OK, as a reasonably intelligent chap & someone from Merseyside I must
stress & swear that I saw mention of this article as an ad while
reading this ng via google groups!

It says of pubgoing women, 36% drink wine, but only 14% drink lager, I
wonder how many drink any ale (incl nitrokeg & keg stout), and how many
RA?

Anyway, on the website it appeared next to a glass of red wine, I think
they may have somehow missed the pint.

from http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005110468,00.html

here it is
________________________________________________________________________
Pint for me, third for her
By CHARLES RAE Consumer Editor
FORGET pints and halves, women drinkers will soon be served a "quick
third" of beer ... in a wine glass.

The new small measure is being introduced to make lager and bitter more
attractive to female pub-goers.

And it will be sipped from wine-style glasses for a more sophisticated
look.

Brewers and pub bosses are fighting back against wine, which has
overtaken beer as the nation's favourite tipple.

The industry hopes that by winning over women it can shed the macho
image of lager louts and bearded real ale buffs.

A campaign called Beautiful Beer will be launched this year by top
brewers and the British Beer & Pub Association - which includes
two-thirds of boozers.

Figures show 36 per cent of women in pubs drink wine but only 14 per
cent have lager.

This is partly due to the "Bridget Jones effect" - independent
women who drink wine on girls' nights out or at the end of a hard
working day. Many also opt for wine with meals.
Campaign chairman Peter Kendall said it aims to promote beer in new
ways.

He added: "There is an opportunity to promote beer's health
benefits, natural ingredients and drinking it with food."
_______________________________________________________________________

MikeMcG  wrote:

> FORGET pints and halves, women drinkers will soon be served a "quick
> third" of beer ... in a wine glass.
>
> The new small measure is being introduced to make lager and bitter
> more attractive to female pub-goers.
>
> And it will be sipped from wine-style glasses for a more sophisticated
> look.


I thought many women felt patronised when presented with "ladies' glasses".

You do still hear it from time to time, though, "and is the half pint for a 
lay-dee, Sir?"

Perhaps I should take Emily Howard from "Little Britain" out from a drink - 
I'm sure she/he would demand a lady's glass ;-)

-- 
http://www.stockportpubs.org.uk
"If a river bridge were not guarded by a parapet, the slackness of the
defaulting authority deserves the blame, not the people who fall in" -
Lieut. Col. Mervyn O'Gorman.

I this perhaps the real reason for the new Fullers ESB glasses? at least 
they're a pint!  I know quite a few "lay-dees" who like to drink the belgian 
beers just cause they come in a pretty glass.

Personally I'm most inspired by Peter Kays character Brian Potter (in 
Phoenix Nights) who drinks out of a flower vase...

Rob

In article <d0k66c$4mb$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>,
   PeterE  wrote:

> MikeMcG  wrote:
> > FORGET pints and halves, women drinkers will soon be served a "quick
> > third" of beer ... in a wine glass.
> >
> > The new small measure is being introduced to make lager and bitter
> > more attractive to female pub-goers.
> >
> > And it will be sipped from wine-style glasses for a more sophisticated
> > look.

> I thought many women felt patronised when presented with "ladies'
> glasses".


Well yes I do - but on most occasions I would love a smaller measure than
just a half pint, and have moaned about it for years. At last! someone is
catering for ladies as opposed to ladettes!

> You do still hear it from time to time, though, "and is the half pint
> for a lay-dee, Sir?"


And my reply is usually "I'll have it in a bucket if that's how it
comes..."

-- 
Christine Ramsbottom

Christine wrote:

>
> Well yes I do - but on most occasions I would love a smaller measure
than
> just a half pint, and have moaned about it for years. At last!
someone is
> catering for ladies as opposed to ladettes!
> > You do still hear it from time to time, though, "and is the half
pint
> > for a lay-dee, Sir?"


Funny... this is one of those 'strolls down amnesia lane' for me. I
was living and working in the East End as a young engineer, and after
months...had the wherewithal to go for drinks with a colleague from the
office, a really nice woman from Yorkshire.

We went to a busy pub near her home, so I ordered two pints of whatever
ale it was and I still remember that look of embarrassment as I
returned with  two pints. Kate laughed and chastised me as a silly
American for bringing her back such a large volume of beer. I returned
for a half...and had  a second, warmer pint myself! Just one of those
cultural nuances that I missed (one of many) but when I realized it, it
was almost a "Eureka!' moment for me.

For what it is worth, I think every effort to bring beer to a place in
the mind as an equal and alternative to wine...is terrific. British
women obviously have bought into wine being 'their drink'. Belgian
women prove the point as do the men, that unique glasses not only
present unique brews nicely, but it seems to help beer maintain a
status as special as wine. For a lager, I think the classic fluted
glass for pils or a "stange" (0.2 l) for Koeslch is beautiful, and
there is a nice visual of a stange-styled/influenced glass of the size
of approx 1/3 pint at:

http://www.trumer-international.com/site.html

I'm all for this 1/3 pint movement (where can I vote?), and hope the
breweries step up and provide appropriate glassware to make either a
lager or real ale an exciting alternative to a glass of imported
Chilean red or Australian Chardonnay.

In message , Christine 
 writes


>> You do still hear it from time to time, though, "and is the half pint
>> for a lay-dee, Sir?"
>
>And my reply is usually "I'll have it in a bucket if that's how it
>comes..."
>


Arriving thirsty at a pub on the Isle of Wight I asked if they'd got any 
quart glasses.  The barman looked surprised, said "Yes, I think we 
have!" and found me one.

When the lads saw mine they all wanted one, but there were only six.

-- 
Sue  ];(:)

On 9 Mar 2005 03:01:41 -0800, Jaime wrote:


> Christine wrote:
>>
>> Well yes I do - but on most occasions I would love a smaller measure
> than
>> just a half pint, and have moaned about it for years. At last!
> someone is
>> catering for ladies as opposed to ladettes!
>>> You do still hear it from time to time, though, "and is the half
> pint
>>> for a lay-dee, Sir?"
> 
> Funny... this is one of those 'strolls down amnesia lane' for me. I
> was living and working in the East End as a young engineer, and after
> months...had the wherewithal to go for drinks with a colleague from the
> office, a really nice woman from Yorkshire.
> 
> We went to a busy pub near her home, so I ordered two pints of whatever
> ale it was and I still remember that look of embarrassment as I
> returned with  two pints. Kate laughed and chastised me as a silly
> American for bringing her back such a large volume of beer. 



I don't think you had any reason to be embarrassed there.  Unless a woman
(or anyone) specifies a half, I think most English people would assume that
a drink of ale is a pint.  Especially if she's from Yorkshire! :)


> 
> For what it is worth, I think every effort to bring beer to a place in
> the mind as an equal and alternative to wine...is terrific. British
> women obviously have bought into wine being 'their drink'. Belgian
> women prove the point as do the men, that unique glasses not only
> present unique brews nicely, but it seems to help beer maintain a
> status as special as wine. For a lager, I think the classic fluted
> glass for pils or a "stange" (0.2 l) for Koeslch is beautiful, and
> there is a nice visual of a stange-styled/influenced glass of the size
> of approx 1/3 pint at:
> 


When we went to Belgium last week it was really nice to see a) all the
different glasses and b) so many women of all ages drinking beer.  And of
course, it's usually a choice between 25 and 37.5 cl over there.

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On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 19:56:38 +0000, Sue wrote:


> 
> Arriving thirsty at a pub on the Isle of Wight I asked if they'd got any 
> quart glasses.  The barman looked surprised, said "Yes, I think we 
> have!" and found me one.
> 


Are you married yet?  Can I send you my number? :)

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>When we went to Belgium last week [...] it's usually a choice between 25 and 37.5 cl over there.
>

On draught, it's usually either 25cl or 30cl.
Bottles are usually 25 cl, 33 cl (both crown-capped), 35,5 cl and 75 cl 
(those two for corked ones) in Belgium. Half-litres are a comparatively 
rare thing, whereas it's pretty much the standard in Germany, for instance.

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