If I'm replacing the old rotten sashes (Well, The bottom rail is rotted)
with new sashes in an existing window (> 100year old), what do I have to
comply with as far as those silly building regs about new windows go?

Can I get away with this is a repair as opposed to a replacement?

TIA

Hamish.

Hi
I did this exact same thing recently and my opinion was that as they
were a repair/overhaul and not replacement or new.  In my opinon t
fensa registration for fitting windows is just more bureaucracy from
the Labour Government. If it really worries you try
http://www.odpm.gov.uk/stellent/groups/odpm_buildreg/documents/page/odpm_breg_600298.hcsp
or thereabouts.
If its any conciliation my window repairs have been visible to the BCO
for 3 weeks and not a word has been said.

Hamie wrote:

> If I'm replacing the old rotten sashes (Well, The bottom rail is rotted)
> with new sashes in an existing window (> 100year old), what do I have to
> comply with as far as those silly building regs about new windows go?


Nothing.



> Can I get away with this is a repair as opposed to a replacement?


Yes.

Hamie wrote:

> If I'm replacing the old rotten sashes (Well, The bottom rail is rotted)
> with new sashes in an existing window (> 100year old), what do I have to
> comply with as far as those silly building regs about new windows go?
> 
> Can I get away with this is a repair as opposed to a replacement?
> 
> TIA
> 
> Hamish.


The bottom rails and the joints always go.
Remarkably easy to repair with a tub of car body filler and a couple of 
big dowels. Did a couple of mine 15 years ago and they're still working 
fine.

Stuart Noble wrote:

> Hamie wrote:
> 
>> If I'm replacing the old rotten sashes (Well, The bottom rail is rotted)
>> with new sashes in an existing window (> 100year old), what do I have to
>> comply with as far as those silly building regs about new windows go?
>>
>> Can I get away with this is a repair as opposed to a replacement?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Hamish.
> 
> 
> The bottom rails and the joints always go.
> Remarkably easy to repair with a tub of car body filler and a couple of
> big dowels. Did a couple of mine 15 years ago and they're still working
> fine.


Yeah I did some of mine too that way. They look great. You'd never know
that they'd been in a bad way (I rebated some metal brackets in place too).

But in this case, there's almost no bottom rail left... When you pull
down on it, the glass is in danger of falling out... Nothing to put a
dowel into :)

H

Stuart Noble wrote:

> Hamie wrote:
> 
>> If I'm replacing the old rotten sashes (Well, The bottom rail is rotted)
>> with new sashes in an existing window (> 100year old), what do I have to
>> comply with as far as those silly building regs about new windows go?
>>
>> Can I get away with this is a repair as opposed to a replacement?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Hamish.
> 
> 
> The bottom rails and the joints always go.
> Remarkably easy to repair with a tub of car body filler and a couple of
> big dowels. Did a couple of mine 15 years ago and they're still working
> fine.


Yeah I did some of mine too that way. They look great. You'd never know
that they'd been in a bad way (I rebated some metal brackets in place too).

But in this case, there's almost no bottom rail left... When you pull
down on it, the glass is in danger of falling out... Nothing to put a
dowel into :)

H

Hamie wrote:

> Stuart Noble wrote:
> 
>>Hamie wrote:
>>
>>
>>>If I'm replacing the old rotten sashes (Well, The bottom rail is rotted)
>>>with new sashes in an existing window (> 100year old), what do I have to
>>>comply with as far as those silly building regs about new windows go?
>>>
>>>Can I get away with this is a repair as opposed to a replacement?
>>>
>>>TIA
>>>
>>>Hamish.
>>
>>
>>The bottom rails and the joints always go.
>>Remarkably easy to repair with a tub of car body filler and a couple of
>>big dowels. Did a couple of mine 15 years ago and they're still working
>>fine.
> 
> 
> Yeah I did some of mine too that way. They look great. You'd never know
> that they'd been in a bad way (I rebated some metal brackets in place too).
> 
> But in this case, there's almost no bottom rail left... When you pull
> down on it, the glass is in danger of falling out... Nothing to put a
> dowel into :)
> 
> H


Just buy a new bit of bottom rail?

Stuart Noble wrote:

> Hamie wrote:
> 
>> Stuart Noble wrote:
>>
>>> Hamie wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> If I'm replacing the old rotten sashes (Well, The bottom rail is
>>>> rotted)
>>>> with new sashes in an existing window (> 100year old), what do I
>>>> have to
>>>> comply with as far as those silly building regs about new windows go?
>>>>
>>>> Can I get away with this is a repair as opposed to a replacement?
>>>>
>>>> TIA
>>>>
>>>> Hamish.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The bottom rails and the joints always go.
>>> Remarkably easy to repair with a tub of car body filler and a couple of
>>> big dowels. Did a couple of mine 15 years ago and they're still working
>>> fine.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yeah I did some of mine too that way. They look great. You'd never know
>> that they'd been in a bad way (I rebated some metal brackets in place
>> too).
>>
>> But in this case, there's almost no bottom rail left... When you pull
>> down on it, the glass is in danger of falling out... Nothing to put a
>> dowel into :)
>>
>> H
> 
> 
> Just buy a new bit of bottom rail?


The bottom of the vertical pieces isn't too good either... Or a few
other patches...  Plus I'd need more tools etc... If I had the room, I
would doit, no questions asked... But in this case, I think I'll just
replace the sashes. besides, if I put double glazing in that room it
might be a bit warner (A cold upstairs room at the back of the house, it
has 3 outside walls... Lots of cold comes in the window, so it will
hopefully be better with double glazing... Of course it will then be the
only room with double glazing apart from the loft :)

H