The rising fuel prices are a pain in the neck. Every week they seem to go up
a little bit, so I take notice of petrol station prices every time I pass them. 
I had to laugh when I passed a Texaco and Esso just opposite of each other on 
the road into Uxbridge. Texaco unleaded: 99.9p and Esso 94.9p. The general 
prices in the area were 93.9p-95.9p (today).

In article , Johannes 
says...

> The rising fuel prices are a pain in the neck.


So go organise a protest then.

-- 
Conor

"You're not married, you haven't got a girlfriend and you've never seen 
Star Trek? Good Lord!" - Patrick Stewart, Extras.

"Conor"  wrote in message 
news:MPG.1d87d2342c5da71d98aac6@news.individual.net...

> In article , Johannes
> says...
>> The rising fuel prices are a pain in the neck.
>
> So go organise a protest then.
>
> -- 
> Conor
>



A demonstration outside the Saudi embassy?

"Johannes"  wrote in message 
news:431DB587.DC470086@spam-no-chance-sizefitter.com...

> The rising fuel prices are a pain in the neck. Every week they seem to go 
> up
> a little bit, so I take notice of petrol station prices every time I pass 
> them.
> I had to laugh when I passed a Texaco and Esso just opposite of each other 
> on
> the road into Uxbridge. Texaco unleaded: 99.9p and Esso 94.9p. The general
> prices in the area were 93.9p-95.9p (today).


Still plenty of wankers tearing about the streets, tailgating and roaring 
away from the lights.

Petrol's obviously still not *that* expensive as to affect the way people 
drive!

MattF

"Matt F"  wrote in message

> Still plenty of wankers tearing about the streets, tailgating and
> roaring away from the lights.
>
> Petrol's obviously still not *that* expensive as to affect the way
> people drive!


It can't be that far off when the new craze of filling up and driving
off without paying becomes widespread.  Might be an ideal time to setup
business selling number plates mailorder - for novelty purpose only!

The message <d_kTe.103563$G8.96285@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>
from "Matt F"  contains these words:


> > the road into Uxbridge. Texaco unleaded: 99.9p and Esso 94.9p. The general
> > prices in the area were 93.9p-95.9p (today).

> Still plenty of wankers tearing about the streets, tailgating and roaring 
> away from the lights.


UL has yet to reach 90p at Tescos in Telford tonight.

-- 
Skipweasel.
In the beginning was the word.
And the word was Aardvark.

"Matt F"  wrote in message
news:d_kTe.103563$G8.96285@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...

> Still plenty of wankers tearing about the streets, tailgating and roaring
> away from the lights.
>
> Petrol's obviously still not *that* expensive as to affect the way people
> drive!
>
> MattF
>
>


Traffics no lighter either!

Johannes  writes

>The rising fuel prices are a pain in the neck. Every week they seem to go up
>a little bit, so I take notice of petrol station prices every time I 
>pass them.
>I had to laugh when I passed a Texaco and Esso just opposite of each other on
>the road into Uxbridge. Texaco unleaded: 99.9p and Esso 94.9p. The general
>prices in the area were 93.9p-95.9p (today).


I believe that large sums are being spent on updating pumps with 
indicators which show prices above 1.    Most only go up to 99.9p.  :-)
-- 
Gordon Harris

"John"  wrote in message
news:3o66kuF4crhmU1@individual.net...

> "Matt F"  wrote in message
> > Still plenty of wankers tearing about the streets, tailgating and
> > roaring away from the lights.
> >
> > Petrol's obviously still not *that* expensive as to affect the way
> > people drive!
>
> It can't be that far off when the new craze of filling up and driving
> off without paying becomes widespread.  Might be an ideal time to setup
> business selling number plates mailorder - for novelty purpose only!


i dont know why they cant adopt the policy you pay for your fuel before you
get it .

"Johannes"  wrote in message 
news:431DB587.DC470086@spam-no-chance-sizefitter.com...

> The rising fuel prices are a pain in the neck. Every week they seem to go 
> up
> a little bit, so I take notice of petrol station prices every time I pass 
> them.
> I had to laugh when I passed a Texaco and Esso just opposite of each other 
> on
> the road into Uxbridge. Texaco unleaded: 99.9p and Esso 94.9p. The general
> prices in the area were 93.9p-95.9p (today).


Could be worse, In America there is a big outrage on the brew.
some people r paying $3.50/usGallon!!!!!!
..............amounts to bout 50p a litre

reg (reg@somewhere.fsten.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying : 


> 
> "John"  wrote in message
> news:3o66kuF4crhmU1@individual.net...
>> "Matt F"  wrote in message
>> > Still plenty of wankers tearing about the streets, tailgating and
>> > roaring away from the lights.
>> >
>> > Petrol's obviously still not *that* expensive as to affect the way
>> > people drive!
>>
>> It can't be that far off when the new craze of filling up and driving
>> off without paying becomes widespread.  Might be an ideal time to
>> setup business selling number plates mailorder - for novelty purpose
>> only! 
> 
> i dont know why they cant adopt the policy you pay for your fuel
> before you get it .


Who ever knows how much they're going to put in?

"Hello, I'm going to put 50 in".
<five mins later>
"Oops, it only took 40. Can I have my tenner back?"
- or -
"It's taken 60."

The message <dfl5uh$7sr$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>
from "reg"  contains these words:


> i dont know why they cant adopt the policy you pay for your fuel before you
> get it .


Some do at certain times of day. Or, more importantly, night.

-- 
Skipweasel.
In the beginning was the word.
And the word was Aardvark.

The message 
from Adrian  contains these words:


> > i dont know why they cant adopt the policy you pay for your fuel
> > before you get it .

> Who ever knows how much they're going to put in?


Me, for a start, except on the rare occasions when I actually "fill up".
Otherwise I just stick 20 at a time in.


> "Hello, I'm going to put 50 in".
> <five mins later>
> "Oops, it only took 40. Can I have my tenner back?"
> - or -
> "It's taken 60."


Simple - you say you want 20 worth and hand 'em 20. They then
authorise that pump to dispense up to 20. If you fail to reach that,
you get change.

-- 
Skipweasel.
In the beginning was the word.
And the word was Aardvark.

reg wrote:


> 
> "John"  wrote in message
> news:3o66kuF4crhmU1@individual.net...
>> "Matt F"  wrote in message
>> > Still plenty of wankers tearing about the streets, tailgating and
>> > roaring away from the lights.
>> >
>> > Petrol's obviously still not *that* expensive as to affect the way
>> > people drive!
>>
>> It can't be that far off when the new craze of filling up and driving
>> off without paying becomes widespread.  Might be an ideal time to setup
>> business selling number plates mailorder - for novelty purpose only!
> 
> i dont know why they cant adopt the policy you pay for your fuel before
> you get it .


A better solution is to do what is often done in France. The exit from the
pumps is controlled by a manned barrier. After filling, you drive to the
barrier and pay at the booth, like a manned exit car park.

Chris

-- 
Remove prejudice to reply

Guy King (guy.king@zetnet.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they 
were saying :


>> > i dont know why they cant adopt the policy you pay for your fuel
>> > before you get it .

>> Who ever knows how much they're going to put in?

> Me, for a start, except on the rare occasions when I actually "fill up".
> Otherwise I just stick 20 at a time in.


I suspect you're an exception. I *always* fill, and never know exactly how 
much it's going to take - especially if I'm swapping between cars, or 
driving one that's new to me.

Gordon wrote:

> 
> Johannes  writes
> >The rising fuel prices are a pain in the neck. Every week they seem to go up
> >a little bit, so I take notice of petrol station prices every time I
> >pass them.
> >I had to laugh when I passed a Texaco and Esso just opposite of each other on
> >the road into Uxbridge. Texaco unleaded: 99.9p and Esso 94.9p. The general
> >prices in the area were 93.9p-95.9p (today).
> 
> I believe that large sums are being spent on updating pumps with
> indicators which show prices above 1.    Most only go up to 99.9p.  :-)
> --
> Gordon Harris


That would start with 100.9p :-) I thought it might be opportunistic for
Texaco to charge 99.9p when nearby stations charge far less.

Gordon wrote:

> 
> Johannes  writes
> >The rising fuel prices are a pain in the neck. Every week they seem to go up
> >a little bit, so I take notice of petrol station prices every time I
> >pass them.
> >I had to laugh when I passed a Texaco and Esso just opposite of each other on
> >the road into Uxbridge. Texaco unleaded: 99.9p and Esso 94.9p. The general
> >prices in the area were 93.9p-95.9p (today).
> 
> I believe that large sums are being spent on updating pumps with
> indicators which show prices above 1.    Most only go up to 99.9p.  :-)
> --
> Gordon Harris


A journo must have read this thread LOL!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4219570.stm

In article , 
Adrian says...


> Who ever knows how much they're going to put in?


It's something that is commonplace in areas with high rates of drive 
offs.

-- 
Conor

"You're not married, you haven't got a girlfriend and you've never seen 
Star Trek? Good Lord!" - Patrick Stewart, Extras.

The message 
from Adrian  contains these words:


> > Me, for a start, except on the rare occasions when I actually "fill up".
> > Otherwise I just stick 20 at a time in.

> I suspect you're an exception.


Had to put some fuel in my car today and stopped for a while to watch
how other people did it. I'd say most chose a value and filled to it.
There were five people in the queue in front of me three of whom had
neat round amounts - a tenner and two twenties.

-- 
Skipweasel.
In the beginning was the word.
And the word was Aardvark.

"Guy King"  wrote in message 
news:3130303034323739431EFC6A17@zetnet.co.uk...

> The message 
> from Adrian  contains these words:
>
>> > Me, for a start, except on the rare occasions when I actually "fill up".
>> > Otherwise I just stick 20 at a time in.
>
>> I suspect you're an exception.
>
> Had to put some fuel in my car today and stopped for a while to watch
> how other people did it. I'd say most chose a value and filled to it.
> There were five people in the queue in front of me three of whom had
> neat round amounts - a tenner and two twenties.


So a total of a gallon between them? ;)

Dave Griffs  writes

>
>"Matt F"  wrote in message
>news:d_kTe.103563$G8.96285@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> Still plenty of wankers tearing about the streets, tailgating and roaring
>> away from the lights.
>>
>> Petrol's obviously still not *that* expensive as to affect the way people
>> drive!
>>
>> MattF
>
>Traffics no lighter either!
>

The 4x4 off-roader school runs have started again round here.        8-(
-- 
Gordon Harris

Adrian  writes

>
>I suspect you're an exception. I *always* fill, and never know exactly how
>much it's going to take - especially if I'm swapping between cars, or
>driving one that's new to me.


I fill to the cut-off point every time, then feed mileage, litres, cost 
etc into a spreadsheet which keeps a complete record.
It's the only way to get accurate fuel consumption figures.   (IMO).
-- 
Gordon Harris

The message 
from Gordon  contains these words:


> It's the only way to get accurate fuel consumption figures. 


While true, it's not an area of great concern to many.

-- 
Skipweasel.
In the beginning was the word.
And the word was Aardvark.

Hold on, in Redditch, Worcestershire, unleaded is 93.9.
Someone else said Texaco had it at 99.9
And another person said they saw it for 90.9, thats 9p per litre difference 
in total, now I am aware of regional differences, but......

So I wonder what petrol could be REASONABLY sold at?

Hmm.......


>> the road into Uxbridge. Texaco unleaded: 99.9p and Esso 94.9p. The 
>> general
>> prices in the area were 93.9p-95.9p (today). 

Rich wrote:

> 
> Hold on, in Redditch, Worcestershire, unleaded is 93.9.
> Someone else said Texaco had it at 99.9
> And another person said they saw it for 90.9, thats 9p per litre difference
> in total, now I am aware of regional differences, but......


That was me :-) It puzzled me that this Texaco was just opposite of 
an Esso which had 94.9p for unleaded. Normally those two stations have 
identical prices as this is probably the only practical solution. You
can actually see the other station's prices from the forecourt. 

A further mile up the road, another Esso has unleaded for 93.9p.

Guy King  writes

>The message 
>from Gordon  contains these words:
>
>> It's the only way to get accurate fuel consumption figures.
>
>While true, it's not an area of great concern to many.
>

I jus' like doing spreadsheets.   :-)

I used to work it out by calculator and plot a graph way back when I had 
a Mk1 Cortina, and it was only when the mpg graph dropped sharply I 
found out a carb jet was blocked.....
-- 
Gordon Harris

> Who ever knows how much they're going to put in?
>
> "Hello, I'm going to put 50 in".
> <five mins later>
> "Oops, it only took 40. Can I have my tenner back?"
> - or -
> "It's taken 60."


The "pay at the pump" is the best idea I think - stick your card in and then 
you can fill to a certain amount or you can fill the tank up. No change, no 
messing and no accidentally going over what you've paid, etc. And you have 
the added bonus of not having to queue at the cashier desk, too!

Stephen.

Stephen H wrote:

> 
> > Who ever knows how much they're going to put in?
> >
> > "Hello, I'm going to put 50 in".
> > <five mins later>
> > "Oops, it only took 40. Can I have my tenner back?"
> > - or -
> > "It's taken 60."
> 
> The "pay at the pump" is the best idea I think - stick your card in and then
> you can fill to a certain amount or you can fill the tank up. No change, no
> messing and no accidentally going over what you've paid, etc. And you have
> the added bonus of not having to queue at the cashier desk, too!
> 
> Stephen.


A station at ASDA has this. I did have problems because the pump was dry
and the cashier didn't notice. The pump nevertheless charged me a small
amount, but I got a shop voucher from the cashier. However, I completely
forgot to use it.

John  wrote:


> "Matt F"  wrote in message
> > Still plenty of wankers tearing about the streets, tailgating and
> > roaring away from the lights.
> >
> > Petrol's obviously still not *that* expensive as to affect the way
> > people drive!
> 
> It can't be that far off when the new craze of filling up and driving
> off without paying becomes widespread.  Might be an ideal time to setup
> business selling number plates mailorder - for novelty purpose only! 


There's nothing new about that. It's been going on for years - most
supermarket petrol stations (bar Asda with their drive-through setup)
will see at least one a week.
-- 
Steve H 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
http://www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - MZ ETZ300 - Alfa 75 TSpark
Alfa 156 2.0 TSpark Lusso - Passat 1.8 Turbo SE -  COSOC KOTL
BoTAFOT #87 - BoTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #

Guy King  wrote:


> The message 
> from Gordon  contains these words:
> 
> > It's the only way to get accurate fuel consumption figures. 
> 
> While true, it's not an area of great concern to many.


I keep a check on it - but only because the car tells me.
-- 
Steve H 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
http://www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - MZ ETZ300 - Alfa 75 TSpark
Alfa 156 2.0 TSpark Lusso - Passat 1.8 Turbo SE -  COSOC KOTL
BoTAFOT #87 - BoTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #

Stephen H (stephen4095@hotmail.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying : 


> The "pay at the pump" is the best idea I think - stick your card in
> and then you can fill to a certain amount or you can fill the tank up.


Never bloody goes high enough to allow me to fill.

Hell, one local BP even used to cut off at 60 if you were paying in the 
hut.

SteveH (steve@italiancar.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they 
were saying :


>> > It's the only way to get accurate fuel consumption figures. 

>> While true, it's not an area of great concern to many.

> I keep a check on it - but only because the car tells me.


So's mine.

I use the "remaining range" on the computer and zero the trip odo when I 
fill up. Add the two together, and if I'm heading for better than 500 
miles, I'm doing well, much less and I've either been doing too much urban 
or too much hooning.

The "remaining range" won't read more than 620 miles... (three digits, so 
999km...)

The message 
from Adrian  contains these words:


> The "remaining range" won't read more than 620 miles... (three digits, so 
> 999km...)

 
How daft! Driven carefully I can get nearly 800 miles on a tankful. 

-- 
Skipweasel.
In the beginning was the word.
And the word was Aardvark.

Guy King (guy.king@zetnet.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying : 


>> The "remaining range" won't read more than 620 miles... (three
>> digits, so 999km...)

> How daft! Driven carefully I can get nearly 800 miles on a tankful. 


Mine's a petrol auto. Even then, I've seen it reading 620 to go with 100 
gone.

A diesel manual should be able to get damn near a thousand miles 
pussyfooted.

SteveH  writes

>Guy King  wrote:
>
>> The message 
>> from Gordon  contains these words:
>>
>> > It's the only way to get accurate fuel consumption figures.
>>
>> While true, it's not an area of great concern to many.
>
>I keep a check on it - but only because the car tells me.


So does mine, but not quite the same figure as a fuel v mileage 
calculation.      ;-)

I've only had the car a few weeks though, so haven't tested it more than 
once.
-- 
Gordon Harris

The message 
from Adrian  contains these words:


> A diesel manual should be able to get damn near a thousand miles 
> pussyfooted.


Mine's an auto.

-- 
Skipweasel.
In the beginning was the word.
And the word was Aardvark.

"Guy King"  wrote in message 
news:3130303034323739431EA25D30@zetnet.co.uk...

> The message 
> from Adrian  contains these words:
>
>> > i dont know why they cant adopt the policy you pay for your fuel
>> > before you get it .
>
>> Who ever knows how much they're going to put in?
>
> Me, for a start, except on the rare occasions when I actually "fill up".
> Otherwise I just stick 20 at a time in.
>
>> "Hello, I'm going to put 50 in".
>> <five mins later>
>> "Oops, it only took 40. Can I have my tenner back?"
>> - or -
>> "It's taken 60."
>
> Simple - you say you want 20 worth and hand 'em 20. They then
> authorise that pump to dispense up to 20. If you fail to reach that,
> you get change.


Heh, my brother-in-law is a German living in the UAE, it costs him less than 
a fiver to fill his BMW 330 :(
When he asked me how much UK fuel is, he didn't understand when I told him 
"twenty quid"...

Every time he's over here, he's dumbfounded that diesel is more expensive 
than petrol, he travels the world and says the UK is the only country where 
this is the case :(

-- 

Tony Bond / UncleFista

www.bradford7.co.uk

Love is like a snowmobile, speeding across the frozen tundra.
Which suddenly flips, pinning you underneath.
At night the ice-weasels come...

The message <0cdUe.12911$k22.843@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>
from "Tony Bond \(UncleFista\)"  contains
these words:


> Every time he's over here, he's dumbfounded that diesel is more expensive 
> than petrol, he travels the world and says the UK is the only country where 
> this is the case :(


I saw it today at less than UL, but it was in the wilds of Wales and the
UL was about 106.

-- 
Skipweasel.
In the beginning was the word.
And the word was Aardvark.

"Tony Bond (UncleFista)" wrote:

> 
> "Guy King"  wrote in message
> news:3130303034323739431EA25D30@zetnet.co.uk...
> > The message 
> > from Adrian  contains these words:
> >
> >> > i dont know why they cant adopt the policy you pay for your fuel
> >> > before you get it .
> >
> >> Who ever knows how much they're going to put in?
> >
> > Me, for a start, except on the rare occasions when I actually "fill up".
> > Otherwise I just stick 20 at a time in.
> >
> >> "Hello, I'm going to put 50 in".
> >> <five mins later>
> >> "Oops, it only took 40. Can I have my tenner back?"
> >> - or -
> >> "It's taken 60."
> >
> > Simple - you say you want 20 worth and hand 'em 20. They then
> > authorise that pump to dispense up to 20. If you fail to reach that,
> > you get change.
> 
> Heh, my brother-in-law is a German living in the UAE, it costs him less than
> a fiver to fill his BMW 330 :(
> When he asked me how much UK fuel is, he didn't understand when I told him
> "twenty quid"...
> 
> Every time he's over here, he's dumbfounded that diesel is more expensive
> than petrol, he travels the world and says the UK is the only country where
> this is the case :(


They may pay higher annual car tax for a diesel.

Guy King wrote:

> The message 
> from Adrian  contains these words:
>
>> A diesel manual should be able to get damn near a thousand miles
>> pussyfooted.
>
> Mine's an auto.


And the size of the tank??

In message <1h2l6hs.e7dr471btjm5fN%steve@italiancar.co.uk>, SteveH 
 writes

>John  wrote:
>> It can't be that far off when the new craze of filling up and driving
>> off without paying becomes widespread.  Might be an ideal time to setup
>> business selling number plates mailorder - for novelty purpose only!
>
>There's nothing new about that. It's been going on for years - most
>supermarket petrol stations (bar Asda with their drive-through setup)
>will see at least one a week.


The number 3 pump at our local Shell petrol station used to spend more 
of its time out of order than it did working.  This went on for many 
months and often resulted in annoyingly long queues for the other three 
pumps.  I eventually commented on the unreliability of the pump, and 
they told me "No, it's fine, it's just that number 3 suffers badly from 
drive-offs, so we keep it switched off."

It made sense when I thought about it:  It was the furthest from the 
shop's front door, and also offered the quickest get-away for cars with 
an offside fuel filler.  It seems to be on most of the time these days 
though, so either the problem's not so bad now, or they've gone and 
installed cameras.

-- 
David Thornber

The message <vqkUe.34751$2n6.5739@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk>
from "PC Paul"  contains these words:


> >> A diesel manual should be able to get damn near a thousand miles
> >> pussyfooted.
> >
> > Mine's an auto.

> And the size of the tank??


80l

-- 
Skipweasel.
In the beginning was the word.
And the word was Aardvark.

"Johannes"  wrote in message 
news:431F4E21.D93D87DD@spam-no-chance-sizefitter.com...

>
>
> Rich wrote:
>>
>> Hold on, in Redditch, Worcestershire, unleaded is 93.9.
>> Someone else said Texaco had it at 99.9
>> And another person said they saw it for 90.9, thats 9p per litre 
>> difference
>> in total, now I am aware of regional differences, but......
>
> That was me :-) It puzzled me that this Texaco was just opposite of
> an Esso which had 94.9p for unleaded. Normally those two stations have
> identical prices as this is probably the only practical solution. You
> can actually see the other station's prices from the forecourt.
>
> A further mile up the road, another Esso has unleaded for 93.9p.


I remember when supermarkets first stared to sell fuel
the people across the road would often complain that it was cheaper to fill 
up a tanker from their pumps and then flog it from theirs than buy from the 
people who sold it to them