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Hi, I'm refurbing my 1820s cottage.  it has plastic square stuff fitted, 
which i want to replace with something more in keeping with the cottage 
style.  what's available out there?

steve
Date:Wed, 31 Aug 2005 09:22:57 +0100   Author:  

Re: Guttering   
r.p.mcmurphy wrote:

> Hi, I'm refurbing my 1820s cottage.  it has plastic square stuff fitted, 
> which i want to replace with something more in keeping with the cottage 
> style.  what's available out there?
> 
> steve 
> 
> 


I like the look of the screwfix alum. stuff 
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/cat.jsp?ts=79026&id=101610 but can't 
  afford it for the whole house.

Reclaimed iron stuff from a salvage/reclamation yard would do the trick 
but might be more effort intensive to refurbish.

I believe that you can now get new metal guttering to fit old iron 
systems so a mix and match approach is possible - try your local BMs etc 
they might have something like this.

HTH,

Alex.
Date:Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:09:41 +0100   Author:  

Re: Guttering   
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 09:22:57 +0100, "r.p.mcmurphy"
 wrote:

| Hi, I'm refurbing my 1820s cottage.  it has plastic square stuff fitted, 
| which i want to replace with something more in keeping with the cottage 
| style.  what's available out there?

Seen some black extruded/rolled aluminium stuff on an old house which
looked fine.

http://www.rainguard.co.uk/rainwater/aluminium/xlgp.cfm
Several types available, this is the one which Google produced. 

This needs a machine in the back of a van to produce.  Look for a small
firm which does them in your area.

-- 
Dave Fawthrop <dave hyphenologist co uk> 
"Intelligent Design?" my knees say *not*.
"Intelligent Design?" my back says *not*.
Date:Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:26:45 +0100   Author:  

Re: Guttering   
"r.p.mcmurphy"  wrote in message 
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> Hi, I'm refurbing my 1820s cottage.  it has plastic square stuff fitted, 
> which i want to replace with something more in keeping with the cottage 
> style.  what's available out there?


I think you'll find the best stuff is the extruded aluminium, which you can 
get pre-finished (powder coated) - 'Stormguard' is one make.  You can get it 
in appropriate profiles to look like cast iron.  There's a cast aluminium 
product which looks even more like cast iron (it has the proper sockets), 
but I don't know anything about that.

This is a completely different product to the rolled 'seamless guttering' 
crap which they make in the back of a van (or is it on the back of a horse?)


Will
Date:Wed, 31 Aug 2005 11:14:50 +0100   Author:  

Re: Guttering   
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 11:14:50 +0100, "Will Dean" 
wrote:

| "r.p.mcmurphy"  wrote in message 
| news:431568e3$0$1300$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
| > Hi, I'm refurbing my 1820s cottage.  it has plastic square stuff fitted, 
| > which i want to replace with something more in keeping with the cottage 
| > style.  what's available out there?
| 
| I think you'll find the best stuff is the extruded aluminium, which you can 
| get pre-finished (powder coated) - 'Stormguard' is one make.  You can get it 
| in appropriate profiles to look like cast iron.  There's a cast aluminium 
| product which looks even more like cast iron (it has the proper sockets), 
| but I don't know anything about that.
| 
| This is a completely different product to the rolled 'seamless guttering' 
| crap which they make in the back of a van (or is it on the back of a horse?)

Seen that put on a *builder's* own 1850s house. Looked good to me.

-- 
Dave Fawthrop <dave hyphenologist co uk> 
"Intelligent Design?" my knees say *not*.
"Intelligent Design?" my back says *not*.
Date:Wed, 31 Aug 2005 11:59:44 +0100   Author:  

Re: Guttering   
"Will Dean"  wrote in message 
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> "r.p.mcmurphy"  wrote in message 
> news:431568e3$0$1300$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
>> Hi, I'm refurbing my 1820s cottage.  it has plastic square stuff fitted, 
>> which i want to replace with something more in keeping with the cottage 
>> style.  what's available out there?
>
> I think you'll find the best stuff is the extruded aluminium, which you 
> can get pre-finished (powder coated) - 'Stormguard' is one make.  You can 
> get it in appropriate profiles to look like cast iron.  There's a cast 
> aluminium product which looks even more like cast iron (it has the proper 
> sockets), but I don't know anything about that.
>
> This is a completely different product to the rolled 'seamless guttering' 
> crap which they make in the back of a van (or is it on the back of a 
> horse?)


The rolled seamless aluminium guttering which was made in the back of a van 
we have is anything but crap. It's excellent, strong, deep and looks like 
cast iron from the ground. I had my doubts but now I'm converted.

What's your experience? Or are you making a judgement withour experience?

Mary

>
>
> Will
>
>
>
> 
Date:Wed, 31 Aug 2005 12:14:05 +0100   Author:  

Re: Guttering   
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Will Dean   wrote:


>
> This is a completely different product to the rolled 'seamless
> guttering' crap which they make in the back of a van (or is it on the
> back of a horse?)
>

What's your objection to this stuff? It may not be suitable for the OP, but
it's fine on more modern properties - and a *lot* less problematical than
plastic guttering.
-- 
Cheers,
Set Square
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Date:Wed, 31 Aug 2005 12:19:42 +0100   Author:  

Re: Guttering   
I'm refurbishing my garden shed. where can I purchase new guttering
Date:31 Aug 2005 04:32:46 -0700   Author:  

Re: Guttering   
alex wrote:

> I'm refurbishing my garden shed. where can I purchase new guttering
> 


Loads of places...

Wickes, B&Q, Homebase? Screwfix, Focus? Most builders merchants. Many 
local DIY shops...
Date:Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:06:12 +0100   Author:  

Re: Guttering   
"alex"  wrote in message 
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> I'm refurbishing my garden shed. where can I purchase new guttering



I did the same and wanted 76mm (3") guttering. I got mine on line from

http://www.master-plastics.co.uk/

and very good it was too.

Bob Mannix

> 
Date:Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:39:25 +0100   Author:  

Re: Guttering   
how much did this cost?

steve

"Mary Fisher"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Will Dean"  wrote in message 
> news:4315831a$0$38041$bed64819@news.gradwell.net...
>> "r.p.mcmurphy"  wrote in message 
>> news:431568e3$0$1300$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
>>> Hi, I'm refurbing my 1820s cottage.  it has plastic square stuff fitted, 
>>> which i want to replace with something more in keeping with the cottage 
>>> style.  what's available out there?
>>
>> I think you'll find the best stuff is the extruded aluminium, which you 
>> can get pre-finished (powder coated) - 'Stormguard' is one make.  You can 
>> get it in appropriate profiles to look like cast iron.  There's a cast 
>> aluminium product which looks even more like cast iron (it has the proper 
>> sockets), but I don't know anything about that.
>>
>> This is a completely different product to the rolled 'seamless guttering' 
>> crap which they make in the back of a van (or is it on the back of a 
>> horse?)
>
> The rolled seamless aluminium guttering which was made in the back of a 
> van we have is anything but crap. It's excellent, strong, deep and looks 
> like cast iron from the ground. I had my doubts but now I'm converted.
>
> What's your experience? Or are you making a judgement withour experience?
>
> Mary
>>
>>
>> Will
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> 
Date:Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:39:10 +0100   Author:  

Re: Guttering   
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
alex   wrote:


> I'm refurbishing my garden shed. where can I purchase new guttering


All the sheds sell guttering! <g>
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Date:Wed, 31 Aug 2005 14:22:43 +0100   Author:  

Re: Guttering   
"Set Square"  wrote in message 
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> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
> alex   wrote:
>
>> I'm refurbishing my garden shed. where can I purchase new guttering
>
> All the sheds sell guttering! <g>


They don't all sell 3" guttering or, if they do, they never have all the 
bits in stock. 3" guttering looks best on a shed (IMHO).

Bob Mannix
Date:Wed, 31 Aug 2005 14:38:31 +0100   Author:  

Re: Guttering   
In article <4315a4ef$0$97131$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net>,
r.p.mcmurphy <URL:mailto:redleadertwoSPACE@SPACEntlworld.com> wrote:


> how much did this cost?


How much did WHAT cost?

http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post

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AJL
Date:Wed, 31 Aug 2005 14:56:35 +0100   Author:  

Re: Guttering   
"r.p.mcmurphy"  wrote in message 
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> how much did this cost?
>
> steve
>


I can't find the receipt, I'll have to ask Spouse.

Until later,

Mary
Date:Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:16:48 +0100   Author:  

Re: Guttering   
what do you mean "How much did WHAT cost?"..its obvious what I'm talking 
about and what I'm replying to...but if you need it spelling out to you, I'm 
asking Mary how much did it cost to gutter her house.

steve

"Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics)"  wrote in message 
news:ant311335f7fdVpW@office.ajlelectronics.co.uk...

> In article <4315a4ef$0$97131$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net>,
> r.p.mcmurphy <URL:mailto:redleadertwoSPACE@SPACEntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> how much did this cost?
>
> How much did WHAT cost?
>
> http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post
>
> -- 
> AJL
> 
Date:Wed, 31 Aug 2005 17:25:28 +0100   Author:  

Re: Guttering   
r.p.mcmurphy wrote:

> what do you mean "How much did WHAT cost?"..its obvious what I'm
> talking about and what I'm replying to...but if you need it spelling
> out to you, I'm asking Mary how much did it cost to gutter her house.
>
> steve
>
> "Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics)"  wrote in message
> news:ant311335f7fdVpW@office.ajlelectronics.co.uk...
>> In article <4315a4ef$0$97131$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net>,
>> r.p.mcmurphy <URL:mailto:redleadertwoSPACE@SPACEntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>>> how much did this cost?
>>
>> How much did WHAT cost?
>>
>> http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post
>>
>> --
>> AJL


Yep! but you replied to the wrong posting. :-) I think you got his back up
top posting. :-(
Date:Wed, 31 Aug 2005 16:33:40 GMT   Author:  

Re: Guttering   
Oh dear.  Naughty me;-)

steve

"ben"  wrote in message 
news:EZkRe.99747$G8.15946@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...

> r.p.mcmurphy wrote:
>> what do you mean "How much did WHAT cost?"..its obvious what I'm
>> talking about and what I'm replying to...but if you need it spelling
>> out to you, I'm asking Mary how much did it cost to gutter her house.
>>
>> steve
>>
>> "Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics)"  wrote in message
>> news:ant311335f7fdVpW@office.ajlelectronics.co.uk...
>>> In article <4315a4ef$0$97131$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net>,
>>> r.p.mcmurphy <URL:mailto:redleadertwoSPACE@SPACEntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> how much did this cost?
>>>
>>> How much did WHAT cost?
>>>
>>> http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post
>>>
>>> --
>>> AJL
>
> Yep! but you replied to the wrong posting. :-) I think you got his back up
> top posting. :-(
>
> 
Date:Wed, 31 Aug 2005 18:21:41 +0100   Author:  

Re: Guttering   
r.p.mcmurphy wrote:

> Oh dear.  Naughty me;-)
>
> steve
>


:-)

fixes top posting automatically
http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/
Date:Wed, 31 Aug 2005 17:26:57 GMT   Author:  

Re: Guttering   
"ben"  wrote:


>r.p.mcmurphy wrote:
>> Oh dear.  Naughty me;-)
>>
>> steve
>>
>
>:-)
>
>fixes top posting automatically
>http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/



So does a killfile


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Date:Wed, 31 Aug 2005 22:29:29 +0100   Author:  

Re: Guttering   
In article <4315d9f8$0$97107$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net>,
r.p.mcmurphy <URL:mailto:redleadertwoSPACE@SPACEntlworld.com> wrote:


> what do you mean "How much did WHAT cost?"..its obvious what I'm talking 
> about


No it isn't. You have posted your comment before a ream of untrimmed
irrelevance. Did you actually read the link I provided, or do you just know
best?

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Date:Thu, 1 Sep 2005 08:41:08 +0100   Author:  

Re: Guttering   
In article <4315e725$0$1307$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net>, r.p.mcmurphy
<URL:mailto:redleadertwoSPACE@SPACEntlworld.com> wrote:


> Oh dear.  Naughty me;-)


You obviously don't want to communicate. 

*plonk*

-- 
AJL
Date:Thu, 1 Sep 2005 08:41:54 +0100   Author:  

Re: Guttering   
Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics) wrote:

> In article <4315d9f8$0$97107$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net>,
> r.p.mcmurphy <URL:mailto:redleadertwoSPACE@SPACEntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> what do you mean "How much did WHAT cost?"..its obvious what I'm
>> talking about
>
> No it isn't. You have posted your comment before a ream of untrimmed
> irrelevance. Did you actually read the link I provided, or do you
> just know best?


i just know best.
Date:Thu, 1 Sep 2005 12:24:51 +0100   Author:  

Re: Guttering   
Mary Fisher wrote:

> "r.p.mcmurphy"  wrote in message
> news:4315a4ef$0$97131$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net...
>> how much did this cost?
>>
>> steve
>>
>
> I can't find the receipt, I'll have to ask Spouse.
>
> Until later,
>
> Mary


Thanks Mary.  It will be usefull.  How big is your house, for cost 
comparisons sake.  i have a large cottage.

Thanks

steve
Date:Thu, 1 Sep 2005 12:26:53 +0100   Author:  

Re: Guttering   
"r.p.mcmurphy"  wrote in message 
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> Mary Fisher wrote:
>> "r.p.mcmurphy"  wrote in message
>> news:4315a4ef$0$97131$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net...
>>> how much did this cost?
>>>
>>> steve
>>>
>>
>> I can't find the receipt, I'll have to ask Spouse.
>>
>> Until later,
>>
>> Mary
>
> Thanks Mary.  It will be usefull.  How big is your house, for cost 
> comparisons sake.  i have a large cottage.
>
> Thanks
>
> steve


Spouse says it ws 400, all fitting included.

Ours is a 'larger' semi detached house, about 8 metres wide,  9 metres 
deep.We also have a small guttered porch which was also guttered.

The guttering is great, no leaks, no overflow even in the heaviest rain 
(such as we had yesterday - 2" in 30 minutes, I measured) and it means we 
can save a lot more water in butts for the garden, thus saving on our 
metered water bills. And no maintenance.

The workmen were efficient and co-operative.

And I don't give a toss about what anyone else says about it. Our experience 
is all that matters to us.

Mary

>
> 
Date:Thu, 1 Sep 2005 20:31:09 +0100   Author:  

Re: Guttering   
Mary Fisher wrote:

> "r.p.mcmurphy"  wrote in message
> news:4316e57d$0$22945$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net...
>> Mary Fisher wrote:
>>> "r.p.mcmurphy"  wrote in
>>> message news:4315a4ef$0$97131$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net...
>>>> how much did this cost?
>>>>
>>>> steve
>>>>
>>>
>>> I can't find the receipt, I'll have to ask Spouse.
>>>
>>> Until later,
>>>
>>> Mary
>>
>> Thanks Mary.  It will be usefull.  How big is your house, for cost
>> comparisons sake.  i have a large cottage.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> steve
>
> Spouse says it ws 400, all fitting included.
>
> Ours is a 'larger' semi detached house, about 8 metres wide,  9 metres
> deep.We also have a small guttered porch which was also guttered.
>
> The guttering is great, no leaks, no overflow even in the heaviest
> rain (such as we had yesterday - 2" in 30 minutes, I measured) and it
> means we can save a lot more water in butts for the garden, thus
> saving on our metered water bills. And no maintenance.
>
> The workmen were efficient and co-operative.
>
> And I don't give a toss about what anyone else says about it. Our
> experience is all that matters to us.
>
> Mary


How did you find the company who did the work?  are they a national outfit 
or local?

steve
Date:Thu, 1 Sep 2005 23:10:05 +0100   Author:  

Re: Guttering   
"r.p.mcmurphy"  wrote in message 
news:43177c40$0$17463$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-r

>
> How did you find the company who did the work?  are they a national outfit 
> or local?


They were local (Leeds, Yorkshire).

I hate to say it but a large card was put through the door. I discarded it - 
but remembered it because it was well printed and in perfect English.

A few days later we asked a neighbour who had done his guttering, he said 
that company, he said how pleased he'd been with their efficiency and the 
result. Later we asked someone else, got the same company and the same 
response. So Spouse telephoned to ask for a quote.

The chap came round, measured up, went away and sent an exemplary printed 
quote. He couldn't do the job for a couple of weeks because he was going 
way. He did it when he came back - and while in conversation it turned out 
that he was in the same form as one of our daughters at school

That's irrelevant, just made the whole thing more memorable.

While we're also very pleased with the cavity wall insulation I can't 
remember any such details about that company!

Mary



>
> steve
> 
Date:Fri, 2 Sep 2005 09:46:20 +0100   Author:  

Re: Guttering   
Mary Fisher wrote:

> "r.p.mcmurphy"  wrote in message
> news:43177c40$0$17463$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-r
>>
>> How did you find the company who did the work?  are they a national
>> outfit or local?
>
> They were local (Leeds, Yorkshire).
>
> I hate to say it but a large card was put through the door. I
> discarded it - but remembered it because it was well printed and in
> perfect English.
> A few days later we asked a neighbour who had done his guttering, he
> said that company, he said how pleased he'd been with their
> efficiency and the result. Later we asked someone else, got the same
> company and the same response. So Spouse telephoned to ask for a
> quote.
> The chap came round, measured up, went away and sent an exemplary
> printed quote. He couldn't do the job for a couple of weeks because
> he was going way. He did it when he came back - and while in
> conversation it turned out that he was in the same form as one of our
> daughters at school
> That's irrelevant, just made the whole thing more memorable.
>
> While we're also very pleased with the cavity wall insulation I can't
> remember any such details about that company!
>
> Mary
>
>
>>
>> steve


many thanks for your help!  Dont s'pose you have any pictures of it you coud 
send me?  dont put yourself out though.

Cheers!

steve
Date:Fri, 2 Sep 2005 11:43:07 +0100   Author:  

Re: Guttering   
"r.p.mcmurphy"  wrote in message 
news:43182cbb$0$22914$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-

>
> many thanks for your help!  Dont s'pose you have any pictures of it you 
> coud send me?  dont put yourself out though.


I could take some but you wouldn't be any wiser, it just looks like, well, 
guttering.

Neverthelss, I'll take the old shoebox outside now.

see you lter.

Mary

>
> Cheers!
>
> steve
> 
Date:Fri, 2 Sep 2005 14:56:45 +0100   Author: