I'm repairing an old VW Beetle and need to paint various panels etc. I
know exactly what colours I'd like, paint codes etc, but is there a
good online supplier of automotive paints? (NOT aerosol cans!)

www.bodyshopwarehouse.co.uk

nice one thanks.

In article ,
   Rob Convery  wrote:


> www.bodyshopwarehouse.co.uk 


Unless I'm missing something, they don't appear to do cellulose. Or are
modern water based paints suitable for DIY now?

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> Unless I'm missing something, they don't appear to do cellulose. Or are
> modern water based paints suitable for DIY now?


Where did the poster state he wanted cellulose?

In article ,
   Rob Convery  wrote:

> > Unless I'm missing something, they don't appear to do cellulose. Or are
> > modern water based paints suitable for DIY now?

> Where did the poster state he wanted cellulose? 


Well, it's likely his old Beetle was painted with this, and it's a
suitable DIY paint.

Of course if you no nothing about DIY spraying that would explain things.

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Matching 2-pac will be available. Always used 2-pac to spray my projects 
although they have been newer cars. Friend used 2-pac who restores Campers / 
Beetles

All comes down to what you class as "DIY Spaying" If I were to do it myself 
I would still want to use a decent gun, compressor and masks i.e. not far 
off what the pros use.

I didn't say I wanted cellulose, but then again I didn't say I didn't!
;-)

As it happens, I'm not trying to colour match the old colour.
Eventually it will all be re-sprayed.
I have a decent compressor, spray gun etc, and a windproof garage. The
cars not worth much, so I'm really doing it as a project to test my
skills.

Any advice on 2-pack or cellulose that anyone has to offer greatly
received.

In message , 
kmillar  writes

>I didn't say I wanted cellulose, but then again I didn't say I didn't!
>;-)
>
>As it happens, I'm not trying to colour match the old colour.
>Eventually it will all be re-sprayed.
>I have a decent compressor, spray gun etc, and a windproof garage. The
>cars not worth much, so I'm really doing it as a project to test my
>skills.
>
>Any advice on 2-pack or cellulose that anyone has to offer greatly
>received.
>

Why the obsession to buy online, are there no paint shops near you ?

Ask where they get it from

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In article ,
   Rob Convery  wrote:

> Matching 2-pac will be available. Always used 2-pac to spray my projects
> although they have been newer cars. Friend used 2-pac who restores
> Campers / Beetles

> All comes down to what you class as "DIY Spaying" If I were to do it
> myself I would still want to use a decent gun, compressor and masks
> i.e. not far off what the pros use.


You need a bit more than a mask for older two pack paint. Which is why I
asked about the water based stuff.

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>>Why the obsession to buy online, are there no paint shops near you ?

Yes there are - but I enjoy ordering online, I don't have to take time
off from work to collect and so on.

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>
> Matching 2-pac will be available. Always used 2-pac to spray my
projects
> although they have been newer cars. Friend used 2-pac who restores
Campers /
> Beetles

<snip>

....and if the OP has access to a proper spray oven with the correct
filtration / respiration equipment etc. he would not be asking were
to buy the frigging paint!...

"kmillar"  wrote in message
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> I didn't say I wanted cellulose, but then again I didn't say I
didn't!
> ;-)
>
> As it happens, I'm not trying to colour match the old colour.
> Eventually it will all be re-sprayed.
> I have a decent compressor, spray gun etc, and a windproof garage.
The
> cars not worth much, so I'm really doing it as a project to test my
> skills.
>
> Any advice on 2-pack or cellulose that anyone has to offer greatly
> received.
>


As for 2k paint, unless you own or have access to the correct
equipment (and if you did you would not be asking for advise here...)
you should forget any thoughts about using 2k paint, 2k paint is
_NOT_ for DIY use.

"Dave Plowman (News)"  wrote in message
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> In article ,
>    Rob Convery  wrote:
> > Matching 2-pac will be available. Always used 2-pac to spray my
projects
> > although they have been newer cars. Friend used 2-pac who
restores
> > Campers / Beetles
>
> > All comes down to what you class as "DIY Spaying" If I were to do
it
> > myself I would still want to use a decent gun, compressor and
masks
> > i.e. not far off what the pros use.
>
> You need a bit more than a mask for older two pack paint. Which is
why I
> asked about the water based stuff.
>


You also need a bit more than an mask and spray booth for water base
paint...

In article <4319bc18$0$29901$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net>,
   :::Jerry::::  wrote:

> > > All comes down to what you class as "DIY Spaying" If I were to do
> it
> > > myself I would still want to use a decent gun, compressor and
> masks
> > > i.e. not far off what the pros use.
> >
> > You need a bit more than a mask for older two pack paint. Which is
> why I
> > asked about the water based stuff.
> >

> You also need a bit more than an mask and spray booth for water base
> paint...


Which means the only practical stuff for DIY is still cellulose?

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"Dave Plowman (News)"  wrote in message
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> In article

<4319bc18$0$29901$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net>,

>    :::Jerry::::  wrote:
<snip>
>
> > You also need a bit more than an mask and spray booth for water
base
> > paint...
>
> Which means the only practical stuff for DIY is still cellulose?
>


Yes, more or less...

In article <431acc88$0$32190$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net>,
   :::Jerry::::  wrote:

> > > You also need a bit more than an mask and spray booth for water base
> > > paint...
> >
> > Which means the only practical stuff for DIY is still cellulose?
> >

> Yes, more or less...


What is it about water based that makes it not suitable for the home? Does
it *have* to be baked? Just had the SD1 painted in this stuff.

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"Dave Plowman (News)"  wrote in message
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> In article

<431acc88$0$32190$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net>,

>    :::Jerry::::  wrote:
> > > > You also need a bit more than an mask and spray booth for
water base
> > > > paint...
> > >
> > > Which means the only practical stuff for DIY is still
cellulose?
> > >
>
> > Yes, more or less...

"Dave Plowman (News)"  wrote in message
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> In article

<431acc88$0$32190$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net>,

>    :::Jerry::::  wrote:
> > > > You also need a bit more than an mask and spray booth for
water base
> > > > paint...
> > >
> > > Which means the only practical stuff for DIY is still
cellulose?
> > >
>
> > Yes, more or less...
>
> What is it about water based that makes it not suitable for the
home? Does
> it *have* to be baked? Just had the SD1 painted in this stuff.
>


There needs to be an air flow (of 'clean' air) around the vehicle
AIUI, also it needs to be warm air at certain periods, then you still
have the lacquer.

The thing about water base is not the removal of the two part mix but
the removal of the solvent, which is what is doing the damage to the
environment [1]. Cellulose is still very much a problem in that
respect, but it doesn't have the greater health risks that 2k paint
does, so is the better of the 3 (or 4) evil's for DIY use - if you
must do your own spraying.

[1] it's been estimated that some large paint shops could 'exhaust' a
*tonne* or more of thinners into the air over a 12 month period, that
is a lot of solvent chucked into the air!

In article <431aea43$0$32183$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net>,
   :::Jerry::::  wrote:

> > What is it about water based that makes it not suitable for the home?
> > Does it *have* to be baked? Just had the SD1 painted in this stuff.
> >

> There needs to be an air flow (of 'clean' air) around the vehicle
> AIUI, also it needs to be warm air at certain periods, then you still
> have the lacquer.


Mine appears to be a solid colour with no lacquer. This is what surprised
me.

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"Dave Plowman (News)"  wrote in message
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> In article

<431aea43$0$32183$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net>,

>    :::Jerry::::  wrote:
> > > What is it about water based that makes it not suitable for the
home?
> > > Does it *have* to be baked? Just had the SD1 painted in this
stuff.
> > >
>
> > There needs to be an air flow (of 'clean' air) around the vehicle
> > AIUI, also it needs to be warm air at certain periods, then you
still
> > have the lacquer.
>
> Mine appears to be a solid colour with no lacquer. This is what
surprised
> me.
>


Any idea what make of paint was used ?

Also, how is the SD1, got it back together yet ?:~)

In article <431b18de$0$32194$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net>,
   :::Jerry::::  wrote:

> > Mine appears to be a solid colour with no lacquer. This is what
> surprised
> > me.
> >

> Any idea what make of paint was used ?


No - but I'll be seeing them later so can ask.


> Also, how is the SD1, got it back together yet ?:~)


Pretty well. Jobs left are to paint the door widow frames. They originally
had some form of chemical black finish which has gone splodgy grey in
places, so I'll just do it with matt black paint. Also to find a better
double sided sticky for the door mouldings - they have a slightly raised
lip round the edges so need a thick type. I've found a thick type, but
it's too thick. ;-). I've also found a near right twin gold coach line on
a roll, but ain't too confident of my abilities to apply it neatly.

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