"Dirty Sanchez"  wrote in message
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> Go on... I'll give you that. 'Tag' is Cumberland-speak for 'dog'...
>
> (from "The Plague Dogs" - Richard Adams, 1977)

Hadn't heard that one. I shall remember it now, though.

I guess with your family origins you may have heard the tinker cant word for
dog - I don't know how to spell it, but it's pronounced something like,
"shoogal" (maybe different south of the border of course). When I worked in
a pub in a village outside Edinburgh many years ago we had this old regular
customer - a traveller who now lived in a shabby cottage in the village -
who always had a wee scruffy dug with him. For years I thought its name was
Dougal until he explained it had no name and he was just calling it 'dog'.

ally

"a l l y"  wrote in message
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> "Dirty Sanchez"  wrote in message
> news:43185e5f$1_3@mk-nntp->
> > Go on... I'll give you that. 'Tag' is Cumberland-speak for 'dog'...
> >
> > (from "The Plague Dogs" - Richard Adams, 1977)
> Hadn't heard that one. I shall remember it now, though.
>
> I guess with your family origins you may have heard the tinker cant word
for
> dog - I don't know how to spell it, but it's pronounced something like,
> "shoogal" (maybe different south of the border of course). When I worked
in
> a pub in a village outside Edinburgh many years ago we had this old
regular
> customer - a traveller who now lived in a shabby cottage in the village -
> who always had a wee scruffy dug with him. For years I thought its name
was
> Dougal until he explained it had no name and he was just calling it 'dog'.
>
> ally


Toggle or Chugalug : It wasn't any of these then, Ally?

Edith guessing.

a l l y wrote:

> "Dirty Sanchez"  wrote in message
> news:43185e5f$1_3@mk-nntp->
>> Go on... I'll give you that. 'Tag' is Cumberland-speak for 'dog'...
>>
>> (from "The Plague Dogs" - Richard Adams, 1977)
> Hadn't heard that one. I shall remember it now, though.
>
> I guess with your family origins you may have heard the tinker cant
> word for dog - I don't know how to spell it, but it's pronounced
> something like, "shoogal" (maybe different south of the border of
> course). When I worked in a pub in a village outside Edinburgh many
> years ago we had this old regular customer - a traveller who now
> lived in a shabby cottage in the village - who always had a wee
> scruffy dug with him. For years I thought its name was Dougal until
> he explained it had no name and he was just calling it 'dog'.
> ally


It was most likely 'jckal' (pronounced like zhookal) or 'jook' - we 
generally used 'dogue' (doe-gi).

Kez. . .

"Dirty Sanchez"  wrote in message
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> a l l y wrote:
> > "Dirty Sanchez"  wrote in message
> > news:43185e5f$1_3@mk-nntp->
> >> Go on... I'll give you that. 'Tag' is Cumberland-speak for 'dog'...
> >>
> >> (from "The Plague Dogs" - Richard Adams, 1977)
> > Hadn't heard that one. I shall remember it now, though.
> >
> > I guess with your family origins you may have heard the tinker cant
> > word for dog - I don't know how to spell it, but it's pronounced
> > something like, "shoogal" (maybe different south of the border of
> > course). When I worked in a pub in a village outside Edinburgh many
> > years ago we had this old regular customer - a traveller who now
> > lived in a shabby cottage in the village - who always had a wee
> > scruffy dug with him. For years I thought its name was Dougal until
> > he explained it had no name and he was just calling it 'dog'.
> > ally
>
> It was most likely 'jckal' (pronounced like zhookal) or 'jook' - we
> generally used 'dogue' (doe-gi).
>
> Kez. . .


Jackal. Hm. Why not.

Edith.

The Traveller wrote:

> "Dirty Sanchez"  wrote in message
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> 
>>a l l y wrote:
>>
>>>"Dirty Sanchez"  wrote in message
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>>>
>>>>Go on... I'll give you that. 'Tag' is Cumberland-speak for 'dog'...
>>>>
>>>>(from "The Plague Dogs" - Richard Adams, 1977)
>>>
>>>Hadn't heard that one. I shall remember it now, though.
>>>
>>>I guess with your family origins you may have heard the tinker cant
>>>word for dog - I don't know how to spell it, but it's pronounced
>>>something like, "shoogal" (maybe different south of the border of
>>>course). When I worked in a pub in a village outside Edinburgh many
>>>years ago we had this old regular customer - a traveller who now
>>>lived in a shabby cottage in the village - who always had a wee
>>>scruffy dug with him. For years I thought its name was Dougal until
>>>he explained it had no name and he was just calling it 'dog'.
>>>ally
>>
>>It was most likely 'jckal' (pronounced like zhookal) or 'jook' - we
>>generally used 'dogue' (doe-gi).
>>
>>Kez. . .
> 
> 
> Jackal. Hm. Why not.
> 
> Edith.
> 
> 

Moddey in Manx


UkuleleRon

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"Dirty Sanchez"  wrote in message 
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> It was most likely 'jckal' (pronounced like zhookal) or 'jook' - we 
> generally used 'dogue' (doe-gi).
>

Aha! Yes, that sounds about right, and with Old Joe's very thick Scottish 
accent it could easily sound like 'shoogal'.

(I call my dogs 'doggie' too....)

He used to stand at the bar for hours while I worked in that pub, and every 
time I passed he'd start telling me these long stories. I'd understand maybe 
one word in 6. I've no idea what he was telling me. His language was a 
mixture of tinker cant and some strong local Scots accent from somewhere 
like Buchan, (quite unlike the Edinburgh accent anyway) and it didn't help 
that he was never sober. I wish I could have deciphered more of what he 
said. Some of these old travellers' tales would be worth preserving.

Mind you, despite all this, and the fact that I don't think he'd ever taken 
a bath (judging by the smell) we were all very fond of him, and it was a sad 
day when he died and his wee cottage went up for sale.

ally

"Ron(UK)"  wrote in message 
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> Moddey in Manx
>

That's interesting. The Gaelic for 'dog' is either 'cu' or 'madadh' 
pronounced 'mad-u' which is obviously quite similar.

ally-owner-of-Gaelic-dictionary

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> "Ron(UK)"  wrote in message
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> > Moddey in Manx
> >
> That's interesting. The Gaelic for 'dog' is either 'cu' or 'madadh'
> pronounced 'mad-u' which is obviously quite similar.
>
> ally-owner-of-Gaelic-dictionary
>

Finns call them koira. Norwegians call them hund

Spaniards call them perro