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I found this story today at the quoted URL:

 http://www.wafb.com/Global/story.asp?S=3811261&nav=0aWUeBI6
At the Train Station, New Orleans' New Jail is Open for Business

NEW ORLEANS (AP)

After being criticized over the lawlessness just after Hurricane Katrina,
New Orleans police started arresting people and immediately hit another
snag, no jail. Colonel Terry Norris of the Louisiana Department of
Corrections says he and two fellow former state troopers got the assignment
of solving the problem. They commandeered the train and bus station and went
to work. What they got was a temporary jail with room for 700. The cells are
actually open-air cages with chain-link fencing, topped by razor wire.
Norris says their first prisoner "drove up in a stolen car and wanted to buy
a bus ticket." One official says felons being housed are not people who
stole food, but people who stole things like TV sets or drugs from
pharmacies. There are about 124 prisoners there now, but that's expected to
grow.

(Copyright 2005 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

- Regards,

Alan (in Brussels)
Date:Tue, 6 Sep 2005 19:54:16 +0200   Author:  

Re: New Orleans bus+rail station now a jail (integrated transport!)   
"Alan (in Brussels)"  wrote in message
news:6_GdnYv2lLviSoDeRVnygQ@scarlet.biz...

> I found this story today at the quoted URL:
>
>  http://www.wafb.com/Global/story.asp?S=3811261&nav=0aWUeBI6
> At the Train Station, New Orleans' New Jail is Open for Business
>
> NEW ORLEANS (AP)
>
> After being criticized over the lawlessness just after Hurricane Katrina,
> New Orleans police started arresting people and immediately hit another
> snag, no jail. Colonel Terry Norris of the Louisiana Department of
> Corrections says he and two fellow former state troopers got the
assignment
> of solving the problem. They commandeered the train and bus station and
went
> to work. What they got was a temporary jail with room for 700. The cells
are
> actually open-air cages with chain-link fencing, topped by razor wire.
> Norris says their first prisoner "drove up in a stolen car and wanted to
buy
> a bus ticket." One official says felons being housed are not people who
> stole food, but people who stole things like TV sets or drugs from
> pharmacies. There are about 124 prisoners there now, but that's expected
to
> grow.
>
>

drugs from pharmacies. i wonder how many of them were ill though, quite a
few i bet.
cheers
james
Date:Tue, 06 Sep 2005 17:59:18 GMT   Author:  

Re: New Orleans bus+rail station now a jail (integrated transport!)   

> drugs from pharmacies. I wonder how many of them were ill though, quite a
> few I bet.



I presume it means "recreational" drugs, or drugs for "recreational use".


Tom
Date:Tue, 06 Sep 2005 18:08:12 GMT   Author:  

Re: New Orleans bus+rail station now a jail (integrated transport!)   
"Alan (in Brussels)"  wrote in message 
news:6_GdnYv2lLviSoDeRVnygQ@scarlet.biz...

>I found this story today at the quoted URL:
>
> http://www.wafb.com/Global/story.asp?S=3811261&nav=0aWUeBI6
> At the Train Station, New Orleans' New Jail is Open for Business
>
> NEW ORLEANS (AP)
>
> After being criticized over the lawlessness just after Hurricane Katrina,
> New Orleans police started arresting people and immediately hit another
> snag, no jail. Colonel Terry Norris of the Louisiana Department of
> Corrections says he and two fellow former state troopers got the 
> assignment
> of solving the problem. They commandeered the train and bus station and 
> went
> to work. What they got was a temporary jail with room for 700. The cells 
> are
> actually open-air cages with chain-link fencing, topped by razor wire.
> Norris says their first prisoner "drove up in a stolen car and wanted to 
> buy
> a bus ticket." One official says felons being housed are not people who
> stole food, but people who stole things like TV sets or drugs from
> pharmacies. There are about 124 prisoners there now, but that's expected 
> to
> grow.


They showed this on the TV news yesterday (or was it sunday).

It had just one occupant then.  It looked quite silly in fact.

tim
Date:Tue, 6 Sep 2005 22:11:38 +0200   Author:  

Re: New Orleans bus+rail station now a jail (integrated transport!)   

>
> It had just one occupant then.  It looked quite silly in fact.
>
> tim
>

As does all of America these days
Date:Tue, 6 Sep 2005 21:11:35 -0400   Author:  

Re: New Orleans bus+rail station now a jail (integrated transport!)   
tim (moved to sweden) wrote:

> "Alan (in Brussels)"  wrote in message
> news:6_GdnYv2lLviSoDeRVnygQ@scarlet.biz...
> >I found this story today at the quoted URL:
> >
> > http://www.wafb.com/Global/story.asp?S=3811261&nav=0aWUeBI6
> > At the Train Station, New Orleans' New Jail is Open for Business
> >
> > NEW ORLEANS (AP)
> >
> > One official says felons being housed are not people who
> > stole food, but people who stole things like TV sets or drugs from
> > pharmacies. There are about 124 prisoners there now, but that's expected
> > to
> > grow.
>
> They showed this on the TV news yesterday (or was it sunday).
>
> It had just one occupant then.  It looked quite silly in fact.
>
> tim


There were around 400 prisoners evacuated from a jail that flooded and
were sitting shackled in the open on a bridge about 3 miles from this
bus station guarded by just 9 warders. The intention, (according to ABC
news) was for the military to take these prisoners by landing craft to
the bus station area for holding. The landing craft never arrived. The
big fear was these prisoners getting loose in the chaos into the City
making things even worse.
Whilst sitting at Heathrow yesterday I heard an American in
conversation with an English chap. In essence the American was saying
how lucky the UK is having a more civilised society unlikely to break
down like this in the event of a major disaster. No? I'm not so sure.
Given circumstances similar to that of New Orleans I could see such
scenes happening in the UK in many cities and towns. The UK's
population would be just as short of food and medicine and our
emergency services, whilst professional, lack many basic equipment
needs. In 1987 I was working a night shift as a traffic police officer
when the hurricane struck the South of England. Instead of dealing with
trees down across roads and traffic accidents after the worst had
passed I was arresting or transporting yobs who used the situation to
gain easy access to houses and shops where windows/conservatories etc.
had been broken open. Lower scale but leafy Berkshire had it's share of
low lifes ready to exploit such situations. Today though, more of them
have weapons. The rich/poor divide is also present in the UK and the
social polarisation just as likely to lead to unrest as the USA.
Fortunately geographically we are not likely to suffer as many
hurricanes, but we are getting more flooding and building on flood
plains seemed to be the in thing in the 1980s and 90s.   The hotel I am
in at the moment is just down the road from some churches and sports
halls in Denver where some 1500 refugees are being housed having been
airlifted out of New Orleans over the last three days. I saw some of
the families queuing for food last night as the local Salvation Army
and Red Cross were doling it out from huge tented kitchens. Let's hope
we never have to do the same.
Date:6 Sep 2005 23:28:34 -0700   Author:  

Re: New Orleans bus+rail station now a jail (integrated transport!)   
jon.porter1@lycosmax.co.uk wrote:
<snip>

> The hotel I am
> in at the moment is just down the road from some churches and sports
> halls in Denver

<snip>

Denver ... you're about 25 miles down the road from me (I'm in Boulder). 
  Enjoy your stay.

Someday (just to keep things slightly related to railways) you should be 
able to take a train from DIA to downtown Denver...

Louis
Date:Wed, 07 Sep 2005 15:13:23 -0600   Author:  

Re: New Orleans bus+rail station now a jail (integrated transport!)   
jon.porter1@lycosmax.co.uk wrote:

>
> Whilst sitting at Heathrow yesterday I heard an American in
> conversation with an English chap. In essence the American was saying
> how lucky the UK is having a more civilised society unlikely to break
> down like this in the event of a major disaster.


whilst there would be the usual yobbish behavior and vandalism there is one
ingredient in the chaos of New Orleans that would not be present in a
similar situation in the UK.  There would be no sporting goods stores with a
ready supply of guns and ammunition left unguarded for the animals to take.

Al



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Date:Wed, 7 Sep 2005 18:26:49 -0500   Author:  

Re: New Orleans bus+rail station now a jail (integrated transport!)   
"Alfred Packer"  wrote in message
news:1126135774_18387@spool6-east.superfeed.net...

>
> whilst there would be the usual yobbish behavior and
> vandalism there is one ingredient in the chaos of New
> Orleans that would not be present in a similar situation
> in the UK.  There would be no sporting goods stores
> with a ready supply of guns and ammunition left
> unguarded for the animals to take.


There are gun shops in London - I can think of two.

-- 
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
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That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes
Date:Thu, 8 Sep 2005 11:28:19 +0100   Author:  

Re: New Orleans bus+rail station now a jail (integrated transport!)   
dave hill wrote:

> jon.porter1@lycosmax.co.uk writes
> >>
> >> Denver ... you're about 25 miles down the road from me (I'm in Boulder).
> >>   Enjoy your stay.
> >>
> >> Someday (just to keep things slightly related to railways) you should be
> >> able to take a train from DIA to downtown Denver...
> >>
> >> Louis
> >
> >To keep things railway related I see that power for this temporary
> >prison is provided by an Amtrak locomotive wired up as a mobile
> >generator. Incidentally two days of my stay were spent on hikes in and
> >around Boulder!
> >Totally by accident (although my Wife doesn't believe me!) We had
> >booked the LaQuinta in Downtown Denver, surrounded by BNSF and UP
> >power!!
> >
>   No doubt a visit to the Coors Brewery and a trip to the railroad museum
> to see a version of the galloping Goose are on the cards maybe
> -- 
> dave hill


Done both, fortunately my Wife likes Coors Light.
Date:16 Sep 2005 15:16:23 -0700   Author:  

Re: New Orleans bus+rail station now a jail (integrated transport!)   
jon.porter1@lycosmax.co.uk wrote

>>   No doubt a visit to the Coors Brewery and a trip to the railroad museum
>> to see a version of the galloping Goose are on the cards maybe
>> --
>> dave hill
>
>Done both, fortunately my Wife likes Coors Light.
>

Well if you didn't see the brewery by hell you could smell it
from a great distance
-- 
dave hill
Date:Sun, 18 Sep 2005 11:49:53 +0100   Author:  

Re: New Orleans bus+rail station now a jail (integrated transport!)   
jon.porter1@lycosmax.co.uk writes

>>
>> Denver ... you're about 25 miles down the road from me (I'm in Boulder).
>>   Enjoy your stay.
>>
>> Someday (just to keep things slightly related to railways) you should be
>> able to take a train from DIA to downtown Denver...
>>
>> Louis
>
>To keep things railway related I see that power for this temporary
>prison is provided by an Amtrak locomotive wired up as a mobile
>generator. Incidentally two days of my stay were spent on hikes in and
>around Boulder!
>Totally by accident (although my Wife doesn't believe me!) We had
>booked the LaQuinta in Downtown Denver, surrounded by BNSF and UP
>power!!
>

  No doubt a visit to the Coors Brewery and a trip to the railroad museum 
to see a version of the galloping Goose are on the cards maybe
-- 
dave hill
Date:Fri, 16 Sep 2005 12:39:14 +0100   Author: