Just bought one of those Tevion 8in1 remotes and have decided to get the 
keys to learn. I have gone through the learning process with the keys, but 
how the hell do I get out of the learning mode now I've set the keys?

All is does is sit there saying "select key", if I press exit, or menue etc 
it then says "waiting", because after all it is in learning mode and waiting 
for a command from another remote!!!

So, anyone know how to get out of learning mode once you have finished 
teaching it?

I'm bloody baffled here.

-- 

Blueyonder Photographic Group
http://groups.msn.com/BlueyonderPhotographic

In article <NfBTe.104064$G8.7159@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, 
axious@REMOVETHISgmail.com says...

>  Just bought one of those Tevion 8in1 remotes and have decided to get the 
> keys to learn. I have gone through the learning process with the keys, but 
> how the hell do I get out of the learning mode now I've set the keys?
> 
> All is does is sit there saying "select key", if I press exit, or menue etc 
> it then says "waiting", because after all it is in learning mode and waiting 
> for a command from another remote!!!
> 
> So, anyone know how to get out of learning mode once you have finished 
> teaching it?
> 
> I'm bloody baffled here.


Is it this one?

http://www.akustik-perfekt.de/Daten/manual8in1remotecontrol.pdf

If so, it says:

For programming you proceed as follows:
1. "SETUP '' key for approx.. 3 sec. keeps printed, until the LED after 
short flash durably lights up. (with short manipulation of the =3FSETUP 
key'' you have key the SHIFTS function activated)
2. "Setup" key release.
3. If you press briefly the key for the desired mode (TV, VCR, DVD, 
DSAT, CD, CBL, AUX sat).
4. The key LEARN press.
5. Press now the key at that universal remote maintenance, those with 
the appropriate function to be occupied be LED shine durably on).
6. Hold grope now for your original remote maintenance were enough in
such a way pressed, until the LED expires to that universal remote
maintenance once (each false programming is indicated through to flash
to the LED)
7. Repeat the steps 5 and 6 to all functions are programmed.
8. Terminate they programming through press the SETUP key.

I guess the last step is the important one...

Wonderful English, eh?  I may pick one of these up, as I fancy a bit of 
"hold grope" later ;-)
-- 
Ian Riches
Bedford, UK

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Ian Riches  popped a head above the parapet and 
announced forth in a bold strong and almost manly voice:

> In article <NfBTe.104064$G8.7159@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
> axious@REMOVETHISgmail.com says...
>>  Just bought one of those Tevion 8in1 remotes and have decided to get the
>> keys to learn. I have gone through the learning process with the keys, 
>> but
>> how the hell do I get out of the learning mode now I've set the keys?
>>
>> All is does is sit there saying "select key", if I press exit, or menue 
>> etc
>> it then says "waiting", because after all it is in learning mode and 
>> waiting
>> for a command from another remote!!!
>>
>> So, anyone know how to get out of learning mode once you have finished
>> teaching it?
>>
>> I'm bloody baffled here.
>
> Is it this one?
>
> http://www.akustik-perfekt.de/Daten/manual8in1remotecontrol.pdf
>
> If so, it says:
>
> For programming you proceed as follows:
> 1. "SETUP '' key for approx.. 3 sec. keeps printed, until the LED after
> short flash durably lights up. (with short manipulation of the =3FSETUP
> key'' you have key the SHIFTS function activated)
> 2. "Setup" key release.
> 3. If you press briefly the key for the desired mode (TV, VCR, DVD,
> DSAT, CD, CBL, AUX sat).
> 4. The key LEARN press.
> 5. Press now the key at that universal remote maintenance, those with
> the appropriate function to be occupied be LED shine durably on).
> 6. Hold grope now for your original remote maintenance were enough in
> such a way pressed, until the LED expires to that universal remote
> maintenance once (each false programming is indicated through to flash
> to the LED)
> 7. Repeat the steps 5 and 6 to all functions are programmed.
> 8. Terminate they programming through press the SETUP key.
>
> I guess the last step is the important one...
>
> Wonderful English, eh?  I may pick one of these up, as I fancy a bit of
> "hold grope" later ;-)


No, that's not the one. :(

Wonderful English, eh?  I may pick one of these up, as I fancy a bit of

> "hold grope" later ;-)


the only bit of "hold grope" youre gonna get is from your right hand

In message <NfBTe.104064$G8.7159@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, 
^^artnada^^  writes

>So, anyone know how to get out of learning mode once you have finished
>teaching it?
>
>I'm bloody baffled here.


Just press one of the top 8 buttons to select a device to control!

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and announced forth in a bold strong and almost manly voice:

> In message <NfBTe.104064$G8.7159@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
> ^^artnada^^  writes
>> So, anyone know how to get out of learning mode once you have finished
>> teaching it?
>>
>> I'm bloody baffled here.
>
> Just press one of the top 8 buttons to select a device to control!


I tried that, and it doesn';t store what I've just entered!

In message <W0CTe.104083$G8.26462@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, 
^^artnada^^  writes

>>> I'm bloody baffled here.
>>
>> Just press one of the top 8 buttons to select a device to control!
>
>I tried that, and it doesn';t store what I've just entered!


Unfortunately I think that's a limitation of the unit, rather than it 
not remembering. It says in the manual it can not replicate all signals 
and that's been experience. I've been able to program my AV amp, DVD etc 
- using the method above. But other buttons on other remotes refuse to 
be learnt, despite declaring "success".

It sounds to be a common problem here 
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=87502&page=1&pp=10

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voice:

> In message <W0CTe.104083$G8.26462@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
> ^^artnada^^  writes
>>>> I'm bloody baffled here.
>>>
>>> Just press one of the top 8 buttons to select a device to control!
>>
>> I tried that, and it doesn';t store what I've just entered!
>
> Unfortunately I think that's a limitation of the unit, rather than it
> not remembering. It says in the manual it can not replicate all signals
> and that's been experience. I've been able to program my AV amp, DVD etc
> - using the method above. But other buttons on other remotes refuse to
> be learnt, despite declaring "success".
>
> It sounds to be a common problem here
> http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=87502&page=1&pp=10


Oh well. Looks like tha's going back tomorrow then. Pointless having a 
"learning remote" if it isn't going to learn anything :(

Just press  the device key of the one you are progging...   ie SAT - HOLD 
set, do the learning thing, pressing the key you want the function ON, then 
the key on the original remote...   repeat as neccessary.... when done press 
SAT again to exit learning.... it DOES work !

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> Just press  the device key of the one you are progging...   ie SAT -
Did that

>HOLD set,
Did that

>do the learning thing, pressing the key you want the function ON,
Did that

>then the key on the original remote...
Did that

>repeat as neccessary....
Did that

>when done press SAT again to exit learning....

Did that

it DOES work !

Um. no it doesn't. I spent well over an hour doing exactly that, and once I 
pressed Sat button to exit learning, the learned buttons did not do as they 
were supposed to.

Still, what can you expect for a fiver. You pays ya money...  :D

"^^artnada^^"  wrote in message 
news:b0GTe.104254$G8.33444@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...

> In news:_DDTe.3565$Pn1.1428@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net,
> Paul R  popped a head above the parapet and 
> announced forth in a bold strong and almost manly voice:
>
>> Just press  the device key of the one you are progging...   ie SAT -
> Did that
>
>>HOLD set,
> Did that
>
>>do the learning thing, pressing the key you want the function ON,
> Did that
>
>>then the key on the original remote...
> Did that
>
>>repeat as neccessary....
> Did that
>
>>when done press SAT again to exit learning....
> Did that
>
> it DOES work !
>
> Um. no it doesn't. I spent well over an hour doing exactly that, and once 
> I pressed Sat button to exit learning, the learned buttons did not do as 
> they were supposed to.
>
> Still, what can you expect for a fiver. You pays ya money...  :D



The fiver is irrelevant... it does work !  So unless you have a faulty one, 
you must be doing something wrong.... which I doubt, as its dead easy !
The learning requires a photodiode, which you can see through the red panel, 
in the right light ! perhaps this is missing/disconnected....  have you 
managed to prog ANY key ?
if not, id say it was faulty...  try one key at a time, instead of a batch - 
you should see "success" on the LCD when its learned a code, or "fail" when 
there's a problem... you can have the donor remote too close I found, about 
a foot seems most reliable on our two remotes.

In article <b0GTe.104254$G8.33444@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, 
axious@REMOVETHISgmail.com says...

> In news:_DDTe.3565$Pn1.1428@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net,
> Paul R  popped a head above the parapet and 
> announced forth in a bold strong and almost manly voice:
> 
> > Just press  the device key of the one you are progging...   ie SAT -
> Did that
> 
> >HOLD set,
> Did that
> 
> >do the learning thing, pressing the key you want the function ON,
> Did that
> 
> >then the key on the original remote...
> Did that
> 
> >repeat as neccessary....
> Did that
> 
> >when done press SAT again to exit learning....
> Did that
> 
> it DOES work !
> 
> Um. no it doesn't. I spent well over an hour doing exactly that, and once I 
> pressed Sat button to exit learning, the learned buttons did not do as they 
> were supposed to.
> 
> Still, what can you expect for a fiver. You pays ya money...  :D 
> 



Don't suppose it includes JP1 support does it? The usual way is a 6 pin 
header under the battery.

I had a 1 One4All audio zapper which as supplied would only support 
audio devices. Using JP1 it could be completely reprogrammed to handle 
anything including a sky digibox.

Info at: http://www.hifi-remote.com/jp1/

If it does support JP1 I'll try and get one myself...

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> "^^artnada^^"  wrote in message
> news:b0GTe.104254$G8.33444@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> In news:_DDTe.3565$Pn1.1428@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net,
>> Paul R  popped a head above the parapet and
>> announced forth in a bold strong and almost manly voice:
>>
>>> Just press  the device key of the one you are progging...   ie SAT -
>> Did that
>>
>>> HOLD set,
>> Did that
>>
>>> do the learning thing, pressing the key you want the function ON,
>> Did that
>>
>>> then the key on the original remote...
>> Did that
>>
>>> repeat as neccessary....
>> Did that
>>
>>> when done press SAT again to exit learning....
>> Did that
>>
>> it DOES work !
>>
>> Um. no it doesn't. I spent well over an hour doing exactly that, and once
>> I pressed Sat button to exit learning, the learned buttons did not do as
>> they were supposed to.
>>
>> Still, what can you expect for a fiver. You pays ya money...  :D
>
>
> The fiver is irrelevant... it does work !  So unless you have a faulty 
> one,
> you must be doing something wrong.... which I doubt, as its dead easy !

I know. It's piss easy.



> The learning requires a photodiode, which you can see through the red 
> panel,
> in the right light ! perhaps this is missing/disconnected....  have you
> managed to prog ANY key ?
No

> if not, id say it was faulty...

Possibly

try one key at a time, instead of a batch -
Did that


> you should see "success" on the LCD when its learned a code,

Yep, it does that.

or "fail" when

> there's a problem...

Did that to, I just moved the rremotes slightly apart to get success.

you can have the donor remote too close I found, about

> a foot seems most reliable on our two remotes.

Tried it.

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Stephen Henson <steve@nospam.invalid> popped a head above the parapet and 
announced forth in a bold strong and almost manly voice:

> In article <b0GTe.104254$G8.33444@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
> axious@REMOVETHISgmail.com says...
>> In news:_DDTe.3565$Pn1.1428@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net,
>> Paul R  popped a head above the parapet and
>> announced forth in a bold strong and almost manly voice:
>>
>>> Just press  the device key of the one you are progging...   ie SAT -
>> Did that
>>
>>> HOLD set,
>> Did that
>>
>>> do the learning thing, pressing the key you want the function ON,
>> Did that
>>
>>> then the key on the original remote...
>> Did that
>>
>>> repeat as neccessary....
>> Did that
>>
>>> when done press SAT again to exit learning....
>> Did that
>>
>> it DOES work !
>>
>> Um. no it doesn't. I spent well over an hour doing exactly that, and once 
>> I
>> pressed Sat button to exit learning, the learned buttons did not do as 
>> they
>> were supposed to.
>>
>> Still, what can you expect for a fiver. You pays ya money...  :D
>>
>
>
> Don't suppose it includes JP1 support does it? The usual way is a 6 pin
> header under the battery.
>
> I had a 1 One4All audio zapper which as supplied would only support
> audio devices. Using JP1 it could be completely reprogrammed to handle
> anything including a sky digibox.
>
> Info at: http://www.hifi-remote.com/jp1/
>
> If it does support JP1 I'll try and get one myself...


Took the remote back to Aldi today and blokey said they have had alot of 
them returned. Why? Because they won't learn codes for digiboxes. I knew it 
wasn't me ;)

Oh well.

>
> Took the remote back to Aldi today and blokey said they have had alot of 
> them returned. Why? Because they won't learn codes for digiboxes. I knew 
> it wasn't me ;)
>
> Oh well.
>


Sounds like the digibox remote produces oddball codes then, shame coz its a 
banging remote, kicks my one for all into touch - and that was 30 !

"^^artnada^^" emitted :


>Took the remote back to Aldi today and blokey said they have had alot of 
>them returned. Why? Because they won't learn codes for digiboxes. I knew it 
>wasn't me ;)
>
>Oh well. 


I had a few keys off remotes which it wouldn't learn, managed to
download some (but not all) of them to a PDA device and beam them
across. In the end I am satisfactied with the results, YMMV.

In article <1bYTe.104807$G8.1065@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, 
axious@REMOVETHISgmail.com says...

> In news:MPG.1d89478d9d04f4dd989763@news.clara.net,
> Stephen Henson <steve@nospam.invalid> popped a head above the parapet and 
> announced forth in a bold strong and almost manly voice:
> >
> >
> > Don't suppose it includes JP1 support does it? The usual way is a 6 pin
> > header under the battery.
> >
> > I had a 1 One4All audio zapper which as supplied would only support
> > audio devices. Using JP1 it could be completely reprogrammed to handle
> > anything including a sky digibox.
> >
> > Info at: http://www.hifi-remote.com/jp1/
> >
> > If it does support JP1 I'll try and get one myself...
> 
> Took the remote back to Aldi today and blokey said they have had alot of 
> them returned. Why? Because they won't learn codes for digiboxes. I knew it 
> wasn't me ;)
> 


Some remotes have trouble learning some protocols but can be programmed 
with new device codes manually (using JP1) and work fine. 

Anyway to answer my own question, I examined one of the controls and 
there's no JP1 interface in the usual place (under the battery holder). 
There may be some pads or a socket inside but it would have aroused 
suspicions if I'd pulled one to bits in the shop :-)

Pity because it otherwise looks a bargain for the price.

Steve.