| |
S70 Tools
Been studying a few repair procedures for the S70. One thing I've noticed
is that there are a number of Torx fixings, so I'll be getting a decent
set of bits. I also noticed that the hub carriers have bolts that require
a torx socket (i.e. Exx). Does anyone know if there are other fixings
that require torx shape sockets or are these a one off. I don't want to
buy a full set if it isn't necessary, as they seem rather more expensive
than the male bits.
After my holidays, or early next year (depending on the financial
damage), I intend to undertake a clutch replacement. Will be my first
major job, but before I get shot down (I can hear you all gasping now),
there are a couple of things I'd like to point out.
1) I have the time. Don't need the car for commuting because I can walk
to work in under 20 minutes. I do this anyway, except when the weather is
exceptionally bad. SWMBO has her little car, so life without mine for a
couple of weeks won't be at all hard.
2) I have access to the facilities. I work in the engineering department
of a large industrial plant. On the site we have a large garage used for
maintenance of forklifts. I intend to put the car in there for a week or
two and do the work in my own time. No post lift, it will be a jack &
support job, but level ground, plenty of space and a roof overhead. I can
borrow all the general purpose tools I need (big sockets etc).
3) Help is at hand. I have a number of colleagues who can help out with
two man operations (removing gearbox etc) and general items that I may
get stuck on. I myself, IMHO, am quite practically minded. I've studied
the procedure and know what I'm getting into, or at least I feel that I
understand it well enough to be able to take the job on. Admittedly, I'd
never even done an oil change until five years ago, and the biggest part
I've changed to date is a wishbone. But there's a first time for
everything, as they say ;-)
As usual, any constructive advice is much appreciated. OK, you can shoot
me down in flames, now ;-)
--
Stuart Sharp
Date:Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:55:05 -0500
Author:
|
Re: S70 Tools
fStu wrote:
> After my holidays, or early next year (depending on the financial
> damage), I intend to undertake a clutch replacement. Will be my first
> major job, but before I get shot down (I can hear you all gasping now),
> there are a couple of things I'd like to point out.
Why?
Is it slipping or showing any other signs of failure?
Best thing to do with a clutch is to keep using the car until the
slipping starts to affect everyday driving, then chuck it at a spanner
monkey for replacement.
FWIW, I've only ever needed the clutch doing on one of my cars.
--
Steve H 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
http://www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - MZ ETZ300 - Alfa 75 TSpark
Alfa 156 2.0 TSpark Lusso - Passat 1.8 Turbo SE - COSOC KOTL
BoTAFOT #87 - BoTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #
Date:Mon, 29 Aug 2005 18:06:05 +0100
Author:
|
Re: S70 Tools
>> After my holidays, or early next year (depending on the financial
>> damage), I intend to undertake a clutch replacement. Will be my first
>> major job, but before I get shot down (I can hear you all gasping now),
>> there are a couple of things I'd like to point out.
>
> Why?
>
> Is it slipping or showing any other signs of failure?
>
> Best thing to do with a clutch is to keep using the car until the
> slipping starts to affect everyday driving, then chuck it at a spanner
> monkey for replacement.
Erm, Steve, I think you need to re-read Stu's post. I think he's quite
looking forward to the challenge :-)
--
Peter
"You're not a real UKRCMer until you've had your big end bearings go."
Date:Mon, 29 Aug 2005 17:17:39 GMT
Author:
|
Re: S70 Tools
AstraVanMan wrote:
> >> After my holidays, or early next year (depending on the financial
> >> damage), I intend to undertake a clutch replacement. Will be my first
> >> major job, but before I get shot down (I can hear you all gasping now),
> >> there are a couple of things I'd like to point out.
> >
> > Why?
> >
> > Is it slipping or showing any other signs of failure?
> >
> > Best thing to do with a clutch is to keep using the car until the
> > slipping starts to affect everyday driving, then chuck it at a spanner
> > monkey for replacement.
>
> Erm, Steve, I think you need to re-read Stu's post. I think he's quite
> looking forward to the challenge :-)
That's up to the point you drop the gearbox out, realise it weighs a
metric fuckload and that you haven't really got the car far enough off
the ground to work safely.
--
Steve H 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
http://www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - MZ ETZ300 - Alfa 75 TSpark
Alfa 156 2.0 TSpark Lusso - Passat 1.8 Turbo SE - COSOC KOTL
BoTAFOT #87 - BoTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #
Date:Mon, 29 Aug 2005 18:19:36 +0100
Author:
|
Re: S70 Tools
> ...realise it weighs a metric fuckload
LOL now there`s a unit of measurement I won`t forget !
--
Please add the word "newsgroup" in the subject line of personal emails
**** My email address includes "ngspamtrap" and "@btinternet.com" ****
Date:Mon, 29 Aug 2005 19:15:46 +0100
Author:
|
Re: S70 Tools
steve@italiancar.co.uk (SteveH) wrote in news:1h22i8f.acbqns1nc2u4gN%
steve@italiancar.co.uk:
> fStu wrote:
>
>> After my holidays, or early next year (depending on the financial
>> damage), I intend to undertake a clutch replacement. Will be my first
>> major job, but before I get shot down (I can hear you all gasping now),
>> there are a couple of things I'd like to point out.
>
> Why?
>
> Is it slipping or showing any other signs of failure?
>
> Best thing to do with a clutch is to keep using the car until the
> slipping starts to affect everyday driving, then chuck it at a spanner
> monkey for replacement.
>
> FWIW, I've only ever needed the clutch doing on one of my cars.
Main problem is the release bearing. It makes an embarassing groaning noise
when pulling away. The action of the clutch could be smoother, too - it's a
bit heavy and isn't very progressive (i.e. it's either in or out, no in-
between), making smooth gearchanges difficult. I reckon a new clutch would
solve all these issues, but there's no immediate rush.
--
Stuart Sharp
Date:Mon, 29 Aug 2005 14:46:15 -0500
Author:
|
Re: S70 Tools
steve@italiancar.co.uk (SteveH) wrote in
news:1h22ivl.1nbu2271t7wxmfN%steve@italiancar.co.uk:
> AstraVanMan wrote:
>
>> >> After my holidays, or early next year (depending on the financial
>> >> damage), I intend to undertake a clutch replacement. Will be my
>> >> first major job, but before I get shot down (I can hear you all
>> >> gasping now), there are a couple of things I'd like to point out.
>> >
>> > Why?
>> >
>> > Is it slipping or showing any other signs of failure?
>> >
>> > Best thing to do with a clutch is to keep using the car until the
>> > slipping starts to affect everyday driving, then chuck it at a
>> > spanner monkey for replacement.
>>
>> Erm, Steve, I think you need to re-read Stu's post. I think he's
>> quite looking forward to the challenge :-)
>
'Tis true, I do like a challenge :-)
> That's up to the point you drop the gearbox out, realise it weighs a
> metric fuckload and that you haven't really got the car far enough off
> the ground to work safely.
I've no intention of trying to lift it by myself! I thought that two lads
would be able to handle it? Please tell me if I'm being vain. I realised
about the height and intend to measure the ground clearance before
starting to unbolt the box. Is it really not possible without a lift?
--
Stuart Sharp
Date:Mon, 29 Aug 2005 14:51:02 -0500
Author:
|
Re: S70 Tools
Stu wrote:
> > That's up to the point you drop the gearbox out, realise it weighs a
> > metric fuckload and that you haven't really got the car far enough off
> > the ground to work safely.
>
> I've no intention of trying to lift it by myself! I thought that two lads
> would be able to handle it? Please tell me if I'm being vain. I realised
> about the height and intend to measure the ground clearance before
> starting to unbolt the box. Is it really not possible without a lift?
It can be done, but I wouldn't. You really want to be able to unbolt
everything, support the 'box on a trolley jack and raise the car in a
lift.
--
Steve H 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
http://www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - MZ ETZ300 - Alfa 75 TSpark
Alfa 156 2.0 TSpark Lusso - Passat 1.8 Turbo SE - COSOC KOTL
BoTAFOT #87 - BoTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #
Date:Mon, 29 Aug 2005 20:52:34 +0100
Author:
|
Re: S70 Tools
> That's up to the point you drop the gearbox out, realise it weighs a
> metric fuckload and that you haven't really got the car far enough off
> the ground to work safely.
Bear in mind also it's a clutch and gearbox in a transverse 5 cyl car
designed to handle 250 lb ft or more of torque... If he does decide to DIY
it can we all watch?
Date:Mon, 29 Aug 2005 21:00:07 +0100
Author:
|
Re: S70 Tools
Stu wrote:
> I've no intention of trying to lift it by myself! I thought that two lads
> would be able to handle it?
They most certainly can, in fact I can't think of a gearbox that I've
been unable to lift on my own in the last 20odd years. However when
you're lying on your back or dangling, feet off the ground, in the
engine bay it's a different story.
Find out which way the gearbox comes out, up or down, before
deciding if you can do it on the drive.
John
Date:Mon, 29 Aug 2005 21:00:31 +0100
Author:
|
Re: S70 Tools
Stu wrote:
> Main problem is the release bearing. It makes an embarassing groaning
> noise when pulling away. The action of the clutch could be smoother,
> too - it's a bit heavy and isn't very progressive (i.e. it's either
> in or out, no in- between), making smooth gearchanges difficult. I
> reckon a new clutch would solve all these issues, but there's no
> immediate rush.
They can be a bit grabby... probably quite normal. You sure the groaning
isn't driveshaft or rollbar linkages?
--
re-configure the solar matrix in parallel for endothermic propulsion
Date:Mon, 29 Aug 2005 21:01:13 +0100
Author:
|
Re: S70 Tools
steve@italiancar.co.uk (SteveH) wrote in
news:1h22pxz.1txxa52c94x21N%steve@italiancar.co.uk:
> Stu wrote:
>
>> > That's up to the point you drop the gearbox out, realise it weighs
>> > a metric fuckload and that you haven't really got the car far
>> > enough off the ground to work safely.
>>
>> I've no intention of trying to lift it by myself! I thought that two
>> lads would be able to handle it? Please tell me if I'm being vain. I
>> realised about the height and intend to measure the ground clearance
>> before starting to unbolt the box. Is it really not possible without
>> a lift?
>
> It can be done, but I wouldn't. You really want to be able to unbolt
> everything, support the 'box on a trolley jack and raise the car in a
> lift.
What's the weight of a typical road car box, then? If it's gonna be too
much, I could always make a bracket to sit it on a trolley jack without
toppling off. Guys have posted on here before claiming to have lifted
gearboxes back on single-handedly. That's why I thought that two people
would manage OK.
--
Stuart Sharp
Date:Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:15:54 -0500
Author:
|
Re: S70 Tools
John Greystrong wrote in
news:3nh7r1F1hv3bU1@individual.net:
> Stu wrote:
>
>> I've no intention of trying to lift it by myself! I thought that two
>> lads would be able to handle it?
>
> They most certainly can, in fact I can't think of a gearbox that I've
> been unable to lift on my own in the last 20odd years. However when
> you're lying on your back or dangling, feet off the ground, in the
> engine bay it's a different story.
>
> Find out which way the gearbox comes out, up or down, before
> deciding if you can do it on the drive.
>
> John
>
This would be from below, but space is rather tight. You can't remove it
without lowering the engine and subframe by a few inches on the gearbox
end! The above bit gives me an idea, though. I could get two of us
underneath with a third person taking some weight from above via a length
of rope passed around the underside of it.
It does all sound a bit dodgy, though. When the time comes, I think I'll
make a bracket that gives a flat base, enabling the gearbox to be
supported by a trolley jack. DIY is all well and good, but I don't want
to risk injury to my friends or myself!
--
Stuart Sharp
Date:Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:23:19 -0500
Author:
|
Re: S70 Tools
"Tim S Kemp" wrote in
news:OOedne7xX-DU9I7eRVn-pQ@karoo.co.uk:
>
>
>> That's up to the point you drop the gearbox out, realise it weighs a
>> metric fuckload and that you haven't really got the car far enough
>> off the ground to work safely.
>
> Bear in mind also it's a clutch and gearbox in a transverse 5 cyl car
> designed to handle 250 lb ft or more of torque... If he does decide to
> DIY it can we all watch?
>
>
>
You can come and give us a lift, if you want ;-)
While I've got your attention, how about my torx sockets query? Is it just
the hub bolts that use a female socket or do I need a set of them?
--
Stuart Sharp
Date:Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:25:54 -0500
Author:
|
Re: S70 Tools
"Stu" wrote in message
news:Xns96C1D4DC6D282nobodyhomecom@216.196.109.144...
> steve@italiancar.co.uk (SteveH) wrote in
> news:1h22ivl.1nbu2271t7wxmfN%steve@italiancar.co.uk:
>
> > AstraVanMan wrote:
> >
> >> >> After my holidays, or early next year (depending on the financial
> >> >> damage), I intend to undertake a clutch replacement. Will be my
> >> >> first major job, but before I get shot down (I can hear you all
> >> >> gasping now), there are a couple of things I'd like to point out.
> >> >
> >> > Why?
> >> >
> >> > Is it slipping or showing any other signs of failure?
> >> >
> >> > Best thing to do with a clutch is to keep using the car until the
> >> > slipping starts to affect everyday driving, then chuck it at a
> >> > spanner monkey for replacement.
> >>
> >> Erm, Steve, I think you need to re-read Stu's post. I think he's
> >> quite looking forward to the challenge :-)
> >
>
> 'Tis true, I do like a challenge :-)
>
> > That's up to the point you drop the gearbox out, realise it weighs a
> > metric fuckload and that you haven't really got the car far enough off
> > the ground to work safely.
>
> I've no intention of trying to lift it by myself! I thought that two lads
> would be able to handle it? Please tell me if I'm being vain. I realised
> about the height and intend to measure the ground clearance before
> starting to unbolt the box. Is it really not possible without a lift?
For an 850 / 70 series clutch you need a 2 post lift and either an engine
steady bar (spans suspension turrets and supports engine from above) or an
engine jack (supports from below)
The front subframe with suspension / hubs / driveshafts / steeringh rack etc
etc etc has to be dropped at least 8 inches to make enough room for the
gearbox to slide away from the engine enough to access the clutch without
fouling on the chassis legs.
It is a basic nut and bolt job, but needs time, patience and the right
supports. There are too many hoses / wires and stuff with minimal slack to
rush.
Book time for a dealer is over 5 hrs, so you can double that at least on
your own for the first time.
I would very strongly recommend removing the flywheel (possibly giving it a
light skim as well) to replace the crank main seal which invariably go to
leak, and replacing the clutch slave cylinder whilst you are at it.
Tim..
Date:Mon, 29 Aug 2005 20:25:49 +0000 (UTC)
Author:
|
Re: S70 Tools
"Stu" wrote in message
news:Xns96C1D40636B55nobodyhomecom@216.196.109.144...
> steve@italiancar.co.uk (SteveH) wrote in news:1h22i8f.acbqns1nc2u4gN%
> steve@italiancar.co.uk:
>
> > fStu wrote:
> >
> >> After my holidays, or early next year (depending on the financial
> >> damage), I intend to undertake a clutch replacement. Will be my first
> >> major job, but before I get shot down (I can hear you all gasping now),
> >> there are a couple of things I'd like to point out.
> >
> > Why?
> >
> > Is it slipping or showing any other signs of failure?
> >
> > Best thing to do with a clutch is to keep using the car until the
> > slipping starts to affect everyday driving, then chuck it at a spanner
> > monkey for replacement.
> >
> > FWIW, I've only ever needed the clutch doing on one of my cars.
>
> Main problem is the release bearing. It makes an embarassing groaning
noise
> when pulling away. The action of the clutch could be smoother, too - it's
a
> bit heavy and isn't very progressive (i.e. it's either in or out, no in-
> between), making smooth gearchanges difficult. I reckon a new clutch would
> solve all these issues, but there's no immediate rush.
No, this will be the clutch plate graunching on the gearbox input shaft.
They are teflon coated, but most manual 850 / 70 series with afew miles on
them, groan when pulling away because of this. I have had some success with
some HMP grease and or molybdenum disulphate grease used sparinginly on the
input shaft but it doesnt last indefinately.
Tim..
Date:Mon, 29 Aug 2005 20:28:06 +0000 (UTC)
Author:
|
Re: S70 Tools
"Tim S Kemp" wrote in news:Dc6dnTfNn5sR9I7eRVn-
oQ@karoo.co.uk:
> Stu wrote:
>
>> Main problem is the release bearing. It makes an embarassing groaning
>> noise when pulling away. The action of the clutch could be smoother,
>> too - it's a bit heavy and isn't very progressive (i.e. it's either
>> in or out, no in- between), making smooth gearchanges difficult. I
>> reckon a new clutch would solve all these issues, but there's no
>> immediate rush.
>
> They can be a bit grabby... probably quite normal. You sure the groaning
> isn't driveshaft or rollbar linkages?
>
I know that the grabbiness (is that a word? ;-) can be a characteristic of
high powered cars, but I've read quite a few posts on the VOC forums that
say the clutch is much lighter and smoother after replacement.
I'm pretty sure about the noise as it only occurs on the bite point of the
clutch and you can tell that the part making the noise is a rotating one,
IYSWIM. Dump the clutch and the noise goes away quicker or doesn't happen
at all. The release bearing rattles at idle but is silent when the clutch
is out, so I think the groaning is happening at the point where the load on
the bearing is being released. It does vibrate slightly at this point, but
I've noticed that the top engine mount is split (only changed last year),
so replacing that should sort it.
--
Stuart Sharp
Date:Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:41:52 -0500
Author:
|
Re: S70 Tools
Stu wrote:
> vibrate slightly at this point, but I've noticed that the top engine
> mount is split (only changed last year), so replacing that should
> sort it.
heh they do that... http://www.kalmar-union.com/ sell polyurethane ones...
--
re-configure the solar matrix in parallel for endothermic propulsion
Date:Mon, 29 Aug 2005 21:51:08 +0100
Author:
|
Re: S70 Tools
"Tim.." wrote in
news:devr0d$d1m$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com:
>
> "Stu" wrote in message
> news:Xns96C1D4DC6D282nobodyhomecom@216.196.109.144...
>> steve@italiancar.co.uk (SteveH) wrote in
>> news:1h22ivl.1nbu2271t7wxmfN%steve@italiancar.co.uk:
>>
>> > AstraVanMan wrote:
>> >
>> >> >> After my holidays, or early next year (depending on the
>> >> >> financial damage), I intend to undertake a clutch replacement.
>> >> >> Will be my first major job, but before I get shot down (I can
>> >> >> hear you all gasping now), there are a couple of things I'd
>> >> >> like to point out.
>> >> >
>> >> > Why?
>> >> >
>> >> > Is it slipping or showing any other signs of failure?
>> >> >
>> >> > Best thing to do with a clutch is to keep using the car until
>> >> > the slipping starts to affect everyday driving, then chuck it at
>> >> > a spanner monkey for replacement.
>> >>
>> >> Erm, Steve, I think you need to re-read Stu's post. I think he's
>> >> quite looking forward to the challenge :-)
>> >
>>
>> 'Tis true, I do like a challenge :-)
>>
>> > That's up to the point you drop the gearbox out, realise it weighs
>> > a metric fuckload and that you haven't really got the car far
>> > enough off the ground to work safely.
>>
>> I've no intention of trying to lift it by myself! I thought that two
>> lads would be able to handle it? Please tell me if I'm being vain. I
>> realised about the height and intend to measure the ground clearance
>> before starting to unbolt the box. Is it really not possible without
>> a lift?
>
> For an 850 / 70 series clutch you need a 2 post lift and either an
> engine steady bar (spans suspension turrets and supports engine from
> above) or an engine jack (supports from below)
I know about the steady bar, I can get one made from box section, with
some legs welded on, or hire one from VOC. Is there so much ground
clearance required that you have to use a lift?
>
> The front subframe with suspension / hubs / driveshafts / steeringh
> rack etc etc etc has to be dropped at least 8 inches to make enough
> room for the gearbox to slide away from the engine enough to access
> the clutch without fouling on the chassis legs.
>
> It is a basic nut and bolt job, but needs time, patience and the right
> supports. There are too many hoses / wires and stuff with minimal
> slack to rush.
I don't rush jobs that I haven't done before. Everything is done slowly
and methodically.
>
> Book time for a dealer is over 5 hrs, so you can double that at least
> on your own for the first time.
No problem :-)
>
> I would very strongly recommend removing the flywheel (possibly giving
> it a light skim as well) to replace the crank main seal which
> invariably go to leak, and replacing the clutch slave cylinder whilst
> you are at it.
>
> Tim..
>
>
I intend to do the seal. My colleague, who has changed clutches by
himself before, is less confident of doing the seal successfully than the
clutch! Says they can be tricky to get seated properly. Slave cylinder on
mine, being an early model, is an external type with a conventional
release fork in the bellhousing, so no worries there.
--
Stuart Sharp
Date:Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:56:22 -0500
Author:
|
Re: S70 Tools
"Tim.." wrote in
news:devr4m$dbf$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com:
>
> "Stu" wrote in message
> news:Xns96C1D40636B55nobodyhomecom@216.196.109.144...
>> steve@italiancar.co.uk (SteveH) wrote in news:1h22i8f.acbqns1nc2u4gN%
>> steve@italiancar.co.uk:
>>
>> > fStu wrote:
>> >
>> >> After my holidays, or early next year (depending on the financial
>> >> damage), I intend to undertake a clutch replacement. Will be my
>> >> first major job, but before I get shot down (I can hear you all
>> >> gasping now), there are a couple of things I'd like to point out.
>> >
>> > Why?
>> >
>> > Is it slipping or showing any other signs of failure?
>> >
>> > Best thing to do with a clutch is to keep using the car until the
>> > slipping starts to affect everyday driving, then chuck it at a
>> > spanner monkey for replacement.
>> >
>> > FWIW, I've only ever needed the clutch doing on one of my cars.
>>
>> Main problem is the release bearing. It makes an embarassing groaning
> noise
>> when pulling away. The action of the clutch could be smoother, too -
>> it's
> a
>> bit heavy and isn't very progressive (i.e. it's either in or out, no
>> in- between), making smooth gearchanges difficult. I reckon a new
>> clutch would solve all these issues, but there's no immediate rush.
>
> No, this will be the clutch plate graunching on the gearbox input
> shaft. They are teflon coated, but most manual 850 / 70 series with
> afew miles on them, groan when pulling away because of this. I have
> had some success with some HMP grease and or molybdenum disulphate
> grease used sparinginly on the input shaft but it doesnt last
> indefinately.
>
> Tim..
>
>
Ah, right - haven't heard that one yet. As minor as the groaning may be,
the release bearing is definitely past it's best. I've stopped worrying
that it'll pack up at any time and intend to do the job when I'm ready.
This is just a bit of advance planning. It may be well into next year
before I actually get round to doing it :-) I take it that you've done
the job before,then, having used the high temp. grease?
--
Stuart Sharp
Date:Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:05:18 -0500
Author:
|
Re: S70 Tools
"Tim S Kemp" wrote in
news:SbCdnctOc8Ci6I7eRVn-3w@karoo.co.uk:
> Stu wrote:
>
>> vibrate slightly at this point, but I've noticed that the top engine
>> mount is split (only changed last year), so replacing that should
>> sort it.
>
> heh they do that... http://www.kalmar-union.com/ sell polyurethane
> ones...
>
>
So do eurocarparts. I nearly got one the other day, then I read that they
allow more vibrations through to the cabin. One guy is selling his for that
reason. Hence I decided to get a normal rubber one and keep replacing it.
Being a pretty smooth (but not slow) driver, I reckon I can get a bit
longer out of it this time ;-)
--
Stuart Sharp
Date:Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:09:29 -0500
Author:
|
Re: S70 Tools
Stu wrote in news:Xns96C1E169F46A5nobodyhomecom@
216.196.109.144:
> "Tim.." wrote in
> news:devr4m$dbf$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com:
>
>>
>> "Stu" wrote in message
>> news:Xns96C1D40636B55nobodyhomecom@216.196.109.144...
>>> steve@italiancar.co.uk (SteveH) wrote in news:1h22i8f.acbqns1nc2u4gN%
>>> steve@italiancar.co.uk:
>>>
>>> > fStu wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> After my holidays, or early next year (depending on the financial
>>> >> damage), I intend to undertake a clutch replacement. Will be my
>>> >> first major job, but before I get shot down (I can hear you all
>>> >> gasping now), there are a couple of things I'd like to point out.
>>> >
>>> > Why?
>>> >
>>> > Is it slipping or showing any other signs of failure?
>>> >
>>> > Best thing to do with a clutch is to keep using the car until the
>>> > slipping starts to affect everyday driving, then chuck it at a
>>> > spanner monkey for replacement.
>>> >
>>> > FWIW, I've only ever needed the clutch doing on one of my cars.
>>>
>>> Main problem is the release bearing. It makes an embarassing groaning
>> noise
>>> when pulling away. The action of the clutch could be smoother, too -
>>> it's
>> a
>>> bit heavy and isn't very progressive (i.e. it's either in or out, no
>>> in- between), making smooth gearchanges difficult. I reckon a new
>>> clutch would solve all these issues, but there's no immediate rush.
>>
>> No, this will be the clutch plate graunching on the gearbox input
>> shaft. They are teflon coated, but most manual 850 / 70 series with
>> afew miles on them, groan when pulling away because of this. I have
>> had some success with some HMP grease and or molybdenum disulphate
>> grease used sparinginly on the input shaft but it doesnt last
>> indefinately.
>>
>> Tim..
>>
>>
> Ah, right - haven't heard that one yet. As minor as the groaning may
be,
> the release bearing is definitely past it's best. I've stopped worrying
> that it'll pack up at any time and intend to do the job when I'm ready.
> This is just a bit of advance planning. It may be well into next year
> before I actually get round to doing it :-) I take it that you've done
> the job before,then, having used the high temp. grease?
>
>
>
BTW, the Haynes book of lies says NOT to lubricate the input shaft
because of the coating, but the VADIS manual from Volvo says that it
should be sprayed with a certain Volvo lubricant. Anybody know what the
spray lubricant is?
--
Stuart Sharp
Date:Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:16:24 -0500
Author:
|
Re: S70 Tools
On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 18:19:36 +0100, SteveH wrote:
>realise it weighs a metric fuckload
<applause>
I've had things that weighed just as much as that. Usually drop off after
the two farts and a grunt tight bolt was unscrewed.
</applause>
Date:Mon, 29 Aug 2005 23:34:17 +0100
Author:
|
|