According to:

http://www.atoc.org/traveltrade/newsrail/pdfs/ne291_25_06_05.pdf

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DISCOUNT FARES FOR DISABLED PEOPLE WHO DO NOT HAVE A DISABLED PERSONS
RAILCARD

Please remember the following discounts are available for disabled
people who do not hold a Disabled Persons Railcard:

People who have to stay in their own wheelchair for the journey
When a person travels in their own wheelchair and does not have a
Railcard they are entitled to the following discounts. The same
discount applies to one companion.

Ticket type Discount
First Class or Standard Open Single 34%
First Class or Standard Day Single 34%
First Class or Standard Day Return 50%
First Class or Standard Open Return 34%

Discount code 0001 should be used when issuing the tickets.
Disabled children aged between 5 and under 16 travelling in wheelchairs
are allowed 75% discount off the above ticket types. If they have an
adult companion, then this person is allowed the discounts shown above.
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Does this mean that anyone could get a discount merely by travelling in
a wheelchair regardless of whether they need to or not.

> DISCOUNT FARES FOR DISABLED PEOPLE WHO DO NOT HAVE A DISABLED PERSONS
> RAILCARD

 > ***********************

> Does this mean that anyone could get a discount merely by travelling in
> a wheelchair regardless of whether they need to or not.
>

Presumably so subject to the obvious scrutiny of the Booking office/train 
conductor..but what are you going to do with a wheelchair when you get to 
your destination?
As an aside to this , if travelling by Virgin Trains does their policy of 
full price tickets only on board a train , with no railcard discounts still 
apply to this category of passenger.?  Presumably booking office staff have 
to sell those tickets as well as onboard staff. How do they know if you are 
staying in the wheelchair throughout the journey.
....How does the penalty scheme operated by a lot of TOC's impact onto this 
type of ticket?

"turbo"  wrote in message 
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>> DISCOUNT FARES FOR DISABLED PEOPLE WHO DO NOT HAVE A DISABLED PERSONS
>> RAILCARD
> > ***********************
>> Does this mean that anyone could get a discount merely by travelling in
>> a wheelchair regardless of whether they need to or not.
>>
> Presumably so subject to the obvious scrutiny of the Booking office/train 
> conductor..but what are you going to do with a wheelchair when you get to 
> your destination?


Not only do you save money - it's also one way of guaranteeing a seat during 
the rush hour.


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> it's also one way of guaranteeing a seat during 
> the rush hour.


I always thought that was just a driver's privilege: a guaranteed seat.

-- 
Dave,                                     
Frodsham

turbo wrote:

>>DISCOUNT FARES FOR DISABLED PEOPLE WHO DO NOT HAVE A DISABLED PERSONS
>>RAILCARD
> 
>  > ***********************
> 
>>Does this mean that anyone could get a discount merely by travelling in
>>a wheelchair regardless of whether they need to or not.
>>
> 
> Presumably so subject to the obvious scrutiny of the Booking office/train 
> conductor..but what are you going to do with a wheelchair when you get to 
> your destination?
> As an aside to this , if travelling by Virgin Trains does their policy of 
> full price tickets only on board a train , with no railcard discounts still 
> apply to this category of passenger.?  Presumably booking office staff have 
> to sell those tickets as well as onboard staff. How do they know if you are 
> staying in the wheelchair throughout the journey.
> ...How does the penalty scheme operated by a lot of TOC's impact onto this 
> type of ticket? 
> 
> 

The main disadvantage that I can see is your have to rely on a assisted 
travel which, in my experience, is not particularly reliable.  In fact 
Newport (Gwent) refused to provide it for me.

Roger.