Anyone know where I can buy 7 core trailer cable that has a wound-in 
curl?  I want a couple of metres of it for my Forth-Rail-Bridge trailer 
project and balk at paying 20 for an extension cable.

BTW Maplin is not the answer!

TIA

Richard


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rjs  wrote:


>Anyone know where I can buy 7 core trailer cable that has a wound-in 
>curl?  I want a couple of metres of it for my Forth-Rail-Bridge trailer 
>project and balk at paying 20 for an extension cable.
>
>BTW Maplin is not the answer!


I think the size of your towbar and the power of the towing vehicle
are going to be more of problem if you intend towing the Forth Rail
Bridge ;-)

How about some compressed air curly flex with singles threaded down
the middle?




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On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 19:59:15 +0100, rjs  wrote:


>Anyone know where I can buy 7 core trailer cable that has a wound-in 
>curl?  I want a couple of metres of it for my Forth-Rail-Bridge trailer 
>project and balk at paying 20 for an extension cable.
>
>BTW Maplin is not the answer!
>
>TIA
>
>Richard


Yes.   I am pretty sure that you could get these from Autac
(www.autac.com)    

I had some cables specially made for a table saw control application. 
THey are signal cables with 8 x 7/0.2mm, 2 metres long, so not wildly
different, although I presume that you would need heavier gauge than
this for a trailer.

Cost was 12 each.







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"rjs"  wrote in message 
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> Anyone know where I can buy 7 core trailer cable that has a wound-in curl? 
> I want a couple of metres of it for my Forth-Rail-Bridge trailer project 
> and balk at paying 20 for an extension cable.
>
> BTW Maplin is not the answer!
>
> TIA


go to a commercial vehicle factors, mind you I might have a spare bit in my 
garage, I'll have a look tomorrow, what length do you need it to extend to ?

mrcheerful

mrcheerful . wrote:


>
> 
> 
> go to a commercial vehicle factors, mind you I might have a spare bit in my 
> garage, I'll have a look tomorrow, what length do you need it to extend to ?
> 
> mrcheerful 
> 
> 


Hi Mrcheeful.  Thanks for that.

3 metres tops.  I want to fit a box that distributes power to the 
various side/front/tail lights on the trailer to the front of the box 
body.  Then run the curly stuff from that to the towing vehicle.   The 
idea being that the curly stuff will allow for cornering without the 
risk of slack dragging on the ground.  Does that sound valid.

Ta

Richard



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Andy Hall wrote:



> 
> Yes.   I am pretty sure that you could get these from Autac
> (www.autac.com)    
> 
> I had some cables specially made for a table saw control application. 
> THey are signal cables with 8 x 7/0.2mm, 2 metres long, so not wildly
> different, although I presume that you would need heavier gauge than
> this for a trailer.
> 
> Cost was 12 each.
> 


Sounds very reasonable.  Oddly enough I had looked at Autac before 
posting to the NG.  The site looked very professional, non-retail and 
expensive, hence my posting.  Although I have sent them an email.

Rgds

Richard

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"rjs"  wrote in message 
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> mrcheerful . wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> go to a commercial vehicle factors, mind you I might have a spare bit in 
>> my garage, I'll have a look tomorrow, what length do you need it to 
>> extend to ?
>>
>> mrcheerful
>
> Hi Mrcheeful.  Thanks for that.
>
> 3 metres tops.  I want to fit a box that distributes power to the various 
> side/front/tail lights on the trailer to the front of the box body.  Then 
> run the curly stuff from that to the towing vehicle.   The idea being that 
> the curly stuff will allow for cornering without the risk of slack 
> dragging on the ground.  Does that sound valid.
>
> Ta
>
> Richard


sounds perfectly sensible, IIRC the bit I have got has a commercial type 
plug on one end and the other is just wires, if you hard wire it to the 
trailer and fit a standard plug on the end it should be fine, I know where 
it will be in the garage, but I can't conveniently go and check till 
tomorrow afternoon .  Assuming I can find it you can have it for nothing, 
but I'll dig it out and check the length and post the details here tomorrow.

mrcheerful

In message , rjs  
writes

>Anyone know where I can buy 7 core trailer cable that has a wound-in 
>curl?  I want a couple of metres of it for my Forth-Rail-Bridge trailer 
>project
>


Forget the cable

Where are you going to get wheels for such a bugger ?

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On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 21:24:28 GMT, raden  wrote:


>>I want a couple of metres of it for my Forth-Rail-Bridge trailer 
>>project

>Where are you going to get wheels for such a bugger ?


Any Vauxhall Nova round my way.  The little hoodies fit wheels to them
the size of traction engines.

On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 21:40:51 +0100, rjs  wrote:

The 

>idea being that the curly stuff will allow for cornering without the 
>risk of slack dragging on the ground.  Does that sound valid.


IMHO, you will only be able to have a very short length of 'curly'
unsupported and / or very little tension on it to stop it pulling out
the plug?

I used some on the recent rebuild of a little German box trailer (as
you did to feed a waterproof 'junction box') but it ends up getting
used like non curly (and being heavier can actually hang down easier
than non curly)?

Offering a common d-i-y reply, in all of my 32 years towing I can't
remember ever catching the lighting cable on the ground / objects (but
then don't tend to tow 'off road' much .. except the B.O.B 'Yak'
behind the tandem maybe) ;-)

All the best with your project ...

T i m

On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 06:16:55 GMT, T i m  wrote:


| Offering a common d-i-y reply, in all of my 32 years towing I can't
| remember ever catching the lighting cable on the ground / objects (but
| then don't tend to tow 'off road' much .. except the B.O.B 'Yak'
| behind the tandem maybe) ;-)

I have severed my caravan road lighting cable, once in <mumble years of
towing> by dragging it along the ground.    Repairing it in a service area
with PVC tape was a right pain.
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Dave Fawthrop wrote:

> On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 06:16:55 GMT, T i m  wrote:
>
> I have severed my caravan road lighting cable, once in <mumble years of
> towing> by dragging it along the ground.    Repairing it in a service area
> with PVC tape was a right pain.
> --


To come back to the OP's question, curly cable or at least ready made
ext leads made with curly cable should be available from CPC or Towsure
for less than an arm and a leg.

However, as others have noted, it really isn't necessary, as long as
only a little slack is left on the cable (and only a little should be
needed if the cable is cable tied to the A Frame / Drawbar to just
short of the tow hitch).

On 31 Aug 2005 03:18:24 -0700, zikkimalambo@connectfree.co.uk wrote:


>To come back to the OP's question, curly cable or at least ready made
>ext leads made with curly cable should be available from CPC or Towsure
>for less than an arm and a leg.


As mentioned about 12 quid but are only 1.5m long and I believe the OP
was looking for something around 3m (tops)(with his current design in
mind anyway) ;-)

When I rewired my trailer I brought std 7 core cable from each of the
light units, up the A frame of the chassis to a point up near the draw
bar coupling where they were united in a waterproof box with the coily
bit. This meant there were unused conductors in each cable but also
all signals were present at both points (backup wires maybe)?

>
>However, as others have noted, it really isn't necessary, as long as
>only a little slack is left on the cable (and only a little should be
>needed if the cable is cable tied to the A Frame / Drawbar to just
>short of the tow hitch).


On from that, I have even see the 'loop' held up by a light elastic
band to the jockey wheel handle so that there is slack when needed,
won't pull the plug out and is held clear of any bits that might trap
the cable (like overrun brake mechs)?

A small loop that would cope on full lock with the socket on the
'wrong' side and a bit for luck seems to work though. I use those
large black re-usable cable ties so I can quickly adjust the slack if
the trailer is towed by a different vehicle.

All the best ..

T i m

rjs wrote:

> Anyone know where I can buy 7 core trailer cable that has a wound-in
> curl?  I want a couple of metres of it for my Forth-Rail-Bridge trailer
> project and balk at paying £20 for an extension cable.
>
> BTW Maplin is not the answer!
>
> TIA
>
> Richard
>
>
> --
> Real email address is RJSavage at BIGFOOT dot COM


Have you tried a commercial vehicle breakers yard ? threre should be
several in the yellow pages.

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rjs wrote:

> Anyone know where I can buy 7 core trailer cable that has a wound-in
> curl?  I want a couple of metres of it for my Forth-Rail-Bridge trailer
> project and balk at paying 20 for an extension cable.
>
> BTW Maplin is not the answer!
>
> TIA
>
> Richard
>
>
> --
> Real email address is RJSavage at BIGFOOT dot COM


Have you tried a commercial vehicle breakers yard ? threre should be
several in the yellow pages.


Now that's a very clever idea. I need to install trailer fittings
and I'll certainly follow that up.

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"rjs"  wrote in message 
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> Anyone know where I can buy 7 core trailer cable that has a wound-in curl? 
> I want a couple of metres of it for my Forth-Rail-Bridge trailer project 
> and balk at paying 20 for an extension cable.
>
> BTW Maplin is not the answer!
>
> TIA
>
> Richard


despite a good hunt that bit of curly lead has eluded me, sorry.

mrcheerful (despite having too much junk)

mrcheerful . wrote:

> "rjs"  wrote in message 
> news:i6ydnf9qB6EfMYneRVnyiw@pipex.net...
> 
>>Anyone know where I can buy 7 core trailer cable that has a wound-in curl? 
>>I want a couple of metres of it for my Forth-Rail-Bridge trailer project 
>>and balk at paying 20 for an extension cable.
>>
>>BTW Maplin is not the answer!
>>
>>TIA
>>
>>Richard
> 
> 
> despite a good hunt that bit of curly lead has eluded me, sorry.
> 
> mrcheerful (despite having too much junk) 
> 
> 



Thanks to all who replied, and especially to those who looked!

Autac, bless them, have offered to send me a sample.

Rgds Richard

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On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 20:11:23 +0100, rjs  wrote:


>mrcheerful . wrote:
>> "rjs"  wrote in message 
>> news:i6ydnf9qB6EfMYneRVnyiw@pipex.net...
>> 
>>>Anyone know where I can buy 7 core trailer cable that has a wound-in curl? 
>>>I want a couple of metres of it for my Forth-Rail-Bridge trailer project 
>>>and balk at paying 20 for an extension cable.
>>>
>>>BTW Maplin is not the answer!
>>>
>>>TIA
>>>
>>>Richard
>> 
>> 
>> despite a good hunt that bit of curly lead has eluded me, sorry.
>> 
>> mrcheerful (despite having too much junk) 
>> 
>> 
>
>
>Thanks to all who replied, and especially to those who looked!
>
>Autac, bless them, have offered to send me a sample.
>
>Rgds Richard



That's a good result, Richard.

I found them good to deal with and pricing for my special custom
requirement pretty fair and delivery fast.




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On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 23:24:23 +0100, Andy Hall <andyh@hall.nospam>
wrote:



>>
>>Autac, bless them, have offered to send me a sample.
>>
>>Rgds Richard
>
>
>That's a good result, Richard.
>
>I found them good to deal with and pricing for my special custom
>requirement pretty fair and delivery fast.


Just wondered, are these curly cables sold in set lengths so that you
get a straight bit of cable at the ends or can you buy it 'off the
roll' and in that case do you just fight the curley bit into the 7pin
plug etc?

All the best ..

T i m

On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 07:42:40 GMT, T i m  wrote:


>On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 23:24:23 +0100, Andy Hall <andyh@hall.nospam>
>wrote:
>
>
>>>
>>>Autac, bless them, have offered to send me a sample.
>>>
>>>Rgds Richard
>>
>>
>>That's a good result, Richard.
>>
>>I found them good to deal with and pricing for my special custom
>>requirement pretty fair and delivery fast.
>
>Just wondered, are these curly cables sold in set lengths so that you
>get a straight bit of cable at the ends or can you buy it 'off the
>roll' and in that case do you just fight the curley bit into the 7pin
>plug etc?
>
>All the best ..
>
>T i m




The ones I got from Autac have straight ends and I could specify how
much straight end I wanted.

One *could* make off a curly end into a connector, but the result
would look rather tacky.

You need a straight end.



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On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 09:41:56 +0100, Andy Hall <andyh@hall.nospam>
wrote:



>>Just wondered, are these curly cables sold in set lengths so that you
>>get a straight bit of cable at the ends or can you buy it 'off the
>>roll' and in that case do you just fight the curley bit into the 7pin
>>plug etc?

>
>The ones I got from Autac have straight ends and I could specify how
>much straight end I wanted.

Nice ..
>
>One *could* make off a curly end into a connector, but the result
>would look rather tacky.


That's what I though .. 

>
>You need a straight end.


At all times ;-)

All the best ..

T i m

Andy Hall wrote:



> 
> The ones I got from Autac have straight ends and I could specify how
> much straight end I wanted.
> 
> One *could* make off a curly end into a connector, but the result
> would look rather tacky.
> 
> You need a straight end.
> 
> 
> 


You're quite right about the pukka Autac cables having straight ends. 
I expect that my 'sample' will be curly in its entire length.  Not 
something I'm going to complain about tho'

Rgds

Richard

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rjs  wrote:

> Anyone know where I can buy 7 core trailer cable that has a wound-in 
> curl?  I want a couple of metres of it for my Forth-Rail-Bridge trailer 
> project and balk at paying ?20 for an extension cable.
> 
> BTW Maplin is not the answer!


Some sorts of cable can be coiled easilu by wrapping them around a former,
and placing in boiling water, or an oven.
If boiling water doesn't work, try putting in the oven for an hour, at 
10C higher temps each time, and leaving 3 hours to cool.

Ian Stirling wrote:

> rjs  wrote:
> 
>>Anyone know where I can buy 7 core trailer cable that has a wound-in 
>>curl?  I want a couple of metres of it for my Forth-Rail-Bridge trailer 
>>project and balk at paying ?20 for an extension cable.
>>
>>BTW Maplin is not the answer!
> 
> 
> Some sorts of cable can be coiled easilu by wrapping them around a former,
> and placing in boiling water, or an oven.
> If boiling water doesn't work, try putting in the oven for an hour, at 
> 10C higher temps each time, and leaving 3 hours to cool.



Good idea.

Ta

Richard

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