There is a revolutionary instant dial service - JUST-DIAL, allowing you
to make savings on calls to destinations worldwide, right here, right
now - without the need to open an account or give any credit card
details or get yet another bill through your door. All you need is a
phone, the relevant instant dial access number(0870 794 3185) and
someone to call!


It's so eary! You don't join anything, or pay up front - just choose
your destination, and err...JUST DIAL!.

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How to make the Call
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1) Dial the relevant access number(0870 794 3185) for the country you
wish to call.
2) At the prompt dial your international destination number in
full(including 00)*
3) That's it, your're connected.

* Remember you can dial your destination number at any time during the
prompt.

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How you pay for the calls you make
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When you make a call via 0870 794 3185, you only pay for calling 0870
794 3185. It is your service provider that will charge you - not this
number. So for example, if you made a 5 minute call to India from a BT
phone, then next time you got your BT bill you would see a call to 0870
794 3185, a duration of 5 minutes and a charge of 50p and absolutely no
other charges. Simple!

The prices shown on this site are BT's charges per minute for calling
the access number 0870 794 3185 and you are charged per second from
connection to the 0870 794 3185 service. If you're not with BT you need
to check with your service provider hwo much they will charge for calls
made to the access numbers. Some mobile service providers even bundle
some of the access number 0870 794 3185 into certain free minutes
packages. If you are thinking of using  the access number 0870 794 3185
from your mobile phone plase first check the charges with your mobile
service provider. To find out the cost of calling from a UK mobile, or
a non BT landline, you should confirm the rates directly with your
service provider as these may vary.

Orange - 0800 80 10 80
Vodafone - 07836 191 191
mm02 - 08705 214 000
One 2 One / T-Mobile - 08454 121 121
Virgin - 0845 6000 789

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The popular destinvations
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1)Americas, Africa & Australasia
Algeria, Australia, Brazil, Canada, New Zealand, Nigeria, South Africa,
USA

2)Europe - East & West
France, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Poland, Russia, Sweden, Switzerland

3)Asia & the Middle East
China, Hong Kong, India, Iran, Japan, Israel, Malaysia, Pakistan

WARNING ITS  A  CON

In article , Fred
 writes

>WARNING ITS  A  CON 
>
>


Course it is 1189 is cheaper than 0870 numbers anyway!.....
-- 
Tony Sayer

On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 19:22:12 +0100, tony sayer 
wrote:


>In article , Fred
> writes
>>WARNING ITS  A  CON 
>>
>>
>
>Course it is 1189 is cheaper than 0870 numbers anyway!.....


Going the 0870 route you start to pay the instant the call through
operator answers the call. You pay while you are keying in the long
international number, you pay while *they* route the call through, you
pay while the called party's phone is ringing, and you still pay all
this if the called party never answers. :(

Oh, and any telco except BT can charge whatever they like for 0870
numbers, and they may/may not come out of inclusive minutes packages.

DG

In message , Fred 
 writes

>WARNING ITS  A  CON
>


And you have made no reference to what is

It's also commercial spam - abuse report sent

"In the spirit of your fight against Spam, could you please take the 
appropriate action against this poster who is using a gmail account to 
post commercial spam in the uk.d-i-y newsgroup in contravention of the 
charter of the NG"

encl

-- 
geoff

"tony sayer"  wrote in message 
news:gMz797AURyIDFwzF@bancom.co.uk...

> In article , Fred
>  writes
>>WARNING ITS  A  CON
>>
>>
>
> Course it is 1189 is cheaper than 0870 numbers anyway!.....
> -- 
> Tony Sayer
>


Do you mean 1899? Being 1899.com?

Which would cost about 43p for a five minute call to India @ 8p a minute and 
a connection charge of 3p.

I've been using it for months and benefiting nicely from the totally free 
local and national calls, other then the connection charge - which every one 
charges.

My sister's just moved to Australia and that's only 3p a minute! She was in 
Singapore before which was only 1p a minute!

How do those crazy 1899 people do it? That's 1899.com. The one stop service 
for free local and national calls and very cheap international ones. Make 
the move now and start saving.

In article <dg1435$tbs$1@news.freedom2surf.net>, RedOnRed 
writes

>
>"tony sayer"  wrote in message 
>news:gMz797AURyIDFwzF@bancom.co.uk...
>> In article , Fred
>>  writes
>>>WARNING ITS  A  CON
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Course it is 1189 is cheaper than 0870 numbers anyway!.....
>> -- 
>> Tony Sayer
>>
>
>Do you mean 1899? Being 1899.com?
>
>Which would cost about 43p for a five minute call to India @ 8p a minute and 
>a connection charge of 3p.
>
>I've been using it for months and benefiting nicely from the totally free 
>local and national calls, other then the connection charge - which every one 
>charges.
>
>My sister's just moved to Australia and that's only 3p a minute! She was in 
>Singapore before which was only 1p a minute!
>
>How do those crazy 1899 people do it? 



I believe they make great use of VoIP which costs very little. And they
don't seem to have a call centre and all the other costs that go with
it. If they can do it this cheap it just goes to show what BT and the
cable co's and mobile telco's are making!.

In fact I use it for calls to the USA at 1 pence per min can't be
bad!...

...

>That's 1899.com. The one stop service 
>for free local and national calls and very cheap international ones. Make 
>the move now and start saving.
>
>
>


-- 
Tony Sayer

In article <Y$wFBLAclBJDFwP7@bancom.co.uk>, tony sayer
 writes

>In article <dg1435$tbs$1@news.freedom2surf.net>, RedOnRed 
>writes
>>
>>"tony sayer"  wrote in message 
>>news:gMz797AURyIDFwzF@bancom.co.uk...
>>> In article , Fred
>>>  writes
>>>>WARNING ITS  A  CON
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Course it is 1189 is cheaper than 0870 numbers anyway!.....
>>> -- 
>>> Tony Sayer
>>>
>>
>>Do you mean 1899? Being 1899.com?
>>
>>Which would cost about 43p for a five minute call to India @ 8p a minute and 
>>a connection charge of 3p.
>>
>>I've been using it for months and benefiting nicely from the totally free 
>>local and national calls, other then the connection charge - which every one 
>>charges.
>>
>>My sister's just moved to Australia and that's only 3p a minute! She was in 
>>Singapore before which was only 1p a minute!
>>
>>How do those crazy 1899 people do it? 
>
>
>I believe they make great use of VoIP which costs very little. And they
>don't seem to have a call centre and all the other costs that go with
>it. If they can do it this cheap it just goes to show what BT and the
>cable co's and mobile telco's are making!.
>
>In fact I use it for calls to the USA at 1 pence per min can't be
>bad!...
>


Just to add check out www.niftylist.co.uk or .com they have some even
cheaper rates to some destinations dunno about the quality 'tho!....

-- 
Tony Sayer

> I believe they make great use of VoIP which costs very little. And they
> don't seem to have a call centre and all the other costs that go with
> it. If they can do it this cheap it just goes to show what BT and the
> cable co's and mobile telco's are making!.
>
> In fact I use it for calls to the USA at 1 pence per min can't be
> bad!...

> -- 
> Tony Sayer
>


Re-routing through VOIP, is that really possible? I suppose it must be. It's 
an interesting point.

"tony sayer"  wrote in message 
news:Y$wFBLAclBJDFwP7@bancom.co.uk...

> In article <dg1435$tbs$1@news.freedom2surf.net>, RedOnRed 
> writes
>>

>>How do those crazy 1899 people do it?
>
>
> I believe they make great use of VoIP which costs very little. And they
> don't seem to have a call centre and all the other costs that go with
> it. If they can do it this cheap it just goes to show what BT and the
> cable co's and mobile telco's are making!.


They are cherry-picking the best customers by marginal pricing.
It's easy to run a company on marginal pricing if your business
capacity is 100% (or close to) utilised.  But if you are the major
player in the market and have to provide a quality service at all
times you find that for large parts of the day/week your expensively
created capacity sits idle.  And that's before you get to pick up the
bill for the loss making socially required services that only you are
obliged to provide.

Telecomms is one of the easiest markets to steal the best customers
in this way.  Sooner or later something is going to have to be done
to redress this imbalance or there is not going to be a company
paying for the underlyng network on which everybody else piggy
-backs their marginal cost or even free, services.  I really don't
understand why it is that BT are so strongly against being broken
up into separate companies, it seems the best for them in the long
term.

Tim

In message <dg1435$tbs$1@news.freedom2surf.net>, RedOnRed  
writes

>
>"tony sayer"  wrote in message
>news:gMz797AURyIDFwzF@bancom.co.uk...
>> In article , Fred
>>  writes
>>>WARNING ITS  A  CON
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Course it is 1189 is cheaper than 0870 numbers anyway!.....
>> --
>> Tony Sayer
>>
>
>Do you mean 1899? Being 1899.com?
>
>Which would cost about 43p for a five minute call to India @ 8p a minute and
>a connection charge of 3p.
>
>I've been using it for months and benefiting nicely from the totally free
>local and national calls, other then the connection charge - which every one
>charges.
>
>My sister's just moved to Australia and that's only 3p a minute! She was in
>Singapore before which was only 1p a minute!
>
>How do those crazy 1899 people do it? That's 1899.com. The one stop service
>for free local and national calls and very cheap international ones. Make
>the move now and start saving.
>

Use MSN, Skype or GoogleTalk and it costs nothing



-- 
geoff