Hi,

just levered up some ancient lino tiles - I could have added yet another
layer but I object to burying filth.

I now have a concrete floor with ancient icky yucky sticky adhesive.

Any tips on how to cure the stickyness or remove the adhesive?

I seem to remember some mention of sprinkling cement dust or similar, then
brushing off.

Any suggestions considered :-)

Cheers
Dave R

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David W.E. Roberts wrote:

> Hi,
>
> just levered up some ancient lino tiles - I could have added yet
> another layer but I object to burying filth.
>
> I now have a concrete floor with ancient icky yucky sticky adhesive.
>
> Any tips on how to cure the stickyness or remove the adhesive?
>
> I seem to remember some mention of sprinkling cement dust or similar,
> then brushing off.
>
> Any suggestions considered :-)
>
> Cheers
> Dave R


A paint stripper/gas blow torch. :-)

On Thu, 8 Sep 2005 18:26:54 +0100, "David W.E. Roberts"
 wrote:


>I seem to remember some mention of sprinkling cement dust or similar, then
>brushing off.


I've used talc and a wallpaper scraper on similar. Would imagine
cement might work too.

In article , nospam@talk21.com says...

> Hi,
> 
> just levered up some ancient lino tiles - I could have added yet another
> layer but I object to burying filth.
> 
> I now have a concrete floor with ancient icky yucky sticky adhesive.
> 
> Any tips on how to cure the stickyness or remove the adhesive?
> 
> I seem to remember some mention of sprinkling cement dust or similar, then
> brushing off.
> 
> Any suggestions considered :-)
> 

Depending on the nature of the yucky goo you might find a hot-air 
stripper and scraper will work quite well.

On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 18:26:54 +0100, David W.E. Roberts   
wrote:


> I now have a concrete floor with ancient icky yucky sticky adhesive.

> Any tips on how to cure the stickyness or remove the adhesive?

> Any suggestions considered :-)


Find a Kango with a wide, toothed blade. Attack at about 30 deg to  
horizontal using a shop or rotten old vacuum cleaner, to remove the  
debris, cement dust will ruin a nice one. Put down a self smoothing  
compound and proceed from there.

http://www.axp.mdx.ac.uk/~john49/tbsfaq.htm

May be of some help

For large areas there are specialist machines like BlastTrac. Tried  
finding a website and failed.

John Schmitt

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John Schmitt wrote:

> On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 18:26:54 +0100, David W.E. Roberts
>  wrote:
>
>> I now have a concrete floor with ancient icky yucky sticky adhesive.
>
>> Any tips on how to cure the stickyness or remove the adhesive?
>
>> Any suggestions considered :-)
>
> Find a Kango with a wide, toothed blade. Attack at about 30 deg to
> horizontal using a shop or rotten old vacuum cleaner, to remove the
> debris, cement dust will ruin a nice one. Put down a self smoothing
> compound and proceed from there.
>
> http://www.axp.mdx.ac.uk/~john49/tbsfaq.htm
>
> May be of some help
>
> For large areas there are specialist machines like BlastTrac. Tried
> finding a website and failed.
>
> John Schmitt


pmsl, he wants to remove old tacky glue not break the concrete up.

On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 11:04:50 +0100, ben  wrote:



>> Find a Kango with a wide, toothed blade. Attack at about 30 deg to
>> horizontal using a shop or rotten old vacuum cleaner, to remove the
>> debris, cement dust will ruin a nice one. Put down a self smoothing
>> compound and proceed from there.

> pmsl, he wants to remove old tacky glue not break the concrete up.


The toothed blade will simply scarify the surface, removing some concrete  
and the overlying adhesive, which I believe will be acrylic. If it is  
snot-coloured, it is acrylic, if black bituminous. Kangos are rather weedy  
for breaking concrete, breakers or pneumatic drills are better. For  
serious work a hydraulic breaker on a site machine is the answer.

John Schmitt

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John Schmitt wrote:

> On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 11:04:50 +0100, ben  wrote:
>
>
>>> Find a Kango with a wide, toothed blade. Attack at about 30 deg to
>>> horizontal using a shop or rotten old vacuum cleaner, to remove the
>>> debris, cement dust will ruin a nice one. Put down a self smoothing
>>> compound and proceed from there.
>
>> pmsl, he wants to remove old tacky glue not break the concrete up.
>
> The toothed blade will simply scarify the surface, removing some
> concrete and the overlying adhesive, which I believe will be acrylic.
> If it is snot-coloured, it is acrylic, if black bituminous. Kangos
> are rather weedy for breaking concrete, breakers or pneumatic drills
> are better. For serious work a hydraulic breaker on a site machine is
> the answer.
>
> John Schmitt


So you would go out and hire or possibly buy one of these products just to
remove old glue that can easily be removed with a burning process using a
plumbers gas torch or paint stripper gun which most people own.

On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 11:35:19 +0100, ben  wrote:


>> The toothed blade will simply scarify the surface, removing some
>> concrete and the overlying adhesive, which I believe will be acrylic.
>> If it is snot-coloured, it is acrylic, if black bituminous. Kangos
>> are rather weedy for breaking concrete, breakers or pneumatic drills
>> are better. For serious work a hydraulic breaker on a site machine is
>> the answer.

> So you would go out and hire or possibly buy one of these products just  
> to
> remove old glue that can easily be removed with a burning process using a
> plumbers gas torch or paint stripper gun which most people own.


For certain values of remove, liable to be insufficient for a really good  
bond. Concrete is porous, so the adhesive penetrates the concrete to a  
greater or lesser extent. Depending on the subsequent flooring and  
adhesive used this can compromise the bond badly. How many years  
experience analysing building adhesive problems do you have? Try calling  
up one of the suppliers and seeing what advice they would give. You do not  
need to, in fact, I just gave it.

John Schmitt

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David W.E. Roberts wrote:

> Hi,
>
> just levered up some ancient lino tiles - I could have added yet another
> layer but I object to burying filth.
>
> I now have a concrete floor with ancient icky yucky sticky adhesive.
>
> Any tips on how to cure the stickyness or remove the adhesive?
>
> I seem to remember some mention of sprinkling cement dust or similar, then
> brushing off.
>
> Any suggestions considered :-)


Long handled scraper is what I used :

http://www.decoratingdirect.co.uk/viewprod/r/RODLHWS6/

Rgds

Paul.

zymurgy wrote:

> David W.E. Roberts wrote:
> >
> > just levered up some ancient lino tiles - I could have added yet another
> > layer but I object to burying filth.
> >
> > I now have a concrete floor with ancient icky yucky sticky adhesive.
> >
> > Any tips on how to cure the stickyness or remove the adhesive?
> >
> > I seem to remember some mention of sprinkling cement dust or similar, then
> > brushing off.
> >
> > Any suggestions considered :-)
>
> Long handled scraper is what I used :
>
> http://www.decoratingdirect.co.uk/viewprod/r/RODLHWS6/


Actually, IIRC I turned the scaper blade around, so I was scraping with
the 'blunt' side.

Cheers

Paul.

zymurgy wrote:

> David W.E. Roberts wrote:
> >
> > just levered up some ancient lino tiles - I could have added yet another
> > layer but I object to burying filth.
> >
> > I now have a concrete floor with ancient icky yucky sticky adhesive.
> >
> > Any tips on how to cure the stickyness or remove the adhesive?
> >
> > I seem to remember some mention of sprinkling cement dust or similar, then
> > brushing off.
> >
> > Any suggestions considered :-)
>
> Long handled scraper is what I used :
>
> http://www.decoratingdirect.co.uk/viewprod/r/RODLHWS6/


Actually, IIRC I turned the scraper blade around, so I was scraping
with the 'blunt' side.

Cheers

Paul.

"David W.E. Roberts"  wrote in message
news:3obaj0F55hjiU1@individual.net...

> Hi,
>
> just levered up some ancient lino tiles - I could have added yet another
> layer but I object to burying filth.
>
> I now have a concrete floor with ancient icky yucky sticky adhesive.
>
> Any tips on how to cure the stickyness or remove the adhesive?
>
> I seem to remember some mention of sprinkling cement dust or similar, then
> brushing off.
>
> Any suggestions considered :-)


Tried the cement dust trick and it seems to have worked.

I brushed a small amount across the floor and the stickiness went away.

I now have cheap lino over a layer of newspaper over the floor.

Hopefully the icky sticky won't get through the cement dust and the
newspaper.

The main hope was that it would prevent the newspaper sticking down and make
future removal of lino and newspaper easier.

I think that eventually I will have to follow the advice about grinding the
top layer off - it isn't in good condition or flat.

Thanks to all who contributed.

Dave R