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cutting a channel in plaster   
Hi

i need to cut a channel in a wall around 1' 6" long and 1" wide and around
1"deep to take trunking for some cables i want to bury. what's the best way?

i though of scoring 2 lines and chiselling but this seems a long winded way.
is there an alternate tool like a router that i could employ

Mark
Date:Thu, 25 Aug 2005 15:19:50 +0100   Author:  

Re: cutting a channel in plaster   
Could use a standard drill and pull the drill down whilst drilling.
Thats how an Alarm engineer did it anyway!!!




"Mark D Smith"  wrote in message
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> Hi
>
> i need to cut a channel in a wall around 1' 6" long and 1" wide and around
> 1"deep to take trunking for some cables i want to bury. what's the best
way?
>
> i though of scoring 2 lines and chiselling but this seems a long winded
way.
> is there an alternate tool like a router that i could employ
>
> Mark
>
Date:Thu, 25 Aug 2005 16:39:23 +0100   Author:  

Re: cutting a channel in plaster   
"vw-stuff"  wrote in message 
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>
>
>
> "Mark D Smith"  wrote in message
> news:430dd3a2$0$318$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk...
>> Hi
>>
>> i need to cut a channel in a wall around 1' 6" long and 1" wide and 
>> around
>> 1"deep to take trunking for some cables i want to bury. what's the best
> way?
>>
>> i though of scoring 2 lines and chiselling but this seems a long winded
> way.
>> is there an alternate tool like a router that i could employ
>>

> Could use a standard drill and pull the drill down whilst drilling.
> Thats how an Alarm engineer did it anyway!!!
>


Or, if the wall is tough, drill separate holes 1 inch deep along the length 
of your channel, keeping them as close together as possible, and then either 
chisel out between or drag the drill as per the previous suggestion.   I 
have used this method many times.
-- 
Keith Willcocks
(If you can't laugh at life, it ain't worth living!)
Date:Thu, 25 Aug 2005 17:00:59 +0000 (UTC)   Author:  

Re: cutting a channel in plaster   
Use an SDS drill with rotary  stop or the more traditional way - hammer &
chisel  !!


"Mark D Smith"  wrote in message
news:430dd3a2$0$318$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk...

> Hi
>
> i need to cut a channel in a wall around 1' 6" long and 1" wide and around
> 1"deep to take trunking for some cables i want to bury. what's the best
way?
>
> i though of scoring 2 lines and chiselling but this seems a long winded
way.
> is there an alternate tool like a router that i could employ
>
> Mark
>
Date:Thu, 25 Aug 2005 18:46:08 +0100   Author:  

Re: cutting a channel in plaster   
"Keith Willcocks"  wrote in message 
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>
> "vw-stuff"  wrote in message 
> news:gJ6dnbTrvKeve5DeRVnyvw@pipex.net...
>>
>>
>>
>> "Mark D Smith"  wrote in message
>> news:430dd3a2$0$318$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk...
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> i need to cut a channel in a wall around 1' 6" long and 1" wide and 
>>> around
>>> 1"deep to take trunking for some cables i want to bury. what's the best
>> way?
>>>
>>> i though of scoring 2 lines and chiselling but this seems a long winded
>> way.
>>> is there an alternate tool like a router that i could employ
>>>
>
>> Could use a standard drill and pull the drill down whilst drilling.
>> Thats how an Alarm engineer did it anyway!!!
>>
>
> Or, if the wall is tough, drill separate holes 1 inch deep along the 
> length of your channel, keeping them as close together as possible, and 
> then either chisel out between or drag the drill as per the previous 
> suggestion.   I have used this method many times.
> -- 
> Keith Willcocks
> (If you can't laugh at life, it ain't worth living!)
>
>


At 1inch deep you may be cutting into brickwork and not just plaster.

Your options are Bob's suggestions of
Hammer and chisel
SDS drill and chisel
Drill lots of holes and use a chisel to join them (as Keith said)
or
if you want LOTS of dust and a nice smooth edge to the chase use an angle 
grider to make two cuts and then just chisel the insides out by hand.

On an old house where the plaster is likely to be blown this method will 
make the least damage to the plaster. On a newer house with plaster applied 
directly to breeze block a hammer and bolster chisel is the best method.

Adam
Date:Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:50:44 GMT   Author:  

Re: cutting a channel in plaster   
I've always been meaning to try one of these.....

http://www.machinemart.co.uk/product.asp?p=060222007&r=2132&g=116

Rgds,

Will.

"ARWadsworth"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Keith Willcocks"  wrote in message 
> news:dektgb$ki4$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>>
>> "vw-stuff"  wrote in message 
>> news:gJ6dnbTrvKeve5DeRVnyvw@pipex.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mark D Smith"  wrote in message
>>> news:430dd3a2$0$318$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk...
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> i need to cut a channel in a wall around 1' 6" long and 1" wide and 
>>>> around
>>>> 1"deep to take trunking for some cables i want to bury. what's the best
>>> way?
>>>>
>>>> i though of scoring 2 lines and chiselling but this seems a long winded
>>> way.
>>>> is there an alternate tool like a router that i could employ
>>>>
>>
>>> Could use a standard drill and pull the drill down whilst drilling.
>>> Thats how an Alarm engineer did it anyway!!!
>>>
>>
>> Or, if the wall is tough, drill separate holes 1 inch deep along the 
>> length of your channel, keeping them as close together as possible, and 
>> then either chisel out between or drag the drill as per the previous 
>> suggestion.   I have used this method many times.
>> -- 
>> Keith Willcocks
>> (If you can't laugh at life, it ain't worth living!)
>>
>>
>
> At 1inch deep you may be cutting into brickwork and not just plaster.
>
> Your options are Bob's suggestions of
> Hammer and chisel
> SDS drill and chisel
> Drill lots of holes and use a chisel to join them (as Keith said)
> or
> if you want LOTS of dust and a nice smooth edge to the chase use an angle 
> grider to make two cuts and then just chisel the insides out by hand.
>
> On an old house where the plaster is likely to be blown this method will 
> make the least damage to the plaster. On a newer house with plaster 
> applied directly to breeze block a hammer and bolster chisel is the best 
> method.
>
> Adam 
Date:Thu, 25 Aug 2005 22:29:15 GMT   Author:  

Re: cutting a channel in plaster   
In article <EaqPe.96299$G8.37989@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
	"ARWadsworth"  writes:

>or
>if you want LOTS of dust and a nice smooth edge to the chase use an angle 
>grider to make two cuts and then just chisel the insides out by hand.


or hire (or buy) a plaster chaser, which is a double bladed
angle grinder with cover and vacuum cleaner take-off, designed
to do the job. Don't be fooled into thinking the vacuum cleaner
take-off means it's a clean job -- these things chuck out dust
at such a rate that only some of it will end up in the vacuum
cleaner.

-- 
Andrew Gabriel
Date:25 Aug 2005 22:33:07 GMT   Author:  

Re: cutting a channel in plaster   
ALDI still have some wall chasers for 50.
They work very well - and - you can connect them to a "hoover" to suck up 
the dust!

Nic.

"bob"  wrote in message 
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> Use an SDS drill with rotary  stop or the more traditional way - hammer &
> chisel  !!
>
>
> "Mark D Smith"  wrote in message
> news:430dd3a2$0$318$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk...
>> Hi
>>
>> i need to cut a channel in a wall around 1' 6" long and 1" wide and 
>> around
>> 1"deep to take trunking for some cables i want to bury. what's the best
> way?
>>
>> i though of scoring 2 lines and chiselling but this seems a long winded
> way.
>> is there an alternate tool like a router that i could employ
>>
>> Mark
>>
>
> 
Date:Fri, 26 Aug 2005 07:49:20 GMT   Author:  

Re: cutting a channel in plaster   
"William Gould"  wrote in message
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> I've always been meaning to try one of these.....
>
> http://www.machinemart.co.uk/product.asp?p=060222007&r=2132&g=116
>
> Rgds,
>
> Will.
>

<snip>

As i have more than 1 of these jobs pending that tool looks ideal.

(its old plaster 90-100 years)

thanks to all the other reply's

Mark
Date:Fri, 26 Aug 2005 08:52:14 +0100   Author:  

Re: cutting a channel in plaster   
"Picker"  wrote in message
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> ALDI still have some wall chasers for 50.
> They work very well - and - you can connect them to a "hoover" to suck up
> the dust!
>
> Nic.
>

<snip>

I thought aldi only sold food!

website is not very helpful

Mark
Date:Fri, 26 Aug 2005 09:00:01 +0100   Author:  

Re: cutting a channel in plaster   
"Mark D Smith"  wrote in message
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>
> "Picker"  wrote in message
> news:4QzPe.35689$Il.28851@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> > ALDI still have some wall chasers for 50.
> > They work very well - and - you can connect them to a "hoover" to suck
up
> > the dust!
> >
> > Nic.
> >
> <snip>
>
> I thought aldi only sold food!
>


Oh no, they do a lot of tools, esp power tools, also garden/barbeque stuff.
I got a cut-off saw recently, and was disappointed prior to that in being
too late (mid-afternoon) when thy did an air powered staple/nail gun for
19.99. OK, not world famous brands, but ok for diy use.

New stock day is Thursday and there's always a queue at our one. Sometimes
they advertise in the tabloids on Weds so you can see what's coming.

Steve
Date:Fri, 26 Aug 2005 09:05:34 +0100   Author:  

Re: cutting a channel in plaster   
I used an old circular saw blade, wrapped well with a cloth - no mess!
Pulling down with even strokes.
Works well with breeze block backing

Cojack
Date:Fri, 26 Aug 2005 08:53:49 +0000 (UTC)   Author:  

Re: cutting a channel in plaster   
"Colin Jackson"  wrote in message 
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>I used an old circular saw blade, wrapped well with a cloth - no mess!
> Pulling down with even strokes.
> Works well with breeze block backing
>

When my mate had extensive work done on his house the builder attached a 
batton to wall and hung a cloth down. He did two cuts at 45 using a 
circular saw behind the cloth, leaving a V groove to put cables in. Take 
cloth down and hopefully all the dust is in the cloth.

I tried this chasing a groove for shower pipes, but was not happy running a 
power tool behind the cloth so just settled for covering everything in 
bathroom with dust !!!!
Date:Fri, 26 Aug 2005 10:28:58 +0100   Author:  

Re: cutting a channel in plaster   
ARWadsworth wrote:

> if you want LOTS of dust and a nice smooth edge to the chase use an
> angle grider to make two cuts and then just chisel the insides out by
> hand.


   We recently had electricians in to rewire the house they also cut
channels in the kitchen walls for extra switches, different positions of
sockets etc., they used angle grinders and the amount of dust was
INCREDIBLE, the backdoor was left open, the dust was billowing out of
the door as if it was smoke from a good going fire. Mind you as the door
to the rest of the house was closed and sealed they didn't seem too
worried about dust creation

-- 
This post contains no hidden meanings, no implications and certainly no
 hidden agendas so it should be taken at face value.  The wrong words
may be used this is due to my limitations with the English language .

yours S
Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione
Date:Fri, 26 Aug 2005 18:34:27 GMT   Author: