It seems that a new set of railway byelaws came into effect early in July,
and all previous byelaws were revoked. There certainly seems to have been an
attempt to write them in (reasonably) plain English. I don't recall any
previous reference to or comment on them here. They can be found at
http://www.sra.gov.uk/pubs2/industry/
Click on 'Railway Byelaws' (7 july 2005)

Peter

Peter Masson  wrote in message
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> It seems that a new set of railway byelaws came into effect early in July,
> and all previous byelaws were revoked. There certainly seems to have been
an
> attempt to write them in (reasonably) plain English. I don't recall any
> previous reference to or comment on them here. They can be found at
> http://www.sra.gov.uk/pubs2/industry/
> Click on 'Railway Byelaws' (7 july 2005)
>
> Peter
>
>

Anybody actually managed to open this page?

"Tim Christian"  wrote in message
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> > http://www.sra.gov.uk/pubs2/industry/
> > Click on 'Railway Byelaws' (7 july 2005)
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> Anybody actually managed to open this page?


Yes, and I downloaded the byelaws, but that was last night.

Roger

In article <4305ea6f$0$97111$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net>,
Tim Christian  wrote:

>
>Peter Masson  wrote in message
>news:de2vo0$kd1$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>> It seems that a new set of railway byelaws came into effect early in July,
>> and all previous byelaws were revoked. There certainly seems to have been
>an
>> attempt to write them in (reasonably) plain English. I don't recall any
>> previous reference to or comment on them here. They can be found at
>> http://www.sra.gov.uk/pubs2/industry/
>> Click on 'Railway Byelaws' (7 july 2005)
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>Anybody actually managed to open this page?


The page, unfortunately, is broken insofar as it doesn't have a
valid %pdf flag at the beginning.


-- 
Andy Breen ~ 	Not speaking on behalf of the University of Wales, Aberystwyth
		Feng Shui: an ancient oriental art for extracting
		 money from the gullible (Martin Sinclair)

On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 15:17:43 +0100, "Tim Christian"
 wrote:


>
>Peter Masson  wrote in message
>news:de2vo0$kd1$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>> It seems that a new set of railway byelaws came into effect early in July,
>> and all previous byelaws were revoked. There certainly seems to have been
>an
>> attempt to write them in (reasonably) plain English. I don't recall any
>> previous reference to or comment on them here. They can be found at
>> http://www.sra.gov.uk/pubs2/industry/
>> Click on 'Railway Byelaws' (7 july 2005)
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>Anybody actually managed to open this page?
>

Try http://www.sra.gov.uk/pubs2/indy_general/byelaws/byelaws_705

Nigel

In message <de4r2m$9dek$1@central.aber.ac.uk>, Andrew Robert Breen 
 writes

>In article <4305ea6f$0$97111$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net>,
>Tim Christian  wrote:
>>
>>Peter Masson  wrote in message
>>news:de2vo0$kd1$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>>> It seems that a new set of railway byelaws came into effect early in July,
>>> and all previous byelaws were revoked. There certainly seems to have been
>>an
>>> attempt to write them in (reasonably) plain English. I don't recall any
>>> previous reference to or comment on them here. They can be found at
>>> http://www.sra.gov.uk/pubs2/industry/
>>> Click on 'Railway Byelaws' (7 july 2005)
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>
>>Anybody actually managed to open this page?
>
>The page, unfortunately, is broken insofar as it doesn't have a
>valid %pdf flag at the beginning.
>

Right click on the link and do a 'save as' , save the file with a .pdf 
extension, then open from your hard disk. It worked for me
-- 
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Address is valid, but messages are treated as junk. Replace the bit before the
@ with 'daniel' to get through. The opinions expressed in this post do not
necessarily reflect those of the educational institution from which I post.

"Nigel"  wrote in message
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> Try http://www.sra.gov.uk/pubs2/indy_general/byelaws/byelaws_705


That works now, but an hour or so ago it didn't.  I tried it and other SRA
URLs which were in my history list from yesterday and there seemed to be a
problem on all of them. Perhaps this item or some other is just too popular?

Roger

In article <4305ea6f$0$97111$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net>,
   Tim Christian  wrote:

> They can be found at
> > http://www.sra.gov.uk/pubs2/industry/
> > Click on 'Railway Byelaws' (7 july 2005)
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> Anybody actually managed to open this page?

I did, but it took a long time to open.

-- 
David Wild using RISC OS on broadband

"Roger H. Bennett"  wrote in message 
news:O5mNe.13217$JB4.6194@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...

> "Tim Christian"  wrote in message
> news:4305ea6f$0$97111$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net...
>> > http://www.sra.gov.uk/pubs2/industry/
>> > Click on 'Railway Byelaws' (7 july 2005)
>> >
>> > Peter
>> >
>> >
>> Anybody actually managed to open this page?
>
> Yes, and I downloaded the byelaws, but that was last night.


Yes at 17:40.
KW

On Fri, 19 Aug 2005, Roger H. Bennett wrote:


> "Nigel"  wrote in message
> news:7bsbg1h585b5tt9pnuov4f3luqh1n5s3pr@4ax.com...
> > Try http://www.sra.gov.uk/pubs2/indy_general/byelaws/byelaws_705
> 
> That works now, 


I just tried it for the first time, moments before composing this
reply, and the browser threw up an alert, "File does not begin with 
'%PDF-'.", pretty much as others have reported.

(What follows is predicated on using Windows as OS, and a 
web-compatible browser, in this case Mozilla.)

Presumably the workaround that was already mentioned will be OK... 
(yes, so it is - download the item instead of trying to browse it; 
save the downloaded item in a file with a PDF extension, and open that 
file directly in Adobe Reader).


> Perhaps this item or some other is just too popular?


There's surely something amiss with it, at any rate as returned to a 
web-compatible browser.  I suspect they might have tested it only with 
a proprietary operating system component that thinks it's a browser, 
but which deliberately violates several mandatory requirements of the 
WWW interworking requirements.  You know the one that I mean.


Oh, bleagh: an attempt to investigate the server headers using a 
convenient utility returned this:


HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 16:45:38 GMT
Server: Zope/(Zope 2.7.3-0, python 2.3.4, linux2) ZServer/1.1 Plone/2.0.4
Last-Modified: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 08:30:40 GMT
Accept-Ranges: none
Content-Type: application/octet-stream
Set-Cookie: _ZopeId="38835743A19uTaNJbKo"; Path=/
Vary: Accept-Encoding,User-Agent
Connection: close


It seems that not only is it being negotiated on "User-Agent" (BURN 
THE WITCH!!!), but it's being advertised to that particular client 
agent as a content type of "unspecified lump of binary stuff".  But 
it's evidently meant to be application/pdf.  Another case of an 
information provider being just clever enough to be dangerous, but not 
clever enough to be useful, I'd say.

David H Wild  wrote in message
news:4d9cf20f3bdhwild@talktalk.net...

> In article <4305ea6f$0$97111$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net>,
>    Tim Christian  wrote:
> > They can be found at
> > > http://www.sra.gov.uk/pubs2/industry/
> > > Click on 'Railway Byelaws' (7 july 2005)
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> > >
> > Anybody actually managed to open this page?
> I did, but it took a long time to open.
>
> --
> David Wild using RISC OS on broadband


Obviously yet another example of the effectiveness of Govt procurement
procedures in IT!

In article ,
Alan J. Flavell  wrote:

>On Fri, 19 Aug 2005, Roger H. Bennett wrote:
>
>> "Nigel"  wrote in message
>> news:7bsbg1h585b5tt9pnuov4f3luqh1n5s3pr@4ax.com...
>> > Try http://www.sra.gov.uk/pubs2/indy_general/byelaws/byelaws_705
>> 
>> That works now, 
>
>I just tried it for the first time, moments before composing this
>reply, and the browser threw up an alert, "File does not begin with 
>'%PDF-'.", pretty much as others have reported.
>
>(What follows is predicated on using Windows as OS, and a 
>web-compatible browser, in this case Mozilla.)


'taint that platform-dependent. I got that result using SUSE
9.3 as OS, Opera 8.02 as browser and kghostview as pdf-handler.


>Presumably the workaround that was already mentioned will be OK... 
>(yes, so it is - download the item instead of trying to browse it; 
>save the downloaded item in a file with a PDF extension, and open that 
>file directly in Adobe Reader).


Adobe does seem to cope with it once downloaded, but all that tells
us is that Adobe Reader doesn't follow the PDF standard. Quelle
surprise.


>HTTP/1.1 200 OK
>Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 16:45:38 GMT
>Server: Zope/(Zope 2.7.3-0, python 2.3.4, linux2) ZServer/1.1 Plone/2.0.4
>Last-Modified: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 08:30:40 GMT
>Accept-Ranges: none
>Content-Type: application/octet-stream
>Set-Cookie: _ZopeId="38835743A19uTaNJbKo"; Path=/
>Vary: Accept-Encoding,User-Agent
>Connection: close
>
>
>It seems that not only is it being negotiated on "User-Agent" (BURN 
>THE WITCH!!!), but it's being advertised to that particular client 
>agent as a content type of "unspecified lump of binary stuff".  But 
>it's evidently meant to be application/pdf.  Another case of an 
>information provider being just clever enough to be dangerous, but not 
>clever enough to be useful, I'd say.


The horror, the horror....

-- 
Andy Breen ~ 	Not speaking on behalf of the University of Wales, Aberystwyth
		
		"Who dies with the most toys wins" (Gary Barnes)