Hi,
I have a first floor bathroom on a suspended timber floor. What are
the best current options for flooring this area before a new bathroom
suite goes in? I'm not looking for wet room standards, just adequately
waterproof, warm, good looking and serviceable.
Tips appreciated.
TIA
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Personally, I think cushioned vinyl style floor is fine for a bathroom,
especially if small enough to avoid any seams / welds etc. If putting
over floorboards, lay hardboard first to even out the floor. If you
turn the edges up and weld the corners you can make it more waterproof.
If you tile, the floor will be colder without underfloor heating. With
tiles, you should put down plywood (levels may be a problem) with lots
of screws, and use a flexible tile cement. Just don't use carpet ! I've
just been to a house with the many-years old bathroom carpet lifted.
Smells like a pub toilet.
Simon.

> If you tile, the floor will be colder without underfloor heating.


Seconded!
Tiled bathroom floors look trendy enough but are one of the worst examples 
of style over functionality you will see in this country!
Fine in the med, but not a UK residence with our temperature range.

Phil

On 19 Sep 2005 02:41:04 -0700, sm_jamieson@hotmail.com wrote:


>Personally, I think cushioned vinyl style floor is fine for a bathroom,
>especially if small enough to avoid any seams / welds etc. If putting
>over floorboards, lay hardboard first to even out the floor. If you
>turn the edges up and weld the corners you can make it more waterproof.
>If you tile, the floor will be colder without underfloor heating. With
>tiles, you should put down plywood (levels may be a problem) with lots
>of screws, and use a flexible tile cement. Just don't use carpet ! I've
>just been to a house with the many-years old bathroom carpet lifted.
>Smells like a pub toilet.
>Simon.


Thanks, I'm glad you think cushioned vinyl would be suitable, I rather
fancy that option myself. I'd like to lay it under the toilet bowl and
the sink pedestal rather than cutting around them but I'm not sure
about the bath. It's a small room and the bath, with a small box-like
extension added, takes up the whole of one wall. Do you think it would
be better to lay the vinyl under the entire bath area, or just stop at
the outer bath panel? 
I like the idea of turning up the edges of the vinyl and welding the
corners do you think it's feasible to turn the edges up in front of
the skirting, rather than behind it?
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"TheScullster"  wrote:


>
>> If you tile, the floor will be colder without underfloor heating.
>
>Seconded!
>Tiled bathroom floors look trendy enough but are one of the worst examples 
>of style over functionality you will see in this country!
>Fine in the med, but not a UK residence with our temperature range.


Regardless of the location you'll still fall flat on your arse once
the tiles get wet.


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Mike Halmarack wrote:

> sm_jamieson wrote:
>>Personally, I think cushioned vinyl style floor is fine for a bathroom,
>>especially if small enough to avoid any seams / welds etc. If putting
>>over floorboards, lay hardboard first to even out the floor. If you
>>turn the edges up and weld the corners you can make it more waterproof.


How waterproof does it need to be? Is MH going to turn the floor into
a swimming-pool? For normal use, I don't see the need to turn up the
corners - if *really* thought necessary, surely a fillet pinned around
the edges to raise them by a 1/8" (or a few mm) would be easily enough?



>>If you tile, the floor will be colder without underfloor heating.


They won't *be& colder, but they may *feel* colder!



>>With
>>tiles, you should put down plywood (levels may be a problem) with lots
>>of screws, and use a flexible tile cement.


Or even use cork tiles.



>>Just don't use carpet ! I've
>>just been to a house with the many-years old bathroom carpet lifted.


That can be a problem with the wrong sort of carpet.



> Thanks, I'm glad you think cushioned vinyl would be suitable, I rather
> fancy that option myself


It covers the lot with no joins, and is easy to clean, and feels warm.



> I'd like to lay it under the toilet bowl and
> the sink pedestal rather than cutting around them


Hmm. Difficult. If it can be trimmed right, I would not do that.



> but I'm not sure
> about the bath. It's a small room and the bath, with a small box-like
> extension added, takes up the whole of one wall. Do you think it would
> be better to lay the vinyl under the entire bath area, or just stop at
> the outer bath panel?


If room, run it inder the panel and onto a thin batten.



> I like the idea of turning up the edges of the vinyl and welding the
> corners


I don't think you can weld it - seal, yes.



> do you think it's feasible to turn the edges up in front of
> the skirting, rather than behind it?


Yes, on a fillet. I wouldn't turn it up over the skirting.

On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 14:30:18 +0100, Chris Bacon 
wrote:


>Mike Halmarack wrote:
>> sm_jamieson wrote:
>>>Personally, I think cushioned vinyl style floor is fine for a bathroom,
>>>especially if small enough to avoid any seams / welds etc. If putting
>>>over floorboards, lay hardboard first to even out the floor. If you
>>>turn the edges up and weld the corners you can make it more waterproof.
>
>How waterproof does it need to be? Is MH going to turn the floor into
>a swimming-pool? For normal use, I don't see the need to turn up the
>corners - if *really* thought necessary, surely a fillet pinned around
>the edges to raise them by a 1/8" (or a few mm) would be easily enough?


Yes, seems easier to me. I'll go for that one.


>>>If you tile, the floor will be colder without underfloor heating.
>
>They won't *be& colder, but they may *feel* colder!


Be colder or feel colder is colder in my book. :-)


>>>With
>>>tiles, you should put down plywood (levels may be a problem) with lots
>>>of screws, and use a flexible tile cement.
>
>Or even use cork tiles.


I did that once, it was OK, a bit brown though.



>>>Just don't use carpet ! I've
>>>just been to a house with the many-years old bathroom carpet lifted.
>
>That can be a problem with the wrong sort of carpet.
>
>
>> Thanks, I'm glad you think cushioned vinyl would be suitable, I rather
>> fancy that option myself
>
>It covers the lot with no joins, and is easy to clean, and feels warm.


Yes, prettier patterns than cork tiles too.


>> I'd like to lay it under the toilet bowl and
>> the sink pedestal rather than cutting around them
>
>Hmm. Difficult. If it can be trimmed right, I would not do that.


I'm a glutton for punishment. :-)



>> but I'm not sure
>> about the bath. It's a small room and the bath, with a small box-like
>> extension added, takes up the whole of one wall. Do you think it would
>> be better to lay the vinyl under the entire bath area, or just stop at
>> the outer bath panel?
>
>If room, run it inder the panel and onto a thin batten.


Great idea!


>> I like the idea of turning up the edges of the vinyl and welding the
>> corners
>
>I don't think you can weld it - seal, yes.


It's not going to get that wet!



>> do you think it's feasible to turn the edges up in front of
>> the skirting, rather than behind it?
>
>Yes, on a fillet. I wouldn't turn it up over the skirting.


Thanks for the tips. I'm really making progress on this, if only in my
head. :-)

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On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 13:58:53 +0100, Matt 
wrote:


>"TheScullster"  wrote:
>
>>
>>> If you tile, the floor will be colder without underfloor heating.
>>
>>Seconded!
>>Tiled bathroom floors look trendy enough but are one of the worst examples 
>>of style over functionality you will see in this country!
>>Fine in the med, but not a UK residence with our temperature range.
>
>Regardless of the location you'll still fall flat on your arse once
>the tiles get wet.


Highly unlikely in my case. Flat wallet, flat head and flat libido for
sure. The arse has a distinct sagging curve to it though. :-)
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> "TheScullster"  wrote:
>
>>
>>> If you tile, the floor will be colder without underfloor heating.
>>
>>Seconded!
>>Tiled bathroom floors look trendy enough but are one of the worst examples
>>of style over functionality you will see in this country!
>>Fine in the med, but not a UK residence with our temperature range.
>
> Regardless of the location you'll still fall flat on your arse once
> the tiles get wet.


Not my experience. Each to his own, I suppose but I laid ceramic tiles in my
bathroom a couple of years ago. Suspended wooden floor covered with 18mm ply
and although the tiles are colder than the old carpet, they're nowhere near
as cold as they would be if laid on a concrete base. Non-slip surface, don't
mark or scuff and exceptionally easy to clean. Wouldn't have anything else
now.

John Miller

sm_jamieson@hotmail.com wrote:

> of screws, and use a flexible tile cement. Just don't use carpet ! I've
> just been to a house with the many-years old bathroom carpet lifted.
> Smells like a pub toilet.


That's a problem with the occupants' aim or hygene, not the carpet per
se.

MBQ

"John Miller"  wrote:

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>I laid ceramic tiles in my bathroom a couple of years ago. 

<snip>

>Non-slip surface


How's that achieved then?

A fresh layer of evostik?

Rubber suckers attached to your feet?

Magnetic levitation?

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