Hi All
I am thinking of investing in a paint stripping gun - rather like a red hot 
hair dryer!  I have always used a blow lamp in the past but this new 
technology could be easier and safer. Any experiences, advice, do's or 
dont's? What about wattage? Do they burn off old paint properly? I have 15 
large sash windows to get sorted in the next year or so.

Rex.

On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 15:50:44 GMT, "Norcot"  wrote:


>Hi All
>I am thinking of investing in a paint stripping gun - rather like a red hot 
>hair dryer!  I have always used a blow lamp in the past but this new 
>technology could be easier and safer. Any experiences, advice, do's or 
>dont's? What about wattage? Do they burn off old paint properly? I have 15 
>large sash windows to get sorted in the next year or so.
>
>Rex. 
>

Yes, a good one works well and is much safer than a blow lamp which is
inherently dangerous due to the fmale and can scorch the wood. Dont
forget to wear a mask.



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> Hi All
> I am thinking of investing in a paint stripping gun -
> rather like a red hot hair dryer!  I have always used a
> blow lamp in the past but this new technology could be
> easier and safer. Any experiences, advice, do's or dont's?
> What about wattage? Do they burn off old paint properly? I
> have 15 large sash windows to get sorted in the next year
> or so. 
> 
> Rex. 


I've got at least two Black & Decker paint stripping guns around 
here. They work well. They are not made to last (plastic) but 
given how we use them fairly lightly they are both 10 years old 
now at least. One might get you through a serious job like your 
your sashes before it failed. They cost $40-$50 CDN here so it 
should only cost you about 20 pounds. And they are made in the 
UK! I use them for heat-shrinking jobs so can't really say how 
well they work on paint. But they get hot! And they are sold as 
paint strippers. They run on 115V and are labelled 1200 Watts. 
They have two heat settings, high and low.

Johnny-not-a-stripper

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<Johnny@ominous.portent> wrote in message >

> I've got at least two Black & Decker paint stripping guns around
> here. They work well. They are not made to last (plastic) but
> given how we use them fairly lightly they are both 10 years old
> now at least. One might get you through a serious job like your
> your sashes before it failed. They cost $40-$50 CDN here so it
> should only cost you about 20 pounds. And they are made in the
> UK! I use them for heat-shrinking jobs so can't really say how
> well they work on paint. But they get hot! And they are sold as
> paint strippers. They run on 115V and are labelled 1200 Watts.
> They have two heat settings, high and low.
>
> Johnny-not-a-stripper
>
>

Sounds like the ones we have advertised here. Argos list 3. A cheap one at 
15 and two others at about 20. I wondered how quick they were at melting 
exterior gloss paint. The blowlamp does it fine, but up a ladder they can be 
dangerous and do blow out in a wind. Obviously liquid paint stripper is 
useless on intricate things like sash windows. Thanks for advice.
Anyone out there used the hot air ones?

Rex.

Now this has got me thinking. Do these things work on varnish as well? In my 
line of business I occasionally have to strip the varnish off old chairs and 
it's a complete nightmare. I *hate* Nitromors but it's the only thing that 
really works properly.

ally

"a l l y"  wrote in message 
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> Now this has got me thinking. Do these things work on varnish as well? In 
> my line of business I occasionally have to strip the varnish off old 
> chairs and it's a complete nightmare. I *hate* Nitromors but it's the only 
> thing that really works properly.
>
> ally

 I will be getting one when I am fully informed about them. I will try it on 
varnish for you and let you know. As I'm sure you are aware,I restore 
antiques, mainly longcase clocks, and they frequently have a layer of 
varnish on them which I strip with Nitromors and wire wool before sealing 
and beeswax polishing, so I am interested for my own use.

Rex.

"tarquinlinbin"  wrote in message 
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> On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 15:50:44 GMT, "Norcot"  wrote:
>
>>Hi All
>>I am thinking of investing in a paint stripping gun - rather like a red 
>>hot
>>hair dryer!  I have always used a blow lamp in the past but this new
>>technology could be easier and safer. Any experiences, advice, do's or
>>dont's? What about wattage? Do they burn off old paint properly? I have 15
>>large sash windows to get sorted in the next year or so.
>>
>>Rex.
>>
> Yes, a good one works well and is much safer than a blow lamp which is
> inherently dangerous due to the fmale and can scorch the wood. Dont
> forget to wear a mask.



Good advice that. Maybe goggles as well?

Rex.

"Norcot"  wrote in message 
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>
> "a l l y"  wrote in message 
> news:3obc37F55vjkU2@individual.net...
>> Now this has got me thinking. Do these things work on varnish as well? In 
>> my line of business I occasionally have to strip the varnish off old 
>> chairs and it's a complete nightmare. I *hate* Nitromors but it's the 
>> only thing that really works properly.
>>
>> ally
> I will be getting one when I am fully informed about them. I will try it 
> on varnish for you and let you know. As I'm sure you are aware,I restore 
> antiques, mainly longcase clocks, and they frequently have a layer of 
> varnish on them which I strip with Nitromors and wire wool before sealing 
> and beeswax polishing, so I am interested for my own use.
>

Excellent. I'll be really interested to hear what sort of results you get.

ally

"a l l y"  wrote in message 
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>
>>>> Now this has got me thinking. Do these things work on varnish as well? 
>>>> In
>>> my line of business I occasionally have to strip the varnish off old 
>>> chairs and it's a complete nightmare. I *hate* Nitromors but it's the 
>>> only thing that really works properly.


Judging by the response to my cry for help, no one in Cumbria bothers to 
strip the paint before repainting. I'll bear that in mind when I get to buy 
a house up there. Are all your windows plastic? Yuk!

Rex.

On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 17:23:20 GMT, "Norcot"  wrote:


>
><Johnny@ominous.portent> wrote in message >
>> I've got at least two Black & Decker paint stripping guns around
>> here. They work well. They are not made to last (plastic) but
>> given how we use them fairly lightly they are both 10 years old
>> now at least. One might get you through a serious job like your
>> your sashes before it failed. They cost $40-$50 CDN here so it
>> should only cost you about 20 pounds. And they are made in the
>> UK! I use them for heat-shrinking jobs so can't really say how
>> well they work on paint. But they get hot! And they are sold as
>> paint strippers. They run on 115V and are labelled 1200 Watts.
>> They have two heat settings, high and low.
>>
>> Johnny-not-a-stripper
>>
>>
>Sounds like the ones we have advertised here. Argos list 3. A cheap one at 
>15 and two others at about 20. I wondered how quick they were at melting 
>exterior gloss paint. The blowlamp does it fine, but up a ladder they can be 
>dangerous and do blow out in a wind. Obviously liquid paint stripper is 
>useless on intricate things like sash windows. Thanks for advice.
>Anyone out there used the hot air ones?
>
>Rex. 
>


Yes, they are OK, but a bit slow. They do reduce the chances of scorching
the wood (or setting fire to your woodwork and stripped paint vs a butane
(or better still, a propane torch).

I would use them for wood which you then want to strip bare, stain and
treat with oil, beeswax or varnish.

If you are looking to repaint, and you have a large area, I'd prefer a
propane torch.

J.

"JH"  wrote in message

..

>>Anyone out there used the hot air ones?
>>
>>Rex.
>>
>
> Yes, they are OK, but a bit slow. They do reduce the chances of scorching
> the wood (or setting fire to your woodwork and stripped paint vs a butane
> (or better still, a propane torch).
>
> I would use them for wood which you then want to strip bare, stain and
> treat with oil, beeswax or varnish.
>
> If you are looking to repaint, and you have a large area, I'd prefer a
> propane torch.
>
> J.


That sounds like experienced advice. Thanks.

Rex.

"JH"  wrote in message
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> On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 17:23:20 GMT, "Norcot"  wrote:
>
> >
> ><Johnny@ominous.portent> wrote in message >
> >> I've got at least two Black & Decker paint stripping guns around
> >> here. They work well. They are not made to last (plastic) but
> >> given how we use them fairly lightly they are both 10 years old
> >> now at least. One might get you through a serious job like your
> >> your sashes before it failed. They cost $40-$50 CDN here so it
> >> should only cost you about 20 pounds. And they are made in the
> >> UK! I use them for heat-shrinking jobs so can't really say how
> >> well they work on paint. But they get hot! And they are sold as
> >> paint strippers. They run on 115V and are labelled 1200 Watts.
> >> They have two heat settings, high and low.
> >>
> >> Johnny-not-a-stripper
> >>
> >>
> >Sounds like the ones we have advertised here. Argos list 3. A cheap one
at
> >15 and two others at about 20. I wondered how quick they were at
melting
> >exterior gloss paint. The blowlamp does it fine, but up a ladder they can
be
> >dangerous and do blow out in a wind. Obviously liquid paint stripper is
> >useless on intricate things like sash windows. Thanks for advice.
> >Anyone out there used the hot air ones?
> >
> >Rex.
> >
>
> Yes, they are OK, but a bit slow. They do reduce the chances of scorching
> the wood (or setting fire to your woodwork and stripped paint vs a butane
> (or better still, a propane torch).
>
> I would use them for wood which you then want to strip bare, stain and
> treat with oil, beeswax or varnish.
>
> If you are looking to repaint, and you have a large area, I'd prefer a
> propane torch.
>
> J.


I have scraped and painted houses, fences, window frames and never used heat
or chemicals. A good scraper and good tools are my motto.

Edith Wornout.

On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 12:41:55 +0200, "The Traveller"  wrote:


>I have scraped and painted houses, fences, window frames and never used heat
>or chemicals. A good scraper and good tools are my motto.
>
>Edith Wornout.

       ^^^^^^^^

Exactly.

J.

"Norcot"  wrote in message 
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>
> "a l l y"  wrote in message 
> news:3obiemF57bjoU2@individual.net...
>>
>>>>> Now this has got me thinking. Do these things work on varnish as well? 
>>>>> In
>>>> my line of business I occasionally have to strip the varnish off old 
>>>> chairs and it's a complete nightmare. I *hate* Nitromors but it's the 
>>>> only thing that really works properly.
>
> Judging by the response to my cry for help, no one in Cumbria bothers to 
> strip the paint before repainting. I'll bear that in mind when I get to 
> buy a house up there. Are all your windows plastic? Yuk!
>

Don't know about windows, but an awful lot of front doors are of the plastic 
variety. They're horrible, ugly things, too narrow with an awkwardly high 
threshhold thingy to trip over as you go in.

We don't need to strip the paint off our windows. Everything's so damp the 
paint just falls off by itself...

ally

"a l l y"  wrote in message

Rex wrote>>

>> Judging by the response to my cry for help, no one in Cumbria bothers to 
>> strip the paint before repainting. I'll bear that in mind when I get to 
>> buy a house up there. Are all your windows plastic? Yuk!
>>
> Don't know about windows, but an awful lot of front doors are of the 
> plastic variety. They're horrible, ugly things, too narrow with an 
> awkwardly high threshhold thingy to trip over as you go in.
>

 I abhor plastic doors and windows. We are about the only house inj our road 
(All victorian houses) that has succumbed to the plastic. Needless to say we 
get regular visits from the plastic sales teams. I understand they only give 
a ten year guarantee on those windows.



> We don't need to strip the paint off our windows. Everything's so damp the 
> paint just falls off by itself...
>
> ally

 Sounds like the houses at Blackpool!

Rex

"Norcot"  wrote in message 
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>
> "> I abhor plastic doors and windows. We are about the only house in our 
> road (All victorian houses) that has succumbed to the plastic. Needless to 
> say we get regular visits from the plastic sales teams. I understand they 
> only give a ten year guarantee on those windows.
>

Just two little letters missed from the above. For 'has' read 'hasn't'! 
Sorry, must have been too early in the morning when I wrote it.


>
>> We don't need to strip the paint off our windows. Everything's so damp 
>> the paint just falls off by itself...
>>
>> ally

> Sounds like the houses at Blackpool!
>
> Rex
> 

"Norcot"  wrote in message 
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> I always wake about 5am, go down and make a pot of tea, at about 6.30am 
> ,which we drink in bed while we watch the news. This morning I had to 
> catch up on some business emails from the USA so I checked the newsgroup 
> as well.
>

Larks & owls. You're obviously a lark, and I'm definitely an owl.

ally

"a l l y"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Norcot"  wrote in message 
> news:R8yUe.9033$Y06.5025@newsfe2-win.ntli.net...
>> I always wake about 5am, go down and make a pot of tea, at about 6.30am 
>> ,which we drink in bed while we watch the news. This morning I had to 
>> catch up on some business emails from the USA so I checked the newsgroup 
>> as well.
>>
> Larks & owls. You're obviously a lark, and I'm definitely an owl.
>
> ally

 My late wife was an owl, never ready for bed and never ready to rise in the 
morning. She used to say she was no use, even to talk to, until coffee break 
at about 10am. Erica is simialr to me so I now have someone to talk to 
before 10am!

Rex.

On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 17:23:20 GMT, Norcot wrote:


> I wondered how quick they were at melting exterior gloss paint. 


I have a B&D variable heat jobbie, KX2000K. 2000W max rating. Works 
well enough though I've never used a gas torch to strip paint so can't 
really compare. Less messy than stripper that's for sure and Nitromors 
is nasty stuff.

My father used to use of paraffin or petrol blow lamps. The parafin 
one was begger to light, the petrol one was frighting...

-- 
Cheers                                              new5pam@howhill.com
Dave.                                             pam is missing e-mail

a l l y wrote:

> "Norcot"  wrote in message 
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> 
>>I always wake about 5am, go down and make a pot of tea, at about 6.30am 
>>,which we drink in bed while we watch the news. This morning I had to 
>>catch up on some business emails from the USA so I checked the newsgroup 
>>as well.
>>
> 
> Larks & owls. You're obviously a lark, and I'm definitely an owl.
> 
> ally 
> 
> 

Swallows and amazons.. I`m looking for an amazon who...  oh erm  never mind


gettingcoatily

Ron O'reilly

-- 
Lewd Valley Audio

www.lunevalleyaudio.com

"Norcot"  wrote in message
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>
> "a l l y"  wrote in message
> news:3ofsatF5inlnU3@individual.net...
> >
> > "Norcot"  wrote in message
> > news:R8yUe.9033$Y06.5025@newsfe2-win.ntli.net...
> >> I always wake about 5am, go down and make a pot of tea, at about 6.30am
> >> ,which we drink in bed while we watch the news. This morning I had to
> >> catch up on some business emails from the USA so I checked the
newsgroup
> >> as well.
> >>
> > Larks & owls. You're obviously a lark, and I'm definitely an owl.
> >
> > ally
>  My late wife was an owl, never ready for bed and never ready to rise in
the
> morning. She used to say she was no use, even to talk to, until coffee
break
> at about 10am. Erica is simialr to me so I now have someone to talk to
> before 10am!
>
> Rex.


That's nice to hear, Rex. Looks like you have yourself a good woman there.

Edith.
btw. I'm a phoenix

"Dave Liquorice"  wrote in message
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> On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 17:23:20 GMT, Norcot wrote:
>
> > I wondered how quick they were at melting exterior gloss paint.
>
> I have a B&D variable heat jobbie, KX2000K. 2000W max rating. Works
> well enough though I've never used a gas torch to strip paint so can't
> really compare. Less messy than stripper that's for sure and Nitromors
> is nasty stuff.
>
> My father used to use of paraffin or petrol blow lamps. The parafin
> one was begger to light, the petrol one was frighting...
>
> --
> Cheers                                              new5pam@howhill.com
> Dave.                                             pam is missing e-mail


Sand blow it?

Edith.

"Dirty Sanchez"  wrote in message
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> Norcot wrote:
> > "a l l y"  wrote in message
> > news:3ofn2pF5onstU2@individual.net...
> >>
> >> Gosh you were up early, weren't you? On a Saturday too!
> >>
> >> ally
>
> > I always wake about 5am, go down and make a pot of tea, at about
> > 6.30am ,which we drink in bed while we watch the news. This morning
> > I had to catch up on some business emails from the USA so I checked
> > the newsgroup as well.
>
> I used to do that until one morning when the dog jumped on the bed and I
> scalded my bits....
>
> .... believe it or not it's easier to drink my tea elsewhere than it is to
> keep a collie out of the bedroom....
>
> Kezzi-back-from-the-dead


Hiya Kez.  War'v yuh bin? Out throttling collies?

Edith.

"The Traveller"  wrote in message >

> That's nice to hear, Rex. Looks like you have yourself a good woman there.
>
> Edith.
> btw. I'm a phoenix
>

 I am very fortunate, Edith. I have been married to two extremely good 
women.
So, you are a phoenix. Mind you don't burn your tail feathers!

Rex

"Ron(UK)"  wrote in message >>

>>
> Swallows and amazons.. I`m looking for an amazon who...  oh erm  never 
> mind
>
>
> gettingcoatily
>
> Ron O'reilly
>

  Didn't the amazons chop off their breasts so they could shoot the bow 
better? You're obviuosly not a boob man.

Rex.  (Always been a legs and rear fan)

"Dirty Sanchez"  wrote in message 
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> Norcot wrote:
>> "a l l y"  wrote in message
>> news:3ofn2pF5onstU2@individual.net...
>>>
>>> Gosh you were up early, weren't you? On a Saturday too!
>>>
>>> ally
>
>> I always wake about 5am, go down and make a pot of tea, at about
>> 6.30am ,which we drink in bed while we watch the news. This morning
>> I had to catch up on some business emails from the USA so I checked
>> the newsgroup as well.
>
> I used to do that until one morning when the dog jumped on the bed and I 
> scalded my bits....
>
> .... believe it or not it's easier to drink my tea elsewhere than it is to 
> keep a collie out of the bedroom....
>
> Kezzi-back-from-the-dead
>


I'll have to believe you. I don't own a dog.


Rex.

"The Traveller"  wrote in message >

> Sand blow it?
>
> Edith.
>

 Up a double extension ladder in a gale????? I doooon't think so!


Rex.

Norcot wrote:


>>
> 
>  Up a double extension ladder in a gale????? I doooon't think so!
> 
> 
> Rex. 
>

In the library with a lead pipe?

Cluelessly
Ron O'Slueth

-- 
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Private Dick
www.lunevalleyaudio.com

Norcot wrote:

> "Ron(UK)"  wrote in message >>
> 
>>Swallows and amazons.. I`m looking for an amazon who...  oh erm  never 
>>mind
>>
>>
>>gettingcoatily
>>
>>Ron O'reilly
>>
> 
>   Didn't the amazons chop off their breasts so they could shoot the bow 
> better? You're obviuosly not a boob man.
> 
> Rex.  (Always been a legs and rear fan) 
> 
> 

I am a boob man, tho I have a high regard for a well turned ankle and a 
shapely thigh.

I fink the single breasted amazon woman fing is a myth

or in a womans case,  a Mythis

contentedly
Ron Nipples

-- 
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Blah blah blah
www.lunevalleyaudio.com

Ron(UK) wrote:


> I fink the single breasted amazon woman fing is a myth
> 
> or in a womans case,  a Mythis
> 
> contentedly
> Ron Nipples


I have one turned ankle at the moment. I'm keeping it rested, elevated 
and on ice.

Jp

Jpinny wrote:

> Ron(UK) wrote:
> 
>> I fink the single breasted amazon woman fing is a myth
>>
>> or in a womans case,  a Mythis
>>
>> contentedly
>> Ron Nipples
> 
> 
> I have one turned ankle at the moment. I'm keeping it rested, elevated 
> and on ice.
> 
> Jp


I had a nice repro Queen Anne table with nicely turned legs.

Antiquarianly
Ron Negus

-- 

www.lunevalleyaudio.com

"Ron(UK)"  wrote in message >

> I had a nice repro Queen Anne table with nicely turned legs.
>
> Antiquarianly
> Ron Negus
>

Interesting. I knew Hitler had many doubles but repro Queen Annes? I didn't 
realise espionage was so forward then.


Rex.

Norcot wrote:

> "Ron(UK)"  wrote in message >
> 
>>I had a nice repro Queen Anne table with nicely turned legs.
>>
>>Antiquarianly
>>Ron Negus
>>
> 
> Interesting. I knew Hitler had many doubles but repro Queen Annes? I didn't 
> realise espionage was so forward then.
> 
> 
> Rex. 
> 
> 

You Knew Hitler!  wow

undercoverly
Ron (Monty`s triple) O'Milligan

-- 
Lune Valley Audio
Oh it`s Jones the spy you want
www.lunevalleyaudio.com

"Ron(UK)"  wrote in message >> Interesting. I knew 
Hitler had many doubles but repro Queen Annes? I didn't

>> realise espionage was so forward then.
>>
>>
>> Rex.
> You Knew Hitler!  wow
>
> undercoverly
> Ron (Monty`s triple) O'Milligan



After I resigned as Kaiser Bill's batman I was taken on by the Hitlers.


Rex. Older than you think.

Norcot wrote:

> "Ron(UK)"  wrote in message >> Interesting. I knew 
> Hitler had many doubles but repro Queen Annes? I didn't
> 
>>>realise espionage was so forward then.
>>>
>>>
>>>Rex.
>>
>>You Knew Hitler!  wow
>>
>>undercoverly
>>Ron (Monty`s triple) O'Milligan
> 
> 
> 
> After I resigned as Kaiser Bill's batman I was taken on by the Hitlers.
> 
> 
> Rex. Older than you think. 
> 
> 


Any frond of Batman is a frond of mone

Michelleofzerreziztawncely

Officer Ron Crabtree

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"The Traveller"  wrote in message 
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> btw. I'm a phoenix


Have you risen from your own ashes or what?

ally

"Dirty Sanchez"  wrote in message 
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>
> I used to do that until one morning when the dog jumped on the bed and I 
> scalded my bits....
>
> .... believe it or not it's easier to drink my tea elsewhere than it is to 
> keep a collie out of the bedroom....


Oh, I believe that.


>
> Kezzi-back-from-the-dead
>

So, how was Hel.... Heaven, then?

ally-2-collies

"Norcot"  wrote in message 
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>>
>
> I'll have to believe you. I don't own a dog.
>

Hmm. I may have paid good money for them, but in reality, the dogs own us.

I miss cats.

ally

"Jpinny"  wrote in message
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> Ron(UK) wrote:
>
> > I fink the single breasted amazon woman fing is a myth
> >
> > or in a womans case,  a Mythis
> >
> > contentedly
> > Ron Nipples
>
> I have one turned ankle at the moment. I'm keeping it rested, elevated
> and on ice.
>
> Jp


Sorry to hear you have hurt your ankle, Jp. Hope it gets better asap.

Edith.

"a l l y"  wrote in message
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>
> "The Traveller"  wrote in message
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> > btw. I'm a phoenix
>
> Have you risen from your own ashes or what?
>
> ally


Yes, and it's only 500 years since last time. I'm endless.

Edith Tailgone.

"Jpinny"  wrote in message 
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> I have one turned ankle at the moment. I'm keeping it rested, elevated and 
> on ice.
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ouch.

ally