Hello
I am fitting a new kitchen and need to move the fridge fuse switch
about 1ft to the left because of the cupboard that will have the
fridge/freezer in it. I have had look and there is not enough slack in
the wiring to do this...as expected.
What are my options?
The only thing I can think of, other than getting an electrician in,
is to get a junction box and wire from that to the switch??
Would this be ok? If so what ampage box do I need?

cheers
ST

"Crazzeee"  wrote in message 
news:1738i1locd74nkpgfg45jb046q49lbge73@4ax.com...

> Hello
> I am fitting a new kitchen and need to move the fridge fuse switch
> about 1ft to the left because of the cupboard that will have the
> fridge/freezer in it. I have had look and there is not enough slack in
> the wiring to do this...as expected.
> What are my options?
> The only thing I can think of, other than getting an electrician in,
> is to get a junction box and wire from that to the switch??
> Would this be ok? If so what ampage box do I need?
>
> cheers
> ST


Where is it fed from? Another socket I presume. Can you not just replace 
that run?

Junction box ok, but must not be sunk in the wall and covered in plaster!

On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 11:59:41 +0100, Crazzeee 
scrawled:


>The only thing I can think of, other than getting an electrician in,


Nah, do that. Sounds safest to me. 

You could get away with extending the wires from their current
position, but not with a junction box. The alternative would be to
pull the cables out of the wall completely and drop them down again in
the correct position, but without seeing where they run this may not
be feasible.
-- 
Stuart @ SJW Electrical

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On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 13:17:42 +0100, "Dave Jones"
 wrote:


>"Crazzeee"  wrote in message 
>news:1738i1locd74nkpgfg45jb046q49lbge73@4ax.com...
>> Hello
>> I am fitting a new kitchen and need to move the fridge fuse switch
>> about 1ft to the left because of the cupboard that will have the
>> fridge/freezer in it. I have had look and there is not enough slack in
>> the wiring to do this...as expected.
>> What are my options?
>> The only thing I can think of, other than getting an electrician in,
>> is to get a junction box and wire from that to the switch??
>> Would this be ok? If so what ampage box do I need?
>>
>> cheers
>> ST
>
>Where is it fed from? Another socket I presume. Can you not just replace 
>that run?
>

No idea where it comes from...above i.e. upstairs, bathroom
direction??? It feeds the socket for the fridge (fused) and another
double plug socket


>Junction box ok, but must not be sunk in the wall and covered in plaster! 
>

I have put a junction box in for now, seems ok - obviously I had no
plans to plaster over it ;-)
it is behind the cupboard with the fridge in it so no need to hide it


thanks for the help

On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 13:32:33 +0100, Lurch 
wrote:


>On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 11:59:41 +0100, Crazzeee 
>scrawled:
>
>>The only thing I can think of, other than getting an electrician in,
>
>Nah, do that. Sounds safest to me. 
>
>You could get away with extending the wires from their current
>position, but not with a junction box. The alternative would be to
>pull the cables out of the wall completely and drop them down again in
>the correct position, but without seeing where they run this may not
>be feasible.

Probaly right but don't have the time or money for an electrician.

To pull the wires i guess i would have to lift the floor upstairs to
find the wires again short on time and not fancy lifting the
floor...not floor boards - some kind of sheets of wood.

Have put a junction box in - why is this not good?

thanks for the help
ST

In article ,
   Crazzeee  wrote:

> Have put a junction box in - why is this not good?


You can use a junction box provided it's accessible afterwards. Otherwise
you have to use a crimped connection.

-- 
*Tell me to 'stuff it' - I'm a taxidermist.

    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article , 
crazzeee@home.net says...

> On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 13:32:33 +0100, Lurch 
> wrote:
> 
> >On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 11:59:41 +0100, Crazzeee 
> >scrawled:
> >
> >>The only thing I can think of, other than getting an electrician in,
> >
> >Nah, do that. Sounds safest to me. 
> >
> >You could get away with extending the wires from their current
> >position, but not with a junction box. The alternative would be to
> >pull the cables out of the wall completely and drop them down again in
> >the correct position, but without seeing where they run this may not
> >be feasible.
> Probaly right but don't have the time or money for an electrician.
> 
> To pull the wires i guess i would have to lift the floor upstairs to
> find the wires again short on time and not fancy lifting the
> floor...not floor boards - some kind of sheets of wood.
> 
> Have put a junction box in - why is this not good?
> 

It's okay as long as it remains visible and accessible, and any wire 
runs from it are either horizontal or vertical.

On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 17:10:19 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
 wrote:


>In article ,
>   Crazzeee  wrote:
>> Have put a junction box in - why is this not good?
>
>You can use a junction box provided it's accessible afterwards. Otherwise
>you have to use a crimped connection.


ok - thanks

On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 17:18:51 +0100, Rob Morley 
wrote:


>In article , 
>crazzeee@home.net says...
>> On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 13:32:33 +0100, Lurch 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> >On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 11:59:41 +0100, Crazzeee 
>> >scrawled:
>> >
>> >>The only thing I can think of, other than getting an electrician in,
>> >
>> >Nah, do that. Sounds safest to me. 
>> >
>> >You could get away with extending the wires from their current
>> >position, but not with a junction box. The alternative would be to
>> >pull the cables out of the wall completely and drop them down again in
>> >the correct position, but without seeing where they run this may not
>> >be feasible.
>> Probaly right but don't have the time or money for an electrician.
>> 
>> To pull the wires i guess i would have to lift the floor upstairs to
>> find the wires again short on time and not fancy lifting the
>> floor...not floor boards - some kind of sheets of wood.
>> 
>> Have put a junction box in - why is this not good?
>> 
>It's okay as long as it remains visible and accessible, and any wire 
>runs from it are either horizontal or vertical.


thats what I've done - horizontal about 12inches away from the
junction box very visible 

thanks

neatest solution, IMHO: is to chase out the wall & put a new 13A flush
socket (coud be a double) at the new location (with a proper metal back
box) , run a 2.5mmsq cable to the old outlet plate (or is it a 13A
socket??).  Then replace the old socket with a connection unit plate
(these are ususally used to permanently connect external flexible leads
into the mains circuit).  This connection plate could be a 13A fused
connection unit if you have any doubts about where the ultimate
connection to the ring is made.  You aren't allowed more than one
socket (single or double on a spur unless the spur is fused..  Putting
in a FCU means you don't have to bother checking compliance with that
rule.

Alternatively if you have access to a cable crimping tool you could
crimp the cables in the old box to the new extension 2.5mmsq cable and
just insulate them & fit a cover plate, however if you do that you do
really need to establish that you aren't overloading the spur.

BTW if this is in your kitchen the part pee police should be notified.

HTH