Is there a good UK lager style beer that anyone would recommend (i.e. not 
merely mass produced chemical fizz)? Preferably something that is 
readily/easily available and something with a 4 to 5% alcohol content.

Gareth.

"Gareth"  wrote in message
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> Is there a good UK lager style beer that anyone would recommend (i.e. not
> merely mass produced chemical fizz)? Preferably something that is
> readily/easily available and something with a 4 to 5% alcohol content.


If you want to drink a lager style beer you would be better off drinking 
something imported such as Budweiser Budvar or various German brews.

For something brewed in the UK, try the Sainsbury's Taste the Difference 
Oktoberfest Beer:

http://www.bottledbeer.co.uk/index.html?beerid=2688

Cain's of Liverpool have recently introduced a cask lager but you'll 
probably only find that in specialist beer pubs.

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defaulting authority deserves the blame, not the people who fall in" -
Lieut. Col. Mervyn O'Gorman.

Gareth wrote:

> Is there a good UK lager style beer that anyone would recommend (i.e.
> not merely mass produced chemical fizz)? Preferably something that is
> readily/easily available and something with a 4 to 5% alcohol content.
>
> Gareth.


Harviestoun Schiehallion is worth looking out for. In addition try some of 
the golden ales that are popular at the moment.

-- 

Brett

Brett... wrote:

> Gareth wrote:

> In addition try some of the golden ales that are popular at the moment.


Agreed - I have had a few pints of Moorhouse's Blonde Witch recently and 
when served nice and cool on a warm summer's evening it is a fabulous 
light refreshing pint.

--
JohnB

PeterE a crit :


>"Gareth"  wrote in message
>news:430232ca$0$1287$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net
>  
>
>>Is there a good UK lager style beer that anyone would recommend (i.e. not
>>merely mass produced chemical fizz)? Preferably something that is
>>readily/easily available and something with a 4 to 5% alcohol content.
>>    
>>
>
>If you want to drink a lager style beer you would be better off drinking 
>something imported such as Budweiser Budvar or various German brews.
>

seconded. try and get hold of Frstenberg or Rothaus Pils / Tannen 
Zpfle, for example.

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-a n'est pas une brebis siamoise, c'est Galeann !! 
(F'murrr)

Laurent Mousson, Berne, Switzerland

On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 19:39:52 +0100, "Gareth" 
wrote:


>Is there a good UK lager style beer that anyone would recommend (i.e. not 
>merely mass produced chemical fizz)? Preferably something that is 
>readily/easily available and something with a 4 to 5% alcohol content.
>
>Gareth. 

Many micros brew a cask conditioned lager and at a local beer festival
the organiser bought 5 firkins of one to give to those who said "I'm
normally a lager drinker.What have you got that I'd like?"

In message , JohnB 
 writes

>Brett... wrote:
>> Gareth wrote:
>
>> In addition try some of the golden ales that are popular at the moment.
>
>Agreed - I have had a few pints of Moorhouse's Blonde Witch recently 
>and when served nice and cool on a warm summer's evening it is a 
>fabulous light refreshing pint.
>
>--
>JohnB
>

I tried the Cain's lager on the first day of gbbf, it seemed vinegary, i 
cant see most lager drinkers trusting anything from a hand pump.
-- 
martyn dawe

martyn dawe a crit :


> I tried the Cain's lager on the first day of gbbf, it seemed vinegary, 
> i cant see most lager drinkers trusting anything from a hand pump.



    I tried it on the second day and it smelled and tasted lik green
    olives (!), I tried it again the next day from someone else's glass,
    and it was quite sulphury... I guess they'll get it right
    eventually, I heard very good reports from the cask served at the
    BGBW's reception on the Monday before, but I suspect the product and
    its production process weren't really completely under control yet
    at the time of the GBBF launch.

    Which is a shame, because to any other respects, the evolution at
    Cains looks really positive since the Dusanjes did take over :
    excellent strategy of consolidating their local Merseyside home
    market, great job on the packaging design, bottled and canned beers
    that are miles ahead of that awful, overpasteurised Cains FA in
    litre cans from Denmark, and a solid commitment to cask ale to boot !

    Cheers !

    Laurent

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(F'murrr)

Laurent Mousson, Berne, Switzerland

"martyn dawe"  wrote in message 
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> In message , JohnB 
>  writes
>>Brett... wrote:
>>> Gareth wrote:
>>
>>> In addition try some of the golden ales that are popular at the moment.
>>
>>Agreed - I have had a few pints of Moorhouse's Blonde Witch recently and 
>>when served nice and cool on a warm summer's evening it is a fabulous 
>>light refreshing pint.
>>
>>--
>>JohnB
>>
> I tried the Cain's lager on the first day of gbbf, it seemed vinegary, i 
> cant see most lager drinkers trusting anything from a hand pump.
> -- 
> martyn dawe


That's a shame. I've tried it a number of times in the last 6 months and can 
that it's a great beer. Not sure if your average lager drinker would like it 
though.

Cheers
johnnysaint

johnnysaint a crit :


>"martyn dawe"  wrote in message 
>news:PNBtuBEl+eBDFwfx@ganlin1.demon.co.uk...
>  
>
>>I tried the Cain's lager on the first day of gbbf, it seemed vinegary, i 
>>cant see most lager drinkers trusting anything from a hand pump.
>>-- 
>>martyn dawe
>>    
>>
>
>That's a shame. I've tried it a number of times in the last 6 months and can 
>that it's a great beer. Not sure if your average lager drinker would like it 
>though.
>

6 months ?
Erm... we're referring here to the cask-conditioned version, that was 
launched at GBBF on 2 August. [granted, the keg version is decent enough 
indeed to UK "lager" standards.]


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"The Submarine Captain"  wrote in message 
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> johnnysaint a crit :

>>That's a shame. I've tried it a number of times in the last 6 months and 
>>can that it's a great beer. Not sure if your average lager drinker would 
>>like it though.
>>
> 6 months ?
> Erm... we're referring here to the cask-conditioned version, that was 
> launched at GBBF on 2 August. [granted, the keg version is decent enough 
> indeed to UK "lager" standards.]
>
>
> -- 
> Warning : you may encounter French language beyond this point.
>
> - Je me demande souvent ce qui peut rapprocher les tres ?... Qu'est-ce 
> qui les attire lezuns vers lezautres ?
> - Les caramels... (F'murrr)
>
> Laurent Mousson, Berne, Switzerland


No, I'm referring to the cask version which was launched at the Liverpool 
CAMRA Beer Festival in February of this year. In fact it was "one of the 
brothers" who pulled the pint for me.

See: 
http://www.cainsbeer.com/index/articles_view.php?main_cat=1&first_art=true

Since then it's been available in cask form in a limited way throughout the 
North West. I've not tried it in keg form.

Cheers
johnnysaint

Cain's had a stall at the Southport Flower Show today, operated by one of 
the "Brothers", giving away what appeared to be free samples of Bitter and 
the Lager- sadly the keg versions. No, I did not.


> No, I'm referring to the cask version which was launched at the Liverpool 
> CAMRA Beer Festival in February of this year. In fact it was "one of the 
> brothers" who pulled the pint for me.
>
> See: 
> http://www.cainsbeer.com/index/articles_view.php?main_cat=1&first_art=true
>
> Since then it's been available in cask form in a limited way throughout 
> the North West. I've not tried it in keg form.
>
> Cheers
> johnnysaint
> 

"Gareth"  wrote in message 
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> Is there a good UK lager style beer that anyone would recommend (i.e. not 
> merely mass produced chemical fizz)? Preferably something that is 
> readily/easily available and something with a 4 to 5% alcohol content.


Thanks for all the replies.

I've just tried Green King's special release "Beer To Dine For" (with a 
redemption money back offer). It's very nice beer indeed - the style of a 
lager but with the finish and depth of a crafted real ale. The label claims 
that the taste has a melon like quality and indeed it does. I will certainly 
buy some more and with a "try it for free offer" (although only 1 claim per 
household) there may well be such a thing as free beer ;-)

Gareth.

On 23 Aug 2005 04:56:06 -0700, "MikeMcG" 
wrote:

>
>I tried the keg version in DrDuncan's, a good while back & it wasn't
>too bad, then the cask version at the same Liverpool beerfest as Johnny
>& it was delicious.
>
>I finally went on the Cain's tour last night(*) & the guide enthused so
>much about the cask lager that my mate & I each ordered a pint - which
>sadly was totally undrinkable, vinegary, apple-cidery, tart, etc. v
>unpleasant & this is in the brewery tap! Poor show.


There have been far too many similar stories IMHO. Cains need to sort
their quality control out or this beer will die a death, and tarnish
the reputation of cask beer amongst lager drinkers while doing it.

Best regards, Paul
--
Paul Sherwin Consulting     http://paulsherwin.co.uk

On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 19:39:52 +0100, "Gareth" 
wrote:


>Is there a good UK lager style beer that anyone would recommend (i.e. not 
>merely mass produced chemical fizz)? Preferably something that is 
>readily/easily available and something with a 4 to 5% alcohol content.


*All* the British brewed mass market lagers are pretty grim. Your best
bet if you like keg pilsner lager is to look out for the draught
imports which are reasonably widely available - Warsteiner and
Bitburger from Germany, or Budveiser Budvar or Staropramen from the
Czech Republic..

British microbrewery 'lagers' ase cask conditioned beers and generally
won't appeal to the typical draught lager drinker (but please try them
and decide for yourself).

HTH, Paul
--
Paul Sherwin Consulting     http://paulsherwin.co.uk

Gareth wrote:

> "Gareth"  wrote in message
> news:430232ca$0$1287$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
> > Is there a good UK lager style beer that anyone would recommend (i.e. not
> > merely mass produced chemical fizz)? Preferably something that is
> > readily/easily available and something with a 4 to 5% alcohol content.
>
> Thanks for all the replies.
>
> I've just tried Green King's special release "Beer To Dine For" (with a
> redemption money back offer). It's very nice beer indeed - the style of a
> lager


don't let GK's headbrewer hear you :~) it may be brewed with lager malt
& lager hops (tettnang) but on a recent BBC food prog he nearly lynched
the presenter who suggested it was like a decent lager.
cheers
MikeMcG


> but with the finish and depth of a crafted real ale. The label claims
> that the taste has a melon like quality and indeed it does. I will certainly
> buy some more and with a "try it for free offer" (although only 1 claim per
> household) there may well be such a thing as free beer ;-)
> Gareth.

johnnysaint wrote:

> "The Submarine Captain"  wrote in message
> news:430721df$1_2@news.bluewin.ch...
> > johnnysaint a écrit :
>
> >>That's a shame. I've tried it a number of times in the last 6 months and
> >>can that it's a great beer. Not sure if your average lager drinker would
> >>like it though.
> >>
> > 6 months ?
> > Erm... we're referring here to the cask-conditioned version, that was
> > launched at GBBF on 2 August. [granted, the keg version is decent enough
> > indeed to UK "lager" standards.]

> > Laurent Mousson, Berne, Switzerland

> No, I'm referring to the cask version which was launched at the Liverpool
> CAMRA Beer Festival in February of this year. In fact it was "one of the
> brothers" who pulled the pint for me.
> See:
> http://www.cainsbeer.com/index/articles_view.php?main_cat=1&first_art=true
>
> Since then it's been available in cask form in a limited way throughout the
> North West. I've not tried it in keg form.
> Cheers
> johnnysaint


I tried the keg version in DrDuncan's, a good while back & it wasn't
too bad, then the cask version at the same Liverpool beerfest as Johnny
& it was delicious.

I finally went on the Cain's tour last night(*) & the guide enthused so
much about the cask lager that my mate & I each ordered a pint - which
sadly was totally undrinkable, vinegary, apple-cidery, tart, etc. v
unpleasant & this is in the brewery tap! Poor show.

The keg version seemed the same as before, i.e. a pleasant enough
decent-ish lager, but not v bitter and no real hoppiness, unlike the
cask version previously.

The citrusfruit special (the guide said brewed with oranges, the
pumpclip asys lemons), Sundowner wasn't great IMO either, but bitter,
mild & FA were all delicious.

(*)imperfect but still highly recommended - £3.75 for tour, 2pints 
buffet!
cheers
MikeMcG

"Paul Sherwin"  wrote in message 
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> On 23 Aug 2005 04:56:06 -0700, "MikeMcG" 
> wrote:
>>
>>I tried the keg version in DrDuncan's, a good while back & it wasn't
>>too bad, then the cask version at the same Liverpool beerfest as Johnny
>>& it was delicious.
>>
>>I finally went on the Cain's tour last night(*) & the guide enthused so
>>much about the cask lager that my mate & I each ordered a pint - which
>>sadly was totally undrinkable, vinegary, apple-cidery, tart, etc. v
>>unpleasant & this is in the brewery tap! Poor show.
>
> There have been far too many similar stories IMHO. Cains need to sort
> their quality control out or this beer will die a death, and tarnish
> the reputation of cask beer amongst lager drinkers while doing it.
>


I tried the cask version in Dr Duncan's last Saturday and couldn't decide if 
it was really meant to taste like it did or if it was slightly off. I'm 
disinclined to give it another try, although it would be nice to know just 
what it is meant to taste like.

David