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Courses in ESOL (English forSpeakers of Other Languages).
I have a friend from outside the EU wishing to study English (Intermediary
level) at a college registered with the Department of Education (I think
most are). Unfortunately the fees charged at most colleges seem exorbitant.
Does anyone know of any lower cost colleges that would make this more
affordable? Would prefer London, South East or South West.
Thanks.
Date:Sat, 3 Sep 2005 17:07:00 +0100
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Re: Courses in ESOL (English forSpeakers of Other Languages).
>I have a friend from outside the EU wishing to study English (Intermediary
>level) at a college registered with the Department of Education (I think
>most are). Unfortunately the fees charged at most colleges seem
>exorbitant.
More a reflection of having to pay the full commercial rate rather than a
subsidised one.
> Does anyone know of any lower cost colleges that would make this more
> affordable? Would prefer London, South East or South West.
These are likely to be cowboy outfits that are unregistered or are
immigration scammers.
Peter Crosland
Date:Sat, 3 Sep 2005 17:20:11 +0100
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Re: Courses in ESOL (English forSpeakers of Other Languages).
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> I have a friend from outside the EU wishing to study English (Intermediary
> level) at a college registered with the Department of Education (I think
> most are). Unfortunately the fees charged at most colleges seem exorbitant.
> Does anyone know of any lower cost colleges that would make this more
> affordable? Would prefer London, South East or South West.
Unfortunately this is how many Educational establishments make much of
their money and are hence able to subsidise UK students.
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Date:Sun, 4 Sep 2005 11:02:25 +0100
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Re: Courses in ESOL (English forSpeakers of Other Languages).
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> In article , spamtrap@spambouncer.org
> says...
>> I have a friend from outside the EU wishing to study English
>> (Intermediary
>> level) at a college registered with the Department of Education (I think
>> most are). Unfortunately the fees charged at most colleges seem
>> exorbitant.
>> Does anyone know of any lower cost colleges that would make this more
>> affordable? Would prefer London, South East or South West.
>
> Unfortunately this is how many Educational establishments make much of
> their money and are hence able to subsidise UK students.
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I remember when I took my Computer Science degree. The course fees per year
hovered around the 3.5K mark. For overseas students outside of the E.U.
this came in closer to 8.5K.
Most students often choose to go to other countries because of this kind of
cost difference.
AMO
Date:Sun, 4 Sep 2005 11:39:04 +0100
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Re: Courses in ESOL (English forSpeakers of Other Languages).
M wrote:
> I have a friend from outside the EU wishing to study English (Intermediary
> level) at a college registered with the Department of Education (I think
> most are). Unfortunately the fees charged at most colleges seem exorbitant.
> Does anyone know of any lower cost colleges that would make this more
> affordable? Would prefer London, South East or South West.
Accommodation costs will normally determine this, some courses are
residential, some "home-stay" but the least expensive are "make you own
arrangements".
So, if the friend can find somone to stay with near /any/ college that
doesn't insist on providing accommodation, it is likely to be the
cheapest solution.
It is possible to get a lot of free lessons. The colleges will be
running courses in teaching English as a foreign language and will need
volunteer students for the practice lessons that those courses require.
They cannot charge for these and such lessons are typically "all-comers".
By signing up for, and paying for, say mornings only lessons, the actual
hours can be doubled by going to the free ones.
The courses in "teaching the teachers" are not run continuously, so you
have to pick the dates - or go to somewhere like London with a lot of
colleges, one or more of which are pretty certain to have such a course
running at any time. The quality of the free lessons can be variable -
but students often make up for lack of experience with a great deal of
prep. and enthusiasm.
IME, best results come from "total immersion" courses where, from day 1,
if you don't speak English, you don't eat..
It is worth visiting the college and chatting to the staff (and present
students) before recommending anywhere to anyone. IME, some relatively
inexpensive, non-residential, schools deliver better results than
expensive residential ones with all the bells and whistles. A good sign
is that the college runs courses and can award teacher qualifications
based on its own internal (but externally moderated) assessments..
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Sue
Date:Sun, 04 Sep 2005 12:08:51 +0100
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Re: Courses in ESOL (English forSpeakers of Other Languages).
Palindr?me wrote:
> M wrote:
> > I have a friend from outside the EU wishing to study English
> > (Intermediary level) at a college registered with the Department of
> > Education (I think most are). Unfortunately the fees charged at most
> > colleges seem exorbitant. Does anyone know of any lower cost colleges
> > that would make this more affordable? Would prefer London, South East
> > or South West.
> ...IME, best results come from "total immersion" courses where, from day
> 1, if you don't speak English, you don't eat.. It is worth visiting the
> college and chatting to the staff (and present students) before
> recommending anywhere to anyone. IME, some relatively inexpensive,
> non-residential, schools deliver better results than expensive residential
> ones with all the bells and whistles. A good sign is that the college runs
> courses and can award teacher qualifications based on its own internal
> (but externally moderated) assessments..
Interesting! Years ago, I had acquaintances in the capital who came here
staying for a year or two solely for the perceived benefits of learning and
practicing the spoken English while living among the natives. Many of them
did attend language schools as well. Being not familiar with that scene, I
was surprised that there were many English teaching establishments dotted
around in Central London. Listening to what they learned I was not sure
they had good value for money in return. I wondered at one time if these
were more in fact local watering holes for foreign youngsters who had little
friends in a foreign country!
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Lin Chung
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Date:Sun, 04 Sep 2005 14:49:28 GMT
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