im after a list of number plate registration marks to print off , ive been
on the DVLA site but it only goes from 2001 - 2049 I need something that
shows previous years,  i.e. A reg Jan 63 to Dec 63 right up to the present
day and a few years beyond if poss, anyone know of any other sites that list
it ?

tia

"reg"  wrote in message
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> im after a list of number plate registration marks to print off , ive been
> on the DVLA site but it only goes from 2001 - 2049 I need something that
> shows previous years,  i.e. A reg Jan 63 to Dec 63 right up to the present
> day and a few years beyond if poss, anyone know of any other sites that
list
> it ?


Try this one:

http://www.autocycle.freeserve.co.uk/markindx.html

David.

"David Linley"  wrote in message
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>
> "reg"  wrote in message
> news:df29uf$os$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > im after a list of number plate registration marks to print off , ive
been
> > on the DVLA site but it only goes from 2001 - 2049 I need something that
> > shows previous years,  i.e. A reg Jan 63 to Dec 63 right up to the
present
> > day and a few years beyond if poss, anyone know of any other sites that
> list
> > it ?
>
> Try this one:
>
> http://www.autocycle.freeserve.co.uk/markindx.html
>
> David.
>

David, many thanks, just what im after.

>Try this one:
>
>http://www.autocycle.freeserve.co.uk/markindx.html


Very interesting site. Thanks.

As you may be an expert of this, what is the origin of ABC1234 type
numbers which I often see on coaches, and often in a series with the
letters meaning something. Are they available for to order from the
DVLA ?

On a different subject, I'm amazed the number of people messing with
the spacing on their plates and some even putting silly little dashes
on the bottom of "1"s, etc to try to make a word or personalized
plate.
I thought this would be both illegal and a cause for MOT failure, but
I see it more and more. Also strange fonts - eg italic and small.
Personally, I like to be much more incognito! Why draw attention.

Cheers

default (default@default.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were 
saying :


> As you may be an expert of this, what is the origin of ABC1234 type
> numbers which I often see on coaches, and often in a series with the
> letters meaning something. Are they available for to order from the
> DVLA ?


IIRC all ABC1234 plates will include an I,J,Z somewhere in them - they're 
from Nor'n Iron.

Usual story - buy 'em from one of the number companies - buy one of the 
weekend broadsheet papers with a motoring supplement, and there's 
*hundreds* advertising. Going rate for an ABC1234 is usually a couple of 
hundred quid unless the numbers or letters are something "meaningful" 
<spit>


> On a different subject, I'm amazed the number of people messing with
> the spacing on their plates and some even putting silly little dashes
> on the bottom of "1"s, etc to try to make a word or personalized
> plate.


Which cave have you been living in for the last decade or two? This is 
hardly new.


> I thought this would be both illegal 

It is.

> and a cause for MOT failure


It is.
http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_630.htm

On 31 Aug 2005 07:29:18 GMT, Adrian  wrote:


>default (default@default.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were 
>saying :
>
>> As you may be an expert of this, what is the origin of ABC1234 type
>> numbers which I often see on coaches, and often in a series with the
>> letters meaning something. Are they available for to order from the
>> DVLA ?
>
>IIRC all ABC1234 plates will include an I,J,Z somewhere in them - they're 
>from Nor'n Iron.


OK. I'll look a bit closer next time I see one, but I didn't realise
that they all had I or J or Z in there; thus making them originally
Northern Ireland.


>Usual story - buy 'em from one of the number companies - buy one of the 

>> On a different subject, I'm amazed the number of people messing with
>> the spacing on their plates and some even putting silly little dashes
>> on the bottom of "1"s, etc to try to make a word or personalized
>> plate.
>
>Which cave have you been living in for the last decade or two? This is 
>hardly new.

I was cryogenically frozen in 1964 and recently resucitated.


>> I thought this would be both illegal 
>It is.
>
>> and a cause for MOT failure
>It is.
>http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_630.htm

So how do people get away with this?
Change back to the original plate just for the test ???
Some of these plates are so obscure, it's getting hard to tell what it
is supposed to be.
I thought cops would write up tickets for it, leading to a fine and
license points.

default (default@default.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying : 


>>> I thought this would be both illegal 

>>It is.

>>> and a cause for MOT failure

>>It is.
>>http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_630.htm

> So how do people get away with this?
> Change back to the original plate just for the test ???


That or the tester just ignores it. I've had a few cars with French-style 
plates on them - English number, just a plate made in France. Different, 
slimmer typeface. Strictly speaking, illegal. I've had a couple of plods 
have a "quiet chat" over the years about them, but no real hassle, 
including MOT. Personally, I don't see the real problem, as they're 
perfectly legible, so I'm not stressed. If ever an MOT man complains, then 
- fine - I'll lob some UK-style ones on for the test.


> Some of these plates are so obscure, it's getting hard to tell what it
> is supposed to be.

> I thought cops would write up tickets for it, leading to a fine and
> license points.


You really *have* been living in a cave, haven't you?

In message , default 
 writes

>So how do people get away with this?
>Change back to the original plate just for the test ???
>Some of these plates are so obscure, it's getting hard to tell what it
>is supposed to be.
>I thought cops would write up tickets for it, leading to a fine and
>license points.
>

Generally speaking, I think what's left of the traffic police patrols 
have better things to do than pull people over purely for having a 
mis-spaced number plate.  On the other hand, it's something they might 
well stop you for if they don't like the look of you but can't think of 
a better reason.

I'd like to think that most would have the decency to just tell you to 
get it sorted "and if I see you with these plates on this car again..." 
Others might give you a ticket, forcing you to get them replaced and 
then pay to obtain proof that you'd done it from an MOT testing station. 
Worst case (if you have a 'personalised' plate) is that they can get the 
DVLA to take the registration off you and issue your car with another 
one of their choice.  I'd imagine that's a last resort for persistent 
offenders.

The mis-spaced plates are on the decline since the legislation came out 
to say that only approved outlets could produce number plates (and then 
only on proof of the appropriate documents by the owner.)  New plates 
should have the supplier's name and postcode on them, meaning that if 
you're stopped for having a badly spaced number plate, it's not just you 
that's in trouble.  Certainly, if you see a car with new style XX99XXX 
registration plates in anything other than the standard font, you can be 
pretty sure that the owner has gone out of his or her way to get them 
(probably via mail order) and is fully aware that they're not legal for 
road use.  For earlier registrations, they could claim that they bought 
them over the counter and weren't aware that they were illegal.

Of course if you're not the first owner of the car, there's always the 
good old "they were on there when I bought it... honest!" line.
-- 
David Thornber

On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 09:19:37 +0100, David Thornber
 wrote:


>In message , default 
> writes
>>So how do people get away with this?
>>Change back to the original plate just for the test ???
>>Some of these plates are so obscure, it's getting hard to tell what it
>>is supposed to be.
>>I thought cops would write up tickets for it, leading to a fine and
>>license points.
>>
>Generally speaking, I think what's left of the traffic police patrols 
>have better things to do than pull people over purely for having a 
>mis-spaced number plate.  On the other hand, it's something they might 
>well stop you for if they don't like the look of you but can't think of 
>a better reason.
>

ISTR that an MOT tester once told me that they were more likely to spot
the front one than the back one. A visiting PC commented on my wife's
plate, and the fact that it was actually legally spaced!

We did originally have an illegally-spaced plate until the MOT man
pointed it out. I have since used it as a spare when the legal one got
broken, on the basis that an illegaly-spaced plate is better than a
smashed one.

I've never been pulled for any of them.

I suspect, however, that if you get photographed by a speed camera they
would do you for the illegal plate at the same time?
-- 
Regards,  Chris    (Please take out my car to reply by email)     
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Chris Bolus (chris@FARINAb0lus.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like 
they were saying :


> I suspect, however, that if you get photographed by a speed camera they
> would do you for the illegal plate at the same time?


If it's "illegal" enough, you might get off both... Or at least, that's 
probably the logic that some of 'em use...

"Adrian"  wrote in message
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> Chris Bolus (chris@FARINAb0lus.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like
> they were saying :
>
> > I suspect, however, that if you get photographed by a speed camera they
> > would do you for the illegal plate at the same time?
>
> If it's "illegal" enough, you might get off both... Or at least, that's
> probably the logic that some of 'em use...


Indeed. I know someone with the registration J111 xxx.  It is printed as
Ji11 because of where the stud is placed on the plate.

They got a parking ticket and the ticket actually read Ji11.  Needless to
say they heard no more when they never paid it.

Steven.

"Steven Campbell"  wrote in message
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> "Adrian"  wrote in message
> news:Xns96C39DC33A757adrianachapmanfreeis@204.153.244.170...
> > Chris Bolus (chris@FARINAb0lus.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like
> > they were saying :
> >
> > > I suspect, however, that if you get photographed by a speed camera
they
> > > would do you for the illegal plate at the same time?
> >
> > If it's "illegal" enough, you might get off both... Or at least, that's
> > probably the logic that some of 'em use...
>
> Indeed. I know someone with the registration J111 xxx.  It is printed as
> Ji11 because of where the stud is placed on the plate.
>
> They got a parking ticket and the ticket actually read Ji11.  Needless to
> say they heard no more when they never paid it.
>
> Steven.
>
>

as per the testers manual : " any feature on a number plate that has the
effect of changing the appearance or legibility of any of the characters, so
that the true identity of the vehicle is less easily identified."

customer booked his in today, same date every year with the number plate
mounting bolt making the letters appear different, i said you need to change
them before you come in, no problem he says ive  got the spare set in the
boot, he puts them on outside the station & whips them off as soon as he's
paid ! which is duly noted in my advise book, same thing every year !

On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 20:44:01 +0100, "reg" 
wrote:


>
>"David Linley"  wrote in message
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>>
>> "reg"  wrote in message
>> news:df29uf$os$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
>> > im after a list of number plate registration marks to print off , ive
>been
>> > on the DVLA site but it only goes from 2001 - 2049 I need something that
>> > shows previous years,  i.e. A reg Jan 63 to Dec 63 right up to the
>present
>> > day and a few years beyond if poss, anyone know of any other sites that
>> list
>> > it ?
>>
>> Try this one:
>>
>> http://www.autocycle.freeserve.co.uk/markindx.html
>>
>> David.
>>
>David, many thanks, just what im after.


This is a fuller list of place names:

http://www.wolfbane.com/vreg.htm

The list of "banned" letters was released a while back, IIRC it was
quite a substantial list with many combinations that are probably very
obscure and/or outdated.

Gareth