Hi there, I hope someone can answer this question.

I'm going to be making the following journeys as part of a two day trip in
London and I would appreciate assistance with knowing how much each fare is
going to cost me. Please assume that on each day, I will be in possession of
a Zone 1-6 One Day Travelcard and all travel will be after 9:30AM. I am led
to believe that I can simply pay for the cost of the ticket from the Zone 6
boundary to the station in question.

Day 1:

Victoria to Greenhithe. This will be a return journey.

Day 2:

Liverpool Street to Chelmsford. This will be a single journey.

Thank you in advance for any help with my request.

"Michael Anazapela"  wrote in message 
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> Hi there, I hope someone can answer this question.
>
> I'm going to be making the following journeys as part of a two day 
> trip in
> London and I would appreciate assistance with knowing how much each 
> fare is
> going to cost me. Please assume that on each day, I will be in 
> possession of
> a Zone 1-6 One Day Travelcard and all travel will be after 9:30AM. I 
> am led
> to believe that I can simply pay for the cost of the ticket from the 
> Zone 6
> boundary to the station in question.
>
> Day 1:
>
> Victoria to Greenhithe. This will be a return journey.
>


You'd be better off going from Charing Cross or London Bridge, as they 
have direct trains to Greenhithe. Is there any particular reason for 
you going from Victoria ?

Not sure on what the actual fare from BZ6 to Greenhithe is, but 
Crayford (last station inside zone 6 I believe) to Greenhithe is 2.50 
cheap day return, so I expect it'll be a little less than that.


> Day 2:
>
> Liverpool Street to Chelmsford. This will be a single journey.
>
> Thank you in advance for any help with my request.
>
> 

"Matt Wheeler"  wrote

> Not sure on what the actual fare from BZ6 to Greenhithe is, but
> Crayford (last station inside zone 6 I believe) to Greenhithe is 2.50
> cheap day return, so I expect it'll be a little less than that.


Sometimes the fare from BZ6 to an outboundary station is *more* than the
fare from the last station inside zone 6 - see previous threads e.g. re East
Croydon to South coast stations.  Not necessarily the case for Greenhithe,
though.

Michael Anazapela wrote:

> Hi there, I hope someone can answer this question.
>
> I'm going to be making the following journeys as part of a two day trip in
> London and I would appreciate assistance with knowing how much each fare is
> going to cost me. Please assume that on each day, I will be in possession of
> a Zone 1-6 One Day Travelcard and all travel will be after 9:30AM. I am led
> to believe that I can simply pay for the cost of the ticket from the Zone 6
> boundary to the station in question.
>
> Day 1:
>
> Victoria to Greenhithe. This will be a return journey.
>
> Day 2:
>
> Liverpool Street to Chelmsford. This will be a single journey.
>
> Thank you in advance for any help with my request.



Best thing is to phone NR enquiries and ask them to see what fare pops
up, because there probably isn't a standard formula.  I have a feeling
that maximising the travelcard and minimising the return journey beyond
the zones usually works out cheaper (ie, if returning to Central
London, better to get zone 1 - 6 plus return to Greenhithe than get
zone 1 - 2 plus return from boundary zone 2 to Greenhithe).

In the case of Greenhithe, the advantage of an extension from the
travelcard zone is that you have a choice of return routes, as opposed
to getting a return from eg Barnehurst.  Going from Victoria and
changing at Dartford is fine except late evenings or Sundays.

Boundary Zone 6 - Greenhithe £2.50 CDR
Boundary Zone 6 - Chelmsford £4.70 single.

HTH.

Matt Wheeler wrote:

> "Michael Anazapela"  wrote in message 
> news:432c73aa$0$1289$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
> 
>>Hi there, I hope someone can answer this question.
>>
>>I'm going to be making the following journeys as part of a two day 
>>trip in
>>London and I would appreciate assistance with knowing how much each 
>>fare is
>>going to cost me. Please assume that on each day, I will be in 
>>possession of
>>a Zone 1-6 One Day Travelcard and all travel will be after 9:30AM. I 
>>am led
>>to believe that I can simply pay for the cost of the ticket from the 
>>Zone 6
>>boundary to the station in question.
>>
>>Day 1:
>>
>>Victoria to Greenhithe. This will be a return journey.
>>
> 
> 
> You'd be better off going from Charing Cross or London Bridge, as they 
> have direct trains to Greenhithe. Is there any particular reason for 
> you going from Victoria ?


Are there not 2 per hour Victoria - Dartford via Bexleyheath?  One of 
those and change at Dartford would do it, but it seems a bit of a long 
way round when there are faster direct trains from Charring X / Waterloo 
East / London Bridge.

Robin

"R.C. Payne"  wrote in message 
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> Matt Wheeler wrote:
>> "Michael Anazapela"  wrote in message 
>> news:432c73aa$0$1289$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
>>
>>>
>>>Day 1:
>>>
>>>Victoria to Greenhithe. This will be a return journey.
>>>
>>
>>
>> You'd be better off going from Charing Cross or London Bridge, as 
>> they have direct trains to Greenhithe. Is there any particular 
>> reason for you going from Victoria ?
>
> Are there not 2 per hour Victoria - Dartford via Bexleyheath?  One 
> of those and change at Dartford would do it, but it seems a bit of a 
> long way round when there are faster direct trains from Charring X / 
> Waterloo East / London Bridge.
>


There are, yes.
When I did a search on the national rail journey planner, however, it 
suggested to get the Circle/District line from Victoria to Charing 
Cross then get a train from there rather than getting a train to 
Dartford and changing. I'm not sure how well/badly the 
Victoria-Dartford train connects with those that serve Greenhithe 
(continuing to Gravesend and Gillingham).

Matt Wheeler wrote:

> "R.C. Payne"  wrote in message 
> news:dgm4ja$d5m$1@gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk...
> 
>>Matt Wheeler wrote:
>>
>>>"Michael Anazapela"  wrote in message 
>>>news:432c73aa$0$1289$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Day 1:
>>>>
>>>>Victoria to Greenhithe. This will be a return journey.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>You'd be better off going from Charing Cross or London Bridge, as 
>>>they have direct trains to Greenhithe. Is there any particular 
>>>reason for you going from Victoria ?
>>
>>Are there not 2 per hour Victoria - Dartford via Bexleyheath?  One 
>>of those and change at Dartford would do it, but it seems a bit of a 
>>long way round when there are faster direct trains from Charring X / 
>>Waterloo East / London Bridge.
>>
> 
> 
> There are, yes.
> When I did a search on the national rail journey planner, however, it 
> suggested to get the Circle/District line from Victoria to Charing 
> Cross then get a train from there rather than getting a train to 
> Dartford and changing. I'm not sure how well/badly the 
> Victoria-Dartford train connects with those that serve Greenhithe 
> (continuing to Gravesend and Gillingham). 


Indeed, but Victoria - Dartford (change) - Greenhithe is probably more 
luggage friendly than District Vic - Embankment, the Charring Cross - 
Greenhithe, as there are lifts at Dartford, and cross platform 
interchanges if you're lucky.

Robin