Seen in Woolies - a 32" LCD TV at 599. Surely this is the cheapest 32" LCD 
available. They claim it's half price.

More details on the Woolies website - 
http://www.woolworths.co.uk/wwstore/product.jhtml?op=details&product=50474891

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EK wrote:

> Seen in Woolies - a 32" LCD TV at 599. Surely this is the cheapest
> 32" LCD available. They claim it's half price.


Never heard of Crown, don't they make paint? ;o) Can't find any reviews 
either.

I reckon you'd be better spending 200 more and getting something like this: 
http://www.dabs.com/uk/productview.htm?quicklinx=3R5Z. HD Ready, and a 
review here: http://www.trustedreviews.com/article.aspx?art=1253.

Dan.

On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 19:15:39 +0100, "Dan"  wrote:


>EK wrote:
>> Seen in Woolies - a 32" LCD TV at 599. Surely this is the cheapest
>> 32" LCD available. They claim it's half price.
>
>Never heard of Crown, don't they make paint? ;o) Can't find any reviews 
>either.


The Crown brand has been around since the forties but I think various
people use it under licence these days.

sponix

On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 19:15:39 +0100, "Dan"  wrote:




Get your clock sorted

"Dan"  wrote in message 
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> EK wrote:
>> Seen in Woolies - a 32" LCD TV at 599. Surely this is the cheapest
>> 32" LCD available. They claim it's half price.
>
> Never heard of Crown, don't they make paint? ;o) Can't find any reviews 
> either.
>
> I reckon you'd be better spending 200 more and getting something like 
> this: http://www.dabs.com/uk/productview.htm?quicklinx=3R5Z. HD Ready, and 
> a review here: http://www.trustedreviews.com/article.aspx?art=1253.
>
> Dan.
>


Crown also make paint and wallpaper - different companies.

These days Crown is another "assembler" that rebadges like Bush, Goodmans, 
etc.

Walter B. wrote:

> Get your clock sorted


Cheers, on the laptop so didn't notice.

Dan.

EK wrote:

> Seen in Woolies - a 32" LCD TV at 599. Surely this is the cheapest 32" LCD 
> available. They claim it's half price.
> 
> More details on the Woolies website - 
> http://www.woolworths.co.uk/wwstore/product.jhtml?op=details&product=50474891
> 

Can't see anything about contrast ratios, refresh rates........... 
that's what really matters.

in 4310f90b$0$6470$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com, steeler attempted to 
say...

> "Dan"  wrote in message
> news:4310ae50$0$12914$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com...
>> EK wrote:
>>> Seen in Woolies - a 32" LCD TV at 599. Surely this is the cheapest
>>> 32" LCD available. They claim it's half price.
>>
>> Never heard of Crown, don't they make paint? ;o) Can't find any reviews
>> either.
>>
>> I reckon you'd be better spending 200 more and getting something like
>> this: http://www.dabs.com/uk/productview.htm?quicklinx=3R5Z. HD Ready, 
>> and
>> a review here: http://www.trustedreviews.com/article.aspx?art=1253.
>>
>> Dan.
>>
>
> Crown also make paint and wallpaper - different companies.
>
> These days Crown is another "assembler" that rebadges like Bush, Goodmans,
> etc.


I don't think Crown is owned by Alba. A list of brands made by Alba can be 
found on their website, including Bush and Goodmans

http://www.albaplc.com/html/home.htm

:-)

>> Seen in Woolies - a 32" LCD TV at 599. Surely this is the cheapest 
>> 32" LCD available. They claim it's half price.
>>
>> More details on the Woolies website - 
>> http://www.woolworths.co.uk/wwstore/product.jhtml?op=details&product=50474891
>>
> Can't see anything about contrast ratios, refresh rates........... 
> that's what really matters.


from Crown web site...

http://www.crowncorporation.co.uk/television/details/index.asp?ProductID=73

Channel Auto Search and Store
1366 X 768 Resolution
Brightness 500 Cd/m
Contrast Ratio 600:1
Viewing Angle:
Horizontal 170
Vertical 170
Fast Text
Stereo/NICAM/virtual Dolby
PC Compatible

"bobda"  wrote in message 
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> in 4310f90b$0$6470$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com, steeler attempted to 
> say...
>> "Dan"  wrote in message
>> news:4310ae50$0$12914$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com...
>>> EK wrote:
>>>> Seen in Woolies - a 32" LCD TV at 599. Surely this is the cheapest
>>>> 32" LCD available. They claim it's half price.
>>>
>>> Never heard of Crown, don't they make paint? ;o) Can't find any reviews
>>> either.
>>>
>>> I reckon you'd be better spending 200 more and getting something like
>>> this: http://www.dabs.com/uk/productview.htm?quicklinx=3R5Z. HD Ready, 
>>> and
>>> a review here: http://www.trustedreviews.com/article.aspx?art=1253.
>>>
>>> Dan.
>>>
>>
>> Crown also make paint and wallpaper - different companies.
>>
>> These days Crown is another "assembler" that rebadges like Bush, 
>> Goodmans,
>> etc.
>
> I don't think Crown is owned by Alba. A list of brands made by Alba can be 
> found on their website, including Bush and Goodmans
>
> http://www.albaplc.com/html/home.htm
>
> :-)


It isn't.  But it is a similar company.

EK wrote:

> Seen in Woolies - a 32" LCD TV at 599. Surely this is the cheapest 32" LCD 
> available. They claim it's half price.
> 
> More details on the Woolies website - 
> http://www.woolworths.co.uk/wwstore/product.jhtml?op=details&product=50474891
> 


If you can wait (next year) the industry will be dumping cold cathode backlighting
in favour of the new hi-bright RGB LED back light.  Have a google and you'll see 
what I mean.
or http://neasia.nikkeibp.com/neasiaarchivedetail/000503. Probably it will mean 
a lot of
low prices for the CCFL based product from now on.

"EK"  wrote in message
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> Seen in Woolies - a 32" LCD TV at 599. Surely this is the cheapest 32"
LCD
> available. They claim it's half price.
>
> More details on the Woolies website -
>

http://www.woolworths.co.uk/wwstore/product.jhtml?op=details&product=50474891

>

 Who the heck wants something that huge in their living room???
 It seems strange that given that most modern estate housing has tiny room,
people want to buy massive TV sets and humungous 3 piece suites. It looks
really odd.

On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 18:21:45 +0100, "EK" 
wrote:


>Seen in Woolies - a 32" LCD TV at 599. Surely this is the cheapest 32" LCD 
>available. They claim it's half price.
>
>More details on the Woolies website - 
>http://www.woolworths.co.uk/wwstore/product.jhtml?op=details&product=50474891

we saw it in a woolies branch, and the picture quality wasn;t that
good.

Lots of fuzzyness and dot crawl depite it coming from a DVD player,
mind you it was a crown or bush dvd player so that might be the root
of the problems too..

View before buying...

"Gavin"  wrote in message 
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> On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 18:21:45 +0100, "EK" 
> wrote:
>
>>Seen in Woolies - a 32" LCD TV at 599. Surely this is the cheapest 32" 
>>LCD
>>available. They claim it's half price.
>>
>>More details on the Woolies website -
>>http://www.woolworths.co.uk/wwstore/product.jhtml?op=details&product=50474891
> we saw it in a woolies branch, and the picture quality wasn;t that
> good.
>
> Lots of fuzzyness and dot crawl depite it coming from a DVD player,
> mind you it was a crown or bush dvd player so that might be the root
> of the problems too..


LCDs are like plasmas..
they only give the best picture if it is at the panels native resolution.

HDTV will be either 1280x720 or 1920x1080 so anything that doesn't have that 
resolution will not give the best picture.

So its best to realise that there are no (not that I have seen) plasmas that 
will give the highest resolution and most LCDs and plasmas are XXXXx768 
(1366x768 being popular as its 16:9).
There are a few plasmas that will do the lowest resolution and quite a few 
LCDs.

None of the LCDs will look as good as a good plasma when being feed from a 
TV signal.

(This is not the case using DVI from a PC with freeview BTW.)

So AFAICT if its TV you want (that includes most DVD players).. buy a TV or 
a cheap plasma.

If its HDTV you are after then forget plasmas (even most of the expensive 
ones that are "hdtv ready") and buy an LCD (or projector) with either 
1920x1080 or 1280x720.


>
> View before buying...


Wise words.

I would pay a bit more and buy a branded one like a Sony

OK, please explain these two contradictory statements in your last post:-


> None of the LCDs will look as good as a good plasma when being feed from a 
> TV signal.

yet....

> If its HDTV you are after then forget plasmas (even most of the expensive 
> ones that are "hdtv ready") and buy an LCD (or projector) with either 
> 1920x1080 or 1280x720.


So what you're saying is that LCD is not as good as plasma, except when it 
comes to HDTV whereupon LCD is superior? I've used a number of plasma 
screens (not cheapo ones either, we're talking Pioneer etc) and picture 
quality on those is good, but it is nothing compared to an LCD - these also 
have the added benefit of not aging, unlike plasma panels, although CCFL 
backlights do eventually fizzle out. That's a point, are CCFL backlights 
replaceable on these new LCD TVs or are they integral to the panel?  That 
could be a bit of a bugger in 5 years time when they die....

Hellraiser............>

"JennyAdams1977"  wrote in message 
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>I would pay a bit more and buy a branded one like a Sony
>


And as that is your stock answer to everything, we will disregard it as 
always.

Hellraiser...........>

"JennyAdams1977"  wrote in message 
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>I would pay a bit more and buy a branded one like a Sony
>


Sony used at one time to be a very good Brand, but nowadays they are just 
overpriced rubbish.

JohnT

"Hellraiser"  wrote in message 
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> OK, please explain these two contradictory statements in your last post:-
>
>> None of the LCDs will look as good as a good plasma when being feed from 
>> a TV signal.
>
> yet....
>
>> If its HDTV you are after then forget plasmas (even most of the expensive 
>> ones that are "hdtv ready") and buy an LCD (or projector) with either 
>> 1920x1080 or 1280x720.
>
> So what you're saying is that LCD is not as good as plasma, except when it 
> comes to HDTV whereupon LCD is superior?


Yes.
HDTV is a digital technology unlike normal TV (freeview is a compromise).
It is specifically designed to display at 1280x720 or 1920x1080.
If your panel uses any other resolution then interpolation will occur, this 
is bad.

(Makes you wonder why so many of the panels are XXXXx768 these days?..
Good for computers bad for HDTV))

IME plasmas generally display PAL TV better than LCD does (having said that 
I like my LCD panel (1280x720)).
They will not display HDTV better than LCD will.


> I've used a number of plasma screens (not cheapo ones either, we're 
> talking Pioneer etc) and picture quality on those is good, but it is 
> nothing compared to an LCD - these also have the added benefit of not 
> aging, unlike plasma panels, although CCFL backlights do eventually fizzle 
> out. That's a point, are CCFL backlights replaceable on these new LCD TVs 
> or are they integral to the panel?  That could be a bit of a bugger in 5 
> years time when they die....


All parts are exchangeable if you can afford it.

> Yes.
> HDTV is a digital technology unlike normal TV (freeview is a compromise).
> It is specifically designed to display at 1280x720 or 1920x1080.
> If your panel uses any other resolution then interpolation will occur, 
> this is bad.


Yeah, but when you consider the horrible MPEG2 artifacting you get on most 
of the Sky channels, then a little interpolation particularly on a hi-res 
screen will barely be noticeable by comparison!


> (Makes you wonder why so many of the panels are XXXXx768 these days?..
> Good for computers bad for HDTV))
>
> IME plasmas generally display PAL TV better than LCD does (having said 
> that I like my LCD panel (1280x720)).
> They will not display HDTV better than LCD will.


Have to disagree there - I've seen a few LCDs on demo and side-by-side with 
plasmas the LCD wipes the floor with them, even displaying a standard Sky 
signal. Admittedly it's an RGB signal being fed in, so there is a minimum of 
analogue interference, but the plasmas always tend to look a tad smeary by 
comparison.


>> I've used a number of plasma screens (not cheapo ones either, we're 
>> talking Pioneer etc) and picture quality on those is good, but it is 
>> nothing compared to an LCD - these also have the added benefit of not 
>> aging, unlike plasma panels, although CCFL backlights do eventually 
>> fizzle out. That's a point, are CCFL backlights replaceable on these new 
>> LCD TVs or are they integral to the panel?  That could be a bit of a 
>> bugger in 5 years time when they die....
>
> All parts are exchangeable if you can afford it.


Yeah, but will you need to exchange the entire array or just the backlight? 
Backlights are cheap enough, but an entire 32" panel would be like changing 
the tube in a conventional CRT - expensive enough to scrap the set.

Hellraiser..............>

> Yeah, but will you need to exchange the entire array or just the 
> backlight? Backlights are cheap enough, but an entire 32" panel would 
> be like changing the tube in a conventional CRT - expensive enough to 
> scrap the set.
>


what about the spec of this panel, is it any good ?

Brightness 500 Cd/m
Contrast Ratio 600:1

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>
> "EK"  wrote in message
> news:4310a121$0$13695$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...
>> Seen in Woolies - a 32" LCD TV at 599. Surely this is the cheapest 32"
> LCD
>> available. They claim it's half price.
>>
>> More details on the Woolies website -
>>
> http://www.woolworths.co.uk/wwstore/product.jhtml?op=details&product=50474891
>>
> Who the heck wants something that huge in their living room???
> It seems strange that given that most modern estate housing has tiny room,
> people want to buy massive TV sets and humungous 3 piece suites. It looks
> really odd.


What a dumb response!
I'm happy with my plasma that's 10" bigger.
You stick with your 14" portable if you're happy!