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are  1/2" to 15m/m and 3/4" to 22m/m copper pipe adapters available, I have 
tried B&Q warehouse and Wickes without any luck.
Gordon
Date:Tue, 30 Aug 2005 22:22:05 +0100   Author:  

Re: imperial/metric   
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Gordon   wrote:


> are  1/2" to 15m/m and 3/4" to 22m/m copper pipe adapters available,
> I have tried B&Q warehouse and Wickes without any luck.
> Gordon


1/2" and 15mm pipes are so similar that you can use 15mm compression or
solder fittings on 1/2" pipe without any problems.

22mm pipe is *slightly* bigger than 3/4". You can use 22mm compression
fittings on 3/4" pipe with special olives - with a slightly smaller ID. You
can get these at a decent PM but maybe not at the sheds.

If you want to use solder fittings to join 22mm and 3/4" pipe, you need
special fittings whose two ends are a slightly different size. Again, you
can get them from a PM - or probably on-line from the likes of BES.
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Date:Tue, 30 Aug 2005 22:36:28 +0100   Author:  

Re: imperial/metric   
Set Square wrote:


> If you want to use solder fittings to join 22mm and 3/4" pipe, you need
> special fittings whose two ends are a slightly different size. Again, you
> can get them from a PM - or probably on-line from the likes of BES.


Or if needs must, run a pipe cutter round a 22mm fitting once or 
twice... not enough to cut into it, but enough to put a dent into the 
circumferance and reduce the diameter enough to solder it! (DAMHIK)

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Date:Wed, 31 Aug 2005 00:10:53 +0100   Author:  

Re: imperial/metric   
In article , Set Square
<URL:mailto:diy@privacy.net> wrote:


> 1/2" and 15mm pipes are so similar that you can use 15mm compression or
> solder fittings on 1/2" pipe without any problems.


Compression yes, but I have experienced the odd failure when using 13mm
fittings on 12.7mm (1/2") pipe.


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AJL
Date:Wed, 31 Aug 2005 08:41:31 +0100   Author:  

Re: imperial/metric   
"Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics)"  wrote in message 
news:ant3107310b0dVpW@office.ajlelectronics.co.uk...

> In article , Set Square
> <URL:mailto:diy@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> 1/2" and 15mm pipes are so similar that you can use 15mm compression or
>> solder fittings on 1/2" pipe without any problems.
>
> Compression yes, but I have experienced the odd failure when using 13mm
> fittings on 12.7mm (1/2") pipe.


Indeed - if SSq had left off "without any problems" then OK. I have found it 
necessary on many occasions to abrade (with steel wool) 1/2" pipe down quite 
a lot to get 15mm solder fittings on. They will go eventually though. If 
they are too tight a fit then the solder won't flow properly and the joint 
will be suspect for ever more so it's worth working them to an easy fit.

Bob Mannix
Date:Wed, 31 Aug 2005 09:24:36 +0100   Author:  

Re: imperial/metric   
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics)   wrote:


> In article , Set Square
> <URL:mailto:diy@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> 1/2" and 15mm pipes are so similar that you can use 15mm compression
>> or solder fittings on 1/2" pipe without any problems.
>
> Compression yes, but I have experienced the odd failure when using
> 13mm fittings on 12.7mm (1/2") pipe.


I'm not sure which pipes you are talking about. Half inch pipe isn't 12.7mm.
The 'half-inch' refers to the nominal bore, so that the OD is larger than
this - and very close to that of 15mm (not 13mm) pipe.
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Set Square
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Date:Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:10:17 +0100   Author:  

Re: imperial/metric   
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 08:41:31 +0100, "Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics)"
 wrote:

| In article , Set Square
| <URL:mailto:diy@privacy.net> wrote:
| 
| > 1/2" and 15mm pipes are so similar that you can use 15mm compression or
| > solder fittings on 1/2" pipe without any problems.
| 
| Compression yes, but I have experienced the odd failure when using 13mm
| fittings on 12.7mm (1/2") pipe.

Yorkshire and other soldered fittings *no*. 
There used it be special soldered fittings but I doubt they sell them any
more.
Always use compression fittings to join imperial to metric.

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Date:Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:19:37 +0100   Author:  

Re: imperial/metric   
"Dave Fawthrop"  wrote in message 
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> On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 08:41:31 +0100, "Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics)"
>  wrote:
>
> | In article , Set Square
> | <URL:mailto:diy@privacy.net> wrote:
> |
> | > 1/2" and 15mm pipes are so similar that you can use 15mm compression 
> or
> | > solder fittings on 1/2" pipe without any problems.
> |
> | Compression yes, but I have experienced the odd failure when using 13mm
> | fittings on 12.7mm (1/2") pipe.
>
> Yorkshire and other soldered fittings *no*.


Too harsh, they (15mm fitting onto 1/2" pipe that is) will go with a bit of 
effort and quite successfully. Most of my radiators are fitted like this 
(1/2" installarion converted to 15mm then onto rad).


> There used it be special soldered fittings but I doubt they sell them any
> more.


Yes I bought some not long ago, you can still get them I believe. The 22mm 
to 3/4" ones are easier to find (as you can't do without) but you can still 
get the small ones, I believe.


> Always use compression fittings to join imperial to metric.


Easier but not better (but that's not an imperial metric thing!)

Bob Mannix
Date:Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:36:18 +0100   Author:  

Re: imperial/metric   
In article ,
   Dave Fawthrop  wrote:

> Yorkshire and other soldered fittings *no*. 
> There used it be special soldered fittings but I doubt they sell them any
> more.
> Always use compression fittings to join imperial to metric.


Last time I tried, I found end feed 1/2 - 15mm and 3/4 - 22mm adaptors at
my local PM.

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Date:Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:36:58 +0100   Author:  

Re: imperial/metric   
In article , Set Square
<URL:mailto:diy@privacy.net> wrote:


> 
> I'm not sure which pipes you are talking about. Half inch pipe isn't 12.7mm.
> The 'half-inch' refers to the nominal bore, so that the OD is larger than
> this - and very close to that of 15mm (not 13mm) pipe.


Yes sorry, I'm in pratt mode.

I have had failures when using 15mm couplings on older 1/2" pipe. I now only
use new pipe for everything and have had no failures at all.

SWMBO bought a mixer tap from Ebay. Nice bit of kit. Then you notice French
markings for Froid et Chaud. Ne problem, mais. . . 

Apparently the French go in for 12mm couplings and flexible hoses the size
of a pencil. I managed to get some adapters from Plumb Centre and it is all
OK apart from the hot flow, which is slower than I would like.

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AJL
Date:Wed, 31 Aug 2005 11:28:49 +0100   Author:  

Re: imperial/metric   
"Gordon"  wrote in message 
news:w_KdnZ2dnZ0gLer7nZ2dnZxTid6dnZ2dRVnypp2dnZ0@pipex.net...

> are  1/2" to 15m/m and 3/4" to 22m/m copper pipe adapters available, I 
> have tried B&Q warehouse and Wickes without any luck.
> Gordon

www.bes.co.uk sell end feed 15mm to 1/2" for 21p or solder ring for 1.50 
odd. Also 3/4" to 22mm as well. Last one I got from Jayhard (when they 
existed) a couple of years ago and when I found I was one short on a Sunday, 
from Homebase of all places for a rip of cost.
Date:Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:54:32 +0100   Author: