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"Woman loses hand in rail horror" at Stockport   
From the Manchester Evening News at
<http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/men/news/s/170/170884_woman_loses_hand_in_rail_horror.html>:

===== begin quote =====
A WOMAN has lost her hand in a horrific accident at Stockport train
station.

Witnesses at Platform 2 describe seeing the woman, aged 26, run into the
12.25pm Virgin Voyager train to London Euston, which was slowing down as
it pulled into the station.

The woman banged her head against a carriage before slipping through a
1-foot gap between the platform and the vehicle onto the track.

Her arm was thrown outwards as she fell and the train amputated her
hand, which was so badly damaged doctors were unable to save it.

[Copyright 2005 Manchester Evening News.]
=====  end quote  =====

I'm slightly surprised that nothing of this is mentioned on the NRES
website.

I'm even more surprised that there's a 1 foot gap between the platform
edge and the train (which would presumably be a Pendolino rather than a
Voyager). I know that platform 2 is a concave curve, but even so...
Comments from any Stockport regulars?

Condolences to the lady involved - I hope she's not lost her writing
hand.
-- 
Joyce Whitchurch, Stalybridge, UK
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Date:Tue, 23 Aug 2005 19:35:14 +0000 (UTC)   Author:  

Re: "Woman loses hand in rail horror" at Stockport   

>Condolences to the lady involved - I hope she's not lost her writing
>hand.


By the sounds of it she may have lost her boozing hand. How can
you "run into" a moving train unless pissed?

B2003
Date:23 Aug 2005 12:44:35 -0700   Author:  

Re: "Woman loses hand in rail horror" at Stockport   
Thank you for your symathetic words

May you and your loved ones never meet with an accident - and then an
uninformed cretin like you!
Date:23 Aug 2005 12:50:30 -0700   Author:  

Re: "Woman loses hand in rail horror" at Stockport   
"Boltar"  wrote in message
news:1124826275.182564.125180@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

> >Condolences to the lady involved - I hope she's not lost her writing
> >hand.
>
> By the sounds of it she may have lost her boozing hand. How can
> you "run into" a moving train unless pissed?


Lots of reasons.
You need to know whether "run into" is an accurate observation.
Don't be quite so judgemental. I can't understand why you feel the need to
give the impression you are a prat.


>
>
>
Date:Tue, 23 Aug 2005 19:59:57 GMT   Author:  

Re: "Woman loses hand in rail horror" at Stockport   
Damn , I just never have a violin handy when I need one.

B2003
Date:23 Aug 2005 13:10:40 -0700   Author:  

Re: "Woman loses hand in rail horror" at Stockport   

> Don't be quite so judgemental. I can't understand why you feel the need to
>give the impression you are a prat.


Its whats known as a "comment". You tend to find them on newsgroups you
know. If you don't like it why don't you go hug a tree or something so
you
feel less upset about it.

B2003
Date:23 Aug 2005 13:14:42 -0700   Author:  

Re: "Woman loses hand in rail horror" at Stockport   
"Tom Haliax"  wrote in message
news:1fLOe.14855$5m3.412@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...

>
> "Boltar"  wrote in message
> news:1124826275.182564.125180@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > >Condolences to the lady involved - I hope she's not lost her writing
> > >hand.
> >
> > By the sounds of it she may have lost her boozing hand. How can
> > you "run into" a moving train unless pissed?
>
> Lots of reasons.
> You need to know whether "run into" is an accurate observation.
> Don't be quite so judgemental. I can't understand why you feel the need to
> give the impression you are a prat.
>


If you think it is merely an impression then you must be new here.
Date:Tue, 23 Aug 2005 20:18:35 +0000 (UTC)   Author:  

Re: "Woman loses hand in rail horror" at Stockport   
On 23 Aug 2005 12:44:35 -0700 someone who may be "Boltar"
 wrote this:-


>By the sounds of it she may have lost her boozing hand. How can
>you "run into" a moving train unless pissed?


Quite a few ways, including being chased by someone.


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Date:Tue, 23 Aug 2005 22:24:49 +0100   Author:  

Re: "Woman loses hand in rail horror" at Stockport   

> Witnesses at Platform 2 describe seeing the woman, aged 26, run into the
> 12.25pm Virgin Voyager train to London Euston, which was slowing down as
> it pulled into the station.


More media inaccuracies. Voyagers don't operate between Stockport and 
Euston, it must have been a Pendolino.

Still, this is horrific for everyone involved. I once slipped on ice while 
running for a Voyager at Kensington Olympia, I'm glad the path I took after 
the slip guided me away from the platform edge instead of into the path of 
the oncoming train.

I now never run for trains in bad conditions as the dangers are too great.

Ian
Date:Tue, 23 Aug 2005 22:37:58 +0100   Author:  

Re: "Woman loses hand in rail horror" at Stockport   
In article ,
Boltar  wrote:


> >Condolences to the lady involved - I hope she's not lost her writing
> >hand.
> 
> By the sounds of it she may have lost her boozing hand. How can
> you "run into" a moving train unless pissed?
> 
> B2003
> 


If its one thing I have learned over the years, and it was brought home
by the CTRL2 accident is that you can NEVER trust news reports.

Accuracy isn't even in their vocabulary.

-- 
Adrian

"Theory and practice are the same in theory, but different in practice"
Date:Tue, 23 Aug 2005 22:53:21 +0100   Author:  

Re: "Woman loses hand in rail horror" at Stockport   
"Boltar"  wrote in message 
news:1124828082.906068.39850@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

>> Don't be quite so judgemental. I can't understand why you feel the need 
>> to
>>give the impression you are a prat.
>
> Its whats known as a "comment". You tend to find them on newsgroups you
> know. If you don't like it why don't you go hug a tree or something so
> you
> feel less upset about it.
>
> B2003
>


methinks Boltar need to engage brain before typing.
Date:Wed, 24 Aug 2005 09:03:12 GMT   Author:  

Re: "Woman loses hand in rail horror" at Stockport   
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 09:03:12 GMT, "Brian Seamens"
 wrote:


>methinks Boltar need to engage brain before typing. 


That's assuming he has one...
Date:Wed, 24 Aug 2005 10:27:54 +0100   Author:  

Re: "Woman loses hand in rail horror" at Stockport   

> I now never run for trains in bad conditions as the dangers are too great.


Good advice. I slipped (in style) once while rushing for a metropolitan
line train.. although it was by no means potentially lethal as I
slipped once ON the train.

I didn't hurt myself, as the pole in the middle was quickly grabbed and
I let myself slide down carefully (but my slippery shoes meant I still
struggled to get up). The most embarrasing thing was the train didn't
go for about a minute after, so everyone else must have thought it was
hillarious - which I guess it was!!

Nevertheless, it's made me realise that it could have been a lot worse
had I slipped somewhere else.
Date:24 Aug 2005 09:20:13 -0700   Author:  

Re: "Woman loses hand in rail horror" at Stockport   

> I didn't hurt myself, as the pole in the middle was quickly grabbed and
> I let myself slide down carefully (but my slippery shoes meant I still
> struggled to get up). The most embarrasing thing was the train didn't
> go for about a minute after, so everyone else must have thought it was
> hillarious - which I guess it was!!
>
> Nevertheless, it's made me realise that it could have been a lot worse
> had I slipped somewhere else.


Maybe passengers should have a safety brief before getting access to
station.
Date:24 Aug 2005 11:58:25 -0700   Author:  

Re: "Woman loses hand in rail horror" at Stockport   
Adrian Chapman wrote:

> If its one thing I have learned over the years, and it was brought home
> by the CTRL2 accident is that you can NEVER trust news reports.


The photo is a good one - could be a bit out of date looking at the
livery in the DMU but the caption says "Stockport Terminal".

I wouldn't call it a terminal station due to all those lines which run
through :o)

pete
Date:24 Aug 2005 14:50:12 -0700   Author:  

Re: "Woman loses hand in rail horror" at Stockport   
In message <deg4vo$jml$1@news.freedom2surf.net>
          "Ian Wallace"  wrote:


> I now never run for trains in bad conditions as the dangers are too great.
> 
> Ian 
> 
> 

Yeah!  You could get shot. :*(

Edward..
Date:Wed, 24 Aug 2005 21:53:59 GMT   Author:  

Re: "Woman loses hand in rail horror" at Stockport   
"Edward"  wrote in message
news:d1c8a59f4d.eddien@freeuk.com...

> In message <deg4vo$jml$1@news.freedom2surf.net>
>           "Ian Wallace"  wrote:
>
> > I now never run for trains in bad conditions as the dangers are too
great.
> >
> > Ian
> >
> >
> Yeah!  You could get shot. :*(
>

Nah, you get shot for walking calmly into a station, using a ticket barrier
properly and sitting quietly on a train.

Nick
Date:Fri, 26 Aug 2005 06:40:31 +0100   Author:  

Re: "Woman loses hand in rail horror" at Stockport   
"Joyce Whitchurch"  wrote in message 
news:430B7ADF.2282C4B5@btinternet.com...

> From the Manchester Evening News at
> <http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/men/news/s/170/170884_woman_loses_hand_in_rail_horror.html>:
>
> ===== begin quote =====
> A WOMAN has lost her hand in a horrific accident at Stockport train
> station.
>
> Witnesses at Platform 2 describe seeing the woman, aged 26, run into the
> 12.25pm Virgin Voyager train to London Euston, which was slowing down as
> it pulled into the station.
>
> The woman banged her head against a carriage before slipping through a
> 1-foot gap between the platform and the vehicle onto the track.
>
> Her arm was thrown outwards as she fell and the train amputated her
> hand, which was so badly damaged doctors were unable to save it.
>
> [Copyright 2005 Manchester Evening News.]
> =====  end quote  =====

>
> I'm even more surprised that there's a 1 foot gap between the platform
> edge and the train (which would presumably be a Pendolino rather than a
> Voyager). I know that platform 2 is a concave curve, but even so...
> Comments from any Stockport regulars?


Perhaps they meant the gap between gangway door and platform, if she fell 
*between* the carriages?

Phil.
Date:Wed, 31 Aug 2005 14:57:15 +0100   Author:  

Re: "Woman loses hand in rail horror" at Stockport   
"Phil O'Sophical"  wrote in message 
news:df4cvv$18i$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...

>
> "Joyce Whitchurch"  wrote in message 
> news:430B7ADF.2282C4B5@btinternet.com...
>> From the Manchester Evening News at
>> <http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/men/news/s/170/170884_woman_loses_hand_in_rail_horror.html>:
>>
>> ===== begin quote =====
>> A WOMAN has lost her hand in a horrific accident at Stockport train
>> station.
>>
>> Witnesses at Platform 2 describe seeing the woman, aged 26, run into the
>> 12.25pm Virgin Voyager train to London Euston, which was slowing down as
>> it pulled into the station.
>>
>> The woman banged her head against a carriage before slipping through a
>> 1-foot gap between the platform and the vehicle onto the track.
>>
>> Her arm was thrown outwards as she fell and the train amputated her
>> hand, which was so badly damaged doctors were unable to save it.
>>
>> [Copyright 2005 Manchester Evening News.]
>> =====  end quote  =====
>
>>
>> I'm even more surprised that there's a 1 foot gap between the platform
>> edge and the train (which would presumably be a Pendolino rather than a
>> Voyager). I know that platform 2 is a concave curve, but even so...
>> Comments from any Stockport regulars?
>
> Perhaps they meant the gap between gangway door and platform, if she fell 
> *between* the carriages?


Maybe the Gap would only fit "One Foot" and a leg.

KW
Date:Wed, 31 Aug 2005 14:33:07 GMT   Author:  

Re: "Woman loses hand in rail horror" at Stockport   
Phil O'Sophical wrote:

> "Joyce Whitchurch"  wrote in message 
> news:430B7ADF.2282C4B5@btinternet.com...

>>I'm even more surprised that there's a 1 foot gap between the platform
>>edge and the train (which would presumably be a Pendolino rather than a
>>Voyager). I know that platform 2 is a concave curve, but even so...
>>Comments from any Stockport regulars?
> 
> 
> Perhaps they meant the gap between gangway door and platform, if she fell 
> *between* the carriages?



I had a look the other day and I can see how someone might go down
there - but it seems amazing it was only her hand she lost. I reckon 
that there's a bigger gap with these new trains - and of course the gap 
on parts of the platform was deliberately increased a few years ago to 
allow for Eurostars.

Charlie
Date:Wed, 31 Aug 2005 16:37:50 +0100   Author: