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Smoky Omega - any suggestions?   
As my tame mechanic seems to be on holiday, I'll ask the collected
wisdom here.

Vx Omega 2.0 16v ecotec. Starts & runs fine, but as soon as it gets warm
it smokes - seriously. It's blue oil smoke, and even at idle there's a
visible stream of it from the exhaust - rev it and there's clouds. Leave
it idling for several minutes and there's an oily smoky haze round the
car. But it doesn't smoke at all from cold.

It's spitting water from the exhaust too, which looks like head gasket I
suppose, but it this likely to make it smoke that badly? It seems to
drive fine, but as it's not MOT'd I can't test that properly; driving it
up and down our slip road it seems fine, pulls well and doesn't misfire.

It has just had a new crank sensor and was fault-code read, after
putting in the new sensor it had no fault codes. It was however smoking
then. Before that I don't know; it was a second-hand engine which was
supposedly running fine before.
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Date:Sat, 27 Aug 2005 19:16:16 GMT   Author:  

Re: Smoky Omega - any suggestions?   
"Chris Bolus"  wrote in message
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> As my tame mechanic seems to be on holiday, I'll ask the collected
> wisdom here.
>
> Vx Omega 2.0 16v ecotec. Starts & runs fine, but as soon as it gets warm
> it smokes - seriously. It's blue oil smoke, and even at idle there's a
> visible stream of it from the exhaust - rev it and there's clouds. Leave
> it idling for several minutes and there's an oily smoky haze round the
> car. But it doesn't smoke at all from cold.
>
> It's spitting water from the exhaust too, which looks like head gasket I
> suppose, but it this likely to make it smoke that badly? It seems to
> drive fine, but as it's not MOT'd I can't test that properly; driving it
> up and down our slip road it seems fine, pulls well and doesn't misfire.
>
> It has just had a new crank sensor and was fault-code read, after
> putting in the new sensor it had no fault codes. It was however smoking
> then. Before that I don't know; it was a second-hand engine which was
> supposedly running fine before.


Possibly a broken up oil control ring, but my money is on a cracked head
which is opening up as it expands as it warms up.

Pull the plugs and see which one is sooty from the oil.

Tim..
Date:Sun, 28 Aug 2005 00:52:31 +0000 (UTC)   Author:  

Re: Smoky Omega - any suggestions?   
On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 00:52:31 +0000 (UTC), "Tim.."
 wrote:


>
>"Chris Bolus"  wrote in message
>news:1ge1h1pifh5g4k4e3bcg65vq4eb4559e91@4ax.com...
>> As my tame mechanic seems to be on holiday, I'll ask the collected
>> wisdom here.
>>
>> Vx Omega 2.0 16v ecotec. Starts & runs fine, but as soon as it gets warm
>> it smokes - seriously. It's blue oil smoke, and even at idle there's a
>> visible stream of it from the exhaust - rev it and there's clouds. Leave
>> it idling for several minutes and there's an oily smoky haze round the
>> car. But it doesn't smoke at all from cold.
>>
>> It's spitting water from the exhaust too, which looks like head gasket I
>> suppose, but it this likely to make it smoke that badly? It seems to
>> drive fine, but as it's not MOT'd I can't test that properly; driving it
>> up and down our slip road it seems fine, pulls well and doesn't misfire.
>>
>> It has just had a new crank sensor and was fault-code read, after
>> putting in the new sensor it had no fault codes. It was however smoking
>> then. Before that I don't know; it was a second-hand engine which was
>> supposedly running fine before.
>
>Possibly a broken up oil control ring, but my money is on a cracked head
>which is opening up as it expands as it warms up.
>
>Pull the plugs and see which one is sooty from the oil.
>
>Tim..
>

Cracked head I could live with as I've a spare one in the boot :-)

I would have thought that if it was rings it would smoke when cold too?
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Regards,  Chris    (Please take out my car to reply by email)     
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---1967 Riley Elf---1965 Hillman Minx---1969 Morris Minor--
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Date:Sun, 28 Aug 2005 12:39:17 GMT   Author:  

Re: Smoky Omega - any suggestions?   
"Chris Bolus"  wrote in message 
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> On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 00:52:31 +0000 (UTC), "Tim.."
>  wrote:
>
>>
>>"Chris Bolus"  wrote in message
>>news:1ge1h1pifh5g4k4e3bcg65vq4eb4559e91@4ax.com...
>>> As my tame mechanic seems to be on holiday, I'll ask the collected
>>> wisdom here.
>>>
>>> Vx Omega 2.0 16v ecotec. Starts & runs fine, but as soon as it gets warm
>>> it smokes - seriously. It's blue oil smoke, and even at idle there's a
>>> visible stream of it from the exhaust - rev it and there's clouds. Leave
>>> it idling for several minutes and there's an oily smoky haze round the
>>> car. But it doesn't smoke at all from cold.
>>>
>>> It's spitting water from the exhaust too, which looks like head gasket I
>>> suppose, but it this likely to make it smoke that badly? It seems to
>>> drive fine, but as it's not MOT'd I can't test that properly; driving it
>>> up and down our slip road it seems fine, pulls well and doesn't misfire.
>>>
>>> It has just had a new crank sensor and was fault-code read, after
>>> putting in the new sensor it had no fault codes. It was however smoking
>>> then. Before that I don't know; it was a second-hand engine which was
>>> supposedly running fine before.
>>
>>Possibly a broken up oil control ring, but my money is on a cracked head
>>which is opening up as it expands as it warms up.
>>
>>Pull the plugs and see which one is sooty from the oil.
>>
>>Tim..
>>
> Cracked head I could live with as I've a spare one in the boot :-)
>
> I would have thought that if it was rings it would smoke when cold too?
> -- 
> Regards,  Chris    (Please take out my car to reply by email)
> ----1961 Austin A40 Farina----1966 Triumph Herald Estate---
> ---1967 Riley Elf---1965 Hillman Minx---1969 Morris Minor--
> -1972 Mini Clubman estate--1957 Standard 8--1979 Ford Capri


I would tend to agree if the rings were gone it would smoke all the time, 
Doin't let it go on for to long though as you will fubar the cat as well.

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Date:Sun, 28 Aug 2005 13:55:19 GMT   Author:  

Re: Smoky Omega - any suggestions?   
On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 13:55:19 GMT, "Gary Millar" 
wrote:


>
>"Chris Bolus"  wrote in message 
>news:rpb3h1hp7tqif07khltemrkvlgla1fdt9o@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 00:52:31 +0000 (UTC), "Tim.."
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Chris Bolus"  wrote in message
>>>news:1ge1h1pifh5g4k4e3bcg65vq4eb4559e91@4ax.com...
>>>> As my tame mechanic seems to be on holiday, I'll ask the collected
>>>> wisdom here.
>>>>
>>>> Vx Omega 2.0 16v ecotec. Starts & runs fine, but as soon as it gets warm
>>>> it smokes - seriously. It's blue oil smoke, and even at idle there's a
>>>> visible stream of it from the exhaust - rev it and there's clouds. Leave
>>>> it idling for several minutes and there's an oily smoky haze round the
>>>> car. But it doesn't smoke at all from cold.
>>>>
>>>> It's spitting water from the exhaust too, which looks like head gasket I
>>>> suppose, but it this likely to make it smoke that badly? It seems to
>>>> drive fine, but as it's not MOT'd I can't test that properly; driving it
>>>> up and down our slip road it seems fine, pulls well and doesn't misfire.
>>>>
>>>> It has just had a new crank sensor and was fault-code read, after
>>>> putting in the new sensor it had no fault codes. It was however smoking
>>>> then. Before that I don't know; it was a second-hand engine which was
>>>> supposedly running fine before.
>>>
>>>Possibly a broken up oil control ring, but my money is on a cracked head
>>>which is opening up as it expands as it warms up.
>>>
>>>Pull the plugs and see which one is sooty from the oil.
>>>
>>>Tim..
>>>
>> Cracked head I could live with as I've a spare one in the boot :-)
>>
>> I would have thought that if it was rings it would smoke when cold too?
>> -- 

>
>I would tend to agree if the rings were gone it would smoke all the time, 
>Doin't let it go on for to long though as you will fubar the cat as well.


No chance of that. It's not MOT'd, and no chance of getting one like
that.
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Regards,  Chris    (Please take out my car to reply by email)     
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---1967 Riley Elf---1965 Hillman Minx---1969 Morris Minor--
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Date:Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:56:48 GMT   Author: