Recently I wrote asking about the thickness of the worktop jigs that you 
use with routers. Just for interest, the "budget" jig from Screwfix 
(note: not the 12m of oak-effect skirting board that they tried to fob 
me off with) is in-fact about 15mm thick.



Anyway, what a day - practiced with jig, no problems, so cut out the 
female joint on one worktop - beautiful results, so continued with new 
router to route a lip around the worktop (to fit under the tiles - the 
original worktop was 30mm, this is 40mm, so there needs to be a rebate 
to allow the edge of the worktop under the tile edge). Cut the piece to 
size, measured for the kitchen sink, and started cutting with jigsaw. 
Damned hard work - with downward cutting blades, the jigsaw bounces a 
lot, so I put more and more weight onto the worktop and the jigsaw to 
stop the bounce. This worked well, until I made the cut across the depth 
of the worktop; all of a sudden gravity kicked in and deposited me, the 
still whirring jigsaw and about 1/2 the worktop (say 50 worth) onto the 
floor (raises hand for Darwin nomination).

Repeated with the second worktop, although this time routed the sink 
hole with the worktop in situ (SWMBO has gone nuts over the sawdust) but 
at least this one's in place (shame about the hob, on the other worktop 
- that's gonna have to wait for another worktop to be deliver - bang 
goes another ton), but hopefully I've learnt a few lessons.*

(* the one I didn't learn, was to remember to route the tongues for the 
worktop clamps - SWMBO did query what they were for when she found them 
underneath all the sawdust. "Bugger", said I, or words to that effect, 
whilst glaring at the newly fitted sink; Still - plan-B - which is 
achieveable - is to screw some battens on the underside of each worktop 
and clamp between those - there'll be no fouls, and it'll allow me more 
space to biscuit the worktops).

What a day.

(sorry for the rant, but I'm just coming off the boil)

Mike.

In article <43232969$0$12176$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com>,
	Mike Dodd <no-address@lo0> writes:

>Anyway, what a day - practiced with jig, no problems, so cut out the 
>female joint on one worktop - beautiful results, so continued with new 
>router to route a lip around the worktop (to fit under the tiles - the 
>original worktop was 30mm, this is 40mm, so there needs to be a rebate 
>to allow the edge of the worktop under the tile edge). Cut the piece to 
>size, measured for the kitchen sink, and started cutting with jigsaw. 
>Damned hard work - with downward cutting blades, the jigsaw bounces a 
>lot, so I put more and more weight onto the worktop and the jigsaw to 
>stop the bounce. This worked well, until I made the cut across the depth 


I cutout for the sink using a set of hole cutters to cut the 4 holes
for the radiused corners, and then a circular saw (from the rear,
plunge cut) to join the 4 holes together. Need to be very accurate
starting and stopping the cut. I might have used a jigsaw just to
complete the circular saw cut squarely (it's a few years ago and I
can't recall exactly now).

-- 
Andrew Gabriel

In article <43233085$0$38038$5a6aecb4@news.aaisp.net.uk>, Andrew Gabriel
 writes

>In article <43232969$0$12176$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com>,
>       Mike Dodd <no-address@lo0> writes:
>>Anyway, what a day - practiced with jig, no problems, so cut out the 
>>female joint on one worktop - beautiful results, so continued with new 
>>router to route a lip around the worktop (to fit under the tiles - the 
>>original worktop was 30mm, this is 40mm, so there needs to be a rebate 
>>to allow the edge of the worktop under the tile edge). Cut the piece to 
>>size, measured for the kitchen sink, and started cutting with jigsaw. 
>>Damned hard work - with downward cutting blades, the jigsaw bounces a 
>>lot, so I put more and more weight onto the worktop and the jigsaw to 
>>stop the bounce. This worked well, until I made the cut across the depth 
>
>I cutout for the sink using a set of hole cutters to cut the 4 holes
>for the radiused corners, and then a circular saw (from the rear,
>plunge cut) to join the 4 holes together. Need to be very accurate
>starting and stopping the cut. I might have used a jigsaw just to
>complete the circular saw cut squarely (it's a few years ago and I
>can't recall exactly now).
>


And err.. when you've dun all that, coat the cut edges with a good
varnish or similar waterproof, just in case the water should ever leak
into the edges or joints such as it will if given half a chance and the
sight ain't pretty;!....
-- 
Tony Sayer

Mike Dodd wrote:


> stop the bounce. This worked well, until I made the cut across the depth 
> of the worktop; all of a sudden gravity kicked in and deposited me, the 
> still whirring jigsaw and about 1/2 the worktop (say 50 worth) onto the 
> floor (raises hand for Darwin nomination).


Oops, oh well it will probably be funny in a few years (well SWMBO will 
think so anyway! ;-)

Perhaps you ought to use the jigsaw to make a cutout (15mm oversize) in 
a bit of 1/2" ply. Then use that as a template for the router to make 
each of the cutouts...



-- 
Cheers,

John.

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John Rumm wrote:

> Mike Dodd wrote:
> 
>> stop the bounce. This worked well, until I made the cut across the 
>> depth of the worktop; all of a sudden gravity kicked in and deposited 
>> me, the still whirring jigsaw and about 1/2 the worktop (say 50 
>> worth) onto the floor (raises hand for Darwin nomination).
> 
> 
> Oops, oh well it will probably be funny in a few years (well SWMBO will 
> think so anyway! ;-)
> 
> Perhaps you ought to use the jigsaw to make a cutout (15mm oversize) in 
> a bit of 1/2" ply. Then use that as a template for the router to make 
> each of the cutouts...
> 


Ended up using the guide on the router to do the longitudinal cuts, and 
the clamped worktop jig as a guide for the lateral cuts (Her idea!).

Might do that (create jig) for when the next piece of worktop gets 
delivered - for the hob.

"Mike Dodd" <no-address@lo0> wrote in message 
news:43232969$0$12176$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...

>
> Recently I wrote asking about the thickness of the worktop jigs that you 
> use with routers. Just for interest, the "budget" jig from Screwfix (note: 
> not the 12m of oak-effect skirting board that they tried to fob me off 
> with) is in-fact about 15mm thick.

>
> Anyway, what a day - practiced with jig, no problems, so cut out the 
> female joint on one worktop - beautiful results, so continued with new 
> router to route a lip around the worktop (to fit under the tiles - the 
> original worktop was 30mm, this is 40mm, so there needs to be a rebate to 
> allow the edge of the worktop under the tile edge). Cut the piece to size, 
> measured for the kitchen sink, and started cutting with jigsaw. Damned 
> hard work - with downward cutting blades, the jigsaw bounces a lot, so I 
> put more and more weight onto the worktop and the jigsaw to stop the 
> bounce. This worked well, until I made the cut across the depth of the 
> worktop; all of a sudden gravity kicked in and deposited me, the still 
> whirring jigsaw and about 1/2 the worktop (say 50 worth) onto the floor 
> (raises hand for Darwin nomination).
>

Glad to hear you're OK :)
Having contributed my tu'pence to your thread; I've just remembered
something ... when you're cutting out 'great chunks' of worktop for
sinks or hobs etc ... make two parallel cuts for front/back or
left-side/right-side -then screw two battens across the cuts to the
inside of the area. Cut remaining sides - et volia! Nothing
falls out/down ... the cut-off doesn't become more and more wobbly
as your cut progresses ... and the bridging battens are a handy
means of moving the off-cut out of way.
{Saw it on Norm Abram's show ... tried it myself ... why didn't
I mention it?)

-- 

Brian

Brian Sharrock wrote:


> {Saw it on Norm Abram's show ... tried it myself ... why didn't
> I mention it?)
> 


Grrr!