(Sorry about cross-posting - will explain itself as you read on)
Just got a cold call* from a company calling themselves "Space Kitchens" 
from Nottingham.
A couple of things caught my attention:
When they called, they said I'd be chosen for a free kitchen (yeah, right). 
But when I expressed an interest, the "adviser" I got put through to said a 
refund would come to me IF I was chosen to appear in the magazine.
Did some more digging, found this blog:
http://www.jonmasters.org/wordpress/index.php?p=297
The phone number matches to one shown on this site:
http://www.spacekitchens.co.uk/
would you trust someone who didn't even pay the fiver or whatever to remove 
to uk2 banner??
But wait - looking at the frame, it points to:
http://www.featurehomekitchens.co.uk/
which don't have a Nottingham office, but DO have the offer they mentioned.
I googled for them...whats this about? Hundreds and hundreds of subdomains 
like
oburn32 whall4 fulford96 etc etc, all pointing to the same place...
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=featurehomekitchens&start=40&sa=N

Also, when I get junk calls on this "call sign" second number, they always 
ask for the homeowner - I got callsign at the same time I switched the line 
over to me, and yet these people were asking for the previous occupant of 
the house, who never had callsign! That's weird - how did the crossover 
happen?

Anyway, I WAS actually thinking of getting a kitchen done, so if these 
people are much of a muchness, then I might as well take a punt.
They said they'll ring back in an hour (about 30 mins now) so any advice 
appreciated, and if it's a "NO!" then what info can I squeeze out of them to 
add to the anti-scam blogs?

Thanks!

*(on a line I registered for TPS last week, but I understand the process 
takes longer than that, so I'm not complaining about the call, per se!)

In article <431c5dde$1_2@x-privat.org>,
   Jonathan  wrote:

> Anyway, I WAS actually thinking of getting a kitchen done, so if these 
> people are much of a muchness, then I might as well take a punt.


Anyone who accepts such 'offers' has money to burn. It's an interesting way to
throw money away but I'm sure I can make you an equally interesting offer -
just pack the notes in brown paper and post them to ...

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"Jonathan"  wrote in message 
news:431c5dde$1_2@x-privat.org...

> (Sorry about cross-posting - will explain itself as you read on)
> Just got a cold call* from a company calling themselves "Space Kitchens" 
> from Nottingham.
> A couple of things caught my attention:
> When they called, they said I'd be chosen for a free kitchen (yeah, 
> right). But when I expressed an interest, the "adviser" I got put through 
> to said a refund would come to me IF I was chosen to appear in the 
> magazine.
> Did some more digging, found this blog:
> http://www.jonmasters.org/wordpress/index.php?p=297
> The phone number matches to one shown on this site:
> http://www.spacekitchens.co.uk/
> would you trust someone who didn't even pay the fiver or whatever to 
> remove to uk2 banner??
> But wait - looking at the frame, it points to:
> http://www.featurehomekitchens.co.uk/
> which don't have a Nottingham office, but DO have the offer they 
> mentioned.
> I googled for them...whats this about? Hundreds and hundreds of subdomains 
> like
> oburn32 whall4 fulford96 etc etc, all pointing to the same place...
> http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=featurehomekitchens&start=40&sa=N
>
> Also, when I get junk calls on this "call sign" second number, they always 
> ask for the homeowner - I got callsign at the same time I switched the 
> line over to me, and yet these people were asking for the previous 
> occupant of the house, who never had callsign! That's weird - how did the 
> crossover happen?
>
> Anyway, I WAS actually thinking of getting a kitchen done, so if these 
> people are much of a muchness, then I might as well take a punt.
> They said they'll ring back in an hour (about 30 mins now) so any advice 
> appreciated, and if it's a "NO!" then what info can I squeeze out of them 
> to add to the anti-scam blogs?
>
> Thanks!
>
> *(on a line I registered for TPS last week, but I understand the process 
> takes longer than that, so I'm not complaining about the call, per se!)
>


Never heard of this company, but I would tend not to trust a company that 
embarked on cold-calling; a good company will get enough business from 
referals without having to resort to this desperate tactic. I would ask 
family, friends colleagues if they have any recommendations for a local 
company.

On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 16:04:54 +0100, "Jonathan" 
wrote:
<snip>


>Anyway, I WAS actually thinking of getting a kitchen done, so if these 
>people are much of a muchness, then I might as well take a punt.
>They said they'll ring back in an hour (about 30 mins now) so any advice 
>appreciated, and if it's a "NO!" then what info can I squeeze out of them to 
>add to the anti-scam blogs?
>


When are in a free (allegedly) country, do what you like.
But don't come screaming here in a few weeks that they ripped you off.

"Walter B."  wrote in message 
news:jnpoh1dgvscnkneinf7227qpgftu4f1l80@4ax.com...

> On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 16:04:54 +0100, "Jonathan" 
> wrote:
> <snip>
>
>>Anyway, I WAS actually thinking of getting a kitchen done, so if these
>>people are much of a muchness, then I might as well take a punt.
>>They said they'll ring back in an hour (about 30 mins now) so any advice
>>appreciated, and if it's a "NO!" then what info can I squeeze out of them 
>>to
>>add to the anti-scam blogs?
>>
>
> When are in a free (allegedly) country, do what you like.
> But don't come screaming here in a few weeks that they ripped you off.


Right, all responses quite conclusive then! Back to plan A which was to see 
how much of a mess I could make with some DIY units from B&Q...(any better 
suggestions?!?)

"Jonathan"  wrote in message 
news:431c694f_3@x-privat.org...

>
> Right, all responses quite conclusive then! Back to plan A which was to 
> see how much of a mess I could make with some DIY units

Wise man

> from B&Q...(any better suggestions?!?)


You'll get some!

Mary

>
> 

On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 16:04:54 +0100, "Jonathan" 
wrote:


>(Sorry about cross-posting - will explain itself as you read on)
>Just got a cold call* from a company calling themselves "Space Kitchens" 
>from Nottingham.
>A couple of things caught my attention:
>When they called, they said I'd be chosen for a free kitchen (yeah, right). 
>But when I expressed an interest, the "adviser" I got put through to said a 
>refund would come to me IF I was chosen to appear in the magazine.
>Did some more digging, found this blog:
>http://www.jonmasters.org/wordpress/index.php?p=297
>The phone number matches to one shown on this site:
>http://www.spacekitchens.co.uk/
>would you trust someone who didn't even pay the fiver or whatever to remove 
>to uk2 banner??
>But wait - looking at the frame, it points to:
>http://www.featurehomekitchens.co.uk/
>which don't have a Nottingham office, but DO have the offer they mentioned.
>I googled for them...whats this about? Hundreds and hundreds of subdomains 
>like
>oburn32 whall4 fulford96 etc etc, all pointing to the same place...
>http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=featurehomekitchens&start=40&sa=N
>
>Also, when I get junk calls on this "call sign" second number, they always 
>ask for the homeowner - I got callsign at the same time I switched the line 
>over to me, and yet these people were asking for the previous occupant of 
>the house, who never had callsign! That's weird - how did the crossover 
>happen?
>
>Anyway, I WAS actually thinking of getting a kitchen done, so if these 
>people are much of a muchness, then I might as well take a punt.
>They said they'll ring back in an hour (about 30 mins now) so any advice 
>appreciated, and if it's a "NO!" then what info can I squeeze out of them to 
>add to the anti-scam blogs?
>
>Thanks!
>
>*(on a line I registered for TPS last week, but I understand the process 
>takes longer than that, so I'm not complaining about the call, per se!) 
>

Believe me these people are not much of a muchness.  Some of them are
total cowboys.  We're talking about kitchens never dleivered, or left
half-finished, or falling to bits.  And have you ever tried living
without a kitchen? You could do worse than call Nottingham Trading
Standards to find out if anyone has expereince of Space Kitchens.
Personally I would go with the people who said don't trust cold
callers.  Check out the opinons of friends and family.

"Jonathan"  wrote in message 
news:431c5dde$1_2@x-privat.org...

> (Sorry about cross-posting - will explain itself as you read on)
> Just got a cold call* from a company calling themselves "Space Kitchens" 
> from Nottingham.
> A couple of things caught my attention:
> When they called, they said I'd be chosen for a free kitchen (yeah, 
> right). But when I expressed an interest, the "adviser" I got put through 
> to said a refund would come to me IF I was chosen to appear in the 
> magazine.
> Did some more digging, found this blog:
> http://www.jonmasters.org/wordpress/index.php?p=297
> The phone number matches to one shown on this site:
> http://www.spacekitchens.co.uk/
> would you trust someone who didn't even pay the fiver or whatever to 
> remove to uk2 banner??
> But wait - looking at the frame, it points to:
> http://www.featurehomekitchens.co.uk/
> which don't have a Nottingham office, but DO have the offer they 
> mentioned.
> I googled for them...whats this about? Hundreds and hundreds of subdomains 
> like
> oburn32 whall4 fulford96 etc etc, all pointing to the same place...
> http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=featurehomekitchens&start=40&sa=N
>
> Also, when I get junk calls on this "call sign" second number, they always 
> ask for the homeowner - I got callsign at the same time I switched the 
> line over to me, and yet these people were asking for the previous 
> occupant of the house, who never had callsign! That's weird - how did the 
> crossover happen?
>
> Anyway, I WAS actually thinking of getting a kitchen done, so if these 
> people are much of a muchness, then I might as well take a punt.
> They said they'll ring back in an hour (about 30 mins now) so any advice 
> appreciated, and if it's a "NO!" then what info can I squeeze out of them 
> to add to the anti-scam blogs?
>
> Thanks!
>
> *(on a line I registered for TPS last week, but I understand the process 
> takes longer than that, so I'm not complaining about the call, per se!)
>


Isn't it just a variation of the old 'we'll give a discount if you agree to 
show around xyz people' and the people never come, because its just another 
vehicle to get you to sign up for their over priced kitchens/upvc windows 
that are made with less than desirable specced materials and fitted by 
monkeys that barely know how to bang a hammer for their minimum wage.

Ad

On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 16:53:36 +0100, "Jonathan" 
wrote:


>
>Right, all responses quite conclusive then! Back to plan A which was to see 
>how much of a mess I could make with some DIY units from B&Q...(any better 
>suggestions?!?) 
>


Look here: www.keencost.co.uk

DG

"Jonathan"  wrote in message 
news:431c5dde$1_2@x-privat.org...

> (Sorry about cross-posting - will explain itself as you read on)
> Just got a cold call* from a company calling themselves "Space Kitchens" 
> from Nottingham.
> A couple of things caught my attention:
> When they called, they said I'd be chosen for a free kitchen (yeah, 
> right). But when I expressed an interest, the "adviser" I got put through 
> to said a refund would come to me IF I was chosen to appear in the 
> magazine.
> Did some more digging, found this blog:
> http://www.jonmasters.org/wordpress/index.php?p=297
> The phone number matches to one shown on this site:
> http://www.spacekitchens.co.uk/
> would you trust someone who didn't even pay the fiver or whatever to 
> remove to uk2 banner??
> But wait - looking at the frame, it points to:
> http://www.featurehomekitchens.co.uk/
> which don't have a Nottingham office, but DO have the offer they 
> mentioned.
> I googled for them...whats this about? Hundreds and hundreds of subdomains 
> like
> oburn32 whall4 fulford96 etc etc, all pointing to the same place...
> http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=featurehomekitchens&start=40&sa=N
>
> Also, when I get junk calls on this "call sign" second number, they always 
> ask for the homeowner - I got callsign at the same time I switched the 
> line over to me, and yet these people were asking for the previous 
> occupant of the house, who never had callsign! That's weird - how did the 
> crossover happen?
>
> Anyway, I WAS actually thinking of getting a kitchen done, so if these 
> people are much of a muchness, then I might as well take a punt.
> They said they'll ring back in an hour (about 30 mins now) so any advice 
> appreciated, and if it's a "NO!" then what info can I squeeze out of them 
> to add to the anti-scam blogs?
>
> Thanks!
>
> *(on a line I registered for TPS last week, but I understand the process 
> takes longer than that, so I'm not complaining about the call, per se!)
>


Never heard of this company, but I would tend not to trust a company that 
embarked on cold-calling; a good company will get enough business from 
referals without having to resort to this desperate tactic. I would ask 
family, friends colleagues if they have any recommendations for a local 
company.

On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 16:04:54 +0100, "Jonathan" 
wrote:
<snip>


>Anyway, I WAS actually thinking of getting a kitchen done, so if these 
>people are much of a muchness, then I might as well take a punt.
>They said they'll ring back in an hour (about 30 mins now) so any advice 
>appreciated, and if it's a "NO!" then what info can I squeeze out of them to 
>add to the anti-scam blogs?
>


When are in a free (allegedly) country, do what you like.
But don't come screaming here in a few weeks that they ripped you off.

"Walter B."  wrote in message 
news:jnpoh1dgvscnkneinf7227qpgftu4f1l80@4ax.com...

> On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 16:04:54 +0100, "Jonathan" 
> wrote:
> <snip>
>
>>Anyway, I WAS actually thinking of getting a kitchen done, so if these
>>people are much of a muchness, then I might as well take a punt.
>>They said they'll ring back in an hour (about 30 mins now) so any advice
>>appreciated, and if it's a "NO!" then what info can I squeeze out of them 
>>to
>>add to the anti-scam blogs?
>>
>
> When are in a free (allegedly) country, do what you like.
> But don't come screaming here in a few weeks that they ripped you off.


Right, all responses quite conclusive then! Back to plan A which was to see 
how much of a mess I could make with some DIY units from B&Q...(any better 
suggestions?!?)

"Jonathan"  wrote in message 
news:431c694f_3@x-privat.org...

>
> Right, all responses quite conclusive then! Back to plan A which was to 
> see how much of a mess I could make with some DIY units

Wise man

> from B&Q...(any better suggestions?!?)


You'll get some!

Mary

>
> 

"Jonathan"  wrote in message 
news:431c5dde$1_2@x-privat.org...

> (Sorry about cross-posting - will explain itself as you read on)
> Just got a cold call* from a company calling themselves "Space Kitchens" 
> from Nottingham.
> A couple of things caught my attention:
> When they called, they said I'd be chosen for a free kitchen (yeah, 
> right). But when I expressed an interest, the "adviser" I got put through 
> to said a refund would come to me IF I was chosen to appear in the 
> magazine.
> Did some more digging, found this blog:
> http://www.jonmasters.org/wordpress/index.php?p=297
> The phone number matches to one shown on this site:
> http://www.spacekitchens.co.uk/
> would you trust someone who didn't even pay the fiver or whatever to 
> remove to uk2 banner??
> But wait - looking at the frame, it points to:
> http://www.featurehomekitchens.co.uk/
> which don't have a Nottingham office, but DO have the offer they 
> mentioned.
> I googled for them...whats this about? Hundreds and hundreds of subdomains 
> like
> oburn32 whall4 fulford96 etc etc, all pointing to the same place...
> http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=featurehomekitchens&start=40&sa=N
>
> Also, when I get junk calls on this "call sign" second number, they always 
> ask for the homeowner - I got callsign at the same time I switched the 
> line over to me, and yet these people were asking for the previous 
> occupant of the house, who never had callsign! That's weird - how did the 
> crossover happen?
>
> Anyway, I WAS actually thinking of getting a kitchen done, so if these 
> people are much of a muchness, then I might as well take a punt.
> They said they'll ring back in an hour (about 30 mins now) so any advice 
> appreciated, and if it's a "NO!" then what info can I squeeze out of them 
> to add to the anti-scam blogs?
>
> Thanks!
>
> *(on a line I registered for TPS last week, but I understand the process 
> takes longer than that, so I'm not complaining about the call, per se!)
>


Isn't it just a variation of the old 'we'll give a discount if you agree to 
show around xyz people' and the people never come, because its just another 
vehicle to get you to sign up for their over priced kitchens/upvc windows 
that are made with less than desirable specced materials and fitted by 
monkeys that barely know how to bang a hammer for their minimum wage.

Ad

On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 16:53:36 +0100, "Jonathan" 
wrote:


>
>Right, all responses quite conclusive then! Back to plan A which was to see 
>how much of a mess I could make with some DIY units from B&Q...(any better 
>suggestions?!?) 
>


Look here: www.keencost.co.uk

DG