The lodger has left.

I stuck a cheap camera in the computer room and connected it to the VCR in 
my bedroom. After recording her in the computer room going through all the 
desk drawers and paper files I then moved the camera to my bedroom and 
recorded her looking through all drawers, cupboards and wardrobes.

I gave her 3 hours notice to leave. The bond I have will cover cost of the 
change of door locks.

Adam

> The lodger has left.
> I gave her 3 hours notice to leave. The bond I have will cover cost of the 
> change of door locks.


Congrats !

What was her response when you told her what you`d done ?

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"Colin Wilson"  wrote in message 
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>> The lodger has left.
>> I gave her 3 hours notice to leave. The bond I have will cover cost of 
>> the
>> change of door locks.
>
> Congrats !
>
> What was her response when you told her what you`d done ?


Silence. She walked out leaving all her stuff and has gone to stop at her 
friends house.

Adam

ARWadsworth wrote:

> "Colin Wilson"  wrote in message
> news:MPG.1d858d6e52c924ae98b3dc@news.individual.net...
>>> The lodger has left.
>>> I gave her 3 hours notice to leave. The bond I have will cover cost
>>> of the
>>> change of door locks.
>>
>> Congrats !
>>
>> What was her response when you told her what you`d done ?
>
> Silence. She walked out leaving all her stuff and has gone to stop at
> her friends house.
>


She'll try to have you for invasion of privacy and illegal monitoring, you 
wait and see :)

Si

On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 08:46:22 +0100, "Mungo \"two sheds\" Toadfoot"
 wrote:


>She'll try to have you for invasion of privacy and illegal monitoring, you 
>wait and see :)


Surely "the camera was there to ensure the safety of the tenants"?

If she were to complain the landlord could merely point out all the
valuable and rare objects that he'd had stolen over the previous few
months....the tenant would have to prove it wasn't them that was
taking the stuff...

Give the ex-tenant 2 weeks in writing to remove her stuff. Once the
two weeks have passed you can dispose of it how you like.
 
sponix

On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 22:57:56 GMT, "ARWadsworth"
 wrote:


>The lodger has left.
>
>I stuck a cheap camera in the computer room and connected it to the VCR in 
>my bedroom. After recording her in the computer room going through all the 
>desk drawers and paper files I then moved the camera to my bedroom and 
>recorded her looking through all drawers, cupboards and wardrobes.
>
>I gave her 3 hours notice to leave. The bond I have will cover cost of the 
>change of door locks.
>
>Adam 
>


Well done! I first read "moved the camera to her bedroom". I'm
becoming an old pervert :-). Might have been fun though!!

I wonder what she was looking for...did you ask her?

Mr F.

On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 11:22:14 +0100, Mr Fizzion wrote:


> On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 22:57:56 GMT, "ARWadsworth"
>  wrote:
> 
>>The lodger has left.
>>
>>I stuck a cheap camera in the computer room and connected it to the VCR in 
>>my bedroom. After recording her in the computer room going through all the 
>>desk drawers and paper files I then moved the camera to my bedroom and 
>>recorded her looking through all drawers, cupboards and wardrobes.
>>
>>I gave her 3 hours notice to leave. The bond I have will cover cost of the 
>>change of door locks.
>>
>>Adam 
>>
> 
> Well done! I first read "moved the camera to her bedroom". I'm
> becoming an old pervert :-). Might have been fun though!!
> 
> I wonder what she was looking for...did you ask her?
> 

ISTR there was a case like that a few back. Where the Landlord decided to
monitor the tenants bedroom activities with a CCTV camera. 

I think the whole matter came to court and the Judge (obviously) deemed
that the tenants had not recieved 'the quite enjoyment of the flat'. The
pervy Landlord was ordered to pay a large sum to the tenants in
compensation. IIRC comparable with the rent received during the tenancy. 



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Ed Sirett wrote:

> On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 11:22:14 +0100, Mr Fizzion wrote:
> 
> 
>>On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 22:57:56 GMT, "ARWadsworth"
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>The lodger has left.
>>>
>>>I stuck a cheap camera in the computer room and connected it to the VCR in 
>>>my bedroom. After recording her in the computer room going through all the 
>>>desk drawers and paper files I then moved the camera to my bedroom and 
>>>recorded her looking through all drawers, cupboards and wardrobes.
>>>
>>>I gave her 3 hours notice to leave. The bond I have will cover cost of the 
>>>change of door locks.
>>>
>>>Adam 
>>>
>>
>>Well done! I first read "moved the camera to her bedroom". I'm
>>becoming an old pervert :-). Might have been fun though!!
>>
>>I wonder what she was looking for...did you ask her?
>>
> 
> ISTR there was a case like that a few back. Where the Landlord decided to
> monitor the tenants bedroom activities with a CCTV camera. 
> 
> I think the whole matter came to court and the Judge (obviously) deemed
> that the tenants had not recieved 'the quite enjoyment of the flat'. The
> pervy Landlord was ordered to pay a large sum to the tenants in
> compensation. IIRC comparable with the rent received during the tenancy. 
> 
> 
> 

The laws relating to lodgers are quite different from those relating to 
rented accomodation where the tenant is in sole possession.

Yiu can't just sling someone out of rented acc. but you can sling a 
lodger out.

s--p--o--n--i--x wrote:

>>She'll try to have you for invasion of privacy and illegal monitoring, you 
>>wait and see :)
> 
> 
> Surely "the camera was there to ensure the safety of the tenants"?


But the DPA requires that CCTV usage is signposted "Images are being 
recorded for the detection of crime blah blah"... Don't know if this is 
required in this situation?


> If she were to complain the landlord could merely point out all the
> valuable and rare objects that he'd had stolen over the previous few
> months....the tenant would have to prove it wasn't them that was
> taking the stuff...


No, innocent until proven guilty.

alex.

Alex wrote:


> But the DPA requires that CCTV usage is signposted "Images are being


The most relevant bit is; "...I then moved the camera to my
bedroom...". The lodger wasn't invited into the OP's bedroom & if he
wants cameras in his bedroom, that's his business.

On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 16:02:28 +0100, Alex <aejm+nospam@kent.ac.uk>
wrote:


>s--p--o--n--i--x wrote:

>> If she were to complain the landlord could merely point out all the
>> valuable and rare objects that he'd had stolen over the previous few
>> months....the tenant would have to prove it wasn't them that was
>> taking the stuff...
>
>No, innocent until proven guilty.


But..if she believes stuff has been stolen she'll obviously assume
she'd be prime suspect in any subsequent Police investigation!

She'd therefore be unlikely to kick up a fuss as the last thing she'd
want is to be dragged in for questioning whether guilty or not.

sponix

> She'll try to have you for invasion of privacy and illegal monitoring, you
> wait and see :)


Surely you can monitor your own bedroom?

Christian.

On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 16:35:57 UTC, "Christian McArdle" 
 wrote:


> > She'll try to have you for invasion of privacy and illegal monitoring, you
> > wait and see :)
> 
> Surely you can monitor your own bedroom?


And he always has the defence that he is in fact a perve, and likes to 
have a camera in his bedroom...it's her fault she was noticed by it!

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On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 17:35:57 +0100, "Christian McArdle"
 wrote:


>> She'll try to have you for invasion of privacy and illegal monitoring, you
>> wait and see :)
>
>Surely you can monitor your own bedroom?
>
>Christian.


Depends who else is sleeping there and if they know! :-)

Mr F.

Christian McArdle wrote:

>>She'll try to have you for invasion of privacy and illegal monitoring, you
>>wait and see :)
> 
> 
> Surely you can monitor your own bedroom?


More important surely is that she was invading his privacy in the first 
place.


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"s--p--o--n--i--x"  wrote in message 
news:431c02f1.2869125@news.individual.net...

> On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 08:46:22 +0100, "Mungo \"two sheds\" Toadfoot"
>  wrote:
>
>>She'll try to have you for invasion of privacy and illegal monitoring, you
>>wait and see :)
>
> Surely "the camera was there to ensure the safety of the tenants"?
>
> If she were to complain the landlord could merely point out all the
> valuable and rare objects that he'd had stolen over the previous few
> months....the tenant would have to prove it wasn't them that was
> taking the stuff...
>
> Give the ex-tenant 2 weeks in writing to remove her stuff. Once the
> two weeks have passed you can dispose of it how you like.


I have no idea where her friend lives so I cannot write to her. I suppose 
some pervert may buy her knickers on eBay (I do belive that used ones are 
worth more according to my spam trap folder). I could keep the mobile 
phones, laptop, DVD player, DVDs, TV and the X-Box that she has left.

Adam

"Mr F" <wankel@rotary.engine> wrote in message 
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> On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 17:35:57 +0100, "Christian McArdle"
>  wrote:
>
>>> She'll try to have you for invasion of privacy and illegal monitoring, 
>>> you
>>> wait and see :)
>>
>>Surely you can monitor your own bedroom?
>>
>>Christian.
>
> Depends who else is sleeping there and if they know! :-)
>

Not sleeping but snooping.

Adam

On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 17:56:57 UTC, "ARWadsworth" 
 wrote:


> I have no idea where her friend lives so I cannot write to her. I suppose 
> some pervert may buy her knickers on eBay (I do belive that used ones are 
> worth more according to my spam trap folder).


If there are any that aren't used, wear them for a day...!

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"ARWadsworth"  wrote in message
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>
> "s--p--o--n--i--x"  wrote in message
> news:431c02f1.2869125@news.individual.net...
> > On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 08:46:22 +0100, "Mungo \"two sheds\" Toadfoot"
> >  wrote:
> >
<snip>
> I have no idea where her friend lives so I cannot write to her. I suppose
> some pervert may buy her knickers on eBay (I do belive that used ones are
> worth more according to my spam trap folder). I could keep the mobile
> phones, laptop, DVD player, DVDs, TV and the X-Box that she has left.
>
> Adam
>
>

==================
Just a thought.....

In view of the lady's peculiar habits it's possible that the items you've
listed were stolen by her.  It might be worth reporting the facts to the
police to ensure that you're not caught in possession of stolen property.

Cic.

"Cicero"  wrote in message 
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>
> "ARWadsworth"  wrote in message
> news:JF%Se.102933$G8.66316@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>
>> "s--p--o--n--i--x"  wrote in message
>> news:431c02f1.2869125@news.individual.net...
>> > On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 08:46:22 +0100, "Mungo \"two sheds\" Toadfoot"
>> >  wrote:
>> >
> <snip>
>> I have no idea where her friend lives so I cannot write to her. I suppose
>> some pervert may buy her knickers on eBay (I do belive that used ones are
>> worth more according to my spam trap folder). I could keep the mobile
>> phones, laptop, DVD player, DVDs, TV and the X-Box that she has left.
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
> ==================
> Just a thought.....
>
> In view of the lady's peculiar habits it's possible that the items you've
> listed were stolen by her.  It might be worth reporting the facts to the
> police to ensure that you're not caught in possession of stolen property.
>
> Cic.


A good point.

Thank you.

Adam

In article <dfhmm4$rs9$1@oheron.kent.ac.uk>, aejm+nospam@kent.ac.uk 
says...


> But the DPA requires that CCTV usage is signposted "Images are being 
> recorded for the detection of crime blah blah"... Don't know if this is 
> required in this situation?


No, data processed only for personal, family or household affairs are 
exempt from the DPA.

David

On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 15:02:28 UTC, Alex <aejm+nospam@kent.ac.uk> wrote:


> But the DPA requires that CCTV usage is signposted "Images are being 
> recorded for the detection of crime blah blah"... Don't know if this is 
> required in this situation?


No, it isn't. Such use doesn't even come under the DPA.

<http://www.informationcommissioner.gov.uk/eventual.aspx?pg=SR&cID=5740>

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"Mr Fizzion" <wankel@rotary.engine> wrote in message 
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> On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 22:57:56 GMT, "ARWadsworth"
>  wrote:
>
>>The lodger has left.
>>
>>I stuck a cheap camera in the computer room and connected it to the VCR in
>>my bedroom. After recording her in the computer room going through all the
>>desk drawers and paper files I then moved the camera to my bedroom and
>>recorded her looking through all drawers, cupboards and wardrobes.
>>
>>I gave her 3 hours notice to leave. The bond I have will cover cost of the
>>change of door locks.
>>
>>Adam
>>
>
> Well done! I first read "moved the camera to her bedroom". I'm
> becoming an old pervert :-). Might have been fun though!!
>
> I wonder what she was looking for...did you ask her?
>


She just walked out saying nothing.

Adam

"The Natural Philosopher" <A@b.c> wrote in message 
news:1125926725.16113.0@nnrp-t71-03.news.uk.clara.net...

> Ed Sirett wrote:
>> On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 11:22:14 +0100, Mr Fizzion wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 22:57:56 GMT, "ARWadsworth"
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>The lodger has left.
>>>>
>>>>I stuck a cheap camera in the computer room and connected it to the VCR 
>>>>in my bedroom. After recording her in the computer room going through 
>>>>all the desk drawers and paper files I then moved the camera to my 
>>>>bedroom and recorded her looking through all drawers, cupboards and 
>>>>wardrobes.
>>>>
>>>>I gave her 3 hours notice to leave. The bond I have will cover cost of 
>>>>the change of door locks.
>>>>
>>>>Adam
>>>
>>>Well done! I first read "moved the camera to her bedroom". I'm
>>>becoming an old pervert :-). Might have been fun though!!
>>>
>>>I wonder what she was looking for...did you ask her?
>>>
>>
>> ISTR there was a case like that a few back. Where the Landlord decided to
>> monitor the tenants bedroom activities with a CCTV camera. I think the 
>> whole matter came to court and the Judge (obviously) deemed
>> that the tenants had not recieved 'the quite enjoyment of the flat'. The
>> pervy Landlord was ordered to pay a large sum to the tenants in
>> compensation. IIRC comparable with the rent received during the tenancy.
> The laws relating to lodgers are quite different from those relating to 
> rented accomodation where the tenant is in sole possession.
>
> Yiu can't just sling someone out of rented acc. but you can sling a lodger 
> out.


There was no contract other than a verbal one so no problem in slinging her 
out. I suppose another one will turn up. They frequently do. It is just that 
she was the first to take the piss.

Adam