Career wise I've decided to move into the area of "odd job man". Doing 
anything and everything, such as fitting kitchens, bathrooms, etc.

Obviously this might involve some electrical work, which although I know I'm 
capable of doing "correctly", I might however not be doing as per a 
"qualified electrician" and per today's "upto date regs".

I've had a quick gander at this new Part P thingy-ma-bob and I'm already 
confused, so basically, If I want to do the odd bit of electrical work which 
will fully comply with all new and updated regs, what courses, exams, etc do 
I need to take.

My local college were very vague when I asked them this question, and I've a 
feeling they want me to go on any course they've trouble filling. 
Consequently they've told me a place is available on a PEO Electrical Level 
2 (nvq2) 2 year part-time evening course. However they are also running a 2 
week intensive Part P course for the princely sum of 700. Should I go on 
this one?

I've also had a look at the NICEIC website and they seem to offer a 
multitude of different courses, and I don't feel as if I'd get impartial 
advice from them either.

Any advice greatly appreciated.

Jon

jon wrote:

> Career wise I've decided to move into the area of "odd job man".
> Doing anything and everything, such as fitting kitchens,
> bathrooms, etc.

> My local college were very vague when I asked them this question,
> and I've a feeling they want me to go on any course they've
> trouble filling. Consequently they've told me a place is
> available on a PEO Electrical Level 2 (nvq2) 2 year part-time
> evening course. However they are also running a 2 week intensive
> Part P course for the princely sum of 700. Should I go on this
> one?


IMHO, option 2.   You'll be a much more marketable odd-job man if you've got 
a Part P ticket, so why wait 2 years?

"Steve Walker"  wrote in message 
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> jon wrote:
>> Career wise I've decided to move into the area of "odd job man".
>> Doing anything and everything, such as fitting kitchens,
>> bathrooms, etc.
>
>> My local college were very vague when I asked them this question,
>> and I've a feeling they want me to go on any course they've
>> trouble filling. Consequently they've told me a place is
>> available on a PEO Electrical Level 2 (nvq2) 2 year part-time
>> evening course. However they are also running a 2 week intensive
>> Part P course for the princely sum of 700. Should I go on this
>> one?
>
> IMHO, option 2.   You'll be a much more marketable odd-job man if you've 
> got a Part P ticket, so why wait 2 years?
>

Take care. I was about to start a 'PartP' course and posted a couple of 
weeks
to ask how much people thought was reasonable charge for testing. Dark Angel
told me:

"Ummm, you do realise that even if you're qualified you've still got to be a
member of an approved "self-certification" (Part P) scheme? Which will cost
you somewhere in the region of 2000 pa to belong to, and before you can
join have to have been trading for 2 years. Which creates a bit of a
"chicken and egg" situation."

He saved me 370 ukp. I confirmed with the college that I had applied to
that what he said was correct and cancelled.


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>
> "Steve Walker"  wrote in message 
> news:3ot74eF7i7prU1@individual.net...
>> jon wrote:
>>> Career wise I've decided to move into the area of "odd job man".
>>> Doing anything and everything, such as fitting kitchens,
>>> bathrooms, etc.
>>
>>> My local college were very vague when I asked them this question,
>>> and I've a feeling they want me to go on any course they've
>>> trouble filling. Consequently they've told me a place is
>>> available on a PEO Electrical Level 2 (nvq2) 2 year part-time
>>> evening course. However they are also running a 2 week intensive
>>> Part P course for the princely sum of 700. Should I go on this
>>> one?
>>
>> IMHO, option 2.   You'll be a much more marketable odd-job man if you've 
>> got a Part P ticket, so why wait 2 years?
>>
> Take care. I was about to start a 'PartP' course and posted a couple of 
> weeks
> to ask how much people thought was reasonable charge for testing. Dark 
> Angel
> told me:
>
> "Ummm, you do realise that even if you're qualified you've still got to be 
> a
> member of an approved "self-certification" (Part P) scheme? Which will 
> cost
> you somewhere in the region of 2000 pa to belong to, and before you can
> join have to have been trading for 2 years. Which creates a bit of a
> "chicken and egg" situation."
>
> He saved me 370 ukp. I confirmed with the college that I had applied to
> that what he said was correct and cancelled.
>

This is the problem I'm having, no one seems to know what the answer is, 
each body, college or individual, each has their own opinion on what course 
or qualification to get. There doesn't seem to be a definative route or 
answer (there probably is, except the people in the know aren't saying, for 
some reason).

So you are saying that Part P is a good standard/qualification, but it means 
nothing unless I register myself/it with the releavnt body and this will 
cost me over 2000 pa.

Jon

jon wrote:

> So you are saying that Part P is a good standard/qualification, but it means 
> nothing unless I register myself/it with the releavnt body and this will 
> cost me over 2000 pa.


This is the point - you can only sign yourself off if you are a member 
of a body, and as you say they will all charge you a small fortune to join

On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 16:06:17 UTC, Richard Conway  wrote:


> jon wrote:
> > So you are saying that Part P is a good standard/qualification, but it means 
> > nothing unless I register myself/it with the releavnt body and this will 
> > cost me over 2000 pa.
> 
> This is the point - you can only sign yourself off if you are a member 
> of a body, and as you say they will all charge you a small fortune to join


What's the latest on the IEE '8 goes a year' stuff?
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jon wrote:
|| Career wise I've decided to move into the area of "odd job man".
|| Doing anything and everything, such as fitting kitchens, bathrooms,
|| etc.
||
|| Obviously this might involve some electrical work, which although I
|| know I'm capable of doing "correctly", I might however not be doing
|| as per a "qualified electrician" and per today's "upto date regs".

Hi Jon
There is a certain amouint of work you can do without worrying about part P 
and it's this very work that a handyman should be looking for IMO.

To earn a decent crust as a handyman you need to specialise in those small 
jobs where you can charge a high fee for the first half hour or so - 30 or 
so seems average.  If you get involved in bigger jobs your rate will have to 
drop to an hourly one which will have to be much lower.

Four half hour jobs per day, two of which extend into the second half hour 
at extra cost will earn you more that a daily rate.

Check out a few handyman web sites & check how they operate.

JMO

Dave




||
|| I've had a quick gander at this new Part P thingy-ma-bob and I'm
|| already confused, so basically, If I want to do the odd bit of
|| electrical work which will fully comply with all new and updated
|| regs, what courses, exams, etc do I need to take.
||
|| My local college were very vague when I asked them this question,
|| and I've a feeling they want me to go on any course they've trouble
|| filling. Consequently they've told me a place is available on a PEO
|| Electrical Level 2 (nvq2) 2 year part-time evening course. However
|| they are also running a 2 week intensive Part P course for the
|| princely sum of 700. Should I go on this one?
||
|| I've also had a look at the NICEIC website and they seem to offer a
|| multitude of different courses, and I don't feel as if I'd get
|| impartial advice from them either.
||
|| Any advice greatly appreciated.
||
|| Jon

On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 11:00:33 GMT, "jon"  scrawled:


>Any advice greatly appreciated.
>

Well, it lost me completely so I gave up altogether and I now just
ring my NICEIC registered mate when some says "certificate". 

I did toy with the idea of joining NAPIT as I've heard good reports
about their expectations of you, down to earthness and pricing being a
touch more sane than the NICEIC, but I never made the final push to
actually join.......
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Lurch wrote:

> Well, it lost me completely so I gave up altogether and I now just
> ring my NICEIC registered mate when some says "certificate". 


I suppose most electricians have little need of a Part-P compliant 
scheme. It doesn't apply to industrial installations and doesn't apply 
to wiring in new build dwellings which would be covered by the Building 
Control application for the building?

Owain