

Andy

"s--p--o--n--i--x"  wrote in message 
news:432eb31d.18226218@news.individual.net...

> On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 12:59:53 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
>  wrote:
>
>>
>>"s--p--o--n--i--x"  wrote in message
>
>>> 18-21 deg C is about normal.
>>
>>That's VERY hot!
>
> Are you a polar bear, perchance?


No, but I'm uncomfortable when it's over 15C.

Things have been much better in our house since we (that is Spouse, at my 
urging) fitted thermostatic valves to the radiators.

Mary

>
> sponix 

"Dave Plowman (News)"  wrote in message 
news:4dacd704b9dave@davenoise.co.uk...

> In article <432ea856$0$32464$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net>,
>   Mary Fisher  wrote:
>> > Women like higher temperatures, and won't acclimatise.
>
>> Don't generalise. It devalues your otherwise reasonable argument.
>
> IMHO the first part of the statement is true.


You know how ALL women are?

Of course you don't. In your experience it might be true but your opinion, 
humble or not,  is not.

Mary

Mary Fisher wrote:

> "Dave"  wrote in message
> news:dgm005$7l0$1@iss-nntp.leeds.ac.uk...
>> Lobster wrote:
>>
>> It's not your problem or her's IME. It's the way it is. SWMBO fafs
>> around with the thermostat all the time, her favourite trick being
>> to turn it up full :-#  She does the same in the car - has no
>> concept of how thermostats work...
>
> You haven't taught her.


With respect, Mary, it's not a question of teaching, believe me I've tried.
It's simply the case that SWMBO likes it warmer than I do, and reading some
of the other responses to this thread it seems she's not alone! Maybe women
are like cats and men like dogs - at least IME - our cat always basks in the
sun whilst the dog finds the shady spot...

Dave

On 19 Sep 2005, Lobster wrote

-snip-


> I know there's no easy solution to the problem of our temperature 
> incompatibility, but I'm curious to know what others consider to
> be a 'normal' temperature around the house - ie is it 'my' problem
> or 'hers'! 


My wife and I seem to agree on 20-21 as our standard.

-- 
Cheers,
Harvey

In message <dgmi80$c0l$1@iss-nntp.leeds.ac.uk>, Dave  writes

>Mary Fisher wrote:
>> "Dave"  wrote in message
>> news:dgm005$7l0$1@iss-nntp.leeds.ac.uk...
>>> Lobster wrote:
>>>
>>> It's not your problem or her's IME. It's the way it is. SWMBO fafs
>>> around with the thermostat all the time, her favourite trick being
>>> to turn it up full :-#  She does the same in the car - has no
>>> concept of how thermostats work...
>>
>> You haven't taught her.
>
>With respect, Mary, it's not a question of teaching, believe me I've tried.
>It's simply the case that SWMBO likes it warmer than I do, and reading some
>of the other responses to this thread it seems she's not alone! Maybe women
>are like cats and men like dogs - at least IME - our cat always basks in the
>sun whilst the dog finds the shady spot...
>
>Dave
>
>


I have my thermostat set to between 21C and 23C - 20 is a little chilly, 
and 24 is too hot.

-- 
Richard Faulkner

In article <432ecbdc$0$28626$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net>,
   Mary Fisher  wrote:

> >> > Women like higher temperatures, and won't acclimatise.
> >
> >> Don't generalise. It devalues your otherwise reasonable argument.
> >
> > IMHO the first part of the statement is true.

> You know how ALL women are?

> Of course you don't. In your experience it might be true but your
> opinion, humble or not,  is not.


A generalization means just that. There will always be exceptions by
nature. And you're an exceptional woman. ;-)

-- 
*If you can read this, thank a teecher

    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Mary Fisher wrote:

>>>
>>> You haven't taught her.
>>
>> With respect, Mary, it's not a question of teaching, believe me I've
>> tried.
>> It's simply the case that SWMBO likes it warmer than I do,
>
> Ah - but you said she had no concept of how thermostats work ...


Pedant :-) She doesn't /appear/ to- despite my explaining to her how they
work - actually that's probably not quite true, she's not daft, just likes
to be in control - and winding the thermostat up full means she's in control
of the boiler!

We had the 'technical' discussion about it when we were in the car (she's
just wound the a/c up full and I objected). It seems that, for her at least,
the hysterisis inherent in the system leads to too much variation in
temperature. As far as I'm concerned it works fine and I very rarely feel
any variation - if I start to feel too warm in the house I simply re-adjust
the thermostat. Life's too short!

Dave

On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 16:34:42 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
 wrote:


>In article <432ecbdc$0$28626$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net>,
>   Mary Fisher  wrote:
>> >> > Women like higher temperatures, and won't acclimatise.
>> >
>> >> Don't generalise. It devalues your otherwise reasonable argument.
>> >
>> > IMHO the first part of the statement is true.
>
>> You know how ALL women are?
>
>> Of course you don't. In your experience it might be true but your
>> opinion, humble or not,  is not.
>
>A generalization means just that. There will always be exceptions by
>nature. And you're an exceptional woman. ;-)


No, she's just as pedantic as all the rest !    ;-)

Andy

me9@privacy.net wrote:

>>The good thing about the CM67 is you can also invisibly offset the
>>thermostat.  You can tell her it's 23 deg when it's only 20 - win the
>>argument and also save money :-)
> That wouldn't work here. She'd check with her own thermometer. Probably at
> foot level. Perhaps a job for a small area of UFH?


Fur lined rigger boots

Owain

"Owain"  wrote in message 
news:1127147445.82975.0@doris.uk.clara.net...

> me9@privacy.net wrote:
>>>The good thing about the CM67 is you can also invisibly offset the
>>>thermostat.  You can tell her it's 23 deg when it's only 20 - win the
>>>argument and also save money :-)
>> That wouldn't work here. She'd check with her own thermometer. Probably 
>> at
>> foot level. Perhaps a job for a small area of UFH?
>
> Fur lined rigger boots


In fact that's a very good idea. If my feet are warm the rest of me is hot.

I hate having hot feet, which is one reason I wear sandals all year round 
except on the scooter in very cold weather.

But many people - men as well as women - think that appearance is more 
important than comfort and safety.

<sigh>

Mary

>
> Owain
> 

"Dave"  wrote in message 
news:dgmnu5$det$1@iss-nntp.leeds.ac.uk...

> Mary Fisher wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You haven't taught her.
>>>
>>> With respect, Mary, it's not a question of teaching, believe me I've
>>> tried.
>>> It's simply the case that SWMBO likes it warmer than I do,
>>
>> Ah - but you said she had no concept of how thermostats work ...
>
> Pedant :-) She doesn't /appear/ to- despite my explaining to her how they
> work - actually that's probably not quite true, she's not daft, just likes
> to be in control - and winding the thermostat up full means she's in 
> control
> of the boiler!
>
> We had the 'technical' discussion about it when we were in the car (she's
> just wound the a/c up full and I objected).


Ah - a technical discussion.

I can imagine it  :-)


> It seems that, for her at least,
> the hysterisis inherent in the system leads to too much variation in
> temperature.


What - all the time???


> As far as I'm concerned it works fine and I very rarely feel
> any variation - if I start to feel too warm in the house I simply 
> re-adjust
> the thermostat. Life's too short!


Buy her some fiur lined boots and a mink coat. T'wouldn't work with me  - 
but nor do 'technical discussions' <G>

Mary

>
> Dave
>
> 

"Dave Plowman (News)"  wrote in message 
news:4dace6cb1ddave@davenoise.co.uk...

> In article <432ecbdc$0$28626$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net>,
>   Mary Fisher  wrote:
>> >> > Women like higher temperatures, and won't acclimatise.
>> >
>> >> Don't generalise. It devalues your otherwise reasonable argument.
>> >
>> > IMHO the first part of the statement is true.
>
>> You know how ALL women are?
>
>> Of course you don't. In your experience it might be true but your
>> opinion, humble or not,  is not.
>
> A generalization means just that. There will always be exceptions by
> nature. And you're an exceptional woman. ;-)


I didn't know that I was any more exceptional than anyone else. We're all 
individuals, nobody's the same. Well, that will probably bring on examples 
of idential twins, in my experience even they have differences. If they 
didn't their parents wouldn't be able to tell them apart.

You still don't know about all women. My experience of how women perceive 
temperture is different from yours. What does that mean?

Mary

>
> -- 
> *If you can read this, thank a teecher
>
>    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
>                  To e-mail, change noise into sound. 

On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 09:11:40 GMT, Lobster
 wrote:


>Now that the weather is turning cooler and the CH is on again, SWMBO and 
>me have started the usual game where she keeps turning it up and I keep 
>turning it down again... clearly we have a marital problem in that she 
>can be wrapped up in a jumper but with goosepimples, whereas I'm sitting 
>  next to her wearing a T-shirt, but mopping sweat from my brow.
>
>This year SWMBO has resorted to claiming I have some medical condition 
>which has screwed up my thermoregulation, and the latest tactic she has 
>sunk to is to blame the insulating layer of subcutaneous fat which has 
>admittedly been increasing in thickness around my torso over the years, 
>and that I need to lose some weight... Pah!


Hi,

Maybe get your blood pressure checked, if high it can lead to feeling
too hot as your heart pumps harder to move the blood around your body.

Also if overweight the extra bodymass makes your body generate more
heat as you move around.

What temperature are your rooms heated to BTW? With my parents it's
the other way round to you and your SWMBO.

cheers,
Pete.

"Chris Bacon"  wrote in message 
news:432e844e$1_2@x-privat.org...
....

> Bedroom, 18 deg. C; downstairs, 20 should be OK. ...


Although those are the recommended temperatures, I find them far too cold.

Colin Bignell

nightjar <nightjar@ wrote:

> "Chris Bacon" wrote...
>>Bedroom, 18 deg. C; downstairs, 20 should be OK. ...
> 
> Although those are the recommended temperatures, I find them far too cold.


I didn't know that. I remember thinking, when the Young Master
was newborn, that the recommended temperatures for rooms (which
is 16-20 deg. C, comfortable wearing light clothing) seemed a
bit low, especially considering the heat in the hospital. The
upstairs room I'm in is now about 60 deg. F, downstairs it's
17C (up a bit from when I came in, 'cos I've had the door open!).

Matt wrote:
  You can tell her it's 23 deg when it's only 20 - win the

> argument and also save money :-)
> 
> 

	Just how much suffering can you endure??   Marry a rich woman who pays 
the bills and settle for a reasonable 25C ambient all the year round!

	Regards
	Capitol

In article <432f0d11$1_2@x-privat.org>, chrispbacon@thai.com says...


> The
> upstairs room I'm in is now about 60 deg. F, downstairs it's
> 17C 


Metrication hasn't reached upstairs yet?

David

David McNeish wrote:

> chrispbacon says...
>>The
>>upstairs room I'm in is now about 60 deg. F, downstairs it's
>>17C 
> 
> Metrication hasn't reached upstairs yet?


:) The clock (!) downstairs is set to read in deg. C;
the thermometer on the wall here reads both; I use both
interchangably, although I must confess a propensity to
reading warm summer days in deg. F, but cold winter ones
(not that we're there yet!) in deg. C. I have no idea why.

On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 20:50:52 +0100, Chris Bacon wrote:


> although I must confess a propensity to
> reading warm summer days in deg. F, but cold winter ones
> (not that we're there yet!) in deg. C. I have no idea why.


You and me both - I do exactly the same. Looking in uk.sci.weather it would
seem we're not alone in this :-)
-- 
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Hugh Jampton

"nightjar .uk.com>" <nightjar@<insert my surname here> wrote in message 
news:RYednbY2UMj5ZLPeRVnyiw@giganews.com...

>
> "Chris Bacon"  wrote in message 
> news:432e844e$1_2@x-privat.org...
> ...
>> Bedroom, 18 deg. C; downstairs, 20 should be OK. ...
>
> Although those are the recommended temperatures, I find them far too cold.
>
> Colin Bignell


You're all wimps :-)

Mary

>
> 

In message <ghvXe.7674$ws4.7194@newsfe5-win.ntli.net>, Lobster 
 writes

>Now that the weather is turning cooler and the CH is on again, SWMBO 
>and me have started the usual game where she keeps turning it up and I 
>keep turning it down again... clearly we have a marital problem in that 
>she can be wrapped up in a jumper but with goosepimples, whereas I'm 
>sitting  next to her wearing a T-shirt, but mopping sweat from my brow.
>
>This year SWMBO has resorted to claiming I have some medical condition 
>which has screwed up my thermoregulation, and the latest tactic she has 
>sunk to is to blame the insulating layer of subcutaneous fat which has 
>admittedly been increasing in thickness around my torso over the years, 
>and that I need to lose some weight... Pah!
>
>I know there's no easy solution to the problem of our temperature 
>incompatibility, but I'm curious to know what others consider to be a 
>'normal' temperature around the house - ie is it 'my' problem or 'hers'!
>

Same problem here, even down to different duvets

If you do find an answer - I want to know

another helpful post from me ...

-- 
geoff

Chris Bacon  writes:

>David McNeish wrote:
>> chrispbacon says...
>>>The
>>>upstairs room I'm in is now about 60 deg. F, downstairs it's
>>>17C 
>> 
>> Metrication hasn't reached upstairs yet?
>
>:) The clock (!) downstairs is set to read in deg. C;
>the thermometer on the wall here reads both; I use both
>interchangably, although I must confess a propensity to
>reading warm summer days in deg. F, but cold winter ones
>(not that we're there yet!) in deg. C. I have no idea why.


Apparently it's common, much to the despair of metrication fascists (hurrah!)

They call it "centiheit".

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Huge wrote:

> Chris Bacon writes:
> > I must confess a propensity to
> > reading warm summer days in deg. F, but cold winter ones
> > (not that we're there yet!) in deg. C. I have no idea why.
> 
> Apparently it's common, much to the despair of metrication fascists (hurrah!)


Balls to 'em. Anyway, wot jew bleedin' mean, common? Centigrade
was originally 100=freezing, 0=boiling, just goes to show.

In article <432ef099$0$23043$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net>,
   Mary Fisher  wrote:

> > A generalization means just that. There will always be exceptions by
> > nature. And you're an exceptional woman. ;-)

> I didn't know that I was any more exceptional than anyone else. We're
> all individuals, nobody's the same.


But you're rather rare in posting to uk.d-i-y? The vast majority are
blokes. Apart from IMM, obviously. Gawd knows what it is. Perhaps Zog
doesn't have sexes.


> Well, that will probably bring on
> examples of idential twins, in my experience even they have
> differences. If they didn't their parents wouldn't be able to tell them
> apart.

> You still don't know about all women. My experience of how women
> perceive temperture is different from yours. What does that mean?


Seems that most here agree that females seem to want higher temperatures
than males - in general. I'm not making any judgments based on this. ;-)

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    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
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Lobster wrote:


> I know there's no easy solution to the problem of our temperature 
> incompatibility, but I'm curious to know what others consider to be a 
> 'normal' temperature around the house - ie is it 'my' problem or 'hers'!


In the winter we have our programmable stat set to 16 overnight, and 
between 18 and 22 at other times of the day. Can cope with upto 25 
without too much problem, but 27 or more starts to get too hot for me 
and SWMBO.


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John.

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ben wrote:


> Is she skinny? skinny people feel the cold more so than people of average
> weight.


Not always true, and in fact often the reverse. Skinny people often have 
more brown fat cells and as a result can matabolise faster and better 
regulate their temperature.

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"Chris Bacon"  wrote in message 
news:432f3005$1_3@x-privat.org...

> Huge wrote:
>> Chris Bacon writes:
>> > I must confess a propensity to
>> > reading warm summer days in deg. F, but cold winter ones
>> > (not that we're there yet!) in deg. C. I have no idea why.
>>
>> Apparently it's common, much to the despair of metrication fascists 
>> (hurrah!)
>
> Balls to 'em. Anyway, wot jew bleedin' mean, common? Centigrade
> was originally 100=freezing, 0=boiling, just goes to show.


Fahrenheit also ran from 0 = freezing point of saturated brine to 100 = 
blood temperature. There is a theory that the average blood temperature in 
his day could have been higher than today, because of a background of low 
level infections in the population.

Colin Bignell

"Mary Fisher"  wrote in message 
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>
> "nightjar .uk.com>" <nightjar@<insert my surname here> wrote in message 
> news:RYednbY2UMj5ZLPeRVnyiw@giganews.com...
>>
>> "Chris Bacon"  wrote in message 
>> news:432e844e$1_2@x-privat.org...
>> ...
>>> Bedroom, 18 deg. C; downstairs, 20 should be OK. ...
>>
>> Although those are the recommended temperatures, I find them far too 
>> cold.
>>
>> Colin Bignell
>
> You're all wimps :-)


I think I was a desert lizard in another life.

Colin Bignell

On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 13:42:23 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
 wrote:


>In article <432ea856$0$32464$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net>,
>   Mary Fisher  wrote:
>> > Women like higher temperatures, and won't acclimatise.
>
>> Don't generalise. It devalues your otherwise reasonable argument.
>
>IMHO the first part of the statement is true. And I'm not sure if you can
>acclimatise to uncomfortable temperatures


Oh you can. When I lived in Thailand the temperature was c 30 degrees
and near 100% humidity all the time, except once when it got REALLY
COLD and we were all shivering and buying any woolly clothing we could
find. The temperature was 24 degrees.

Anna


             ~~            Anna Kettle, Suffolk, England   
 |""""|    ~                   Lime plaster repairs
 / ^^ \ //    Freehand modelling in lime: overmantels, pargeting etc
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On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 21:42:45 UTC, Chris Bacon  
wrote:


> Huge wrote:
> > Chris Bacon writes:
> > > I must confess a propensity to
> > > reading warm summer days in deg. F, but cold winter ones
> > > (not that we're there yet!) in deg. C. I have no idea why.
> > 
> > Apparently it's common, much to the despair of metrication fascists (hurrah!)
> 
> Balls to 'em. Anyway, wot jew bleedin' mean, common? Centigrade
> was originally 100=freezing, 0=boiling, just goes to show.


When did they reverse it to 0=freezing, 100=boiling, then? Oh, sorry, 
that's Celsius!
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Bob Eager wrote:

> When did they reverse it to 0=freezing, 100=boiling, then? Oh, sorry, 
> that's Celsius!


Celsius is centigrade.

Anna@kettlenet.co.uk (Anna Kettle) writes:

>On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 13:42:23 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
> wrote:
>
>>In article <432ea856$0$32464$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net>,
>>   Mary Fisher  wrote:
>>> > Women like higher temperatures, and won't acclimatise.
>>
>>> Don't generalise. It devalues your otherwise reasonable argument.
>>
>>IMHO the first part of the statement is true. And I'm not sure if you can
>>acclimatise to uncomfortable temperatures
>
>Oh you can. When I lived in Thailand the temperature was c 30 degrees
>and near 100% humidity all the time, except once when it got REALLY
>COLD and we were all shivering and buying any woolly clothing we could
>find. The temperature was 24 degrees.


Once when we were on holiday in Kenya, we stayed at a camp in the Masai Mara
where a chap would come and escort you to dinner each night because of the
danger from animals (*). We would be wearing short & T-shirts & he had a woolen
overcoat (and wellies!) on.

(* For theatrical effect, I suspect)

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"Mary Fisher"  wrote in message
news:432fc442$0$31495$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net...

>
> "Anna Kettle"  wrote in message
> news:432fa89e.1257428@news.plus.net...
> >>
> >>IMHO the first part of the statement is true. And I'm not sure if you
can
> >>acclimatise to uncomfortable temperatures
> >
> > Oh you can. When I lived in Thailand the temperature was c 30 degrees
> > and near 100% humidity all the time, except once when it got REALLY
> > COLD and we were all shivering and buying any woolly clothing we could
> > find. The temperature was 24 degrees.
>
> I'm sweating just reading that :-)
>
> But yes, I think people MUST be able to acclimatise to different
> temperatures. My Indian and African neighbours don't wear any 'warmer'
> clothes than we do, their houses aren't over-heated, in my opinion.
>
> Mary


Yes, we went to Crete for 3 weeks this year and noticed that the overnight
setting for the aircon had to be gradually increased to avoid waking up cold

But there was still the opposite sex differential to contend with

Regards Jeff

"Jeff"  wrote in message 
news:1127206671.97072.0@iris.uk.clara.net...

>
>>
> But there was still the opposite sex differential to contend with


That's true for everyone.

Women included :-)

Mary

>
> Regards Jeff
>
> 

In article <ghvXe.7674$ws4.7194@newsfe5-win.ntli.net>, Lobster
<URL:mailto:davidlobsterpot601@hotmail.com> wrote:


> Now that the weather is turning cooler and the CH is on again, SWMBO and 
> me have started the usual game where she keeps turning it up and I keep 
> turning it down again... clearly we have a marital problem in that she 
> can be wrapped up in a jumper but with goosepimples, whereas I'm sitting 
>   next to her wearing a T-shirt, but mopping sweat from my brow.


I dealt with that by adjusting the stops on the radiator thermostat heads.
She thinks it's flat out (it only has 2 settings apparently, on and off, she
can't comprehend thermostatic action. :-) )

So the head shows setting 5, but it is actually about 3, 65 degrees.

-- 
AJL

"Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics)"  wrote in message 
news:ant201221868dVpW@office.ajlelectronics.co.uk...


>
> I dealt with that by adjusting the stops on the radiator thermostat heads.
> She thinks it's flat out (it only has 2 settings apparently, on and off, 
> she
> can't comprehend thermostatic action. :-) )


So teach her. Properly and patiently. I know both at the same time are 
difficult for you but if you try you can do it :-)

Mary

"Bob Eager"  wrote:


>On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 21:42:45 UTC, Chris Bacon  
>wrote:
>
>> Huge wrote:
>> > Chris Bacon writes:
>> > > I must confess a propensity to
>> > > reading warm summer days in deg. F, but cold winter ones
>> > > (not that we're there yet!) in deg. C. I have no idea why.
>> > 
>> > Apparently it's common, much to the despair of metrication fascists (hurrah!)
>> 
>> Balls to 'em. Anyway, wot jew bleedin' mean, common? Centigrade
>> was originally 100=freezing, 0=boiling, just goes to show.
>
>When did they reverse it to 0=freezing, 100=boiling, then? Oh, sorry, 
>that's Celsius!


It was reversed after Anders Celcius died

But, if you need to be really pedantic, the standard boiling point of
water isn't 100 deg C.  It boils at 99.97 deg C at 1 standard
atmosphere (101.325kPa) , and at 99.61 deg C at 1 bar (100kPa) which
is now taken to be the standard boiling point of water.

This of course fully explains why tea is more lukewarm than it used to
be.



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"Matt"  wrote in message 
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> "Bob Eager"  wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 21:42:45 UTC, Chris Bacon 
>>wrote:
>>
>>> Huge wrote:
>>> > Chris Bacon writes:
>>> > > I must confess a propensity to
>>> > > reading warm summer days in deg. F, but cold winter ones
>>> > > (not that we're there yet!) in deg. C. I have no idea why.
>>> >
>>> > Apparently it's common, much to the despair of metrication fascists 
>>> > (hurrah!)
>>>
>>> Balls to 'em. Anyway, wot jew bleedin' mean, common? Centigrade
>>> was originally 100=freezing, 0=boiling, just goes to show.
>>
>>When did they reverse it to 0=freezing, 100=boiling, then? Oh, sorry,
>>that's Celsius!
>
> It was reversed after Anders Celcius died
>
> But, if you need to be really pedantic, the standard boiling point of
> water isn't 100 deg C.  It boils at 99.97 deg C at 1 standard
> atmosphere (101.325kPa) , and at 99.61 deg C at 1 bar (100kPa) which
> is now taken to be the standard boiling point of water.
>
> This of course fully explains why tea is more lukewarm than it used to
> be.


Ner - that's because you're not drinking it at sea level.

Mary

>
>
>
> -- 

I'm known by SWMBO as 'UnderPants' man as that what my evening attire
consists of with a 'T' shirt or Tracky top. I can cool down with a can
of John Smiths et al.

On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 08:27:55 UTC, Chris Bacon  
wrote:


> Bob Eager wrote:
> > When did they reverse it to 0=freezing, 100=boiling, then? Oh, sorry, 
> > that's Celsius!
> 
> Celsius is centigrade.


Celsius is the correct name.
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In article , rde42
@spamcop.net says...

> On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 08:27:55 UTC, Chris Bacon  
> wrote:
> 
> > Bob Eager wrote:
> > > When did they reverse it to 0=freezing, 100=boiling, then? Oh, sorry, 
> > > that's Celsius!
> > 
> > Celsius is centigrade.
> 
> Celsius is the correct name.
> 

Centigrade is just a general term that means a scale with 100 divisions 
- AIUI it's not incorrect just imprecise.

wrote in message 
news:1127231780.455173.267290@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...

> I'm known by SWMBO as 'UnderPants' man as that what my evening attire
> consists of with a 'T' shirt or Tracky top. I can cool down with a can
> of John Smiths et al.


John Smiths?

That says it all :-)

Mary

> 

"Rob Morley"  wrote in message 
news:MPG.1d9a44ca1b90d4a2989894@news.individual.net...

> In article , rde42
> @spamcop.net says...
>> On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 08:27:55 UTC, Chris Bacon 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Bob Eager wrote:
>> > > When did they reverse it to 0=freezing, 100=boiling, then? Oh, sorry,
>> > > that's Celsius!
>> >
>> > Celsius is centigrade.
>>
>> Celsius is the correct name.
>>
> Centigrade is just a general term that means a scale with 100 divisions
> - AIUI it's not incorrect just imprecise.


Near enough for ordinary mortals.

Mary

"Mary Fisher"  wrote:


>
>"Matt"  wrote in message 

>> This of course fully explains why tea is more lukewarm than it used to
>> be.
>
>Ner - that's because you're not drinking it at sea level.


If the sea reached the level of my kettle half of the UK would be a
few hundred feet under water - something Dr Drivels plumbing might
achieve sooner rather than later.

--

"Mary Fisher"  wrote :-

>
> John Smiths?
>
> That says it all :-)
>
> Mary


What should it be ?

Theakstons old pec ? or a nice bottle of red ?

Regards Jeff

"Jeff"  wrote in message 
news:1127238880.27808.0@eunomia.uk.clara.net...

>
> "Mary Fisher"  wrote :-
>>
>> John Smiths?
>>
>> That says it all :-)
>>
>> Mary
>
> What should it be ?
>
> Theakstons old pec ?


There are hundreds of good beers, JS's isn't one of them.

I once went to an eventwhere they were GIVING way JS's.

There were few takers.

But there again we were in Yorkshire ... :-)


> or a nice bottle of red ?


Oh come on! That's as silly as saying "a cold beer".

Ot perhaps it sums up your knowledge of wine.

Mary



>
> Regards Jeff
>
> 

"Matt"  wrote in message 
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> "Mary Fisher"  wrote:
>
>>
>>"Matt"  wrote in message
>
>>> This of course fully explains why tea is more lukewarm than it used to
>>> be.
>>
>>Ner - that's because you're not drinking it at sea level.
>
> If the sea reached the level of my kettle half of the UK would be a
> few hundred feet under water - something Dr Drivels plumbing might
> achieve sooner rather than later.


Same here.

But altitude does have some effect on boiling.

Mary

>
> -- 

In message , 
mcbrien410@aol.com writes

>I'm known by SWMBO as 'UnderPants' man as that what my evening attire
>consists of with a 'T' shirt or Tracky top. I can cool down with a can
>of John Smiths et al.
>

Yuck

-- 
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"Mary Fisher"  wrote in message
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>
> There are hundreds of good beers, JS's isn't one of them.
>
> I once went to an eventwhere they were GIVING way JS's.
>
> There were few takers.
>
> But there again we were in Yorkshire ... :-)
>
> > or a nice bottle of red ?
>
> Oh come on! That's as silly as saying "a cold beer".
>
> Ot perhaps it sums up your knowledge of wine.
>
> Mary


I bet you drink pints

Regards Jeff

"Jeff"  wrote in message 
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>

>
> I bet you drink pints


Used to. I was a Guiness man. I remember once being in a pub with a friend, 
Joss, when someone he knew offered to buy a round. He came back with a half 
for me. I looked at Joss in wonderment, not saying anything. He shrugged and 
said, "He's from the south." The chap went back to the bar and got a pint.

Nowadays I sometimes drink speciality beers with a meal for which it's more 
appropriate than wines.

We don't go to pubs any more.

Well, very, very rarely.

Mary

mcbrien410@aol.com wrote:

> I'm known by SWMBO as 'UnderPants' man as that what my evening attire
> consists of with a 'T' shirt or Tracky top.


Gracious me. Do you wear a Tracky top under or over a tuxedo?

 > I can cool down with a can of John Smiths et al.

I warm up with a glass of Glenmorangie.

Owain

On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 17:40:30 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
 wrote:


>
> wrote in message 
>news:1127231780.455173.267290@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>> I'm known by SWMBO as 'UnderPants' man as that what my evening attire
>> consists of with a 'T' shirt or Tracky top. I can cool down with a can
>> of John Smiths et al.
>
>John Smiths?
>
>That says it all :-)
>
>Mary
>> 
>


Tetley's foamy stuff pulled on beer engines with the sparkler screwed
right down.    Is this why Yorkshire barmaids have large er. biceps?


-- 

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"Mary Fisher"  wrote:


>
>"Matt"  wrote in message 
>news:dsg0j11f4bm7lhrte5p3ub0u5rbeotddu9@4ax.com...
>> "Mary Fisher"  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Matt"  wrote in message
>>
>>>> This of course fully explains why tea is more lukewarm than it used to
>>>> be.
>>>
>>>Ner - that's because you're not drinking it at sea level.
>>
>> If the sea reached the level of my kettle half of the UK would be a
>> few hundred feet under water - something Dr Drivels plumbing might
>> achieve sooner rather than later.
>
>Same here.
>
>But altitude does have some effect on boiling.


I think mentioning kPa in my original posting might have given a bit
of a hint that I knew that ;-)   If you times kPa by 10  you get good
old millibars used everywhere on the weather forecasts - except for
some perverse reason down under where they use hecto pascals instead
(which are nothing to do with Rowntrees Fruit Pastilles)

The boiling water at altitude problem was one of the reasons it took
so long for a Brit to get to the top of Everest. The tea and biscuits
on the way up were so bad they kept turning back.


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On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 17:53:17 UTC, "Jeff"  wrote:


> "Mary Fisher"  wrote :-
> >
> > John Smiths?
> >
> > That says it all :-)
> >
> > Mary
> 
> What should it be ?
> 
> Theakstons old pec ? or a nice bottle of red ?


Come down here and get the proper beer from the oldest brewery in the 
country...forget the johnny-come-lately Yorkshire stuff!

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On 20 Sep,  
     "Mary Fisher"  wrote:


> 
>  wrote in message 
> news:1127231780.455173.267290@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> > I'm known by SWMBO as 'UnderPants' man as that what my evening attire
> > consists of with a 'T' shirt or Tracky top. I can cool down with a can
> > of John Smiths et al.
> 
> John Smiths?
> 
> That says it all :-)


The other Tadcaster Smith (Sam) is *much* better.

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On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 18:05:01 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
 wrote:


>"Owain"  wrote in message 
>news:1127147445.82975.0@doris.uk.clara.net...
>> me9@privacy.net wrote:
>>>>The good thing about the CM67 is you can also invisibly offset the
>>>>thermostat.  You can tell her it's 23 deg when it's only 20 - win the
>>>>argument and also save money :-)
>>> That wouldn't work here. She'd check with her own thermometer. Probably 
>>> at
>>> foot level. Perhaps a job for a small area of UFH?
>>
>> Fur lined rigger boots
>
>In fact that's a very good idea. If my feet are warm the rest of me is hot.
>
>I hate having hot feet, which is one reason I wear sandals all year round 
>except on the scooter in very cold weather.


Getting your feet too hot can be fatal - as Joan of Arc found out.

(sorry)

John
-- 
John White
SCA Electrical, Manchester               http://www.scaelectrical.co.uk/
Domestic and commercial electrical contractors

In article , 
paint@duluxtheshaggydog.com says...
<snip>

> The boiling water at altitude problem was one of the reasons it took
> so long for a Brit to get to the top of Everest. The tea and biscuits
> on the way up were so bad they kept turning back.
> 

If only they'd taken a pressure cooker ...

On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 23:09:24 +0100, me9@privacy.net wrote:


> On 20 Sep,  
>      "Mary Fisher"  wrote:
> 
>> 
>>  wrote in message 
>> news:1127231780.455173.267290@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>>> I'm known by SWMBO as 'UnderPants' man as that what my evening attire
>>> consists of with a 'T' shirt or Tracky top. I can cool down with a can
>>> of John Smiths et al.
>> 
>> John Smiths?
>> 
>> That says it all :-)
> 
> The other Tadcaster Smith (Sam) is *much* better.


We once spent a weekend in Tadcaster for that very reason.

nog  wrote:


>We once spent a weekend in Tadcaster


You poor bastard, hope you recovered from the shock of going to a
place where 99% of the population won't admit to outsiders where they
live.

Despite the minor (and questionable to many) attractions of one of its
breweries Tadcaster is a truly awful backward place, mainly it has to
be said down to just one bloke who has somewhat of an interest in that
brewery, and an aversion to anything post 1066 to the extent that he
makes the Amish look like NASA rocket scientists.  

Round wheels for instance only came into common usage in the past few
months, electric lighting might be introduced in the next century and
the internet is still a maybe for around the next millennium.  Indoor
privvies are the thing of the future and every peasants dream, but woe
betide you ever try and submit a planning application for a scullery
extension as the lord of the manor will automatically object.  Indeed
the last survey showed washing machine ownership was lower than in
Albert Square E20 as most of the population still go down to the river
and use a convenient rock.

The best parts of Tadcaster are the A64, A162 and A659 heading
anywhere!


--

In article <43301060$0$23043$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net>, Mary Fisher
<URL:mailto:mary.fisher@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:


> 
> So teach her. Properly and patiently. I know both at the same time are 
> difficult for you but if you try you can do it :-)


Mary, I have tried. Nothing seems to go in and I have seven years experience
of teaching thick adults how to breathe etc in the prison service. :-)

Some of her "gems" have been previously noted, including berating me for
leaving switches on when there is no plug in the socket. Apparently, the
electricity leaks out onto the floor.

When measuring a cabinet, she asked for a ruler (rule!). After trying it
this way and that, she handed it back saying " this one's no good, the
inches are too big." :-)

-- 
AJL

John White wrote:


>I hate having hot feet, which is one reason I wear sandals all year round 
>>except on the scooter in very cold weather.
> 
> Getting your feet too hot can be fatal - as Joan of Arc found out.


Yep, I hear she crashed her scooter

David

In article , me8
@privacy.net says...

> In article <43301060$0$23043$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net>, Mary Fisher
> <URL:mailto:mary.fisher@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > So teach her. Properly and patiently. I know both at the same time are 
> > difficult for you but if you try you can do it :-)
> 
> Mary, I have tried. Nothing seems to go in and I have seven years experience
> of teaching thick adults how to breathe etc in the prison service. :-)
> 
> Some of her "gems" have been previously noted, including berating me for
> leaving switches on when there is no plug in the socket. Apparently, the
> electricity leaks out onto the floor.
> 

Not so bad with sockets, but if you leave a bulb out the lectrickery can 
drip on your head.

"Andy Hall" <andyh@hall.nospam> wrote in message 
news:veu0j1p9a3389f95484pc98qequdlvs3tg@4ax.com...

> On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 17:40:30 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
>  wrote:
>
>>
>> wrote in message
>>news:1127231780.455173.267290@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>>> I'm known by SWMBO as 'UnderPants' man as that what my evening attire
>>> consists of with a 'T' shirt or Tracky top. I can cool down with a can
>>> of John Smiths et al.
>>
>>John Smiths?
>>
>>That says it all :-)
>>
>>Mary
>>>
>>
>
> Tetley's foamy stuff pulled on beer engines with the sparkler screwed
> right down.    Is this why Yorkshire barmaids have large er. biceps?


I haven't seen any barmaids for many years so can't comment.

But I agree that Tetleys is no better than JS.

Mary


>
>
> -- 
>
> .andy
>
> To email, substitute .nospam with .gl 

wrote in message news:4DAD8EB0BD%brian13434@lycos.co.uk...

> On 20 Sep,
>     "Mary Fisher"  wrote:
>
>>
>>  wrote in message
>> news:1127231780.455173.267290@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>> > I'm known by SWMBO as 'UnderPants' man as that what my evening attire
>> > consists of with a 'T' shirt or Tracky top. I can cool down with a can
>> > of John Smiths et al.
>>
>> John Smiths?
>>
>> That says it all :-)
>
> The other Tadcaster Smith (Sam) is *much* better.


It is.

Mary

>
> -- 
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>  Change lycos to yahoo to reply 

"Owain"  wrote in message 
news:1127250029.26322.0@damia.uk.clara.net...

> mcbrien410@aol.com wrote:
>> I'm known by SWMBO as 'UnderPants' man as that what my evening attire
>> consists of with a 'T' shirt or Tracky top.
>
> Gracious me. Do you wear a Tracky top under or over a tuxedo?
>
> > I can cool down with a can of John Smiths et al.
>
> I warm up with a glass of Glenmorangie.


I prefer Ardbeg but I rarely remember to drink anything except with a meal 
:-(

Mary

"Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics)"  wrote in message 
news:ant210911b49dVpW@office.ajlelectronics.co.uk...

> In article <43301060$0$23043$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net>, Mary Fisher
> <URL:mailto:mary.fisher@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>> So teach her. Properly and patiently. I know both at the same time are
>> difficult for you but if you try you can do it :-)
>
> Mary, I have tried. Nothing seems to go in and I have seven years 
> experience
> of teaching thick adults how to breathe etc in the prison service. :-)


Perhaps she's not as thick as the pupils you're use to

>
> Some of her "gems" have been previously noted, including berating me for
> leaving switches on when there is no plug in the socket. Apparently, the
> electricity leaks out onto the floor.


Everyone knows that.

>
> When measuring a cabinet, she asked for a ruler (rule!). After trying it
> this way and that, she handed it back saying " this one's no good, the
> inches are too big." :-)


Sounds about right to me.

I like your wife, she has a sense of humour. If only you could see it ... 
:-)

Mary

>
> -- 
> AJL 

"Rob Morley"  wrote in message 
news:MPG.1d9b637221b701419898a6@news.individual.net...

> In article , me8
> @privacy.net says...
>> In article <43301060$0$23043$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net>, Mary 
>> Fisher
>> <URL:mailto:mary.fisher@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > So teach her. Properly and patiently. I know both at the same time are
>> > difficult for you but if you try you can do it :-)
>>
>> Mary, I have tried. Nothing seems to go in and I have seven years 
>> experience
>> of teaching thick adults how to breathe etc in the prison service. :-)
>>
>> Some of her "gems" have been previously noted, including berating me for
>> leaving switches on when there is no plug in the socket. Apparently, the
>> electricity leaks out onto the floor.
>>
> Not so bad with sockets, but if you leave a bulb out the lectrickery can
> drip on your head.


Not from a table lamp. It wells up, dribbles down the side and stains the 
tablecloth.

Why they can't invent electricity which is lighter than air I don't know.

Mary

In article <43315f94$0$28628$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net>, 
mary.fisher@zetnet.co.uk says...

> 
> "Rob Morley"  wrote in message 
> news:MPG.1d9b637221b701419898a6@news.individual.net...
> > In article , me8
> > @privacy.net says...
> >> In article <43301060$0$23043$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net>, Mary 
> >> Fisher
> >> <URL:mailto:mary.fisher@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > So teach her. Properly and patiently. I know both at the same time are
> >> > difficult for you but if you try you can do it :-)
> >>
> >> Mary, I have tried. Nothing seems to go in and I have seven years 
> >> experience
> >> of teaching thick adults how to breathe etc in the prison service. :-)
> >>
> >> Some of her "gems" have been previously noted, including berating me for
> >> leaving switches on when there is no plug in the socket. Apparently, the
> >> electricity leaks out onto the floor.
> >>
> > Not so bad with sockets, but if you leave a bulb out the lectrickery can
> > drip on your head.
> 
> Not from a table lamp. It wells up, dribbles down the side and stains the 
> tablecloth.
> 
> Why they can't invent electricity which is lighter than air I don't know.
> 

I think the American stuff is, but you need more of it to make the 
little waterwheel thingies go round.

Mary Fisher  wrote:

>
>But many people - men as well as women - think that appearance is more 
>important than comfort and safety.


  Perhaps you don't care about aesthetics...

-- 
                                                         Selah

"Rob Morley"  wrote in message 
news:MPG.1d9b7c114ba038139898a9@news.individual.net...


>> >> Apparently, the
>> >> electricity leaks out onto the floor.
>> >>
>> > Not so bad with sockets, but if you leave a bulb out the lectrickery 
>> > can
>> > drip on your head.
>>
>> Not from a table lamp. It wells up, dribbles down the side and stains the
>> tablecloth.
>>
>> Why they can't invent electricity which is lighter than air I don't know.
>>
> I think the American stuff is, but you need more of it to make the
> little waterwheel thingies go round.


Well, there's an opening for an entrepreneur importer.

As for waterwheels, things must have changed since my days if you need 
elecricity leakage to make them turn. There has been a drought of course...

MAry