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Outside PIR Lights   
This site has some good information and a super working example about 
dazzle.

http://www.star.le.ac.uk/~dbl/cfds/floodlights.html?0O

Soon be time for dark evenings and the paper delivery boy will be causing 
the houses across the road to be lit up!


John
Date:Thu, 01 Sep 2005 19:49:14 GMT   Author:  

Re: Outside PIR Lights   
john was thinking very hard :

> This site has some good information and a super working example about dazzle.
>
> http://www.star.le.ac.uk/~dbl/cfds/floodlights.html?0O
>
> Soon be time for dark evenings and the paper delivery boy will be causing the 
> houses across the road to be lit up!
>
>
> John


The problem with many combined PIR security lights is that the light 
can only be tilted down so far, until it starts to force the PIR to 
also look down at the ground.

Referring to the above URL, if no research has been down as to the 
deterance value of PIR operated flood lights, how can they express an 
opinion as to their value? Aside from the deterance value, they are 
also of value for the owners to see their own way around.

-- 

Regards,
        Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.org
Date:Thu, 01 Sep 2005 21:13:04 +0100   Author:  

Re: Outside PIR Lights   
"Harry Bloomfield"  wrote in message 
news:mn.0cf97d592c6511e3.8412@tiscali.co.uk...

> john was thinking very hard :
>> This site has some good information and a super working example about 
>> dazzle.
>>
>> http://www.star.le.ac.uk/~dbl/cfds/floodlights.html?0O
>>
>> Soon be time for dark evenings and the paper delivery boy will be causing 
>> the houses across the road to be lit up!
>>
>>
>> John
>
> The problem with many combined PIR security lights is that the light can 
> only be tilted down so far, until it starts to force the PIR to also look 
> down at the ground.
>
> Referring to the above URL, if no research has been down as to the 
> deterance value of PIR operated flood lights, how can they express an 
> opinion as to their value? Aside from the deterance value, they are also 
> of value for the owners to see their own way around.
>
> -- 
>
> Regards,
>        Harry (M1BYT) (L)
> http://www.ukradioamateur.org
>
>

I have my drive illuminated by a light pointing almost verticallty down - 
the PIR senses the whole drive effectively without modifications.
The point of the site is to illustrate that pointing downwards is more 
effective.
Date:Thu, 01 Sep 2005 20:40:04 GMT   Author:  

Re: Outside PIR Lights   
john submitted this idea :

> I have my drive illuminated by a light pointing almost verticallty down - the 
> PIR senses the whole drive effectively without modifications.
> The point of the site is to illustrate that pointing downwards is more 
> effective.


I agree fully with the effectiveness, I am just critical of some of the 
designs of PIR light.

-- 

Regards,
        Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.org
Date:Thu, 01 Sep 2005 21:43:38 +0100   Author:  

Re: Outside PIR Lights   
"Harry Bloomfield"  wrote in message 
news:mn.0d177d59ab3d95a9.8412@tiscali.co.uk...

> john submitted this idea :
>> I have my drive illuminated by a light pointing almost verticallty down - 
>> the PIR senses the whole drive effectively without modifications.
>> The point of the site is to illustrate that pointing downwards is more 
>> effective.
>
> I agree fully with the effectiveness, I am just critical of some of the 
> designs of PIR light.
>
> -- 
>
> Regards,
>        Harry (M1BYT) (L)
> http://www.ukradioamateur.org
>
>

I agree - but mounting higher can help. On an estate I drive through people 
use them as porch lights!
Date:Thu, 01 Sep 2005 22:06:03 GMT   Author:  

Re: Outside PIR Lights   
"Harry Bloomfield"  verbally sodomised 
in news:mn.0cf97d592c6511e3.8412@tiscali.co.uk: 


> john was thinking very hard :
>> This site has some good information and a super working example about
>> dazzle. 
>>
>> http://www.star.le.ac.uk/~dbl/cfds/floodlights.html?0O
>>
>> Soon be time for dark evenings and the paper delivery boy will be
>> causing the houses across the road to be lit up!
>>
>>
>> John
> 
> The problem with many combined PIR security lights is that the light 
> can only be tilted down so far, until it starts to force the PIR to 
> also look down at the ground.
> 
> Referring to the above URL, if no research has been down as to the 
> deterance value of PIR operated flood lights, how can they express an 
> opinion as to their value? Aside from the deterance value, they are 
> also of value for the owners to see their own way around.
> 


How do you know they have deterance value if no research has been carried
out? 

-- 
Phil Kyle  
Uno
Dos
Tres
Cuatro
CINCO!!!!!!

"Be very aware that my willingness 
to continue to criticise your sig 
is infinite." -- Neil Barker
Date:Thu, 1 Sep 2005 23:32:28 +0000 (UTC)   Author:  

Re: Outside PIR Lights   
"Harry Bloomfield"  verbally sodomised 
in news:mn.0d177d59ab3d95a9.8412@tiscali.co.uk: 


> john submitted this idea :
>> I have my drive illuminated by a light pointing almost verticallty down
>> - the PIR senses the whole drive effectively without modifications.
>> The point of the site is to illustrate that pointing downwards is more 
>> effective.
> 
> I agree fully with the effectiveness, I am just critical of some of the 
> designs of PIR light.
> 


You should write a letter of complaint.

-- 
Phil Kyle  
Uno
Dos
Tres
Cuatro
CINCO!!!!!!

"Be very aware that my willingness 
to continue to criticise your sig 
is infinite." -- Neil Barker
Date:Thu, 1 Sep 2005 23:33:05 +0000 (UTC)   Author:  

Re: Outside PIR Lights   
"Harry Bloomfield"  verbally sodomised 
in news:mn.0cf97d592c6511e3.8412@tiscali.co.uk: 


> john was thinking very hard :
>> This site has some good information and a super working example about
>> dazzle. 
>>
>> http://www.star.le.ac.uk/~dbl/cfds/floodlights.html?0O
>>
>> Soon be time for dark evenings and the paper delivery boy will be
>> causing the houses across the road to be lit up!
>>
>>
>> John
> 
> The problem with many combined PIR security lights is that the light 
> can only be tilted down so far, until it starts to force the PIR to 
> also look down at the ground.
> 
> Referring to the above URL, if no research has been down as to the 
> deterance value of PIR operated flood lights, how can they express an 
> opinion as to their value? Aside from the deterance value, they are 
> also of value for the owners to see their own way around.
> 


How do you know they have deterance value if no research has been carried
out? 

-- 
Phil Kyle  
Uno
Dos
Tres
Cuatro
CINCO!!!!!!

"Be very aware that my willingness 
to continue to criticise your sig 
is infinite." -- Neil Barker
Date:Thu, 1 Sep 2005 23:32:28 +0000 (UTC)   Author:  

Re: Outside PIR Lights   
"Harry Bloomfield"  verbally sodomised 
in news:mn.0d177d59ab3d95a9.8412@tiscali.co.uk: 


> john submitted this idea :
>> I have my drive illuminated by a light pointing almost verticallty down
>> - the PIR senses the whole drive effectively without modifications.
>> The point of the site is to illustrate that pointing downwards is more 
>> effective.
> 
> I agree fully with the effectiveness, I am just critical of some of the 
> designs of PIR light.
> 


You should write a letter of complaint.

-- 
Phil Kyle  
Uno
Dos
Tres
Cuatro
CINCO!!!!!!

"Be very aware that my willingness 
to continue to criticise your sig 
is infinite." -- Neil Barker
Date:Thu, 1 Sep 2005 23:33:05 +0000 (UTC)   Author:  

Re: Outside PIR Lights   
"Harry Bloomfield"  verbally sodomised 
in news:mn.0cf97d592c6511e3.8412@tiscali.co.uk: 


> john was thinking very hard :
>> This site has some good information and a super working example about
>> dazzle. 
>>
>> http://www.star.le.ac.uk/~dbl/cfds/floodlights.html?0O
>>
>> Soon be time for dark evenings and the paper delivery boy will be
>> causing the houses across the road to be lit up!
>>
>>
>> John
> 
> The problem with many combined PIR security lights is that the light 
> can only be tilted down so far, until it starts to force the PIR to 
> also look down at the ground.
> 
> Referring to the above URL, if no research has been down as to the 
> deterance value of PIR operated flood lights, how can they express an 
> opinion as to their value? Aside from the deterance value, they are 
> also of value for the owners to see their own way around.
> 


How do you know they have deterance value if no research has been carried
out? 

-- 
Phil Kyle  
Uno
Dos
Tres
Cuatro
CINCO!!!!!!

"Be very aware that my willingness 
to continue to criticise your sig 
is infinite." -- Neil Barker
Date:Thu, 1 Sep 2005 23:32:28 +0000 (UTC)   Author:  

Re: Outside PIR Lights   
"Harry Bloomfield"  verbally sodomised 
in news:mn.0d177d59ab3d95a9.8412@tiscali.co.uk: 


> john submitted this idea :
>> I have my drive illuminated by a light pointing almost verticallty down
>> - the PIR senses the whole drive effectively without modifications.
>> The point of the site is to illustrate that pointing downwards is more 
>> effective.
> 
> I agree fully with the effectiveness, I am just critical of some of the 
> designs of PIR light.
> 


You should write a letter of complaint.

-- 
Phil Kyle  
Uno
Dos
Tres
Cuatro
CINCO!!!!!!

"Be very aware that my willingness 
to continue to criticise your sig 
is infinite." -- Neil Barker
Date:Thu, 1 Sep 2005 23:33:05 +0000 (UTC)   Author:  

Re: Outside PIR Lights   
"Harry Bloomfield"  verbally sodomised 
in news:mn.0cf97d592c6511e3.8412@tiscali.co.uk: 


> john was thinking very hard :
>> This site has some good information and a super working example about
>> dazzle. 
>>
>> http://www.star.le.ac.uk/~dbl/cfds/floodlights.html?0O
>>
>> Soon be time for dark evenings and the paper delivery boy will be
>> causing the houses across the road to be lit up!
>>
>>
>> John
> 
> The problem with many combined PIR security lights is that the light 
> can only be tilted down so far, until it starts to force the PIR to 
> also look down at the ground.
> 
> Referring to the above URL, if no research has been down as to the 
> deterance value of PIR operated flood lights, how can they express an 
> opinion as to their value? Aside from the deterance value, they are 
> also of value for the owners to see their own way around.
> 


How do you know they have deterance value if no research has been carried
out? 

-- 
Phil Kyle  
Uno
Dos
Tres
Cuatro
CINCO!!!!!!

"Be very aware that my willingness 
to continue to criticise your sig 
is infinite." -- Neil Barker
Date:Thu, 1 Sep 2005 23:32:28 +0000 (UTC)   Author:  

Re: Outside PIR Lights   
"Harry Bloomfield"  verbally sodomised 
in news:mn.0d177d59ab3d95a9.8412@tiscali.co.uk: 


> john submitted this idea :
>> I have my drive illuminated by a light pointing almost verticallty down
>> - the PIR senses the whole drive effectively without modifications.
>> The point of the site is to illustrate that pointing downwards is more 
>> effective.
> 
> I agree fully with the effectiveness, I am just critical of some of the 
> designs of PIR light.
> 


You should write a letter of complaint.

-- 
Phil Kyle  
Uno
Dos
Tres
Cuatro
CINCO!!!!!!

"Be very aware that my willingness 
to continue to criticise your sig 
is infinite." -- Neil Barker
Date:Thu, 1 Sep 2005 23:33:05 +0000 (UTC)   Author:  

Re: Outside PIR Lights   
"Harry Bloomfield"  verbally sodomised 
in news:mn.0cf97d592c6511e3.8412@tiscali.co.uk: 


> john was thinking very hard :
>> This site has some good information and a super working example about
>> dazzle. 
>>
>> http://www.star.le.ac.uk/~dbl/cfds/floodlights.html?0O
>>
>> Soon be time for dark evenings and the paper delivery boy will be
>> causing the houses across the road to be lit up!
>>
>>
>> John
> 
> The problem with many combined PIR security lights is that the light 
> can only be tilted down so far, until it starts to force the PIR to 
> also look down at the ground.
> 
> Referring to the above URL, if no research has been down as to the 
> deterance value of PIR operated flood lights, how can they express an 
> opinion as to their value? Aside from the deterance value, they are 
> also of value for the owners to see their own way around.
> 


How do you know they have deterance value if no research has been carried
out? 

-- 
Phil Kyle  
Uno
Dos
Tres
Cuatro
CINCO!!!!!!

"Be very aware that my willingness 
to continue to criticise your sig 
is infinite." -- Neil Barker
Date:Thu, 1 Sep 2005 23:32:28 +0000 (UTC)   Author:  

Re: Outside PIR Lights   
"Harry Bloomfield"  verbally sodomised 
in news:mn.0d177d59ab3d95a9.8412@tiscali.co.uk: 


> john submitted this idea :
>> I have my drive illuminated by a light pointing almost verticallty down
>> - the PIR senses the whole drive effectively without modifications.
>> The point of the site is to illustrate that pointing downwards is more 
>> effective.
> 
> I agree fully with the effectiveness, I am just critical of some of the 
> designs of PIR light.
> 


You should write a letter of complaint.

-- 
Phil Kyle  
Uno
Dos
Tres
Cuatro
CINCO!!!!!!

"Be very aware that my willingness 
to continue to criticise your sig 
is infinite." -- Neil Barker
Date:Thu, 1 Sep 2005 23:33:05 +0000 (UTC)   Author:  

Re: Outside PIR Lights   
Phillip Kyle wrote:

> "Harry Bloomfield"  verbally sodomised 
> in news:mn.0cf97d592c6511e3.8412@tiscali.co.uk: 
> 
> 
>>john was thinking very hard :
>>
>>>This site has some good information and a super working example about
>>>dazzle. 
>>>
>>>http://www.star.le.ac.uk/~dbl/cfds/floodlights.html?0O
>>>
>>>Soon be time for dark evenings and the paper delivery boy will be
>>>causing the houses across the road to be lit up!
>>>
>>>
>>>John
>>
>>The problem with many combined PIR security lights is that the light 
>>can only be tilted down so far, until it starts to force the PIR to 
>>also look down at the ground.
>>
>>Referring to the above URL, if no research has been down as to the 
>>deterance value of PIR operated flood lights, how can they express an 
>>opinion as to their value? Aside from the deterance value, they are 
>>also of value for the owners to see their own way around.
>>
> 
> 
> How do you know they have deterance value if no research has been carried
> out? 
> 

Kill filed!
Date:Sat, 03 Sep 2005 12:10:40 +0100   Author:  

Re: Outside PIR Lights   
Phillip Kyle wrote:

> "Harry Bloomfield"  verbally sodomised 
> in news:mn.0cf97d592c6511e3.8412@tiscali.co.uk: 
> 
> 
>>john was thinking very hard :
>>
>>>This site has some good information and a super working example about
>>>dazzle. 
>>>
>>>http://www.star.le.ac.uk/~dbl/cfds/floodlights.html?0O
>>>
>>>Soon be time for dark evenings and the paper delivery boy will be
>>>causing the houses across the road to be lit up!
>>>
>>>
>>>John
>>
>>The problem with many combined PIR security lights is that the light 
>>can only be tilted down so far, until it starts to force the PIR to 
>>also look down at the ground.
>>
>>Referring to the above URL, if no research has been down as to the 
>>deterance value of PIR operated flood lights, how can they express an 
>>opinion as to their value? Aside from the deterance value, they are 
>>also of value for the owners to see their own way around.
>>
> 
> 
> How do you know they have deterance value if no research has been carried
> out? 
> 

Kill filed!
Date:Sat, 03 Sep 2005 12:10:40 +0100   Author:  

Re: Outside PIR Lights   
Phillip Kyle wrote:

> "Harry Bloomfield"  verbally sodomised 
> in news:mn.0cf97d592c6511e3.8412@tiscali.co.uk: 
> 
> 
>>john was thinking very hard :
>>
>>>This site has some good information and a super working example about
>>>dazzle. 
>>>
>>>http://www.star.le.ac.uk/~dbl/cfds/floodlights.html?0O
>>>
>>>Soon be time for dark evenings and the paper delivery boy will be
>>>causing the houses across the road to be lit up!
>>>
>>>
>>>John
>>
>>The problem with many combined PIR security lights is that the light 
>>can only be tilted down so far, until it starts to force the PIR to 
>>also look down at the ground.
>>
>>Referring to the above URL, if no research has been down as to the 
>>deterance value of PIR operated flood lights, how can they express an 
>>opinion as to their value? Aside from the deterance value, they are 
>>also of value for the owners to see their own way around.
>>
> 
> 
> How do you know they have deterance value if no research has been carried
> out? 
> 

Kill filed!
Date:Sat, 03 Sep 2005 12:10:40 +0100   Author:  

Re: Outside PIR Lights   
Phillip Kyle wrote:

> "Harry Bloomfield"  verbally sodomised 
> in news:mn.0cf97d592c6511e3.8412@tiscali.co.uk: 
> 
> 
>>john was thinking very hard :
>>
>>>This site has some good information and a super working example about
>>>dazzle. 
>>>
>>>http://www.star.le.ac.uk/~dbl/cfds/floodlights.html?0O
>>>
>>>Soon be time for dark evenings and the paper delivery boy will be
>>>causing the houses across the road to be lit up!
>>>
>>>
>>>John
>>
>>The problem with many combined PIR security lights is that the light 
>>can only be tilted down so far, until it starts to force the PIR to 
>>also look down at the ground.
>>
>>Referring to the above URL, if no research has been down as to the 
>>deterance value of PIR operated flood lights, how can they express an 
>>opinion as to their value? Aside from the deterance value, they are 
>>also of value for the owners to see their own way around.
>>
> 
> 
> How do you know they have deterance value if no research has been carried
> out? 
> 

Kill filed!
Date:Sat, 03 Sep 2005 12:10:40 +0100   Author:  

Re: Outside PIR Lights   
On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 12:10:40 +0100, Nick  wrote:


>Phillip Kyle wrote:
>> 
>> How do you know they have deterance value if no research has been carried
>> out? 
>> 
>Kill filed!


Isn't that philed?
-- 

Ian
Date:Sat, 03 Sep 2005 14:59:43 +0100   Author:  

Re: Outside PIR Lights   
In article ,
 Ian Dalziel  wrote:


> On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 12:10:40 +0100, Nick  wrote:
> 
> >Phillip Kyle wrote:
> >> 
> >> How do you know they have deterance value if no research has been carried
> >> out? 
> >> 
> >Kill filed!
> 
> Isn't that philed?


Bravo... at last someone has spotted the spoonerism.

-- 
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Date:Sat, 03 Sep 2005 15:42:36 +0100   Author:  

Re: Outside PIR Lights   
Phillip Kyle wrote:

> "Harry Bloomfield"  verbally sodomised 
> in news:mn.0cf97d592c6511e3.8412@tiscali.co.uk: 
> 
> 
>>john was thinking very hard :
>>
>>>This site has some good information and a super working example about
>>>dazzle. 
>>>
>>>http://www.star.le.ac.uk/~dbl/cfds/floodlights.html?0O
>>>
>>>Soon be time for dark evenings and the paper delivery boy will be
>>>causing the houses across the road to be lit up!
>>>
>>>
>>>John
>>
>>The problem with many combined PIR security lights is that the light 
>>can only be tilted down so far, until it starts to force the PIR to 
>>also look down at the ground.
>>
>>Referring to the above URL, if no research has been down as to the 
>>deterance value of PIR operated flood lights, how can they express an 
>>opinion as to their value? Aside from the deterance value, they are 
>>also of value for the owners to see their own way around.
>>
> 
> 
> How do you know they have deterance value if no research has been carried
> out? 
> 

Kill filed!
Date:Sat, 03 Sep 2005 12:10:40 +0100   Author:  

Re: Outside PIR Lights   
Nick  verbally sodomised  in
news:43198492$0$29902$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net: 


> Phillip Kyle wrote:
>> "Harry Bloomfield"  verbally sodomised
>> in news:mn.0cf97d592c6511e3.8412@tiscali.co.uk: 
>> 
>> 
>>>john was thinking very hard :
>>>
>>>>This site has some good information and a super working example about
>>>>dazzle. 
>>>>
>>>>http://www.star.le.ac.uk/~dbl/cfds/floodlights.html?0O
>>>>
>>>>Soon be time for dark evenings and the paper delivery boy will be
>>>>causing the houses across the road to be lit up!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>John
>>>
>>>The problem with many combined PIR security lights is that the light 
>>>can only be tilted down so far, until it starts to force the PIR to 
>>>also look down at the ground.
>>>
>>>Referring to the above URL, if no research has been down as to the 
>>>deterance value of PIR operated flood lights, how can they express an 
>>>opinion as to their value? Aside from the deterance value, they are 
>>>also of value for the owners to see their own way around.
>>>
>> 
>> 
>> How do you know they have deterance value if no research has been
>> carried out? 
>> 
> Kill filed!
> 


You can't handle the truth.

-- 
Phil Kyle  
Uno
Dos
Tres
Cuatro
CINCO!!!!!!

"Be very aware that my willingness 
to continue to criticise your sig 
is infinite." -- Neil Barker
Date:Sat, 3 Sep 2005 16:37:19 +0000 (UTC)   Author:  

Re: Outside PIR Lights   
Nick  verbally sodomised  in
news:43198492$0$29902$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net: 


> Phillip Kyle wrote:
>> "Harry Bloomfield"  verbally sodomised
>> in news:mn.0cf97d592c6511e3.8412@tiscali.co.uk: 
>> 
>> 
>>>john was thinking very hard :
>>>
>>>>This site has some good information and a super working example about
>>>>dazzle. 
>>>>
>>>>http://www.star.le.ac.uk/~dbl/cfds/floodlights.html?0O
>>>>
>>>>Soon be time for dark evenings and the paper delivery boy will be
>>>>causing the houses across the road to be lit up!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>John
>>>
>>>The problem with many combined PIR security lights is that the light 
>>>can only be tilted down so far, until it starts to force the PIR to 
>>>also look down at the ground.
>>>
>>>Referring to the above URL, if no research has been down as to the 
>>>deterance value of PIR operated flood lights, how can they express an 
>>>opinion as to their value? Aside from the deterance value, they are 
>>>also of value for the owners to see their own way around.
>>>
>> 
>> 
>> How do you know they have deterance value if no research has been
>> carried out? 
>> 
> Kill filed!
> 


You can't handle the truth.

-- 
Phil Kyle  
Uno
Dos
Tres
Cuatro
CINCO!!!!!!

"Be very aware that my willingness 
to continue to criticise your sig 
is infinite." -- Neil Barker
Date:Sat, 3 Sep 2005 16:37:19 +0000 (UTC)   Author:  

Re: Outside PIR Lights   
Nick  verbally sodomised  in
news:43198492$0$29902$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net: 


> Phillip Kyle wrote:
>> "Harry Bloomfield"  verbally sodomised
>> in news:mn.0cf97d592c6511e3.8412@tiscali.co.uk: 
>> 
>> 
>>>john was thinking very hard :
>>>
>>>>This site has some good information and a super working example about
>>>>dazzle. 
>>>>
>>>>http://www.star.le.ac.uk/~dbl/cfds/floodlights.html?0O
>>>>
>>>>Soon be time for dark evenings and the paper delivery boy will be
>>>>causing the houses across the road to be lit up!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>John
>>>
>>>The problem with many combined PIR security lights is that the light 
>>>can only be tilted down so far, until it starts to force the PIR to 
>>>also look down at the ground.
>>>
>>>Referring to the above URL, if no research has been down as to the 
>>>deterance value of PIR operated flood lights, how can they express an 
>>>opinion as to their value? Aside from the deterance value, they are 
>>>also of value for the owners to see their own way around.
>>>
>> 
>> 
>> How do you know they have deterance value if no research has been
>> carried out? 
>> 
> Kill filed!
> 


You can't handle the truth.

-- 
Phil Kyle  
Uno
Dos
Tres
Cuatro
CINCO!!!!!!

"Be very aware that my willingness 
to continue to criticise your sig 
is infinite." -- Neil Barker
Date:Sat, 3 Sep 2005 16:37:19 +0000 (UTC)   Author:  

Re: Outside PIR Lights   
Nick  verbally sodomised  in
news:43198492$0$29902$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net: 


> Phillip Kyle wrote:
>> "Harry Bloomfield"  verbally sodomised
>> in news:mn.0cf97d592c6511e3.8412@tiscali.co.uk: 
>> 
>> 
>>>john was thinking very hard :
>>>
>>>>This site has some good information and a super working example about
>>>>dazzle. 
>>>>
>>>>http://www.star.le.ac.uk/~dbl/cfds/floodlights.html?0O
>>>>
>>>>Soon be time for dark evenings and the paper delivery boy will be
>>>>causing the houses across the road to be lit up!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>John
>>>
>>>The problem with many combined PIR security lights is that the light 
>>>can only be tilted down so far, until it starts to force the PIR to 
>>>also look down at the ground.
>>>
>>>Referring to the above URL, if no research has been down as to the 
>>>deterance value of PIR operated flood lights, how can they express an 
>>>opinion as to their value? Aside from the deterance value, they are 
>>>also of value for the owners to see their own way around.
>>>
>> 
>> 
>> How do you know they have deterance value if no research has been
>> carried out? 
>> 
> Kill filed!
> 


You can't handle the truth.

-- 
Phil Kyle  
Uno
Dos
Tres
Cuatro
CINCO!!!!!!

"Be very aware that my willingness 
to continue to criticise your sig 
is infinite." -- Neil Barker
Date:Sat, 3 Sep 2005 16:37:19 +0000 (UTC)   Author:  

Re: Outside PIR Lights   
Nick  verbally sodomised  in
news:43198492$0$29902$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net: 


> Phillip Kyle wrote:
>> "Harry Bloomfield"  verbally sodomised
>> in news:mn.0cf97d592c6511e3.8412@tiscali.co.uk: 
>> 
>> 
>>>john was thinking very hard :
>>>
>>>>This site has some good information and a super working example about
>>>>dazzle. 
>>>>
>>>>http://www.star.le.ac.uk/~dbl/cfds/floodlights.html?0O
>>>>
>>>>Soon be time for dark evenings and the paper delivery boy will be
>>>>causing the houses across the road to be lit up!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>John
>>>
>>>The problem with many combined PIR security lights is that the light 
>>>can only be tilted down so far, until it starts to force the PIR to 
>>>also look down at the ground.
>>>
>>>Referring to the above URL, if no research has been down as to the 
>>>deterance value of PIR operated flood lights, how can they express an 
>>>opinion as to their value? Aside from the deterance value, they are 
>>>also of value for the owners to see their own way around.
>>>
>> 
>> 
>> How do you know they have deterance value if no research has been
>> carried out? 
>> 
> Kill filed!
> 


You can't handle the truth.

-- 
Phil Kyle  
Uno
Dos
Tres
Cuatro
CINCO!!!!!!

"Be very aware that my willingness 
to continue to criticise your sig 
is infinite." -- Neil Barker
Date:Sat, 3 Sep 2005 16:37:19 +0000 (UTC)   Author: