My requirement for extra low voltage (12VAC) garden cabling is as
follows:

Cores: 2 (red and black, or similar but not blue and brown), flexible.
Rating: 6A (max) @ 12V AC
Conductor resistance: 0.012 ohms per metre max.
Sheath: Suitable for outdoor use (e.g. polyethylene, rubber?)

Pro-Power manufacture a speaker cable (http://tinyurl.com/a96zr) which
is 62p/metre and has the right electrical ratings. However, it has a
PVC sheath which might not take too kindly to puddles (being
hygroscopic) or UV.

Can anyone kindly suggest an alternative source, please?

On 14 Sep 2005 16:49:41 -0700, denbigh1974@boltblue.com scrawled:


>My requirement for extra low voltage (12VAC) garden cabling is as
>follows:
>
>Cores: 2 (red and black, or similar but not blue and brown), flexible.
>Rating: 6A (max) @ 12V AC
>Conductor resistance: 0.012 ohms per metre max.
>Sheath: Suitable for outdoor use (e.g. polyethylene, rubber?)
>

OOI, where did all these very exact raqndom specifications come from?


>Pro-Power manufacture a speaker cable (http://tinyurl.com/a96zr) which
>is 62p/metre and has the right electrical ratings. However, it has a
>PVC sheath which might not take too kindly to puddles (being
>hygroscopic) or UV.
>

Well, anything 12V at my house is sort of lashed in with anything
conductive. I am a fully qualified and time served electrical
contractor though!


>Can anyone kindly suggest an alternative source, please?


Local electrical wholesaler. Depending on the exact application then
either some UV stabilised flexible cables or any cable of the correct
CSA run in conduit would do the job. 
-- 
Stuart @ SJW Electrical

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Lurch wrote:

>
> OOI, where did all these very exact raqndom specifications come from?


I invented them. Started with the premise that garden lighting cable
should be identifiable, weatherproof and low resistance.


>
> Local electrical wholesaler. Depending on the exact application then
> either some UV stabilised flexible cables or any cable of the correct
> CSA run in conduit would do the job.


My wholesalers (WF Electrical and Edmundson Electrical) just boggle
when I say UV-stabilised. Some rubber-sheathed flex with the old
non-harmonised colours would be good if I could get it in 4mm²

denbigh1974 wrote:

> Pro-Power manufacture a speaker cable (http://tinyurl.com/a96zr) which
> is 62p/metre and has the right electrical ratings. However, it has a
> PVC sheath which might not take too kindly to puddles (being
> hygroscopic)


Really? I had no idea.

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> My requirement for extra low voltage (12VAC) garden cabling is as
> follows:
>
> Cores: 2 (red and black, or similar but not blue and brown), flexible.
> Rating: 6A (max) @ 12V AC
> Conductor resistance: 0.012 ohms per metre max.
> Sheath: Suitable for outdoor use (e.g. polyethylene, rubber?)


No one told you red and black is obsolete and getting hold of it nowadays is 
like finding hens teeth?

>
> Pro-Power manufacture a speaker cable (http://tinyurl.com/a96zr) which
> is 62p/metre and has the right electrical ratings. However, it has a
> PVC sheath which might not take too kindly to puddles (being
> hygroscopic) or UV.


Where did you get the bit about PVC being hygroscopic? Perhaps we should 
tell all the big cable manufacturers to stop using it for all the miles of 
cable which is in use underground all over the world. UV isn't normally a 
problem for colours other than translucent or very pale shades. Black is to 
be preferred.

>
> Can anyone kindly suggest an alternative source, please?
>


I'd suggest you go ahead with what you have found. Enclose in a protective 
tube if you arent convinced its mechanically strong enough

denbigh1974@boltblue.com wrote:


> Can anyone kindly suggest an alternative source, please?


http://tinyurl.com/bk4pa (part A1TW004BK)
or
http://tinyurl.com/ax8z2 (part 838833)

On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 16:25:54 +0000 (UTC), "John"
 wrote:


>
> wrote in message 
>news:1126741781.674955.229570@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>> My requirement for extra low voltage (12VAC) garden cabling is as
>> follows:
>>
>> Cores: 2 (red and black, or similar but not blue and brown), flexible.
>> Rating: 6A (max) @ 12V AC
>> Conductor resistance: 0.012 ohms per metre max.
>> Sheath: Suitable for outdoor use (e.g. polyethylene, rubber?)
>
>No one told you red and black is obsolete and getting hold of it nowadays is 
>like finding hens teeth?
>>
>> Pro-Power manufacture a speaker cable (http://tinyurl.com/a96zr) which
>> is 62p/metre and has the right electrical ratings. However, it has a
>> PVC sheath which might not take too kindly to puddles (being
>> hygroscopic) or UV.
>
>Where did you get the bit about PVC being hygroscopic? Perhaps we should 
>tell all the big cable manufacturers to stop using it for all the miles of 
>cable which is in use underground all over the world. UV isn't normally a 
>problem for colours other than translucent or very pale shades. Black is to 
>be preferred.
>>

ITYF that most underground cable is sheathed with polyethylene.

-- 
Frank Erskine

On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 16:25:54 +0000, John wrote:


> 

> No one told you red and black is obsolete and getting hold of it nowadays is 
> like finding hens teeth?


Only for mains 240V, he is using 12Volts. Black and red still used in cars
etc for 12 volts.

Dave

On 15 Sep 2005 01:10:52 -0700, denbigh1974@boltblue.com scrawled:


>My wholesalers (WF Electrical and Edmundson Electrical) just boggle
>when I say UV-stabilised. Some rubber-sheathed flex with the old
>non-harmonised colours would be good if I could get it in 4mm


Oddly enough I had the same respomse today when I asked for some UV
stabilised flex to wire a replacememt float switch in a garden bowser
with. I got told they have "some rubbery sort of stuff", which may or
may not have been the stuff so I skipped that one. 

CPC might be worth a look?
-- 
Stuart @ SJW Electrical

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"Frank Erskine"  wrote in message 
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> On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 16:25:54 +0000 (UTC), "John"
>  wrote:
>
>>
>> wrote in message
>>news:1126741781.674955.229570@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>>> My requirement for extra low voltage (12VAC) garden cabling is as
>>> follows:
>>>
>>> Cores: 2 (red and black, or similar but not blue and brown), flexible.
>>> Rating: 6A (max) @ 12V AC
>>> Conductor resistance: 0.012 ohms per metre max.
>>> Sheath: Suitable for outdoor use (e.g. polyethylene, rubber?)
>>
>>No one told you red and black is obsolete and getting hold of it nowadays 
>>is
>>like finding hens teeth?
>>>
>>> Pro-Power manufacture a speaker cable (http://tinyurl.com/a96zr) which
>>> is 62p/metre and has the right electrical ratings. However, it has a
>>> PVC sheath which might not take too kindly to puddles (being
>>> hygroscopic) or UV.
>>
>>Where did you get the bit about PVC being hygroscopic? Perhaps we should
>>tell all the big cable manufacturers to stop using it for all the miles of
>>cable which is in use underground all over the world. UV isn't normally a
>>problem for colours other than translucent or very pale shades. Black is 
>>to
>>be preferred.
>>>
> ITYF that most underground cable is sheathed with polyethylene.
>


Standard PVC armoured cable is designated as PVC/PVC/SWA/PVC - Doesn't make 
mention of anything other than PVC and Steel Wire Armouring on the 
conductors.

YMMV