I noticed a hammer drill offered for sale in Aldis today.  
 It has an SDS-type  tool chuck but describes itself as being a
pneumatic drill.
However, it is also electically powered.
Is anyone here familiar with this tool, and able to say how it
compares with a simple  electrically operated SDS drill ?

aam wrote:

> I noticed a hammer drill offered for sale in Aldis today.
>  It has an SDS-type  tool chuck but describes itself as being a
> pneumatic drill.
> However, it is also electically powered.
> Is anyone here familiar with this tool, and able to say how it
> compares with a simple  electrically operated SDS drill ?


YES it is a load of crap.

Bought one, took it back 3 days after purchase and got a refund, noticed 2
others had made a return with the drill.

aam wrote:

> I noticed a hammer drill offered for sale in Aldis today.
> It has an SDS-type  tool chuck but describes itself as being a
> pneumatic drill.
> However, it is also electically powered.
> Is anyone here familiar with this tool, and able to say how it
> compares with a simple  electrically operated SDS drill ?


Can't comment on the exact drill, but when it is described as 'pneumatic', 
that simply describes the way the bit is struck with the drills hammer.  All 
SDS type drills use a piston which drives a hammer using air pressure.

Dave

Thanks for your answer Ben,  
You've saved me wasted journeys and  aggravation. 
 


>On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 20:27:22 GMT, "ben"  wrote:

>aam wrote:
>> I noticed a hammer drill offered for sale in Aldis today.
>>  It has an SDS-type  tool chuck but describes itself as being a
>> pneumatic drill.
>> However, it is also electically powered.
>> Is anyone here familiar with this tool, and able to say how it
>> compares with a simple  electrically operated SDS drill ?
>
>YES it is a load of crap.
>
>Bought one, took it back 3 days after purchase and got a refund, noticed 2
>others had made a return with the drill.
>

Thanks for your post Dave,  useful information for me to bear in mind
in future.


> On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:10:16 GMT, "david lang"  wrote:

>aam wrote:
>> I noticed a hammer drill offered for sale in Aldis today.
>> It has an SDS-type  tool chuck but describes itself as being a
>> pneumatic drill.
>> However, it is also electically powered.
>> Is anyone here familiar with this tool, and able to say how it
>> compares with a simple  electrically operated SDS drill ?
>
>Can't comment on the exact drill, but when it is described as 'pneumatic', 
>that simply describes the way the bit is struck with the drills hammer.  All 
>SDS type drills use a piston which drives a hammer using air pressure.
>
>Dave
>

>Bought one, took it back 3 days after purchase and got a refund, noticed 2 others had made a return with the drill.

 


Sure beats hiring, doesn't it?

Mr Fuxit wrote:

>>Bought one, took it back 3 days after purchase and got a refund, noticed 2 others had made a return with the drill.
> 
> Sure beats hiring, doesn't it?


Possibly, but that's a form of theft.

I looked at the recent "light" Aldi drill, but didn't buy it
as I've already got a 900W one from the same place - the one
with the "barrel" containing the motor. The latter has done
a vast amount of work ove the last 18 months, or so, and
has been quite satisfactory. It was 25 with some bits, too.

"aam"  wrote in message 
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>
> I noticed a hammer drill offered for sale in Aldis today.
> It has an SDS-type  tool chuck but describes itself as being a
> pneumatic drill.
> However, it is also electically powered.
> Is anyone here familiar with this tool, and able to say how it
> compares with a simple  electrically operated SDS drill ?
>


yes, it is confusing, and I dithered about acquiring
an SDS drill versus a 'B&D" hammer drill because the
terminology seem designed to confuse the non-expert ...

Without commenting on any particular make/model ...
but a 'decent' SDS ;drill' will have three operating
modes viz; Drill (rotary only) - Drill and Hammer (rotary
plus hammering - and Hammer (no rotation just hammering).

Now restricting the conversation to an SDS drill in the
'Hammer-&_Drill mode:

The SDS 'thingies' on the base of the drill-bits and/or
chisels have a long groove - when inserted into the
'chuck' part of the machine this permits the drill/chisel
to slide back-and-forth in the chuck; conversely normal
drill-bits engage into a three-jawed chuck arrangement
and are unable to move in-out {if you've tightened the
chuck correctly).

An SDS drill actually hammers the bit's end causing the
bit to go in-rebound_out _as_ the bit is being rotated.
Although they're connected (by the motor) they are
two distinct actions, hammer and rotate.
The hammering comes from a piston which is pneumatically
operated off 'pneu" generated by the electric motor.


Normally, one can vary the amount of 'hammer' force by
the amount of 'squeeze' applied to the drill's trigger.
After a short use it's surprising how sensitive on becomes
to the amount of force applied.

A conventional hammer/drill of the old three-jawed chuck
style of drill only generates the hammer action by a rotating
wedge 'thingy' and basically reacts to the operator (you)
applying your force to the device. That's why these devices are
hard work and why it's difficult -if not impossible - to drill
precise round holes where you want them in masonry. The drill
is trying just as hard to move _you_ as it is to rotate the
bit.

SDS drill normally only generate 'pneu' action when the
bit is in contact with the work and has been depressed
(pushed) into the machine to operate a switch.

So the drill you've encountered is calling itself 'pneumatic'
to distinguish itself from the 'Hammer Drill' mode of the
other style.

In my experience , they're all electrically operated ... at the
scale we're discussing in this NG.

-- 

Brian