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Warnham Box Closed   
Warnham Area Signalling Centre closed its doors today, and yet this group, a
load of so call train cranks dont even give it a mention, seeing as its only
been in operation since 1876 i guess its not worthy?

Why do you look go on and on about the up north railway so much and prattle
on about a cheap day return when we are losing a very big peice of railway
history here?

and where the hell are the good ole posters of this group that were lurking
5 years ago, are the good likes of annoyed driver, fat richard, gemma and co
still about?

Yours Janice.
Date:Mon, 22 Aug 2005 22:32:00 GMT   Author:  

Re: Warnham Box Closed   
"Janice"  wrote:


>Warnham Area Signalling Centre closed its doors today, and yet this group, a
>load of so call train cranks dont even give it a mention, seeing as its only
>been in operation since 1876 i guess its not worthy?
>
>Why do you look go on and on about the up north railway so much and prattle
>on about a cheap day return when we are losing a very big peice of railway
>history here?
>
>and where the hell are the good ole posters of this group that were lurking
>5 years ago, are the good likes of annoyed driver, fat richard, gemma and co
>still about?
>
>Yours Janice.



<yawn>
Date:Tue, 23 Aug 2005 00:08:34 +0100   Author:  

Re: Warnham Box Closed   
"Janice"  wrote in message 
news:AnsOe.98176$j83.41586@fe05.news.easynews.com...

> Warnham Area Signalling Centre closed its doors today, and yet this group, 
> a
> load of so call train cranks dont even give it a mention, seeing as its 
> only
> been in operation since 1876 i guess its not worthy?
>
> Why do you look go on and on about the up north railway so much and 
> prattle
> on about a cheap day return when we are losing a very big peice of railway
> history here?
>
> and where the hell are the good ole posters of this group that were 
> lurking
> 5 years ago, are the good likes of annoyed driver, fat richard, gemma and 
> co
> still about?
>
> Yours Janice.



Warnham?  Is that darn sarf?

KW
Date:Mon, 22 Aug 2005 23:40:40 GMT   Author:  

Re: Warnham Box Closed   
D7666 wrote:

> GMac wrote:
> 
> 
>>Yep - on the Dorking to Horsham line (last intermediate station before
>>the latter).  It has some historical significance as the level crossing
>>there was one of the last surviving manually worked (i.e. gates with
>>wheel)
> 
> 
> I used Warnham station a couple of months ago in just about the last
> week you could do a 4Cig for 4Cig move there just before 15:33 VA
> Horsham via Dorking went over to 377.
> 
> The level crossing was not in use and clearly had not been in use for
> some time by the amount of debris on the road,  semi-permanent nature
> of the road diversionary signs, and both sides the road was being used
> for car parking.
> 
> Now this may have been one protracted stage of the re-signalling
> project, I don't know, and it may not have impacted on whether or not
> those gets were operable as opposed to being used, but in use they were
> not.
> 
> The box itself also leans at quite an angle, away from the line, and
> has supporting timbers to hold it.
> 


It should probably have been called Warnham Parkway (or maybe Station 
Road Station) as it was a far old walk home when I lived opposite the 
Greets in Warnham.

Before they built the bypass, I remember the LC being a PITA from a 
drivers POV as they shut the gates before southbound trains arrived, so 
you got to wait not only for the train, but also the platform time !

I rarely used the station though, it was quicker to drive up to Gatwick, 
park in the short-stay and get the GatEx (when I wasn't paying :-)
Date:Tue, 23 Aug 2005 19:12:50 +0000 (UTC)   Author:  

Re: Warnham Box Closed   
D7666 wrote:


> I used Warnham station a couple of months ago in just about the last
> week you could do a 4Cig for 4Cig move there just before 15:33 VA
> Horsham via Dorking went over to 377.
>
> The level crossing was not in use and clearly had not been in use for
> some time by the amount of debris on the road,  semi-permanent nature
> of the road diversionary signs, and both sides the road was being used
> for car parking.
>
> Now this may have been one protracted stage of the re-signalling
> project, I don't know, and it may not have impacted on whether or not
> those gets were operable as opposed to being used, but in use they were
> not.
>
> The box itself also leans at quite an angle, away from the line, and
> has supporting timbers to hold it.


If I remember rightly, the crossing was closed to road traffic sometime
in 2003 (it was mentioned in one of the rail magazines I read, and was
also noted at the Signal Box website), but the gates were still
connected and operable right up to the end.  As a result the number of
surviving manual gated crossings in the South East must be very small
indeed now - given that nearby Littlehaven was converted to barrier
operation as part of the same Horsham scheme Peter mentioned, I can
only think of one - Plumpton, on the Wivelsfield to Lewes line.  Most
of the others are located in the LNE zone (i.e the North & North East
of England) along with a single example in Scotland (Holywood, north of
Dumfries on the Carlisle - KIlmarnock - Glasgow line).
Date:23 Aug 2005 12:16:53 -0700   Author:  

Re: Warnham Box Closed   
On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 22:32:00 GMT, "Janice"  wrote:


>Warnham Area Signalling Centre closed its doors today, and yet this group, a
>load of so call train cranks dont even give it a mention, seeing as its only
>been in operation since 1876 i guess its not worthy?
>
>Why do you look go on and on about the up north railway so much and prattle
>on about a cheap day return when we are losing a very big peice of railway
>history here?
>
>and where the hell are the good ole posters of this group that were lurking
>5 years ago, are the good likes of annoyed driver, fat richard, gemma and co
>still about?
>
>Yours Janice.
>

Anyone got any pics of the box? What was the safeworking? DLB?

Les Brown
Date:Wed, 24 Aug 2005 15:11:33 GMT   Author:  

Re: Warnham Box Closed   
Yes and brush up your spelling for God's sake! Uh-oh... I spot a
troll... or, perhaps more charitably, a joker. Consider:  provocative
elements eg deliberately eccentric spelling, syntax etc, gratuitous
insults ("a load of so call train cranks"), ethnic/regional
provovations ("up north railway"), controversy ("where the hell are the
good ole posters of this group that were lurking 5 years ago"),
reference to cliques ("annoyed driver, fat richard, gemma and co "),
gross imbecility (what is a "so call" train crank?) A so-called train
crank still does not make sense, since "so-called" is properly used to
call attention to an (in the opinion of the writer) undeserved
honorific, eg a "so-called stationmaster" would be one undeserving of
the title (ie because he can't run his station properly), and "crank"
is hardly honorific. All in all, a post deliberately made to provoke a
response, which, er,  I, er, have just provided...
Date:24 Aug 2005 10:22:14 -0700   Author:  

Re: Warnham Box Closed   
Janice wrote:


> Why do you look go on and on about the up north railway so much 


Ah, well, you see - northerners are more computer-literate -
after all, we invented the computer here.

;-)

Charlie
Date:Wed, 24 Aug 2005 17:53:25 GMT   Author:  

Re: Warnham Box Closed   
Charlie Hulme wrote:


> Ah, well, you see - northerners are more computer-literate -
> after all, we invented the computer here.



Cambridge, where Charles Babbage originated the concepts c.1812, was
not in the north last time I looked.


--
Nick
Date:24 Aug 2005 11:04:39 -0700   Author:  

Re: Warnham Box Closed   
"D7666"  wrote in message 
news:1124906679.568468.293830@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

>
> Charlie Hulme wrote:
>
>> Ah, well, you see - northerners are more computer-literate -
>> after all, we invented the computer here.
>
>
> Cambridge, where Charles Babbage originated the concepts c.1812, was
> not in the north last time I looked.
>
>
> --
> Nick
>

need to check the latest route video for re-signalling of Horsham. Warnham 
retained as R/G crossing.
Date:Wed, 24 Aug 2005 19:07:22 +0100   Author:  

Re: Warnham Box Closed   
D7666 wrote:


> Charlie Hulme wrote:
> 
> 
>>Ah, well, you see - northerners are more computer-literate -
>>after all, we invented the computer here.
>  
> Cambridge, where Charles Babbage originated the concepts c.1812, was
> not in the north last time I looked.


Oh yes, and the concept of the steam turbine was invented by an ancient 
Greek bloke. How many steamships did ancient Greece build?

;-)

Charlie
Date:Wed, 24 Aug 2005 18:09:02 GMT   Author:  

Re: Warnham Box Closed   
The message 
from "D7666"  contains these words:

> Charlie Hulme wrote:

> > Ah, well, you see - northerners are more computer-literate -
> > after all, we invented the computer here.

> Cambridge, where Charles Babbage originated the concepts c.1812, was
> not in the north last time I looked.


Just put it down to Continental Drift. It used to be in the North.

-- 
Dave,                                     
Frodsham
Date:Wed, 24 Aug 2005 19:51:45 +0100   Author:  

Re: Warnham Box Closed   
Only one in the NE I am now aware of is Haydon Bridge, on the Newcastle
- Carlisle line. Picton, south of Eaglescliffe, became barriers some
years ago. East Boldon was an unusual example of wheel-worked barriers.
IIRC, Hunmanby on the Hull - Scarborough line had a wheel but that's
also gone. I am also sure that most of the examples on the York -
Scarborough line are now no more (Barton Hill, Howsham and
Weaverthorpe).
Date:24 Aug 2005 13:27:55 -0700   Author:  

Re: Warnham Box Closed   
Charlie Hulme wrote:


> Oh yes, and the concept of the steam turbine was invented by an ancient
> Greek bloke. How many steamships did ancient Greece build?



:o)


Agreed.


But then one could go back to the abacus. Pretty sure that weren't
invented in northern England either.


--
Nick
Date:24 Aug 2005 13:48:44 -0700   Author:  

Re: Warnham Box Closed   
Had the origial poster announced the fact of the boxes closure rather
than slagging of all and sundry (s)he may have had a more sympathetic
hearing.

Janice, Please try again, we're a tolerant lot here.
Date:23 Aug 2005 04:30:40 -0700   Author:  

Re: Warnham Box Closed   
billetelic_ferroequinologist@hotmail.com wrote:


> Only one in the NE I am now aware of is Haydon Bridge, on the Newcastle
> - Carlisle line. Picton, south of Eaglescliffe, became barriers some
> years ago. East Boldon was an unusual example of wheel-worked barriers.
> IIRC, Hunmanby on the Hull - Scarborough line had a wheel but that's
> also gone. I am also sure that most of the examples on the York -
> Scarborough line are now no more (Barton Hill, Howsham and
> Weaverthorpe).


Haydon Bridge is definitely still in-situ, along with a few survivors
in Lincolnshire (Oxmarsh, Goxhill and possibly Ulceby on the Barton
branch, plus Roxton & Stallingbrough on the main line to Grimsby and a
couple on the Joint line between Lincoln & Sleaford).  Not sure if any
remain on the York to Scarborough line now (Kirkham Abbey possibly), as
most (as you mention) have been fully automated or converted to barrier
operation from the adjacent box.  There are still quite a few with hand
worked gates scattered around the country though.
Date:25 Aug 2005 02:03:37 -0700   Author:  

Re: Warnham Box Closed   
Ken Ward wrote:


> Warnham?  Is that darn sarf?
>
> KW


Yep - on the Dorking to Horsham line (last intermediate station before
the latter).  It has some historical significance as the level crossing
there was one of the last surviving manually worked (i.e. gates with
wheel) examples left in the area (if not the UK - there are maybe 20 or
so left now?), whilst the box itself was also quite old (if 1876 is the
right date, then there are only a couple left that are older still in
use on Network Rail).  It was due to go a couple of years ago when the
Horsham area was resignalled, but the last I heard the plan to use the
Swedish Ebilock system for the new interlocking there (to bring it into
Three Bridges PSB area) had been abandoned - presumably the revised
scheme with conventional SSI must now be going ahead.
Date:23 Aug 2005 03:33:13 -0700   Author:  

Re: Warnham Box Closed   
On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 22:32:00 GMT, "Janice"  wrote:


>Warnham Area Signalling Centre closed its doors today, and yet this group, a
>load of so call train cranks dont even give it a mention, seeing as its only
>been in operation since 1876 i guess its not worthy?
>

Did you give it a mention, other than this rant?
Date:Tue, 23 Aug 2005 09:13:51 +0100   Author:  

Re: Warnham Box Closed   
Gary

Commissioning of Horsham area (fringes are Billingshurst and Dorking Boxes) 
with conventional SSI this weekend.  Controlled from new Panel 7 at Three 
Bridges

Peter

-- 
Peter Corser
Linslade, Beds, UK 



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Date:Tue, 23 Aug 2005 14:24:52 +0100   Author:  

Re: Warnham Box Closed   
GMac wrote:


> Yep - on the Dorking to Horsham line (last intermediate station before
> the latter).  It has some historical significance as the level crossing
> there was one of the last surviving manually worked (i.e. gates with
> wheel)


I used Warnham station a couple of months ago in just about the last
week you could do a 4Cig for 4Cig move there just before 15:33 VA
Horsham via Dorking went over to 377.

The level crossing was not in use and clearly had not been in use for
some time by the amount of debris on the road,  semi-permanent nature
of the road diversionary signs, and both sides the road was being used
for car parking.

Now this may have been one protracted stage of the re-signalling
project, I don't know, and it may not have impacted on whether or not
those gets were operable as opposed to being used, but in use they were
not.

The box itself also leans at quite an angle, away from the line, and
has supporting timbers to hold it.

--
Nick
Date:23 Aug 2005 07:22:44 -0700   Author:  

Re: Warnham Box Closed   

> Ah, well, you see - northerners are more computer-literate -
> after all, we invented the computer here.


Don't forget Alan Turin, SPC, Cracking Enigma, Bletchley Park and all
that?
Date:31 Aug 2005 03:51:01 -0700   Author: