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71000 Duke Of Gloucester   
The Duke has expired again. 40145 is running l/e from Bury to run the return 
leg from York retimed to depart at 18:00 back to Lime Street. Go get it

40138
www.40138.fotopic.net
Date:Sat, 17 Sep 2005 14:28:07 +0100   Author:  

Re: 71000 Duke Of Gloucester   
"40138"  wrote in message 
news:dgh5l2$a84$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk...

> The Duke has expired again. 40145 is running l/e from Bury to run the 
> return leg from York retimed to depart at 18:00 back to Lime Street. Go 
> get it


I saw the ill fated outward leg leave Stalybridge behind an EWS 66. then DoG 
ran round it's support coach and left for ELR I presume.

KW
Date:Sat, 17 Sep 2005 17:56:15 GMT   Author:  

Re: 71000 Duke Of Gloucester   
"40138"  wrote


> The Duke has expired again.


Alleged to have insufficient water supply I believe.

John.
Date:Sun, 18 Sep 2005 11:46:14 +0100   Author:  

Re: 71000 Duke Of Gloucester   
In article <dgjghe$d6b$1@newsreaderg1.core.theplanet.net>, John Turner
<nospam@nospam.invalid> writes

>
>"40138"  wrote
>
>> The Duke has expired again.
>
>Alleged to have insufficient water supply I believe.
>
>John. 
>
>


How does that come about?....
-- 
Tony Sayer
Date:Sun, 18 Sep 2005 12:12:22 +0100   Author:  

Re: 71000 Duke Of Gloucester   
"tony sayer"  wrote in message 
news:0KweMXCWuULDFwpd@bancom.co.uk...

> In article <dgjghe$d6b$1@newsreaderg1.core.theplanet.net>, John Turner
> <nospam@nospam.invalid> writes
>>
>>"40138"  wrote
>>
>>> The Duke has expired again.
>>
>>Alleged to have insufficient water supply I believe.
>>
>>John.
>>
>>
>
> How does that come about?....
> -- 
> Tony Sayer
>


We were on it: It got to Manchester Victoria at a cracking pace, but then 
was less than lively up the bank to Miles Platting, with some people 
commenting that it didn't sound "right" and there was lots of black smoke. 
There was an announcement that it had got through 1000 gallons of water 
between Victoria and Staleybridge, due to  "a valve being stuck open." 
Whilst waiting for the relief 66 the Fire Brigade arived to top up the water 
so that it could limp home.
The return departure was delayed until 18:00 to give people a reasonable 
amount of time in York but the diesel got the train back to Lime Street only 
half an hour or so later than the scheduled time - very impressive 
performance and no serious signal checks.
Robert
Date:Sun, 18 Sep 2005 12:46:32 GMT   Author:  

Re: 71000 Duke Of Gloucester   
Maria Suttleworth wrote:

> The return departure was delayed until 18:00 to give people a reasonable
> amount of time in York but the diesel got the train back to Lime Street only
> half an hour or so later than the scheduled time - very impressive
> performance and no serious signal checks.
> Robert


I'll think you'll find it was more than half an hour EARLY into Lime
Street, and was was worth the dash across the Pennines to York to have
40145 back !
Date:18 Sep 2005 09:22:52 -0700   Author:  

Re: 71000 Duke Of Gloucester   

> We were on it: It got to Manchester Victoria at a cracking pace, but then
> was less than lively up the bank to Miles Platting, with some people 
> commenting that it didn't sound "right" and there was lots of black smoke. 
> There was an announcement that it had got through 1000 gallons of water 
> between Victoria and Staleybridge, due to  "a valve being stuck open." 
> Whilst waiting for the relief 66 the Fire Brigade arived to top up the 
> water so that it could limp home.
> The return departure was delayed until 18:00 to give people a reasonable 
> amount of time in York but the diesel got the train back to Lime Street 
> only half an hour or so later than the scheduled time - very impressive 
> performance and no serious signal checks.
> Robert


The delayed departure allowed people to get to York for the far more 
rateable 40145 which was called on at very short notice from the East Lancs 
Railway to haul the train back to Liverpool. Unfortuneately I was unable to 
go for the 40 but it did arrive about 25 EARLY not late back into Lime 
Street.

Who needs steam engines...........!

Tim

>
> 
Date:Sun, 18 Sep 2005 19:39:45 +0100   Author:  

Re: 71000 Duke Of Gloucester   
Tim Rogers wrote:

> Who needs steam engines...........!
>
> Tim


Perhaps the uninformed video filmers post Man Vic would have like it, a
few shocked faces down the line!!

Dave

http://www.daves-trains.fotopic.net/
Date:18 Sep 2005 11:54:42 -0700   Author: