CCTV footage of an idiot playing chicken with a Voyager as it passes 
through Fitzwilliam station on 14 July is being shown at the moment on 
the ITV News Channel.

He leaps out of the way a couple of seconds before the train goes through.

The report says he got caught, fined and put on probation.

Upon the miasma of midnight, a darkling spirit identified as Mark Morton
 gently breathed:

>CCTV footage of an idiot playing chicken with a Voyager as it passes
>through Fitzwilliam station on 14 July is being shown at the moment on
>the ITV News Channel.
>
>He leaps out of the way a couple of seconds before the train goes through.
>
>The report says he got caught, fined and put on probation.


I saw that on News24 some time after midnight.  Utterly, utterly
unbelievable.

My sympathies to the driver, and anyone else inconvenienced / injured by
the extreme emergency stop.  Voyagers clearly have impressive brakes, it
stopped within it's own length.

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On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 03:37:18 +0100, Pyromancer
 wrote:


>Upon the miasma of midnight, a darkling spirit identified as Mark Morton
> gently breathed:
>>CCTV footage of an idiot playing chicken with a Voyager as it passes
>>through Fitzwilliam station on 14 July is being shown at the moment on
>>the ITV News Channel.
>>
>>He leaps out of the way a couple of seconds before the train goes through.
>>
>>The report says he got caught, fined and put on probation.
>
>I saw that on News24 some time after midnight.  Utterly, utterly
>unbelievable.
>
>My sympathies to the driver, and anyone else inconvenienced / injured by
>the extreme emergency stop.  Voyagers clearly have impressive brakes, it
>stopped within it's own length.


I was on a late evening stopper a couple of years ago, heading for
Leeds. When we got to Fitzwilliam, the guard came along to check that
I wasn't getting off there. It appears someone had been knifed to
death on the station a few evenings previously.

The stretch of line from there to South Kirby Junction is a bit of a
stone throwers' alley, too.  Not a nice area at all.



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Pyromancer wrote:

> Upon the miasma of midnight, a darkling spirit identified as Mark Morton
>  gently breathed:
> >CCTV footage of an idiot playing chicken with a Voyager

> Voyagers clearly have impressive brakes, it
> stopped within it's own length.
>


How much damage would this youth have caused?

Presumably, an emergency stop will cause some wheel flats (unless
braking systems prevent that nowadays), and possibly damage to the
track.

Given the delay caused by the emergency stop was not the TOC's fault,
they wouldn't suffer financial damage as a result of the delay? Or
would they?

If someone were injured on the train, or property damaged as a result
of the unexpected emergency stop, would the youth be liable?  I would
expect the answer to this to be 'yes', but I don't actually know.

I hope the train driver is OK.

Regards,

Sid

The youth had obviously been taking lessons from the "little darlings"
at Lea Hall.

Another candidate for a Dawin Award.

So now drivers will regularly need to carry spare underwear.

On 19 Aug 2005 04:21:18 -0700 someone who may be unopened@mail.com
wrote this:-


>How much damage would this youth have caused?
>
>Presumably, an emergency stop will cause some wheel flats (unless
>braking systems prevent that nowadays), and possibly damage to the
>track.


The alternative would seem to be not bothering to use the
"impressive brakes". That would cause people the very unpleasant
task of cleaning out the coupling pocket [1]. There is also the
question of "crime scenes" and all that stuff causing even more
delays.


[1] I am told that 22xs are coupled so often that it is not worth
fitting a cover over the pocket, as is done with the 390s.



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> On 19 Aug 2005 04:21:18 -0700 someone who may be unopened@mail.com
> wrote this:-
>
>>How much damage would this youth have caused?
>>
>>Presumably, an emergency stop will cause some wheel flats (unless
>>braking systems prevent that nowadays), and possibly damage to the
>>track.
>
> The alternative would seem to be not bothering to use the
> "impressive brakes".


Maybe the units working that stretch should be fitted with nitrous and a 
US-style cow catcher. Should only take a few weeks...

DERWENT Re: Footage of Idiot at Fitzwilliam Station on ITV News
Channel
 Sat, 20 Aug 2005 12:33:49 +0100, "Dave"  


>
>Maybe the units working that stretch should be fitted with nitrous and a 
>US-style cow catcher. Should only take a few weeks... 
>


Does nitrous actually work with diesel engines?

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> DERWENT Re: Footage of Idiot at Fitzwilliam Station on ITV News
> Channel
> Sat, 20 Aug 2005 12:33:49 +0100, "Dave" 
>
>>
>>Maybe the units working that stretch should be fitted with nitrous and a
>>US-style cow catcher. Should only take a few weeks...
>>
>
> Does nitrous actually work with diesel engines?


According to a TV programme I saw within the last twelve months, Yes, in 
fact a diesel engine is so stongly built that it copes without problems.

KW

>Maybe the units working that stretch should be fitted with nitrous and a
>US-style cow catcher. Should only take a few weeks...


In North America, our locos don't have a "US-style cow catcher" they are
equipped with "pilots".

While Joe Public may call them "cow-catchers" but all railroaders refer to
them as "pilots".:-)


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Upon the miasma of midnight, a darkling spirit identified as Roger T. 
 gently breathed:

>>Maybe the units working that stretch should be fitted with nitrous and a
>>US-style cow catcher. Should only take a few weeks...
>
>In North America, our locos don't have a "US-style cow catcher" they are
>equipped with "pilots".
>
>While Joe Public may call them "cow-catchers" but all railroaders refer to
>them as "pilots".:-)


However that usage would cause confusion here.  A "pilot" is the leading 
locomotive when a train is being double-headed, and while double heading 
is far less common than it once was, it still happens on a semi-regular 
basis, for example usually when the SRPS take their 10 coach Mk1 
formation (350 tons or more) up the Highland Main Line and on to Kyle, 
it's double headed by a pair of 37s.  It can be done by a single loco, 
but that tends to result in truly insane quantities of thrash and smoke 
pouring from the motor bogies, which is not usually a good thing. :-)

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"Pyromancer" <>>While Joe Public may call them "cow-catchers" but all
railroaders refer to

>>them as "pilots".:-)
>
> However that usage would cause confusion here.  A "pilot" is the leading
> locomotive when a train is being double-headed, and while double heading
> is far less common than it once was, it still happens on a semi-regular
> basis, for example usually when the SRPS take their 10 coach Mk1 formation
> (350 tons or more) up the Highland Main Line and on to Kyle, it's double
> headed by a pair of 37s.


"Double Heading" in North America means two locos each with a crew on board.

"Double Heading" went out with steam, now they are "mued".  In North
America, we probably wouldn't even make mention of the fact that two, or
more, locos are on the head end as it's so common.  All those locos on the
point are just the "locomotive consist" or "the power" or various other
nicknames.  If it were two different classes of locos, fans may call it a
"lash-up" but definitely not "double headed."

In fact, to paraphrase the rules, "A locomotive is one or more locomotives
coupled together under the control on one person."


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"Pyromancer" <>>While Joe Public may call them "cow-catchers" but all
railroaders refer to

>>them as "pilots".:-)
>
> However that usage would cause confusion here.  A "pilot" is the leading
> locomotive when a train is being double-headed, and while double heading
> is far less common than it once was, it still happens on a semi-regular
> basis, for example usually when the SRPS take their 10 coach Mk1 formation
> (350 tons or more) up the Highland Main Line and on to Kyle, it's double
> headed by a pair of 37s.


"Double Heading" in North America means two locos each with a crew on board.

"Double Heading" went out with steam, now they are "mued".  In North
America, we probably wouldn't even make mention of the fact that two, or
more, locos are on the head end as it's so common.  All those locos on the
point are just the "locomotive consist" or "the power" or various other
nicknames.  If it were two different classes of locos, fans may call it a
"lash-up" but definitely not "double headed."

In fact, to paraphrase the rules, "A locomotive is one or more locomotives
coupled together under the control on one person."


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Cheers
Roger T.

Home of the Great Eastern Railway
http://www.highspeedplus.com/~rogertra/