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Whats the best way to deal with ants in our garden ?.

We've tried the usual powdered products, but they keep coming back.

TIA

woodglass....
Date:Sun, 04 Sep 2005 09:54:35 GMT   Author:  

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"johnnybegood"  wrote in message 
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> Whats the best way to deal with ants in our garden ?.
>
> We've tried the usual powdered products, but they keep coming back.
>
> TIA
>
> woodglass....

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Why not tell the wasps that the ants are "moving in ".............
...............................................................................................I'll 
get my coat !


Barry>

>
> 
Date:Sun, 4 Sep 2005 11:00:24 +0100   Author:  

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"bs"  wrote in message
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> "johnnybegood"  wrote in message
> news:vvzSe.11488$hv5.8049@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> > Whats the best way to deal with ants in our garden ?.
> >
> > We've tried the usual powdered products, but they keep coming back.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > woodglass....
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------

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>
> Why not tell the wasps that the ants are "moving in ".............
>

.............................................................................
...................I'll

> get my coat !



I don't think that wasps understand English - I've already askd them to
leave !   :-))

woodglass....




>
>
> Barry>
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Date:Sun, 04 Sep 2005 10:07:27 GMT   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
johnnybegood wrote:

> Whats the best way to deal with ants in our garden ?.
> 
> We've tried the usual powdered products, but they keep coming back.
> 
> TIA
> 
> woodglass....
> 
> 
> 

Find the nest(s), dig it out (preferably whilst the b****rs are not 
active), and burn it in a bin.

That said, it's difficult to find the whole nest, dig the whole thing 
out, and make sure none of the critters escape burning.

Worked for me the one time I did it, and it was a "small" nest, approx 
..5 cu metres
Date:Sun, 04 Sep 2005 11:17:29 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
"bs"  wrote in message
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>
>
>
> "johnnybegood"  wrote in message
> news:vvzSe.11488$hv5.8049@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> > Whats the best way to deal with ants in our garden ?.
> >
> > We've tried the usual powdered products, but they keep coming back.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > woodglass....
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------

----------------------------------------

>
> Why not tell the wasps that the ants are "moving in ".............
>

.............................................................................
...................I'll

> get my coat !



I don't think that wasps understand English - I've already askd them to
leave !   :-))

woodglass....




>
>
> Barry>
> >
> >
>
>
Date:Sun, 04 Sep 2005 10:07:27 GMT   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
johnnybegood wrote:

> Whats the best way to deal with ants in our garden ?.
> 
> We've tried the usual powdered products, but they keep coming back.
> 
> TIA
> 
> woodglass....
> 
> 
> 

Find the nest(s), dig it out (preferably whilst the b****rs are not 
active), and burn it in a bin.

That said, it's difficult to find the whole nest, dig the whole thing 
out, and make sure none of the critters escape burning.

Worked for me the one time I did it, and it was a "small" nest, approx 
..5 cu metres
Date:Sun, 04 Sep 2005 11:17:29 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
"johnnybegood"  wrote in message 
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> Whats the best way to deal with ants in our garden ?.
>
> We've tried the usual powdered products, but they keep coming back.
>
> TIA
>
> woodglass....
>
>
>


You can't stop them. Well not at least permanently. That's why they've been 
on this planet longer then us.
Date:Sun, 4 Sep 2005 11:23:34 +0100   Author:  

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"johnnybegood"  wrote in message 
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> "bs"  wrote in message
> news:svCdnaUF0O_EWIfeRVnygQ@brightview.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "johnnybegood"  wrote in message
>> news:vvzSe.11488$hv5.8049@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> > Whats the best way to deal with ants in our garden ?.
>> >
>> > We've tried the usual powdered products, but they keep coming back.
>> >
>> > TIA
>> >
>> > woodglass....
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------------------------------------
>>
>> Why not tell the wasps that the ants are "moving in ".............
>>
> ............................................................................
> ..................I'll
>> get my coat !
>
>
> I don't think that wasps understand English - I've already askd them to
> leave !   :-))
>
> woodglass....

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That's your problem .you cant  expect all  wasps to understand English !!!!! 
Sounds to me like they could be a European variety.
Probably illegal immigrants I expect.

Barry
Date:Sun, 4 Sep 2005 12:02:04 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
johnnybegood wrote:

> Whats the best way to deal with ants in our garden ?.
>
> We've tried the usual powdered products, but they keep coming back.
>
> TIA
>
> woodglass....


You need your Aunts. :-)
Date:Sun, 04 Sep 2005 11:10:44 GMT   Author:  

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"johnnybegood"  wrote in message 
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>
> "bs"  wrote in message
> news:svCdnaUF0O_EWIfeRVnygQ@brightview.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "johnnybegood"  wrote in message
>> news:vvzSe.11488$hv5.8049@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> > Whats the best way to deal with ants in our garden ?.
>> >
>> > We've tried the usual powdered products, but they keep coming back.
>> >
>> > TIA
>> >
>> > woodglass....
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------------------------------------
>>
>> Why not tell the wasps that the ants are "moving in ".............
>>
> ............................................................................
> ..................I'll
>> get my coat !
>
>
> I don't think that wasps understand English - I've already askd them to
> leave !   :-))
>
> woodglass....

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

That's your problem .you cant  expect all  wasps to understand English !!!!! 
Sounds to me like they could be a European variety.
Probably illegal immigrants I expect.

Barry
Date:Sun, 4 Sep 2005 12:02:04 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
johnnybegood wrote:

> Whats the best way to deal with ants in our garden ?.
>
> We've tried the usual powdered products, but they keep coming back.
>
> TIA
>
> woodglass....


You need your Aunts. :-)
Date:Sun, 04 Sep 2005 11:10:44 GMT   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
"ben"  wrote in message
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> johnnybegood wrote:
> > Whats the best way to deal with ants in our garden ?.
> >
> > We've tried the usual powdered products, but they keep coming back.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > woodglass....
>
> You need your Aunts. :-)



My Aunts what ????.



>
>
Date:Sun, 04 Sep 2005 11:12:15 GMT   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
"ben"  wrote in message
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> johnnybegood wrote:
> > Whats the best way to deal with ants in our garden ?.
> >
> > We've tried the usual powdered products, but they keep coming back.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > woodglass....
>
> You need your Aunts. :-)



My Aunts what ????.



>
>
Date:Sun, 04 Sep 2005 11:12:15 GMT   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
"johnnybegood"  wrote in message
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> Whats the best way to deal with ants in our garden ?.
>
> We've tried the usual powdered products, but they keep coming back.
>
> TIA
>
> woodglass....
>
>

napalm the garden dig all the grass up then lay green concrete, the put your
feet up with a nice chilled beer to admire the work you've done.
Date:Sun, 4 Sep 2005 13:15:18 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
"johnnybegood"  wrote in message
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> Whats the best way to deal with ants in our garden ?.
>
> We've tried the usual powdered products, but they keep coming back.
>
> TIA
>
> woodglass....
>
>

napalm the garden dig all the grass up then lay green concrete, the put your
feet up with a nice chilled beer to admire the work you've done.
Date:Sun, 4 Sep 2005 13:15:18 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
"reg"  wrote in message
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>
> "johnnybegood"  wrote in message
> news:vvzSe.11488$hv5.8049@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> > Whats the best way to deal with ants in our garden ?.
> >
> > We've tried the usual powdered products, but they keep coming back.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > woodglass....
> >
> >
> napalm the garden dig all the grass up then lay green concrete, the put
your
> feet up with a nice chilled beer to admire the work you've done.
>
>


Have already drank all the beer thinking about what to do !!!   :-)
Date:Sun, 04 Sep 2005 13:16:08 GMT   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
"reg"  wrote in message
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>
> "johnnybegood"  wrote in message
> news:vvzSe.11488$hv5.8049@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> > Whats the best way to deal with ants in our garden ?.
> >
> > We've tried the usual powdered products, but they keep coming back.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > woodglass....
> >
> >
> napalm the garden dig all the grass up then lay green concrete, the put
your
> feet up with a nice chilled beer to admire the work you've done.
>
>


Have already drank all the beer thinking about what to do !!!   :-)
Date:Sun, 04 Sep 2005 13:16:08 GMT   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
"RedOnRed"  wrote in message 
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>
> "johnnybegood"  wrote in message 
> news:vvzSe.11488$hv5.8049@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> Whats the best way to deal with ants in our garden ?.
>>
>> We've tried the usual powdered products, but they keep coming back.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> woodglass....
>>
>>
>>
>
> You can't stop them. Well not at least permanently. That's why they've 
> been on this planet longer then us.


Right.

Mary

>
> 
Date:Sun, 4 Sep 2005 14:30:18 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
In message <zHzSe.11490$hv5.9636@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, 
johnnybegood  writes

>>
>> Why not tell the wasps that the ants are "moving in ".............
>>
>............................................................................
>..................I'll
>> get my coat !
>
>
>I don't think that wasps understand English - I've already askd them to
>leave !   :-))
>


Don't you know,

everyone understands English if you just shout loud enough

-- 
geoff
Date:Sun, 04 Sep 2005 16:08:50 GMT   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
In message , Ian Cornish 
<"icornish at talk21 dot com"@?.?.invalid> writes

>johnnybegood wrote:
>> Whats the best way to deal with ants in our garden ?.
>>  We've tried the usual powdered products, but they keep coming back.
>>  TIA
>>  woodglass....
>>
>Find the nest(s), dig it out (preferably whilst the b****rs are not 
>active), and burn it in a bin.
>
>That said, it's difficult to find the whole nest, dig the whole thing 
>out, and make sure none of the critters escape burning.
>
>Worked for me the one time I did it, and it was a "small" nest, approx 
>.5 cu metres


Well I got rid of one which had created a dome in the lawn by pouring 
half a pint of cellulose thinners down one of the access holes and 
setting fire to it

Somehow it worked


-- 
geoff
Date:Sun, 04 Sep 2005 16:08:51 GMT   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
In message <zHzSe.11490$hv5.9636@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, 
johnnybegood  writes

>>
>> Why not tell the wasps that the ants are "moving in ".............
>>
>............................................................................
>..................I'll
>> get my coat !
>
>
>I don't think that wasps understand English - I've already askd them to
>leave !   :-))
>


Don't you know,

everyone understands English if you just shout loud enough

-- 
geoff
Date:Sun, 04 Sep 2005 16:08:50 GMT   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
In message , Ian Cornish 
<"icornish at talk21 dot com"@?.?.invalid> writes

>johnnybegood wrote:
>> Whats the best way to deal with ants in our garden ?.
>>  We've tried the usual powdered products, but they keep coming back.
>>  TIA
>>  woodglass....
>>
>Find the nest(s), dig it out (preferably whilst the b****rs are not 
>active), and burn it in a bin.
>
>That said, it's difficult to find the whole nest, dig the whole thing 
>out, and make sure none of the critters escape burning.
>
>Worked for me the one time I did it, and it was a "small" nest, approx 
>.5 cu metres


Well I got rid of one which had created a dome in the lawn by pouring 
half a pint of cellulose thinners down one of the access holes and 
setting fire to it

Somehow it worked


-- 
geoff
Date:Sun, 04 Sep 2005 16:08:51 GMT   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
"raden"  wrote in message 
news:Uh++UqJ6WxGDFwXH@ntlworld.com...

> In message <zHzSe.11490$hv5.9636@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, johnnybegood 
>  writes
>>>
>>> Why not tell the wasps that the ants are "moving in ".............
>>>
>>............................................................................
>>..................I'll
>>> get my coat !
>>
>>
>>I don't think that wasps understand English - I've already askd them to
>>leave !   :-))
>>
>
> Don't you know,
>
> everyone understands English if you just shout loud enough


Don't you wave your arms as well?

People do that when they're on their mobiles. In fact some folk are dumb if 
they can't use their arms.

Mray

>
> -- 
> geoff 
Date:Sun, 4 Sep 2005 17:25:06 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
In message <431b1fbd$0$12562$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net>, Mary
Fisher  writes

>>>
>>
>> Don't you know,
>>
>> everyone understands English if you just shout loud enough
>
>Don't you wave your arms as well?
>
>People do that when they're on their mobiles. In fact some folk are dumb if
>they can't use their arms.
>
>Mray
>>

 Mray ?

I remember years ago in candid camera or something, they made some
Italians describe a spiral staircase without moving their hands

.... it was painful to watch

-- 
geoff
Date:Sun, 04 Sep 2005 16:40:02 GMT   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
johnnybegood wrote:


> "ben"  wrote in message
> news:UCASe.102110$G8.44280@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> 
>>johnnybegood wrote:
>>
>>>Whats the best way to deal with ants in our garden ?.
>>>
>>>We've tried the usual powdered products, but they keep coming back.
>>>
>>>TIA
>>>
>>>woodglass....
>>
>>You need your Aunts. :-)
> 
> 
> 
> My Aunts what ????.


It was plural, not possessive  :-)

Dave
Date:Sun, 4 Sep 2005 17:24:51 +0000 (UTC)   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
johnnybegood wrote:


> Whats the best way to deal with ants in our garden ?.


I have to ask first, why do you want to get rid of them.

My wife is always going on about the number of ants in our back garden. 
I look at the problem thus, as they do not bother me, I will not bother 
them.

However, if they are crawling all over you, the best thing that I have 
found on the market is 'Ant Bait'. Made by Nippon. The only problem with 
using it is that it must be kept dry. It comes in a plastic pack with 
holes for the ants to enter and take the bait. When they take it back to 
the nest, the nest gets killed.

I have successfully used it both at the school I work at and my home. 
Put the packs down and about 7 to 10 days later, no more ants.

So you could try using these ant bait packs, if you can keep them 
covered from the rain, but accessible to the ants. They last for about 3 
months maximum.

HTH

Dave
Date:Sun, 4 Sep 2005 17:34:48 +0000 (UTC)   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
johnnybegood wrote:


> "ben"  wrote in message
> news:UCASe.102110$G8.44280@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> 
>>johnnybegood wrote:
>>
>>>Whats the best way to deal with ants in our garden ?.
>>>
>>>We've tried the usual powdered products, but they keep coming back.
>>>
>>>TIA
>>>
>>>woodglass....
>>
>>You need your Aunts. :-)
> 
> 
> 
> My Aunts what ????.


It was plural, not possessive  :-)

Dave
Date:Sun, 4 Sep 2005 17:24:51 +0000 (UTC)   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
johnnybegood wrote:


> Whats the best way to deal with ants in our garden ?.


I have to ask first, why do you want to get rid of them.

My wife is always going on about the number of ants in our back garden. 
I look at the problem thus, as they do not bother me, I will not bother 
them.

However, if they are crawling all over you, the best thing that I have 
found on the market is 'Ant Bait'. Made by Nippon. The only problem with 
using it is that it must be kept dry. It comes in a plastic pack with 
holes for the ants to enter and take the bait. When they take it back to 
the nest, the nest gets killed.

I have successfully used it both at the school I work at and my home. 
Put the packs down and about 7 to 10 days later, no more ants.

So you could try using these ant bait packs, if you can keep them 
covered from the rain, but accessible to the ants. They last for about 3 
months maximum.

HTH

Dave
Date:Sun, 4 Sep 2005 17:34:48 +0000 (UTC)   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
"raden"  wrote in message 
news:IU2pZsRZLyGDFwHa@ntlworld.com...

> In message <431b1fbd$0$12562$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net>, Mary
> Fisher  writes
>>>>
>>>
>>> Don't you know,
>>>
>>> everyone understands English if you just shout loud enough
>>
>>Don't you wave your arms as well?
>>
>>People do that when they're on their mobiles. In fact some folk are dumb 
>>if
>>they can't use their arms.
>>
>>Mray
>>>
> Mray ?


That was for the benefit of those among us who claim to be dyslexic.

>
> I remember years ago in candid camera or something, they made some
> Italians describe a spiral staircase without moving their hands
>
> ... it was painful to watch


Could you do it?

Mary
Date:Sun, 4 Sep 2005 19:50:55 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
"Dave"  wrote in message
news:dffb7o$eug$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...

> johnnybegood wrote:
>
>> Whats the best way to deal with ants in our garden ?.
>
> I have to ask first, why do you want to get rid of them.


It's obvious. It's because he doesn't want to confuse them with apostrophes.

Mary
Date:Sun, 4 Sep 2005 19:52:45 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
In message <431b41ec$0$31495$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net>, Mary 
Fisher  writes

>
>"raden"  wrote in message
>news:IU2pZsRZLyGDFwHa@ntlworld.com...
>> In message <431b1fbd$0$12562$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net>, Mary
>> Fisher  writes
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Don't you know,
>>>>
>>>> everyone understands English if you just shout loud enough
>>>
>>>Don't you wave your arms as well?
>>>
>>>People do that when they're on their mobiles. In fact some folk are dumb
>>>if
>>>they can't use their arms.
>>>
>>>Mray
>>>>
>> Mray ?
>
>That was for the benefit of those among us who claim to be dyslexic.
>>
>> I remember years ago in candid camera or something, they made some
>> Italians describe a spiral staircase without moving their hands
>>
>> ... it was painful to watch
>
>Could you do it?
>

Of course, I'm a complete sadist

-- 
geoff
Date:Sun, 04 Sep 2005 18:58:13 GMT   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
"Dave"  wrote in message 
news:dffb7o$eug$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...

> johnnybegood wrote:
>
>> Whats the best way to deal with ants in our garden ?.
>
> I have to ask first, why do you want to get rid of them.
>
> My wife is always going on about the number of ants in our back garden. I 
> look at the problem thus, as they do not bother me, I will not bother 
> them.
>
> However, if they are crawling all over you, the best thing that I have 
> found on the market is 'Ant Bait'. Made by Nippon. The only problem with 
> using it is that it must be kept dry. It comes in a plastic pack with 
> holes for the ants to enter and take the bait. When they take it back to 
> the nest, the nest gets killed.
>
> I have successfully used it both at the school I work at and my home. Put 
> the packs down and about 7 to 10 days later, no more ants.
>
> So you could try using these ant bait packs, if you can keep them covered 
> from the rain, but accessible to the ants. They last for about 3 months 
> maximum.
>
> HTH
>
> Dave


Hardly a revelation. That product's been around longer then Bovril. I had a 
builder round a few months ago that went on for 15 minutes about how great 
it was, even though I kept on saying I know and i've used it loads of times 
every few seconds.

We've all used it (Nippon) at some time or other haven't we?
Date:Sun, 4 Sep 2005 20:28:52 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
"raden"  wrote in message 
news:C$XbDclfN0GDFwlm@ntlworld.com...

> In message <431b41ec$0$31495$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net>, Mary Fisher 
>  writes
>>
>>"raden"  wrote in message
>>news:IU2pZsRZLyGDFwHa@ntlworld.com...
>>> In message <431b1fbd$0$12562$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net>, Mary
>>> Fisher  writes
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't you know,
>>>>>
>>>>> everyone understands English if you just shout loud enough
>>>>
>>>>Don't you wave your arms as well?
>>>>
>>>>People do that when they're on their mobiles. In fact some folk are dumb
>>>>if
>>>>they can't use their arms.
>>>>
>>>>Mray
>>>>>
>>> Mray ?
>>
>>That was for the benefit of those among us who claim to be dyslexic.
>>>
>>> I remember years ago in candid camera or something, they made some
>>> Italians describe a spiral staircase without moving their hands
>>>
>>> ... it was painful to watch
>>
>>Could you do it?
>>
> Of course, I'm a complete sadist


Wouldn't cause me pain. Are you a masochist too?

:-)

Mary

>
> -- 
> geoff 
Date:Sun, 4 Sep 2005 20:29:56 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
"Mary Fisher"  wrote in message 
news:431b41ec$0$31495$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net...

>
> "raden"  wrote in message 
> news:IU2pZsRZLyGDFwHa@ntlworld.com...
>> In message <431b1fbd$0$12562$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net>, Mary
>> Fisher  writes
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Don't you know,
>>>>
>>>> everyone understands English if you just shout loud enough
>>>
>>>Don't you wave your arms as well?
>>>
>>>People do that when they're on their mobiles. In fact some folk are dumb 
>>>if
>>>they can't use their arms.
>>>
>>>Mray
>>>>
>> Mray ?
>
> That was for the benefit of those among us who claim to be dyslexic.
>>
>> I remember years ago in candid camera or something, they made some
>> Italians describe a spiral staircase without moving their hands
>>
>> ... it was painful to watch
>
> Could you do it?
>
> Mary
>


Am I sensing a bizarre bit of chemistry bewteen you and Raden?
Date:Sun, 4 Sep 2005 20:29:58 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
In message <431b4b10$0$5854$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net>, Mary 
Fisher  writes

>
>"raden"  wrote in message
>news:C$XbDclfN0GDFwlm@ntlworld.com...
>> In message <431b41ec$0$31495$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net>, Mary Fisher
>>  writes
>>>
>>>"raden"  wrote in message
>>>news:IU2pZsRZLyGDFwHa@ntlworld.com...
>>>> In message <431b1fbd$0$12562$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net>, Mary
>>>> Fisher  writes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't you know,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> everyone understands English if you just shout loud enough
>>>>>
>>>>>Don't you wave your arms as well?
>>>>>
>>>>>People do that when they're on their mobiles. In fact some folk are dumb
>>>>>if
>>>>>they can't use their arms.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mray
>>>>>>
>>>> Mray ?
>>>
>>>That was for the benefit of those among us who claim to be dyslexic.
>>>>
>>>> I remember years ago in candid camera or something, they made some
>>>> Italians describe a spiral staircase without moving their hands
>>>>
>>>> ... it was painful to watch
>>>
>>>Could you do it?
>>>
>> Of course, I'm a complete sadist
>
>Wouldn't cause me pain. Are you a masochist too?
>
>:-)
>

I must be, I answer your posts

-- 
geoff
Date:Sun, 04 Sep 2005 19:36:29 GMT   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
"raden"  wrote in message 
news:6tQ131sCv0GDFwj8@ntlworld.com...

> In message <431b4b10$0$5854$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net>, Mary Fisher 
>  writes
>>
>>"raden"  wrote in message
>>news:C$XbDclfN0GDFwlm@ntlworld.com...
>>> In message <431b41ec$0$31495$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net>, Mary 
>>> Fisher
>>>  writes
>>>>
>>>>"raden"  wrote in message
>>>>news:IU2pZsRZLyGDFwHa@ntlworld.com...
>>>>> In message <431b1fbd$0$12562$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net>, Mary
>>>>> Fisher  writes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don't you know,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> everyone understands English if you just shout loud enough
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Don't you wave your arms as well?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>People do that when they're on their mobiles. In fact some folk are 
>>>>>>dumb
>>>>>>if
>>>>>>they can't use their arms.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mray
>>>>>>>
>>>>> Mray ?
>>>>
>>>>That was for the benefit of those among us who claim to be dyslexic.
>>>>>
>>>>> I remember years ago in candid camera or something, they made some
>>>>> Italians describe a spiral staircase without moving their hands
>>>>>
>>>>> ... it was painful to watch
>>>>
>>>>Could you do it?
>>>>
>>> Of course, I'm a complete sadist
>>
>>Wouldn't cause me pain. Are you a masochist too?
>>
>>:-)
>>
> I must be, I answer your posts


Worse still, you read them.

And an Italian caused you pain.


mry
(testing, testing)

>
> -- 
> geoff 
Date:Sun, 4 Sep 2005 20:39:23 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
In message <dffhvr$ush$1@news.freedom2surf.net>, RedOnRed  
writes

>
>"Mary Fisher"  wrote in message
>news:431b41ec$0$31495$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net...
>>
>> "raden"  wrote in message
>> news:IU2pZsRZLyGDFwHa@ntlworld.com...
>>> In message <431b1fbd$0$12562$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net>, Mary
>>> Fisher  writes
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't you know,
>>>>>
>>>>> everyone understands English if you just shout loud enough
>>>>
>>>>Don't you wave your arms as well?
>>>>
>>>>People do that when they're on their mobiles. In fact some folk are dumb
>>>>if
>>>>they can't use their arms.
>>>>
>>>>Mray
>>>>>
>>> Mray ?
>>
>> That was for the benefit of those among us who claim to be dyslexic.
>>>
>>> I remember years ago in candid camera or something, they made some
>>> Italians describe a spiral staircase without moving their hands
>>>
>>> ... it was painful to watch
>>
>> Could you do it?
>>
>> Mary
>>
>
>Am I sensing a bizarre bit of chemistry bewteen you and Raden?
>

What, as in an oxygen/hydrogen mixture when you add a match ?

-- 
geoff
Date:Sun, 04 Sep 2005 19:40:14 GMT   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
"RedOnRed"  wrote in message 
news:dffhvr$ush$1@news.freedom2surf.net...

>
> "Mary Fisher"  wrote in message 
> news:431b41ec$0$31495$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net...
>>
>> "raden"  wrote in message 
>> news:IU2pZsRZLyGDFwHa@ntlworld.com...
>>> In message <431b1fbd$0$12562$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net>, Mary
>>> Fisher  writes
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't you know,
>>>>>
>>>>> everyone understands English if you just shout loud enough
>>>>
>>>>Don't you wave your arms as well?
>>>>
>>>>People do that when they're on their mobiles. In fact some folk are dumb 
>>>>if
>>>>they can't use their arms.
>>>>
>>>>Mray
>>>>>
>>> Mray ?
>>
>> That was for the benefit of those among us who claim to be dyslexic.
>>>
>>> I remember years ago in candid camera or something, they made some
>>> Italians describe a spiral staircase without moving their hands
>>>
>>> ... it was painful to watch
>>
>> Could you do it?
>>
>> Mary
>>
>
> Am I sensing a bizarre bit of chemistry bewteen you and Raden?


No. We're just good friends. I don't care what the milkman says.

Been waiting for years to use that one! I think it originated with Jimmy 
Edwards.

Such chemistry certainly would be bizarre :-)

Mary

>
> 
Date:Sun, 4 Sep 2005 20:40:51 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
"RedOnRed"  wrote in message 
news:dffhtp$us8$1@news.freedom2surf.net...

>

>
> We've all used it (Nippon) at some time or other haven't we?


Guess what! I haven't :-)

Mind you, we don't get many ants up in the tundra. The last timeI saw some 
was when I came across a large nest in woodland, in the Clder Valley I 
think. It was fascinating. I took lots of pictures.

Mary

>
> 
Date:Sun, 4 Sep 2005 20:42:49 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
"Mary Fisher"  wrote in message 
news:431b4d9f$0$31495$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net...

>
> "RedOnRed"  wrote in message 
> news:dffhvr$ush$1@news.freedom2surf.net...
>>
>> "Mary Fisher"  wrote in message 
>> news:431b41ec$0$31495$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net...
>>>
>>> "raden"  wrote in message 
>>> news:IU2pZsRZLyGDFwHa@ntlworld.com...
>>>> In message <431b1fbd$0$12562$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net>, Mary
>>>> Fisher  writes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't you know,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> everyone understands English if you just shout loud enough
>>>>>
>>>>>Don't you wave your arms as well?
>>>>>
>>>>>People do that when they're on their mobiles. In fact some folk are 
>>>>>dumb if
>>>>>they can't use their arms.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mray
>>>>>>
>>>> Mray ?
>>>
>>> That was for the benefit of those among us who claim to be dyslexic.
>>>>
>>>> I remember years ago in candid camera or something, they made some
>>>> Italians describe a spiral staircase without moving their hands
>>>>
>>>> ... it was painful to watch
>>>
>>> Could you do it?
>>>
>>> Mary
>>>
>>
>> Am I sensing a bizarre bit of chemistry bewteen you and Raden?
>
> No. We're just good friends. I don't care what the milkman says.
>
> Been waiting for years to use that one! I think it originated with Jimmy 
> Edwards.
>
> Such chemistry certainly would be bizarre :-)
>
> Mary
>>


Raden, you can use a few of my emergency chat up lines if you like? How 
about...

My love for you is like diaharrea, I just can't hold it in.



You are as beautiful as the venus de milo... except you have arms. (you 
hope)
Date:Sun, 4 Sep 2005 21:06:53 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
"Mary Fisher"  wrote in message 
news:431b4e15$0$32462$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net...

>
> "RedOnRed"  wrote in message 
> news:dffhtp$us8$1@news.freedom2surf.net...
>>
>
>>
>> We've all used it (Nippon) at some time or other haven't we?
>
> Guess what! I haven't :-)
>
> Mind you, we don't get many ants up in the tundra. The last timeI saw some 
> was when I came across a large nest in woodland, in the Clder Valley I 
> think. It was fascinating. I took lots of pictures.
>
> Mary
>>


Good. Well at least you're aware that ants and Nippon exist then.
Date:Sun, 4 Sep 2005 21:08:18 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
"RedOnRed"  wrote in message 
news:dffk52$vne$1@news.freedom2surf.net...

>

>
> Raden, you can use a few of my emergency chat up lines if you like? How 
> about...
>
> My love for you is like diaharrea, I just can't hold it in.


Can't spell it either!

>
>
> 
Date:Sun, 4 Sep 2005 21:13:56 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
"RedOnRed"  wrote in message 
news:dffk7n$vnt$1@news.freedom2surf.net...

>

>>>
>>
>>>
>>> We've all used it (Nippon) at some time or other haven't we?
>>
>> Guess what! I haven't :-)
>>
>> Mind you, we don't get many ants up in the tundra. The last timeI saw 
>> some was when I came across a large nest in woodland, in the Clder Valley 
>> I think. It was fascinating. I took lots of pictures.
>>
>> Mary
>>>
>
> Good. Well at least you're aware that ants and Nippon exist then.


I know quite a lot about the former. The only experience I have of the 
latter is seeing it promoted on this ng.

Mary

>
> 
Date:Sun, 4 Sep 2005 21:15:03 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
In message <dffk52$vne$1@news.freedom2surf.net>, RedOnRed  
writes

>>>>>
>>>>> I remember years ago in candid camera or something, they made some
>>>>> Italians describe a spiral staircase without moving their hands
>>>>>
>>>>> ... it was painful to watch
>>>>
>>>> Could you do it?
>>>>
>>>> Mary
>>>>
>>>
>>> Am I sensing a bizarre bit of chemistry bewteen you and Raden?


It's just uk.diy banter - without the morons and multiple posts, that is


>>
>> No. We're just good friends. I don't care what the milkman says.
>>
>> Been waiting for years to use that one! I think it originated with Jimmy
>> Edwards.
>>
>> Such chemistry certainly would be bizarre :-)
>>
>> Mary
>>>
>
>Raden, you can use a few of my emergency chat up lines if you like? How
>about...
>
>My love for you is like diaharrea, I just can't hold it in.
>
>You are as beautiful as the venus de milo... except you have arms. (you
>hope)
>

Long distance romances never work

.... and I don't think my wife would be too pleased either

-- 
geoff
Date:Sun, 04 Sep 2005 20:21:35 GMT   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
"raden"  wrote in message 
news:PLBYu1wEa1GDFwXg@ntlworld.com...


>>
> Long distance romances never work
>
> ... and I don't think my wife would be too pleased either


Nor would mine.

Mary

>
> -- 
> geoff 
Date:Sun, 4 Sep 2005 21:48:53 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
In message <431b5d91$0$31495$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net>, Mary 
Fisher  writes

>
>"raden"  wrote in message
>news:PLBYu1wEa1GDFwXg@ntlworld.com...
>
>>>
>> Long distance romances never work
>>
>> ... and I don't think my wife would be too pleased either
>
>Nor would mine.
>

You're ... a lesbian ?

That's why your SOH is always referred to as "Spouse"

I see

-- 
geoff
Date:Sun, 04 Sep 2005 21:16:53 GMT   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
"raden"  wrote in message
news:B6lLiQ5XN2GDFwEu@ntlworld.com...

> In message <431b5d91$0$31495$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net>, Mary
> Fisher  writes
> >
> >"raden"  wrote in message
> >news:PLBYu1wEa1GDFwXg@ntlworld.com...
> >
> >>>
> >> Long distance romances never work
> >>
> >> ... and I don't think my wife would be too pleased either
> >
> >Nor would mine.
> >
> You're ... a lesbian ?


No, she's just been badly bitten or stung by one in the past - poor bitch
!!!



>
> That's why your SOH is always referred to as "Spouse"
>
> I see
>
> --
> geoff
Date:Sun, 04 Sep 2005 21:22:59 GMT   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
Mary Fisher wrote:


> "raden"  wrote in message 
> news:PLBYu1wEa1GDFwXg@ntlworld.com...
> 
> 
>>Long distance romances never work
>>
>>... and I don't think my wife would be too pleased either
> 
> 
> Nor would mine.


I wait with baited breath, the answers  :-)

Dave
Date:Sun, 4 Sep 2005 21:42:11 +0000 (UTC)   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
Mary Fisher wrote:


> "Dave"  wrote in message
> news:dffb7o$eug$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
> 
>>johnnybegood wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Whats the best way to deal with ants in our garden ?.
>>
>>I have to ask first, why do you want to get rid of them.
> 
> 
> It's obvious. It's because he doesn't want to confuse them with apostrophes.


LOL

They never got that far here  :-)

dave
Date:Sun, 4 Sep 2005 21:44:10 +0000 (UTC)   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
RedOnRed wrote:


> "Dave"  wrote in message 
> news:dffb7o$eug$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
> 
>>johnnybegood wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Whats the best way to deal with ants in our garden ?.
>>
>>I have to ask first, why do you want to get rid of them.
>>
>>My wife is always going on about the number of ants in our back garden. I 
>>look at the problem thus, as they do not bother me, I will not bother 
>>them.
>>
>>However, if they are crawling all over you, the best thing that I have 
>>found on the market is 'Ant Bait'. Made by Nippon. The only problem with 
>>using it is that it must be kept dry. It comes in a plastic pack with 
>>holes for the ants to enter and take the bait. When they take it back to 
>>the nest, the nest gets killed.
>>
>>I have successfully used it both at the school I work at and my home. Put 
>>the packs down and about 7 to 10 days later, no more ants.
>>
>>So you could try using these ant bait packs, if you can keep them covered 
>>from the rain, but accessible to the ants. They last for about 3 months 
>>maximum.
>>
>>HTH
>>
>>Dave
> 
> 
> Hardly a revelation. That product's been around longer then Bovril. I had a 
> builder round a few months ago that went on for 15 minutes about how great 
> it was, even though I kept on saying I know and i've used it loads of times 
> every few seconds.
> 
> We've all used it (Nippon) at some time or other haven't we? 


Are we both talking about "Ant bait"?

Dave
Date:Sun, 4 Sep 2005 21:45:48 +0000 (UTC)   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
Mary Fisher wrote:

> Been waiting for years to use that one! 


As the bishop said to the actress, pointing to the last contraceptive in 
the bathroom cabinet

Owain
Date:Sun, 04 Sep 2005 21:44:48 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
raden wrote:

> RedOnRed writes
>> Am I sensing a bizarre bit of chemistry bewteen you and Raden?
> What, as in an oxygen/hydrogen mixture when you add a match ?


I think you get on together like a house on fire.

Owain
Date:Sun, 04 Sep 2005 21:43:22 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
RedOnRed wrote:

> Raden, you can use a few of my emergency chat up lines if you like? How 
> about...
> My love for you is like diaharrea, I just can't hold it in.

 > You are as beautiful as the venus de milo... except you have arms. (you

> hope)


Mary's not your type. She's not inflatable.    ;-)

Owain
Date:Sun, 04 Sep 2005 21:46:03 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
"raden"  wrote in message 
news:B6lLiQ5XN2GDFwEu@ntlworld.com...

> In message <431b5d91$0$31495$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net>, Mary Fisher 
>  writes
>>
>>"raden"  wrote in message
>>news:PLBYu1wEa1GDFwXg@ntlworld.com...
>>
>>>>
>>> Long distance romances never work
>>>
>>> ... and I don't think my wife would be too pleased either
>>
>>Nor would mine.
>>
> You're ... a lesbian ?


No, but I always wanted a wife so that I didn't have to do things I don't 
like, such as de-frost a freezerwhich I did yesterday.

There's a lot to be said for polygamy. As long as I could make the rules :-)

>
> That's why your SOH is always referred to as "Spouse"


He's all man.

Mary
Date:Mon, 5 Sep 2005 10:37:50 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
"Owain"  wrote in message 
news:1125875026.13883.1@doris.uk.clara.net...

> Mary Fisher wrote:
>> Been waiting for years to use that one!
>
> As the bishop said to the actress, pointing to the last contraceptive in 
> the bathroom cabinet
>
> Owain


They don't always work anyway. Scissors do.

<sigh>

Mary
mother of five in seven years

> 
Date:Mon, 5 Sep 2005 10:39:30 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 09:54:35 GMT, "johnnybegood" 
wrote:


>Whats the best way to deal with ants in our garden ?.
>
>We've tried the usual powdered products, but they keep coming back.
>
>TIA
>
>woodglass....
>
>


I kill large swarms of ants on my patio with a blowtorch. They do seem
to like living in small cracks in concrete, so fill those up.

Mr F.
Date:Mon, 05 Sep 2005 11:02:38 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 09:54:35 GMT, "johnnybegood" 
wrote:


>Whats the best way to deal with ants in our garden ?.
>
>We've tried the usual powdered products, but they keep coming back.
>
>TIA
>
>woodglass....
>
>


I kill large swarms of ants on my patio with a blowtorch. They do seem
to like living in small cracks in concrete, so fill those up.

Mr F.
Date:Mon, 05 Sep 2005 11:02:38 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 11:23:34 +0100, RedOnRed  wrote:

[ants]


> You can't stop them. Well not at least permanently. That's why they've  
> been
> on this planet longer then us.


If you can track them back to their nest, circling the exit with flowers  
of sulphur (which should be available from a chemist - perhaps a couple of  
days)ought to do the trick. Sulphur (which I am now told must be spelt  
"sulfur" - stuff 'em)is not terribly toxic to mammals(ever heard of  
brimstone and treacle?), but sticks to the ants as they cross it so the  
carry it down into their nest where it slowly volatilises and finishes  
them off. It is pet-friendly, but needs replacement after rain.

John Schmitt

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Date:Mon, 05 Sep 2005 11:36:06 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
"John Schmitt"  wrote in message 
news:op.swmk2g0a5ogug8@ps-00045861.uni.mdx.ac.uk...

> On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 11:23:34 +0100, RedOnRed  wrote:
>
> [ants]
>
>> You can't stop them. Well not at least permanently. That's why they've 
>> been
>> on this planet longer then us.
>
> If you can track them back to their nest, circling the exit with flowers 
> of sulphur (which should be available from a chemist - perhaps a couple of 
> days)ought to do the trick. Sulphur (which I am now told must be spelt 
> "sulfur" - stuff 'em)


Who told you that?


> is not terribly toxic to mammals(ever heard of  brimstone and treacle?), 
> but sticks to the ants as they cross it so the  carry it down into their 
> nest where it slowly volatilises and finishes  them off. It is 
> pet-friendly, but needs replacement after rain.
>
> John Schmitt


You still won't stop them permanently, only the ones which are killed. There 
are billions more.

Mary

>
> -- 
> Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ 
Date:Mon, 5 Sep 2005 12:26:44 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 10:39:30 +0100, Mary Fisher   
wrote:


> mother of five in seven years


I take it you didn't have a television back then.

John Schmitt

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Date:Mon, 05 Sep 2005 12:27:54 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 12:26:44 +0100, Mary Fisher   
wrote:


>> If you can track them back to their nest, circling the exit with flowers
>> of sulphur (which should be available from a chemist - perhaps a couple  
>> of
>> days)ought to do the trick. Sulphur (which I am now told must be spelt
>> "sulfur" - stuff 'em)

> Who told you that?


The bit about "sulfur"? IUPAC.

www.iupac.org/



> You still won't stop them permanently, only the ones which are killed.  
> There
> are billions more.


It will eradicate the nest, which I think the OP was after.

John Schmitt

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Date:Mon, 05 Sep 2005 12:37:38 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
On 5 Sep,  
     "John Schmitt"  wrote:


> >> Sulphur (which I am now told must be spelt "sulfur" - stuff 'em)
> 
> > Who told you that?
> 
> The bit about "sulfur"? IUPAC.
> 
> www.iupac.org/


Well the americans would say that, they can't spell english.


> 

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Date:Mon, 05 Sep 2005 13:21:28 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
In article <431c2b4e$0$28628$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net>,
   Mary Fisher  wrote:


> "John Schmitt"  wrote in message 
> news:op.swmk2g0a5ogug8@ps-00045861.uni.mdx.ac.uk...
> > On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 11:23:34 +0100, RedOnRed  wrote:
> >
> > [ants]
> >
> >> You can't stop them. Well not at least permanently. That's why they've 
> >> been
> >> on this planet longer then us.
> >
> > If you can track them back to their nest, circling the exit with flowers 
> > of sulphur (which should be available from a chemist - perhaps a couple of 
> > days)ought to do the trick. Sulphur (which I am now told must be spelt 
> > "sulfur" - stuff 'em)

> Who told you that?


It's an 'allowed' spelling for UK public examinations (along with aluminum) -
presumably because of the contamination from US sources. AFAIK no-one has yet
made it mandatory. Those spellings will not find their way into my
dictionaries.

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Date:Mon, 05 Sep 2005 13:38:51 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 13:21:28 +0100,  wrote:


>On 5 Sep,  
>     "John Schmitt"  wrote:
>
>> >> Sulphur (which I am now told must be spelt "sulfur" - stuff 'em)
>> 
>> > Who told you that?
>> 
>> The bit about "sulfur"? IUPAC.
>> 
>> www.iupac.org/
>
>Well the americans would say that, they can't spell english.
>
>> 

Yep. It was the silly old fool called Noah Webster who first changed
proper spelling to American spelling. The trouble is he only did it
with some words. He changed aluminium to aluminum but failed change
sodium to sodum and potassium to potassum. Well perhaps he hadn't
heard of them since they were discovered in the England around the
time he was writing his dictionaries and word travels slowly to
america.

Moral of the story: never trust a dictionary that has webster in the
title.

Anyway IUPAC accepted that changing aluminium to aluminum was stupid,
so aluminium is the official spelling.

Mr F.
Date:Mon, 05 Sep 2005 14:08:41 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
"John Schmitt"  wrote in message 
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> On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 10:39:30 +0100, Mary Fisher  
> wrote:
>
>> mother of five in seven years
>
> I take it you didn't have a television back then.


Still don't. Your point?

Mary

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Date:Mon, 5 Sep 2005 14:26:57 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
"John Schmitt"  wrote in message 
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> On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 12:26:44 +0100, Mary Fisher  
> wrote:
>
>>> If you can track them back to their nest, circling the exit with flowers
>>> of sulphur (which should be available from a chemist - perhaps a couple 
>>> of
>>> days)ought to do the trick. Sulphur (which I am now told must be spelt
>>> "sulfur" - stuff 'em)
>
>> Who told you that?
>
> The bit about "sulfur"? IUPAC.
>
> www.iupac.org/


And what authority does that have?

>
>
>> You still won't stop them permanently, only the ones which are killed. 
>> There
>> are billions more.
>
> It will eradicate the nest, which I think the OP was after.


My point is that by destroying one nest - or a hundred nests - there will 
still be ants to bother him. Sometimes we have to learn to live with other 
creatures - they had to learn to live with us. Ants, wasps and bees among 
very many other cretures were here long before we were and didn't feel the 
need to destroy us when we happened.

Mary

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Date:Mon, 5 Sep 2005 14:29:26 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
"Mr Fizzion" <wankel@rotary.engine> wrote in message 
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>>>
> Yep. It was the silly old fool called Noah Webster who first changed
> proper spelling to American spelling. The trouble is he only did it
> with some words. He changed aluminium to aluminum but failed change
> sodium to sodum and potassium to potassum. Well perhaps he hadn't
> heard of them since they were discovered in the England around the
> time he was writing his dictionaries and word travels slowly to
> america.


WHAT??? Your history is faulty.

Mary
Date:Mon, 5 Sep 2005 14:30:44 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
"John Cartmell"  wrote in message 
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> In article <431c2b4e$0$28628$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net>,
>   Mary Fisher  wrote:
>
<sul*ur>
>
> It's an 'allowed' spelling for UK public examinations (along with 
> aluminum) -


Hm. I don't think spelling is considered in UK public examinations any more, 
even in English papers :-(   Mustn't stifle creativity you know ...


> presumably because of the contamination from US sources. AFAIK no-one has 
> yet
> made it mandatory. Those spellings will not find their way into my
> dictionaries.


Nor mine. But I didn't realise that Al WAS spelt 'aluminum' - I thought it 
was just how it was pronounced there. An American doctor friend and I argued 
long and frequently (and happily) about this. She spelt it with the second 
'u'.

Mary
Date:Mon, 5 Sep 2005 14:34:18 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 14:29:26 +0100, Mary Fisher   
wrote:


>> The bit about "sulfur"? IUPAC.

> And what authority does that have?


Ample, as Bentley used to describe the power their engines delivered.


>> It will eradicate the nest, which I think the OP was after.

> My point is that by destroying one nest - or a hundred nests - there will
> still be ants to bother him. Sometimes we have to learn to live with  
> other
> creatures - they had to learn to live with us. Ants, wasps and bees among
> very many other cretures were here long before we were and didn't feel  
> the
> need to destroy us when we happened.


Should mankind decide on a moratorium on any particular species and pursue  
it rigidly, history would indicate who exactly will win. Smallpox is  
effectively extinct in the wild and other diseases are being targeted.  
While it was not men who directly eliminated the dodo, it was their  
unwitting actions. As for the passenger pigeon, you can draw your own  
conclusions.I am not suggesting that this should be done without a very  
careful investigation of the effects on the biosphere.

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Date:Mon, 05 Sep 2005 14:51:11 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 14:34:18 +0100, Mary Fisher   
wrote:



> Nor mine. But I didn't realise that Al WAS spelt 'aluminum' - I thought  
> it
> was just how it was pronounced there. An American doctor friend and I  
> argued
> long and frequently (and happily) about this. She spelt it with the  
> second
> 'u'.


Then again, you did not spend part of your schooling there. Between East  
and West coast US Italy, Leeds and London education, I think I could  
describe my education as bordering on cosmopolitan. Never mind the  
spelling, the dialects English has developed are a minefield. Try looking  
up the nearly contradictory meanings "blue" has in Australian English.  
Closer to home, "cleave" has an interesting dichotomy.

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Date:Mon, 05 Sep 2005 15:00:34 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 09:54:35 GMT, "johnnybegood" 
wrote:


>Whats the best way to deal with ants in our garden ?.
>
>We've tried the usual powdered products, but they keep coming back.


Armillatox does the job.

Make hole in ants nest and insert a plastic funnel. Into this pour a
20:1 solution of armillatox and allow to soak into the nest.

It may well kill any surrounding grass but it'll soon grow back.

It's sold as a garden cleaner due to EU laws on garden chemicals..

sponix
Date:Mon, 05 Sep 2005 14:42:15 GMT   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 09:54:35 GMT, "johnnybegood" 
wrote:


>Whats the best way to deal with ants in our garden ?.
>
>We've tried the usual powdered products, but they keep coming back.


Armillatox does the job.

Make hole in ants nest and insert a plastic funnel. Into this pour a
20:1 solution of armillatox and allow to soak into the nest.

It may well kill any surrounding grass but it'll soon grow back.

It's sold as a garden cleaner due to EU laws on garden chemicals..

sponix
Date:Mon, 05 Sep 2005 14:42:15 GMT   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
"John Schmitt"  wrote in message 
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> On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 14:29:26 +0100, Mary Fisher  
> wrote:
>
>>> The bit about "sulfur"? IUPAC.
>
>> And what authority does that have?
>
> Ample, as Bentley used to describe the power their engines delivered.


Wishy washy.

>
>
> Should mankind decide on a moratorium on any particular species and pursue 
> it rigidly, history would indicate who exactly will win.


That hasn't worked with locusts.


> Smallpox is  effectively extinct in the wild and other diseases are being 
> targeted.


But not being eradicated. smallpox is the exception which proves the rule.


> While it was not men who directly eliminated the dodo, it was their 
> unwitting actions. As for the passenger pigeon, you can draw your own 
> conclusions.I am not suggesting that this should be done without a very 
> careful investigation of the effects on the biosphere.


Oh come on! You can't compare the extinction of birds with the extinction of 
hymenoptera.
Date:Mon, 5 Sep 2005 16:29:14 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
"John Schmitt"  wrote in message 
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> On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 14:34:18 +0100, Mary Fisher  
> wrote:
>
>
>> Nor mine. But I didn't realise that Al WAS spelt 'aluminum' - I thought 
>> it
>> was just how it was pronounced there. An American doctor friend and I 
>> argued
>> long and frequently (and happily) about this. She spelt it with the 
>> second
>> 'u'.
>
> Then again, you did not spend part of your schooling there.


I wish you'd make your points clearer.


> Between East  and West coast US Italy, Leeds and London education, I think 
> I could  describe my education as bordering on cosmopolitan. Never mind 
> the  spelling, the dialects English has developed are a minefield.


No they're not. But we weren't discussing dialects.


> Try looking  up the nearly contradictory meanings "blue" has in Australian 
> English.  Closer to home, "cleave" has an interesting dichotomy.


So have many words. Your point is?
Date:Mon, 5 Sep 2005 16:31:06 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
"s--p--o--n--i--x"  wrote in message 
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> On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 09:54:35 GMT, "johnnybegood" 
> wrote:
>
>>Whats the best way to deal with ants in our garden ?.
>>
>>We've tried the usual powdered products, but they keep coming back.
>
> Armillatox does the job.
>
> Make hole in ants nest and insert a plastic funnel. Into this pour a
> 20:1 solution of armillatox and allow to soak into the nest.
>
> It may well kill any surrounding grass but it'll soon grow back.
>
> It's sold as a garden cleaner due to EU laws on garden chemicals..


So it's an illegal use of the product.

Mary

>
> sponix 
Date:Mon, 5 Sep 2005 16:31:44 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
Or contraception ???



"John Schmitt"  wrote in message
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> On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 10:39:30 +0100, Mary Fisher 
> wrote:
>
> > mother of five in seven years
>
> I take it you didn't have a television back then.
>
> John Schmitt
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Date:Mon, 05 Sep 2005 17:38:02 GMT   Author:  

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woodglass wrote:

> Or contraception ???


:)

I found a woman in pregnancy far easier to live with for 9 months than a 
woman with PMT 1 week in 4 !

Perhaps Mary is(was? the devil incarnate during the evil week(s) !

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Date:Mon, 05 Sep 2005 19:27:01 GMT   Author:  

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"Pet @ www.gymratz.co.uk"  wrote in message 
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> woodglass wrote:
>> Or contraception ???
>
> :)
>
> I found a woman in pregnancy far easier to live with for 9 months than a 
> woman with PMT 1 week in 4 !
>
> Perhaps Mary is(was? the devil incarnate during the evil week(s) !


PMT hadn't  been invented in my day.

I didn't need hormones to bring out the best in me:-)

Mary

>
Date:Mon, 5 Sep 2005 20:59:23 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
Mary Fisher wrote:


> PMT hadn't  been invented in my day.
> 
> I didn't need hormones to bring out the best in me:-)


I think the word is "beast"

:)

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Date:Mon, 05 Sep 2005 20:38:17 GMT   Author:  

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"Pet @ www.gymratz.co.uk"  wrote in message 
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> Mary Fisher wrote:
>
>> PMT hadn't  been invented in my day.
>>
>> I didn't need hormones to bring out the best in me:-)
>
> I think the word is "beast"


Bestiality has never appealed to me.

Mary
Date:Mon, 5 Sep 2005 21:46:10 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 16:31:44 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
 wrote:


>> It's sold as a garden cleaner due to EU laws on garden chemicals..
>
>So it's an illegal use of the product.


The EU decreed that any garden chemical introduced before 1993 has to
be re-tested, a process that costs many, many tens of thousands of
pounds per product. As armillatox has always been a niche product the
manufacturers simply couldn't afford to have it re-tested.

Hence, it is sold as a cleaner.

It's perfectly legfal to use as a cleaner. Whether it's illegal to use
as a pesticide or not is open to question. 

All I know is it's one of the few things that kills ants nests!

sponix
Date:Tue, 06 Sep 2005 07:59:45 GMT   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
http://www.armillatox.co.uk/
Date:Tue, 06 Sep 2005 08:02:19 GMT   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 16:29:14 +0100, Mary Fisher   
wrote:


>>>> The bit about "sulfur"? IUPAC.
>>
>>> And what authority does that have?
>>
>> Ample, as Bentley used to describe the power their engines delivered.
>
> Wishy washy.


Try googling "sulfur" and "sulphur". the "ph" spelling is dying out.


>> Should mankind decide on a moratorium on any particular species and  
>> pursue
>> it rigidly, history would indicate who exactly will win.

> That hasn't worked with locusts.


Only because of inertia on the part of the authorities. You need a bit  
more weltanschauung.


>> Smallpox is  effectively extinct in the wild and other diseases are  
>> being
>> targeted.

> But not being eradicated. smallpox is the exception which proves the  
> rule.


Smallpox took 20 years and more to be finished off. With international  
travel becoming a norm, the problem is more complex, but not  
insurpassable. TB and tetanus already have the health services' knee on  
their windpipe, as regards their human effect. Even influenzae are being  
tightened up on. With the 'flu jab being widely used, the number of  
carriers is reduced, so the impact of an epidemic is greatly blunted by  
the lack of potential carriers. Derive and conduct the mathematics  
independently and we will see if we have the same answers.


>> While it was not men who directly eliminated the dodo, it was their
>> unwitting actions. As for the passenger pigeon, you can draw your own
>> conclusions.I am not suggesting that this should be done without a very
>> careful investigation of the effects on the biosphere.
>
> Oh come on! You can't compare the extinction of birds with the  
> extinction of
> hymenoptera.


Or virii?

Apparently unintentional but,

http://hbs.bishopmuseum.org/endangered/ext-insects.html

lists 13 hymenoptera species in Hawaii alone, plus a large collection of  
their companions.

A carefully engineered parasite should suffice to control, if not  
eliminate locusts.

John Schmitt

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Date:Tue, 06 Sep 2005 10:52:01 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
In article ,
   John Schmitt  wrote:

> Even influenzae are being tightened up on. With the 'flu jab being widely
> used, the number of carriers is reduced, so the impact of an epidemic is
> greatly blunted by the lack of potential carriers.


Until we get the next 'big one'. :-(

Asian tsunamis and Katrina are small fry ...

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Date:Tue, 06 Sep 2005 12:06:19 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
Learn to love them  - they may prove to be more loveable than many of
your friends  -  and certainly more durable  :-)
On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 09:54:35 GMT, "johnnybegood" 
wrote:


>Whats the best way to deal with ants in our garden ?.
>
>We've tried the usual powdered products, but they keep coming back.
>
>TIA
>
>woodglass....
>
>
Date:Wed, 7 Sep 2005 12:33:01 +0000 (UTC)   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
In article , John49
@mdx.ac.uk says...

> TB and tetanus already have the health services' knee on  
> their windpipe, as regards their human effect


http://society.guardian.co.uk/publichealth/story/0,11098,1275124,00.html
<snip>

> 
> Or virii?


VIRUSES  :-)
Date:Tue, 6 Sep 2005 14:14:39 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 14:14:39 +0100, Rob Morley  wrote:


>> Or virii?

> VIRUSES  :-)


Depends how low-brow you want to appear. ;-) You should think about the  
criterias involved. :-0

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Date:Tue, 06 Sep 2005 14:23:31 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
In article , John49
@mdx.ac.uk says...

> On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 14:14:39 +0100, Rob Morley  wrote:
> 
> >> Or virii?
> 
> > VIRUSES  :-)
> 
> Depends how low-brow you want to appear. ;-)


virii is pseudo-highbrow
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plural_of_virus


> You should think about the criterias involved. :-0
> 

As criteria is the plural of criterion I wonder why you would want to 
further pluralise it.
Date:Tue, 6 Sep 2005 14:58:07 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 09:52:01 UTC, "John Schmitt"  
wrote:


> Or virii?


 http://homepages.tesco.net./~J.deBoynePollard/FGA/plural-of-virus.html

Especially the last bit! 

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Date:6 Sep 2005 14:19:16 GMT   Author:  

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On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 14:58:07 +0100, Rob Morley  wrote:


> virii is pseudo-highbrow
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plural_of_virus


It is the correct Latin. Unfortunately, I meet so few native speakers that  
I am out of practise.


>> You should think about the criterias involved. :-0

> As criteria is the plural of criterion I wonder why you would want to
> further pluralise it.


You may notice that wikipedia has omitted the words "irony" and gullible".

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Date:Tue, 06 Sep 2005 15:19:37 +0100   Author:  

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"Rob Morley"  wrote in message 
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> In article , John49
> @mdx.ac.uk says...
>> TB and tetanus already have the health services' knee on
>> their windpipe, as regards their human effect
>
> http://society.guardian.co.uk/publichealth/story/0,11098,1275124,00.html
> <snip>
>>
>> Or virii?
>
> VIRUSES  :-)


:-)))
Date:Tue, 6 Sep 2005 15:26:14 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
In article , John49
@mdx.ac.uk says...

> On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 14:58:07 +0100, Rob Morley  wrote:
> 
> > virii is pseudo-highbrow
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plural_of_virus
> 
> It is the correct Latin. Unfortunately, I meet so few native speakers that  
> I am out of practise.


It is not the correct Latin.

> 
> >> You should think about the criterias involved. :-0
> 
> > As criteria is the plural of criterion I wonder why you would want to
> > further pluralise it.
> 
> You may notice that wikipedia has omitted the words "irony" and gullible".
> 

I realised that you trying to make a point, but it was not altogether 
clear what that point was - "criterions" might have been more aposite, 
being an incorrectly anglicised plural form of a word with Greek 
origins, but something with a Latin root would really have been more 
appropriate, don't you think?
Date:Tue, 6 Sep 2005 16:38:38 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 16:38:38 +0100, Rob Morley  wrote:


> I realised that you trying to make a point, but it was not altogether
> clear what that point was - "criterions" might have been more aposite,
> being an incorrectly anglicised plural form of a word with Greek
> origins, but something with a Latin root would really have been more
> appropriate, don't you think?


As I am familiar with both dead languages (you should have seen the locals  
fall about laughing when I used ancient Greek), and they both form a  
sigificant part of what has fallen into the OED, the distinction is  
relatively trivial to me. Of course my employers have a number of campi.

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Date:Tue, 06 Sep 2005 16:48:29 +0100   Author:  

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"Rob Morley"  wrote in message 
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> In article , John49
> @mdx.ac.uk says...
>> On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 14:58:07 +0100, Rob Morley  
>> wrote:
>>
>> > virii is pseudo-highbrow
>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plural_of_virus
>>
>> It is the correct Latin. Unfortunately, I meet so few native speakers 
>> that
>> I am out of practise.
>
> It is not the correct Latin.


'practise' isn't even the correct English!

Mary
Date:Tue, 6 Sep 2005 17:04:26 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 17:04:26 +0100, Mary Fisher   
wrote:


>>> I am out of practise.
>>
>> It is not the correct Latin.
>
> 'practise' isn't even the correct English!


Exactly which variety of English are you referring to? I think you will  
find that the original Middle French word-root from which the word came  
into English used the "S" spelling. The "C" spelling is a neologism.

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Date:Wed, 07 Sep 2005 09:46:33 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 08:46:33 UTC, "John Schmitt"  
wrote:


> On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 17:04:26 +0100, Mary Fisher   
> wrote:
> 
> >>> I am out of practise.
> >>
> >> It is not the correct Latin.
> >
> > 'practise' isn't even the correct English!
> 
> Exactly which variety of English are you referring to? I think you will  
> find that the original Middle French word-root from which the word came  
> into English used the "S" spelling. The "C" spelling is a neologism.


As is so often the case, the American English version is the 'purer' of 
the two. Fowler says that 'practise' (as the noun and verb) is American 
English, and is the verb (but not the noun) in British English.

Mary failed to specify that she was limiting her comment to British 
English.

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Date:7 Sep 2005 09:20:31 GMT   Author:  

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"Bob Eager"  wrote in message 
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>
> As is so often the case, the American English version is the 'purer' of
> the two. Fowler says that 'practise' (as the noun and verb) is American
> English, and is the verb (but not the noun) in British English.


All the Americans I know use'practice' for both verb and noun.

>
> Mary failed to specify that she was limiting her comment to British
> English.


This is UK.diy

Mary
Date:Wed, 7 Sep 2005 12:31:04 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 11:31:04 UTC, "Mary Fisher" 
 wrote:


> 
> "Bob Eager"  wrote in message 
> news:176uZD2KcidF-pn2-cUL1OSOxQbry@rikki.tavi.co.uk...
> 
> >
> > As is so often the case, the American English version is the 'purer' of
> > the two. Fowler says that 'practise' (as the noun and verb) is American
> > English, and is the verb (but not the noun) in British English.
> 
> All the Americans I know use'practice' for both verb and noun.


Probably not a significant sample.


> > Mary failed to specify that she was limiting her comment to British
> > English.
> 
> This is UK.diy


That does not constitute a qualification.
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Date:7 Sep 2005 11:53:45 GMT   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
Learn to love them  - they may prove to be more loveable than many of
your friends  -  and certainly more durable  :-)
On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 09:54:35 GMT, "johnnybegood" 
wrote:


>Whats the best way to deal with ants in our garden ?.
>
>We've tried the usual powdered products, but they keep coming back.
>
>TIA
>
>woodglass....
>
>
Date:Wed, 7 Sep 2005 12:33:01 +0000 (UTC)   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
"Bob Eager"  wrote in message 
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> On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 11:31:04 UTC, "Mary Fisher"
>  wrote:
>
>>
>> "Bob Eager"  wrote in message
>> news:176uZD2KcidF-pn2-cUL1OSOxQbry@rikki.tavi.co.uk...
>>
>> >
>> > As is so often the case, the American English version is the 'purer' of
>> > the two. Fowler says that 'practise' (as the noun and verb) is American
>> > English, and is the verb (but not the noun) in British English.
>>
>> All the Americans I know use'practice' for both verb and noun.
>
> Probably not a significant sample.
>
>> > Mary failed to specify that she was limiting her comment to British
>> > English.
>>
>> This is UK.diy
>
> That does not constitute a qualification.


It means that I don't need to define what language I'm using to readers.

Those who do read my posts know what to expect, they needn't waste time 
opening them. There's a growing muber of posters whose posts I ignore.

Mary
Date:Wed, 7 Sep 2005 14:49:40 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
"aam"  wrote in message 
news:3dnth15tuoq0f4u44s5v7s2opki40m58i1@4ax.com...

> Learn to love them  - they may prove to be more loveable than many of
> your friends  -  and certainly more durable  :-)


And with far more interesting lives.

Mary
Date:Wed, 7 Sep 2005 14:50:26 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 13:49:40 UTC, "Mary Fisher" 
 wrote:


> 
> "Bob Eager"  wrote in message 
> news:176uZD2KcidF-pn2-yZcSOTqcHIwt@rikki.tavi.co.uk...
> > On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 11:31:04 UTC, "Mary Fisher"
> >  wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "Bob Eager"  wrote in message
> >> news:176uZD2KcidF-pn2-cUL1OSOxQbry@rikki.tavi.co.uk...
> >>
> >> >
> >> > As is so often the case, the American English version is the 'purer' of
> >> > the two. Fowler says that 'practise' (as the noun and verb) is American
> >> > English, and is the verb (but not the noun) in British English.
> >>
> >> All the Americans I know use'practice' for both verb and noun.
> >
> > Probably not a significant sample.
> >
> >> > Mary failed to specify that she was limiting her comment to British
> >> > English.
> >>
> >> This is UK.diy
> >
> > That does not constitute a qualification.
> 
> It means that I don't need to define what language I'm using to readers.
> 
> Those who do read my posts know what to expect, they needn't waste time 
> opening them. There's a growing muber of posters whose posts I ignore.


Touched a nerve, I see...
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Date:7 Sep 2005 14:41:49 GMT   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
"Bob Eager"  wrote in message 
news:176uZD2KcidF-pn2-8QSEXDirBIiJ@rikki.tavi.co.uk...

> On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 13:49:40 UTC, "Mary Fisher"
>  wrote:
>
>>
>> "Bob Eager"  wrote in message
>> news:176uZD2KcidF-pn2-yZcSOTqcHIwt@rikki.tavi.co.uk...
>> > On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 11:31:04 UTC, "Mary Fisher"
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> "Bob Eager"  wrote in message
>> >> news:176uZD2KcidF-pn2-cUL1OSOxQbry@rikki.tavi.co.uk...
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > As is so often the case, the American English version is the 'purer' 
>> >> > of
>> >> > the two. Fowler says that 'practise' (as the noun and verb) is 
>> >> > American
>> >> > English, and is the verb (but not the noun) in British English.
>> >>
>> >> All the Americans I know use'practice' for both verb and noun.
>> >
>> > Probably not a significant sample.
>> >
>> >> > Mary failed to specify that she was limiting her comment to British
>> >> > English.
>> >>
>> >> This is UK.diy
>> >
>> > That does not constitute a qualification.
>>
>> It means that I don't need to define what language I'm using to readers.
>>
>> Those who do read my posts know what to expect, they needn't waste time
>> opening them. There's a growing muber of posters whose posts I ignore.
>
> Touched a nerve, I see...


er ?

You're a dentist?

Mary
Date:Wed, 7 Sep 2005 15:49:52 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
On 7 Sep 2005 09:20:31 GMT, "Bob Eager"  wrote:


>On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 08:46:33 UTC, "John Schmitt"  
>wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 17:04:26 +0100, Mary Fisher   
>> wrote:
>> 
>> >>> I am out of practise.
>> >>
>> >> It is not the correct Latin.
>> >
>> > 'practise' isn't even the correct English!
>> 
>> Exactly which variety of English are you referring to? I think you will  
>> find that the original Middle French word-root from which the word came  
>> into English used the "S" spelling. The "C" spelling is a neologism.
>
>As is so often the case, the American English version is the 'purer' of 
>the two. Fowler says that 'practise' (as the noun and verb) is American 
>English, and is the verb (but not the noun) in British English.


Outrageous.   You'll be suggesting next that it's OK to use "leverage"
as a verb, that "repurpose" is a word and that "momentarily" should be
used where "momently" is correct  ;-)


>
>Mary failed to specify that she was limiting her comment to British 
>English.


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Date:Wed, 07 Sep 2005 18:02:57 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 17:02:57 UTC, Andy Hall <andyh@hall.nospam> wrote:


> >As is so often the case, the American English version is the 'purer' of 
> >the two. Fowler says that 'practise' (as the noun and verb) is American 
> >English, and is the verb (but not the noun) in British English.
> 
> Outrageous.   You'll be suggesting next that it's OK to use "leverage"
> as a verb, that "repurpose" is a word and that "momentarily" should be
> used where "momently" is correct  ;-)


Of course not; they are all abominations. But there are cases where the 
word has changed over time in Britain, but remained in its original form
in America. And some words ('faucet' comes to mind) which have 
completely disappeared 'over here'.

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Date:7 Sep 2005 17:08:55 GMT   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
On 7 Sep 2005 17:08:55 GMT, "Bob Eager"  wrote:


>On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 17:02:57 UTC, Andy Hall <andyh@hall.nospam> wrote:
>
>> >As is so often the case, the American English version is the 'purer' of 
>> >the two. Fowler says that 'practise' (as the noun and verb) is American 
>> >English, and is the verb (but not the noun) in British English.
>> 
>> Outrageous.   You'll be suggesting next that it's OK to use "leverage"
>> as a verb, that "repurpose" is a word and that "momentarily" should be
>> used where "momently" is correct  ;-)
>
>Of course not; they are all abominations. But there are cases where the 
>word has changed over time in Britain, but remained in its original form
>in America. And some words ('faucet' comes to mind) which have 
>completely disappeared 'over here'.


There are some.  "Rabbet" rather than "rebate" used in joinery, for
example.   "Gotten" may be another one, bu still makes my teeth grind.


A guy from Georgia enrolled at Harvard and on his first day there was
walking across the campus and asked an upperclassman (drawling
heavily),"Excuse me, can you tell me where the library is at?" 

The upperclassman responded, "At Harvard we do not end sentences with
prepositions." 

The Georgian then replied, 
"Well then, could you tell me where the library is at, asshole?" 




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Date:Wed, 07 Sep 2005 23:51:32 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
"Andy Hall" <andyh@hall.nospam> wrote in message 
news:ucruh11nsrn7q3kkqbn3ri5cm5jgg3j3a4@4ax.com...

>>
>> some words ('faucet' comes to mind) which have
>>completely disappeared 'over here'.


? It hasn't.

>
> There are some.  "Rabbet" rather than "rebate" used in joinery, for
> example.   "Gotten" may be another one, bu still makes my teeth grind.


Yes, but just because Americans haven't made progress in some parts of their 
language doesn't mean that we should use it. We develop our own and words 
are correct in their *present* context, not the historical one. Very few 
people would be able to understand mediaeval English.

>
> A guy from Georgia enrolled at Harvard and on his first day there was
> walking across the campus and asked an upperclassman (drawling
> heavily),"Excuse me, can you tell me where the library is at?"
>
> The upperclassman responded, "At Harvard we do not end sentences with
> prepositions."
>
> The Georgian then replied,
> "Well then, could you tell me where the library is at, asshole?"

:-)

Mary
>
>
>
>
> -- 
>
> .andy
>
> To email, substitute .nospam with .gl 
Date:Thu, 8 Sep 2005 10:37:55 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
All this shit has nothing to do with the original post !!!!!!!!!!




"John Schmitt"  wrote in message
news:op.swp5bvle5ogug8@ps-00045861.uni.mdx.ac.uk...

> On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 17:04:26 +0100, Mary Fisher 
> wrote:
>
> >>> I am out of practise.
> >>
> >> It is not the correct Latin.
> >
> > 'practise' isn't even the correct English!
>
> Exactly which variety of English are you referring to? I think you will
> find that the original Middle French word-root from which the word came
> into English used the "S" spelling. The "C" spelling is a neologism.
>
> John Schmitt
>
> --
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Date:Thu, 08 Sep 2005 21:09:52 GMT   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
woodglass wrote:

> All this shit has nothing to do with the original post !!!!!!!!!!


<looks round>

Yup, this *is* a newsgroup.

Owain
Date:Thu, 08 Sep 2005 23:40:20 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
In article <AM1Ue.8949$k22.4024@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, woodglass
<URL:mailto:abc@def.co.uk> wrote:


> All this shit has nothing to do with the original post !!!!!!!!!!


WHAT original post? As you couldn't be bothered to post the right way up,
nor trim to context, we are non the wiser.

http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post

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Date:Fri, 9 Sep 2005 11:03:58 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
"Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics)"  wrote in message 
news:ant091058d07dVpW@office.ajlelectronics.co.uk...

> In article <AM1Ue.8949$k22.4024@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, woodglass
> <URL:mailto:abc@def.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> ... nothing to do with the original post !!!!!!!!!!
>
> WHAT original post? As you couldn't be bothered to post the right way up,
> nor trim to context, we are non the wiser.


:-)

Mary
Date:Fri, 9 Sep 2005 14:10:55 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
If you are unaware of the original post why bother reading and replying to
any threads ?.



"Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics)"  wrote in message
news:ant091058d07dVpW@office.ajlelectronics.co.uk...

> In article <AM1Ue.8949$k22.4024@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, woodglass
> <URL:mailto:abc@def.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > All this shit has nothing to do with the original post !!!!!!!!!!
>
> WHAT original post? As you couldn't be bothered to post the right way up,
> nor trim to context, we are non the wiser.
>
> http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post
>
> --
> AJL
Date:Fri, 09 Sep 2005 15:53:41 GMT   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
o
O/
L



"Mary Fisher"  wrote in message
news:432189b0$0$31495$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net...

>
> "Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics)"  wrote in message
> news:ant091058d07dVpW@office.ajlelectronics.co.uk...
> > In article <AM1Ue.8949$k22.4024@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, woodglass
> > <URL:mailto:abc@def.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> ... nothing to do with the original post !!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > WHAT original post? As you couldn't be bothered to post the right way
up,
> > nor trim to context, we are non the wiser.
>
> :-)
>
> Mary
>
>
Date:Fri, 09 Sep 2005 15:54:11 GMT   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
woodglass wrote:

> If you are unaware of the original post why bother reading and
> replying to any threads ?.


Posting as you do upsets your general audience, and is
counter-productive. WRT the original post, reading the
first reply normally gives a good idea - saving having
to read two or more. Anyway, it's like life in general,
if you upset/annoy people, they won't want to help you
or talk to you....

Try to read and apply:

http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post
Date:Fri, 09 Sep 2005 17:02:30 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
I'm outta this playground !.

The concept of newsgroups is a fantastic idea, but is wasted by those people
who post absolute nonsense replies to the topic(s) in question rather than
replying to the obvious subject in question !!!!


woodglass...


"Chris Bacon"  wrote in message
news:4321b155$1_2@x-privat.org...

> woodglass wrote:
> > If you are unaware of the original post why bother reading and
> > replying to any threads ?.
>
> Posting as you do upsets your general audience, and is
> counter-productive. WRT the original post, reading the
> first reply normally gives a good idea - saving having
> to read two or more. Anyway, it's like life in general,
> if you upset/annoy people, they won't want to help you
> or talk to you....
>
> Try to read and apply:
>
> http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post
Date:Fri, 09 Sep 2005 16:18:42 GMT   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
woodglass wrote:

> I'm outta this playground !.


Not my loss, mind the step blundering your way out. Bye.
Date:Fri, 09 Sep 2005 17:22:10 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
Is, by any chance your middle name Philip, Paul, or Peter ?

woodglass...




"Chris Bacon"  wrote in message
news:4321b5f1$1_1@x-privat.org...

> woodglass wrote:
> > I'm outta this playground !.
>
> Not my loss, mind the step blundering your way out. Bye.
Date:Fri, 09 Sep 2005 16:27:17 GMT   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
In message , Owain 
 writes

>woodglass wrote:
>> All this shit has nothing to do with the original post !!!!!!!!!!
>
><looks round>
>
>Yup, this *is* a newsgroup.
>

And you're a very naughty boy

100 lines

"I must write about how to deal with ants"

on my desk by 9 o'clock monday morning young lad

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Date:Fri, 09 Sep 2005 17:17:22 GMT   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
In message <9eiUe.17579$fb.4283@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, woodglass 
 writes

>If you are unaware of the original post why bother reading and replying to
>any threads ?.
>


A.t.rec.toppostingpillocks is that way 
--------------------------------->

somewhere


>
>
>"Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics)"  wrote in message
>news:ant091058d07dVpW@office.ajlelectronics.co.uk...
>> In article <AM1Ue.8949$k22.4024@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, woodglass
>> <URL:mailto:abc@def.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> > All this shit has nothing to do with the original post !!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> WHAT original post? As you couldn't be bothered to post the right way up,
>> nor trim to context, we are non the wiser.
>>
>> http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post
>>
>> --
>> AJL
>
>


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Date:Fri, 09 Sep 2005 17:23:27 GMT   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
In message <CBiUe.33633$2n6.22886@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, woodglass 
 writes

>I'm outta this playground !.
>
>The concept of newsgroups is a fantastic idea, but is wasted by those people
>who post absolute nonsense replies to the topic(s) in question rather than
>replying to the obvious subject in question !!!!
>
>
>woodglass...


Byeee


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Date:Fri, 09 Sep 2005 17:27:23 GMT   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
In message <FJiUe.33720$2n6.12941@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, woodglass 
 writes

>Is, by any chance your middle name Philip, Paul, or Peter ?
>
>woodglass...
>

Before we start getting offensive back, would you like to stop
a) top posting and
b) trying to wind people up

there's a basic law of newsgroups which goes something like this

if you attack everyone,  you end up looking a twat and being ostracised

so either grow up or fuck off


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Date:Fri, 09 Sep 2005 17:33:17 GMT   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
"raden"  wrote in message
news:1eqGbfDTacIDFwwa@ntlworld.com...

> In message <FJiUe.33720$2n6.12941@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, woodglass
>  writes
> >Is, by any chance your middle name Philip, Paul, or Peter ?
> >
> >woodglass...
> >
> Before we start getting offensive back, would you like to stop
> a) top posting and
> b) trying to wind people up
>
> there's a basic law of newsgroups which goes something like this
>
> if you attack everyone,  you end up looking a twat and being ostracised
>
> so either grow up or fuck off


I think I'll grow up, and you can do the fucking off !!!!   :-)




>
>
> --
> geoff
Date:Fri, 09 Sep 2005 18:02:08 GMT   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
In message <A6kUe.14266$k22.5640@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, woodglass 
 writes

>"raden"  wrote in message
>news:1eqGbfDTacIDFwwa@ntlworld.com...
>> In message <FJiUe.33720$2n6.12941@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, woodglass
>>  writes
>> >Is, by any chance your middle name Philip, Paul, or Peter ?
>> >
>> >woodglass...
>> >
>> Before we start getting offensive back, would you like to stop
>> a) top posting and
>> b) trying to wind people up
>>
>> there's a basic law of newsgroups which goes something like this
>>
>> if you attack everyone,  you end up looking a twat and being ostracised
>>
>> so either grow up or fuck off
>
>I think I'll grow up, and you can do the fucking off !!!!   :-)
>

I was here long before you came along and I'll prolly be here long after 
you've gone thanks

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Date:Fri, 09 Sep 2005 19:35:33 GMT   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
"woodglass"  wrote in message 
news:CBiUe.33633$2n6.22886@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...

> I'm outta this playground !.


<waves>

Bysie bye!
Date:Fri, 9 Sep 2005 22:47:23 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
In article <9eiUe.17579$fb.4283@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, woodglass
<URL:mailto:abc@def.co.uk> wrote:


> If you are unaware of the original post why bother reading and replying to
> any threads ?.


*plonk*

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Date:Sat, 10 Sep 2005 08:32:32 +0100   Author:  

Re: Best way to deal with ants ?   
raden wrote:

> woodglass  writes
> >"raden" wrote
> >> woodglass writes
> >> >Is, by any chance your middle name Philip, Paul, or Peter ?
> >> >
> >> >woodglass...
> >> >
> >> Before we start getting offensive back, would you like to stop
> >> a) top posting and
> >> b) trying to wind people up
> >>
> >> there's a basic law of newsgroups which goes something like this
> >> if you attack everyone,  you end up looking a twat and being ostracised
> >> so either grow up or fuck off
> >
> >I think I'll grow up, and you can do the fucking off !!!!   :-)
>
> I was here long before you came along and I'll prolly be here long after
> you've gone thanks


<VBG> I think i've been killfiled after warning everyone about B&Q
lavs.

Never realised you were all so sensitive.

Either that, or no-one has a clue about wood floors :)

Paul.
Date:10 Sep 2005 06:18:59 -0700   Author: