Thanks to Scotrail and there 1/2 price offer I have 8 hours in London this 
Saturday.
I must have my first trip on the DLR and I also intend to visit the Wembley 
building site.
How can I fill the rest of my time? Are there any cross London rail lines of 
interest to explore and would a Zone 1-6 Travelcard be the one to go for?

All suggestions appreciated.

Thanks,  KW.

Ken Ward wrote:


> How can I fill the rest of my time? Are there any cross London rail lines of 
> interest to explore and would a Zone 1-6 Travelcard be the one to go for?
> 


I would suggest a journey along the North London line from Stratford to Richmond 
(about 1 hour) and a journey on the Thameslink from Kings Cross to anywhere 
south of the river.

--

David

In news:sfEXe.15759$6p.15619@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net,
Ken Ward  typed:


> Thanks to Scotrail and there 1/2 price offer ...



Scotrail -proce offer??

I've been on holiday and missed any word of this.  Can't find any reference 
on their website either.  Can you give me some details please.



-- 
Bob

Bob Wood wrote:

>Scotrail -proce offer??
>
>I've been on holiday and missed any word of this.  Can't find any reference 
>on their website either.  Can you give me some details please.


See thread at <http://tinyurl.com/ae7bc>.


Neil Sunderland
-- 
Braunton, Devon
Please observe the Reply-To address.

NP: Ocean Colour Scene - The Day We Caught the Train (from the album 'Moseley Shoals')

In news:3a7ui11ouo0tqe71maoia2097nc9p7qfab@4ax.com,
Neil Sunderland  typed:


> Bob Wood wrote:
> > Scotrail -proce offer??
> >
> > I've been on holiday and missed any word of this.  Can't find any
> > reference on their website either.  Can you give me some details
> > please.
>
> See thread at <http://tinyurl.com/ae7bc>.



Many thanks to Neil for his speedy reply.  It looks as though I went oin 
holiday at just the wrong time!


-- 
Bob

On 19/9/05 8:24 pm, in article sfEXe.15759$6p.15619@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net,
"Ken Ward"  wrote:


> Thanks to Scotrail and there 1/2 price offer I have 8 hours in London this
> Saturday.
> I must have my first trip on the DLR and I also intend to visit the Wembley
> building site.
> How can I fill the rest of my time? Are there any cross London rail lines of
> interest to explore and would a Zone 1-6 Travelcard be the one to go for?
> 
> All suggestions appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,  KW.
> 
> 


Not rail related, but how about taking your last chance to ride on a
Routemaster bus in normal service?  The 38 still runs them from Victoria
Station to Clapton Pond.

In news:BF54DFAE.D8C0%aooh11@dsl.pipex.com,
Stephen Furley  typed:


> On 19/9/05 8:24 pm, in article
> sfEXe.15759$6p.15619@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net, "Ken Ward"
>  wrote:
>
> > Thanks to Scotrail and there 1/2 price offer I have 8 hours in
> > London this Saturday.
> > I must have my first trip on the DLR and I also intend to visit the
> > Wembley building site.
> > How can I fill the rest of my time? Are there any cross London rail
> > lines of interest to explore and would a Zone 1-6 Travelcard be the
> > one to go for?
> >
> > All suggestions appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,  KW.
> >
> >
>
> Not rail related, but how about taking your last chance to ride on a
> Routemaster bus in normal service?  The 38 still runs them from
> Victoria Station to Clapton Pond.


The 13 is still RM as well  -  and possibly the 159.

-- 
Bob

"David Morgan"  wrote in
message news:432f1a56$0$1296$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...

> Ken Ward wrote:
>
> > How can I fill the rest of my time? Are there any cross London rail
lines of
> > interest to explore and would a Zone 1-6 Travelcard be the one to go
for?
> >
>
> I would suggest a journey along the North London line from Stratford to
Richmond
> (about 1 hour) and a journey on the Thameslink from Kings Cross to
anywhere
> south of the river.
>

An ODTC would be appropriate. If you travel on Thameslink, go to Wimbledon,
Mitcham Junction, or East Croydon, then take a trip on Tramlink. The Jubilee
Line Extension (Westminster - Stratford) is worth a visit for the
architecture (and scale) of the stations.

Peter

David Morgan wrote:

> Ken Ward wrote:
> 
>> How can I fill the rest of my time? Are there any cross London rail 
>> lines of interest to explore and would a Zone 1-6 Travelcard be the 
>> one to go for?
>>
> 
> I would suggest a journey along the North London line from Stratford to 
> Richmond (about 1 hour) and a journey on the Thameslink from Kings Cross 
> to anywhere south of the river.
> 


If you are doing the DLR, a quick diversion onto the East London tube is 
worth it just to go through Brunel's tunnel 
(http://www.davros.org/rail/culg/eastlondon.html) and the LT Museum at 
Covent Garden is always worth a visit (http://www.ltmuseum.co.uk/)

Ken Ward wrote:

> Thanks to Scotrail and there 1/2 price offer I have 8 hours in London this 
> Saturday.
> I must have my first trip on the DLR and I also intend to visit the Wembley 
> building site.
> How can I fill the rest of my time? Are there any cross London rail lines of 
> interest to explore and would a Zone 1-6 Travelcard be the one to go for?


As another poster has said, the NLL is good, and whilst you're on the 
NLL/Jubilee line you might like to visit platforms 9 / 10 at Stratford, 
which is good for freight, plus the units and 90s on Anglia/GE services.
-- 
Joe Patrick
Railways Online - for GB railway news, information & photos
http://www.railwaysonline.co.uk

On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 19:24:08 GMT, "Ken Ward" 
wrote:


>Thanks to Scotrail and there 1/2 price offer I have 8 hours in London this 
>Saturday.
>I must have my first trip on the DLR and I also intend to visit the Wembley 
>building site.
>How can I fill the rest of my time? Are there any cross London rail lines of 
>interest to explore and would a Zone 1-6 Travelcard be the one to go for?
>
>All suggestions appreciated.
>

Can you break the journey at Birmingham ? They've got a hole in the
ground that's actually useful.
-- 
                                                             _______
 +---------------------------------------------------+      |\\   //|
 | Charles Ellson: charles@e11son.demon.co.uk        |      | \\ // |
 +---------------------------------------------------+      |  > <  |
                                                            | // \\ |
                                              Alba gu brath |//___\\|

Ken Ward  wrote:

> Thanks to Scotrail and there 1/2 price offer I have 8 hours in London this 
> Saturday.
> I must have my first trip on the DLR and I also intend to visit the Wembley 
> building site.
> How can I fill the rest of my time? Are there any cross London rail lines of 
> interest to explore and would a Zone 1-6 Travelcard be the one to go for?
> 


DLR's a must if you haven't done it.

Worth going to have a look at Stratford just to see the scale of
development there. It's as good a place as any to get onto the NLL, too
(the NLL giving quite a good view of the CTRL works near KX/StP too).

I'd say a Tube trip out to Gants Hill for the Moscow Concourse is a must,
too. (Not far from Stratford).

These days I find the 3rd rail stuff Saaaaf of the Rivvah most
interesting, some of the strange vistas of semi-dereliction you see are
disconcerting!

pete
-- 
pete@fenelon.com "Obviously crime pays, or there'd be no crime"-G Gordon Liddy

On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 21:06:55 +0100, David Morgan
 wrote:


>I would suggest a journey along the North London line from Stratford to Richmond 
>(about 1 hour)


You might want to do the Stratford to North Woolwich section as well,
as it's going to close in a few years.


>and a journey on the Thameslink from Kings Cross to anywhere 
>south of the river.


If you do, make sure you travel at the front of the train - you'll see
what I mean when you get to Blackfriars.

Bob Wood wrote:

> In news:BF54DFAE.D8C0%aooh11@dsl.pipex.com,
> Stephen Furley  typed:
> >
> > Not rail related, but how about taking your last chance to ride on a
> > Routemaster bus in normal service?  The 38 still runs them from
> > Victoria Station to Clapton Pond.
>
> The 13 is still RM as well  -  and possibly the 159.



Last days on these routes are as follows:

13   - 21st October 2005

38   - 28th October 2005

159  - 9th December 2005


Much more information on the Routemaster Association website at:
http://www.routemaster.org.uk/

In message <432f1a56$0$1296$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net>, at 
21:06:55 on Mon, 19 Sep 2005, David Morgan 
 remarked:

>a journey on the Thameslink from Kings Cross to anywhere south of the 
>river.


Why not from West Hampstead for the full experience. Once at London 
Bridge get a train back to Charing Cross.
-- 
Roland Perry

Pete Fenelon wrote:

> Ken Ward  wrote:
> > Thanks to Scotrail and there 1/2 price offer I have 8 hours in London this
> > Saturday.
> > I must have my first trip on the DLR and I also intend to visit the Wembley
> > building site.
> > How can I fill the rest of my time? Are there any cross London rail lines of
> > interest to explore and would a Zone 1-6 Travelcard be the one to go for?
> >
>
> DLR's a must if you haven't done it.
>
> Worth going to have a look at Stratford just to see the scale of
> development there. It's as good a place as any to get onto the NLL, too
> (the NLL giving quite a good view of the CTRL works near KX/StP too).
>
> I'd say a Tube trip out to Gants Hill for the Moscow Concourse is a must,
> too. (Not far from Stratford).
>
> These days I find the 3rd rail stuff Saaaaf of the Rivvah most
> interesting, some of the strange vistas of semi-dereliction you see are
> disconcerting!



If doing South of the River, Victoria to London Bridge takes in
Battersea Power Station, Millwall stadium and across lots of different
lines heading south.  Quite interesting.  Or cut across to Lewisham to
get on your way to the DLR.

"Charles Ellson"  wrote in message 
news:6rdui11l4j4d6lg5fbub3cpdrp4j27fda9@4ax.com...

> On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 19:24:08 GMT, "Ken Ward" 
> wrote:
>
>>Thanks to Scotrail and there 1/2 price offer I have 8 hours in London this
>>Saturday.
>>I must have my first trip on the DLR and I also intend to visit the 
>>Wembley
>>building site.
>>How can I fill the rest of my time? Are there any cross London rail lines 
>>of
>>interest to explore and would a Zone 1-6 Travelcard be the one to go for?
>>
>>All suggestions appreciated.
>>
> Can you break the journey at Birmingham ? They've got a hole in the
> ground that's actually useful.


I did that two weeks ago on my "ScotRail" 1/2 price Wigan to Lymington 
single.

KW

"MIG"  wrote in message 
news:1127207911.709221.49760@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

>
> Pete Fenelon wrote:
>> Ken Ward  wrote:
>> > Thanks to Scotrail and there 1/2 price offer I have 8 hours in London 
>> > this
>> > Saturday.
>> > I must have my first trip on the DLR and I also intend to visit the 
>> > Wembley
>> > building site.
>> > How can I fill the rest of my time? Are there any cross London rail 
>> > lines of
>> > interest to explore and would a Zone 1-6 Travelcard be the one to go 
>> > for?


Etc....................

Thanks to everyone who has replied, maybe I should be going for a WEEK!

I think Wembley has been crossed of the list to make room for more pressing 
sights.

Routemasters, NLL, DLR, Thameslink etc. I hope I can get most of them in, I 
will enjoy trying.

Any other suggestions welcome.

Thanks All,  KW.  Bolton.

Chessington South, the lovely SR art deco station.
"Ken Ward"  wrote in message
news:sfEXe.15759$6p.15619@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...

> Thanks to Scotrail and there 1/2 price offer I have 8 hours in London this
> Saturday.
> I must have my first trip on the DLR and I also intend to visit the
Wembley
> building site.
> How can I fill the rest of my time? Are there any cross London rail lines
of
> interest to explore and would a Zone 1-6 Travelcard be the one to go for?
>
> All suggestions appreciated.
>
> Thanks,  KW.
>
>

In article <432f1a56$0$1296$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net>, David
Morgan  writes

>Ken Ward wrote:
>
>> How can I fill the rest of my time? Are there any cross London rail lines of 
>> interest to explore and would a Zone 1-6 Travelcard be the one to go for?
>> 
>
>I would suggest a journey along the North London line from Stratford to Richmond 
>(about 1 hour) and a journey on the Thameslink from Kings Cross to anywhere 
>south of the river.
>
>--
>
>David

Various options depends on what is your particular interest 
How about the Croydon Tram system all is covered by a London Travelcard

-- 
Alan

"Alan Osborn"  wrote in message 
news:AZ$$rAAE0yLDFwOb@burwellmdw.demon.co.uk...

> In article <432f1a56$0$1296$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net>, David
> Morgan  writes
>>Ken Ward wrote:
>>
>>> How can I fill the rest of my time? Are there any cross London rail 
>>> lines of
>>> interest to explore and would a Zone 1-6 Travelcard be the one to go 
>>> for?
>>>
>>
>>I would suggest a journey along the North London line from Stratford to 
>>Richmond
>>(about 1 hour) and a journey on the Thameslink from Kings Cross to 
>>anywhere
>>south of the river.
>>
>>--
>>
>>David
> Various options depends on what is your particular interest
> How about the Croydon Tram system all is covered by a London Travelcard


It does indeed interest, I have only seen them when delivering to Croydon in 
my "White" van some years ago.

KW

I quite enjoyed the Metropolitan main line starting from Aldgate
through to the Chesham branch. You can return on Chiltern to
Marylebone. There's also Gospel Oak to Barking.

Clapham Junction is also worth a visit. Outward from Charing Cross
(taking in Hungerford Bridge) changing at Waterloo East then return to
Victoria.

If you are going to do the Docklands don't forget the Jubilee line
extension either.

Takes me back to my first visit to London with a school friend. Early
train from Birmingham (E3004) at not much slower than today. I remember
we chose that train for the novelty of the Hampton-in-Arden stop (no
NEC then).

Kings Cross for the Deltics arriving at York Rd station via Finsbury
Pk. Then across to Paddington for Westerns, Warships and Hymeks.
Liverpool St with only 37s and 31s to offer was considered as something
of an anti-climax and St Pancras (Peaks only) positively boring and to
think that we hardly noticed all those heritage DMUs.

Came home on the Emerald Isle express non-stop to Coventry in mk1
compartment stock.

"allan tracy"  wrote in message 
news:1127235600.444900.322590@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...

>I quite enjoyed the Metropolitan main line starting from Aldgate
> through to the Chesham branch. You can return on Chiltern to
> Marylebone. There's also Gospel Oak to Barking.
>
> Clapham Junction is also worth a visit. Outward from Charing Cross
> (taking in Hungerford Bridge) changing at Waterloo East then return to
> Victoria.
>
> If you are going to do the Docklands don't forget the Jubilee line
> extension either.
>
> Takes me back to my first visit to London with a school friend. Early
> train from Birmingham (E3004) at not much slower than today. I remember
> we chose that train for the novelty of the Hampton-in-Arden stop (no
> NEC then).
>
> Kings Cross for the Deltics arriving at York Rd station via Finsbury
> Pk. Then across to Paddington for Westerns, Warships and Hymeks.
> Liverpool St with only 37s and 31s to offer was considered as something
> of an anti-climax and St Pancras (Peaks only) positively boring and to
> think that we hardly noticed all those heritage DMUs.
>
> Came home on the Emerald Isle express non-stop to Coventry in mk1
> compartment stock.


Well Alan,
        I am looking forward to it but I'm sure it won't be as interesting 
as your visit.

Thanks,  KW.

Ken Ward wrote:


> I think Wembley has been crossed of the list to make room for more pressing 
> sights.
> 


Ken, I think you should still take a look at Wembley for no better reason than 
it's so easy t see from a train. Go from Marylebone on any service that calls at 
  South or West Ruislip and look to your right approaching (not surprisingly) 
Wembley Stadium to get a good view of the coustruction. It's only a few minutes 
travel and you can either come back the same way or get a Central line train 
back from one of the Ruislips.

You also get to visit Marylebone which IMHO is London's nicest terminus. Have a 
drink in the V&A station pub at the same time.

-- 

David

"David Morgan"  wrote in 
message news:4330697b$0$22904$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net...

> Ken Ward wrote:
>
>> I think Wembley has been crossed of the list to make room for more 
>> pressing sights.
>>
>
> Ken, I think you should still take a look at Wembley for no better reason 
> than it's so easy t see from a train. Go from Marylebone on any service 
> that calls at South or West Ruislip and look to your right approaching 
> (not surprisingly) Wembley Stadium to get a good view of the coustruction. 
> It's only a few minutes travel and you can either come back the same way 
> or get a Central line train back from one of the Ruislips.
>
> You also get to visit Marylebone which IMHO is London's nicest terminus. 
> Have a drink in the V&A station pub at the same time.


Thanks David,
        I will do that as the last time I visited Marylebone was in 1965 
after travelling overnight from  Manchester London Road .

KW

"Ken Ward"  wrote in message
news:Gz_Xe.29367$Aa1.14725@newsfe5-gui.ntli.net...

>
> > You also get to visit Marylebone which IMHO is London's nicest terminus.
> > Have a drink in the V&A station pub at the same time.
>
> Thanks David,
>         I will do that as the last time I visited Marylebone was in 1965
> after travelling overnight from  Manchester London Road .


I wish I could do that! :)


-- 
Ronnie
--
Have a great day...
....Have a Great Central day.
www.greatcentralrailway.com

"Ronnie Clark"  
wrote in message news:dgpsis$sgo$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...

>
> "Ken Ward"  wrote in message
> news:Gz_Xe.29367$Aa1.14725@newsfe5-gui.ntli.net...
>>
>> > You also get to visit Marylebone which IMHO is London's nicest 
>> > terminus.
>> > Have a drink in the V&A station pub at the same time.
>>
>> Thanks David,
>>         I will do that as the last time I visited Marylebone was in 1965
>> after travelling overnight from  Manchester London Road .
>
> I wish I could do that! :)


Yes Ronnie went past your patch on the way. Later we caught the Boat train 
from Waterloo to Weymouth (through the streets) to the Dock. Destination 
Guernsey where the cigarettes were Half a Crown in the machine to get 20 and 
a Threpenny bit change!

Not to mention the trip through the home of the S******* R****** beforew 
Sheffield Victoria.

Funny, I can't remember where I went yesterday................   KW.

"David Morgan"  wrote in
message news:432f1a56$0$1296$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...

> Ken Ward wrote:
>
> > How can I fill the rest of my time? Are there any cross
> > London rail lines of interest to explore and would a
> > Zone 1-6 Travelcard be the one to go for?
>
> I would suggest a journey along the North London line
> from Stratford to Richmond (about 1 hour)


Good God, what for? I can't think of a more depressing way to spend an
hour...


> and a journey on the Thameslink from
> Kings Cross to anywhere south of the river.


.... apart from that!

-- 
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/7069/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes

John Rowland wrote:


> Good God, what for? I can't think of a more depressing way to spend an
> hour...
> 

Each to their own. Admittedly it's quite a few years since I last went on the 
NLL but I found it interesting at the time because it was a lightly used line in 
  an otherwise very busy London rail network and it took me through areas a 
visitor wouldn't normally travel. Maybe it's changed a lot since then(late 1980s)


> 
> ... apart from that!
> 


I think a visitor to London would find a trip from somewhere like Kings Cross, 
over the Thames to one of the stations south of the river (or back the other 
way) quite an interesting experience.

-- 

David

On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 20:55:09 +0100, David Morgan
 wrote:


>Each to their own. Admittedly it's quite a few years since I last went on the 
>NLL but I found it interesting at the time because it was a lightly used line in 
>  an otherwise very busy London rail network and it took me through areas a 
>visitor wouldn't normally travel. Maybe it's changed a lot since then(late 1980s)
>


I wouldn't think of the NLL as lightly used these days :-)

Passenger trains 4tph, and quite busy when I've used them. Also quite
a lot of freight if that's of interest. Some people may find the mix
of electrification quite interesting as well.