I just bought a 2nd hard drive or mirror my primary drive.

I'm looking for a recommendation of a program that allows:

+ automated scheduled backup
+ non-proprietary backup format (zip or even non-compressed)
+ incremental backup (that uses a single structure to add to)
+ is not too expensive

Any recommendations please?

Thanks

Acronis True Image

http://www.acronis.com/


Very good program


"BonzaiMaster"  wrote in message 
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>I just bought a 2nd hard drive or mirror my primary drive.
>
> I'm looking for a recommendation of a program that allows:
>
> + automated scheduled backup
> + non-proprietary backup format (zip or even non-compressed)
> + incremental backup (that uses a single structure to add to)
> + is not too expensive
>
> Any recommendations please?
>
> Thanks
>
>
> 

Cobian backup is the best - and its free!
http://www.educ.umu.se/~cobian/cobianbackup.htm

Been using it for months and it just sits there as a service, doing its job 
properly with no interruption.


"BonzaiMaster"  wrote in message 
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>I just bought a 2nd hard drive or mirror my primary drive.
>
> I'm looking for a recommendation of a program that allows:
>
> + automated scheduled backup
> + non-proprietary backup format (zip or even non-compressed)
> + incremental backup (that uses a single structure to add to)
> + is not too expensive
>
> Any recommendations please?
>
> Thanks
>
>
> 

On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 09:28:42 +0100, "BonzaiMaster"
 wrote:


>I just bought a 2nd hard drive or mirror my primary drive.
>
>I'm looking for a recommendation of a program that allows:
>
>+ automated scheduled backup
>+ non-proprietary backup format (zip or even non-compressed)
>+ incremental backup (that uses a single structure to add to)
>+ is not too expensive
>
>Any recommendations please?
>
>Thanks
>
>

Second Copy 2000.

http://www.centered.com/products.html
http://www.centered.com/support.html
http://www.centered.com/order.html


Hope this helps.


-- 
Regards from Mike and Jan Barnard.
South Coast, UK.

[To reply by email remove ".trousers" spamtrap from email address]

YEH! I completely agree with you.
 I've been using True Image
(http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage) for a long
time, I must say that it's the easiest backup solution I've ever seen:
I just create an image of my HDD and I keep this image on my PC in
secured (provide by Acronis) and another copy on the several CD-RW
disks (but it allows use non-compressed image). Also I do incremental
backup every day using built-in task sheduler, and once a month I
remake full backup. Before it I copy previous image with all
incremental backups on DVD.
So, I guess it's completely satisfy your requirement, True Image is
cheaper then some other soft of this type. And you can try free trial
version before buy.

YEH! I completely agree with you.
 I've been using True Image
(http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage) for a long
time, I must say that it's the easiest backup solution I've ever seen:
I just create an image of my HDD and I keep this image on my PC in
secured (provide by Acronis) and another copy on the several CD-RW
disks (but it allows use non-compressed image). Also I do incremental
backup every day using built-in task sheduler, and once a month I
remake full backup. Before it I copy previous image with all
incremental backups on DVD.
So, I guess it's completely satisfy your requirement, True Image is
cheaper then some other soft of this type. And you can try free trial
version before buy.

YEH! I completely agree with you.
 I've been using True Image
(http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage) for a long
time, I must say that it's the easiest backup solution I've ever seen:
I just create an image of my HDD and I keep this image on my PC in
secured (provide by Acronis) and another copy on the several CD-RW
disks (but it allows use non-compressed image). Also I do incremental
backup every day using built-in task sheduler, and once a month I
remake full backup. Before it I copy previous image with all
incremental backups on DVD.
So, I guess it's completely satisfy your requirement, True Image is
cheaper then some other soft of this type. And you can try free trial
version before buy.

Sorry! for twins.

comp wrote:

> Cobian backup is the best - and its free!
> http://www.educ.umu.se/~cobian/cobianbackup.htm
>
> Been using it for months and it just sits there as a service, doing
> its job properly with no interruption.
>


I second that.  Nice and easy to use, good interface as well.

"BonzaiMaster"  wrote in message 
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>I just bought a 2nd hard drive or mirror my primary drive.
>
> I'm looking for a recommendation of a program that allows:
>
> + automated scheduled backup
> + non-proprietary backup format (zip or even non-compressed)
> + incremental backup (that uses a single structure to add to)
> + is not too expensive
>
> Any recommendations please?
>
> Thanks
>


I have been using Handy Backup for the past few months without any 
problems - it can do full & incremental backups to my DVD-RAM drive.

http://www.handybackup.com/

And Ghost to back up partitions/hard drives.
-- 
Doug Ramage

[Watch Spam Trap]

Solei wrote:


> Sorry! for twins.


I can see you are really into this backup thing!

-- 
Chris Game

"If everyone with a question just went away and looked it up
we'd never learn anything." -- Carlie Hulme

Chris Game wrote:

> 
> Solei wrote:
> 
> > Sorry! for twins.
> 
> I can see you are really into this backup thing!


Yes, why not using the ng as backup media?

"BonzaiMaster"  wrote in message 
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>I just bought a 2nd hard drive or mirror my primary drive.
>
> I'm looking for a recommendation of a program that allows:
>
> + automated scheduled backup
> + non-proprietary backup format (zip or even non-compressed)
> + incremental backup (that uses a single structure to add to)
> + is not too expensive
>
> Any recommendations please?
>
> Thanks



http://www.superflexible.com/

As the name suggests, it is very flexible.

Seems well written and reliable too.

There is a free trial.

BonzaiMaster wrote:

> I'm looking for a recommendation of a program that allows: + automated
> scheduled backup
> + non-proprietary backup format (zip or even non-compressed)
> + incremental backup (that uses a single structure to add to)
> + is not too expensive




The following is a copy of my response to Solei's post, which was, now I
discovered, all over the place!  The recommendations here are worthy of
note, and deserve a wider recognition.

---------------------------------------------------------------------
I use DrvImagerXP.  When I downloaded the software in October, 2003, there
had been 4 700 downloads recorded.  Today, the number is 47 800 (I just
checked).  It has served me magnificently, being solidly reliable, without
one single incidence of misbehaviour.  The only downside is it needs .NET
Framework to run on in a separate partition (I don't use that otherwise).
http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/Back-Up-and-Recovery/DrvImagerXP.shtml
But the best part about it is, it's completely free.  Oh...there is no help
from the author (The programme is so simple, you don't need it); he has
turned to do something else!

For automatic, scheduled nightly backup of My Documents and Favourites, I
use Replicator [which has an incremental option]:
http://www.karenware.com/powertools/ptreplicator.asp
Again, another solidly reliable free software.  Thoroughly worthy of the
highest praise, as is the above gem.

These may not be as sophisticated as the one suggested but they serve the
purpose.  I can recommend these two to those on tight budget.

-- 
Lin Chung
[Replace "the Water Margin" with "ntlworld" for e-mail].

Acronis backup software. This program fully satisfies your
requirements. You may be certain that it's true by looking here:
http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/
On my behalf I can add that I've been using this program for a year now
and it has never let me down.

Acronis backup software. This program fully satisfies your
requirements. You may be certain that it's true by looking here:
http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/
On my behalf I can add that I've been using this program for a year now
and it has never let me down.

"BonzaiMaster"  wrote in message 
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>I just bought a 2nd hard drive or mirror my primary drive.
>
> I'm looking for a recommendation of a program that allows:
>
> + automated scheduled backup
> + non-proprietary backup format (zip or even non-compressed)
> + incremental backup (that uses a single structure to add to)
> + is not too expensive
>
> Any recommendations please?
>
> Thanks
>

I use a program called Secondcopy200

"BonzaiMaster"  wrote in message
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> I just bought a 2nd hard drive or mirror my primary drive.


You do realise that 'mirroring' is not actually a proper backup?  What are
you going to do if the second hard drive fails?

On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 22:09:59 +0100, "Michael Cargill"
 wrote:


>"BonzaiMaster"  wrote in message
>news:3mdmdvF1630olU1@individual.net...
>> I just bought a 2nd hard drive or mirror my primary drive.
>
>You do realise that 'mirroring' is not actually a proper backup?  What are
>you going to do if the second hard drive fails?
>


it is and it's not, depends how you think of a backup.

It's certainly a proper backup but it's still inside the PC, if the PC
bursts into flames your backups gone.

Also you need to make sure your system tells you of any errors rather
than reverting to the mirror without telling you otherwise you can get
to the situation where you are using the backup as the active disk and
it it dies your stuffed

"Michael Cargill"  wrote in message 
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> "BonzaiMaster"  wrote in message
> news:3mdmdvF1630olU1@individual.net...
>> I just bought a 2nd hard drive or mirror my primary drive.
>
> You do realise that 'mirroring' is not actually a proper backup?  What are
> you going to do if the second hard drive fails?
>


There is a risk that what ever backup media you use it could fail when you 
need it, tape, CDR, CDRW, hard disk, etc.

"Gavin"  wrote in message
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>
> it is and it's not, depends how you think of a backup.
>
> It's certainly a proper backup but it's still inside the PC, if the PC
> bursts into flames your backups gone.
>
> Also you need to make sure your system tells you of any errors rather
> than reverting to the mirror without telling you otherwise you can get
> to the situation where you are using the backup as the active disk and
> it it dies your stuffed


Mirroring is a terrible thing to rely on - if the file gets deleted or
corrupted on the main hard drive, then the same thing happens to version on
the mirror.

"erics"  wrote in message
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>
> There is a risk that what ever backup media you use it could fail when you
> need it, tape, CDR, CDRW, hard disk, etc.


But with tapes and CDR's, you are going to have a backlog of them to rely
on - you are only going to have the one hard disk.

"Michael Cargill"  wrote in message 
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> "erics"  wrote in message
> news:43059bcc$0$13705$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...
>>
>> There is a risk that what ever backup media you use it could fail when 
>> you
>> need it, tape, CDR, CDRW, hard disk, etc.
>
> But with tapes and CDR's, you are going to have a backlog of them to rely
> on - you are only going to have the one hard disk.
>


But you will still lose data if you have to have to resort to one other than 
the most recent.

On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 09:55:55 +0100, "Michael Cargill"
 wrote:


>"Gavin"  wrote in message
>news:5k1bg15ja6juqm8kvoncnfo9na6c71b7au@4ax.com...
>>
>> it is and it's not, depends how you think of a backup.
>>
>> It's certainly a proper backup but it's still inside the PC, if the PC
>> bursts into flames your backups gone.
>>
>> Also you need to make sure your system tells you of any errors rather
>> than reverting to the mirror without telling you otherwise you can get
>> to the situation where you are using the backup as the active disk and
>> it it dies your stuffed
>
>Mirroring is a terrible thing to rely on - if the file gets deleted or
>corrupted on the main hard drive, then the same thing happens to version on
>the mirror.
>



If it's deleted sure, but as long as corruption only happens on the
hard isk you'll get away with it,

As you said I certainly would not use it as a backup, but it is an
option

"erics"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Michael Cargill"  wrote in message 
> news:3mllb9F17ps3hU1@individual.net...
>> "erics"  wrote in message
>> news:43059bcc$0$13705$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...
>>>
>>> There is a risk that what ever backup media you use it could fail when 
>>> you
>>> need it, tape, CDR, CDRW, hard disk, etc.
>>
>> But with tapes and CDR's, you are going to have a backlog of them to rely
>> on - you are only going to have the one hard disk.
>>
>
> But you will still lose data if you have to have to resort to one other 
> than the most recent.



I use second copy 2000  and mirror to a hard drive on another computer on my 
network.

When my Laptop hard drive died, all I had to do was copy the data from my 
network server  to another  laptop.   Works well for me.

Lin Chung wrote:

> For automatic, scheduled nightly backup of My Documents and Favourites, I
> use Replicator [which has an incremental option]:
> http://www.karenware.com/powertools/ptreplicator.asp
> Again, another solidly reliable free software.  Thoroughly worthy of the
> highest praise, as is the above gem.
> 

Thanks a million Lin for highlighting that gem!

I travel about a fair bit with a laptop, and intermittently connect up 
with an office network to store the updates of work i've done on the 
laptop. Occasionally, I also backup the laptop to a USB memory stick, 
particulary before taking the machine off-site (where anything like 
theft or breakages can happen). Replicator is damm useful in making all 
these actions a one-click process for replication on demand, and a whole 
lot better than repeatedly dragging files all over the desktop to keep 
backups current. 10/10!

Cheers

Adrian C

Adrian C wrote:

> Lin Chung wrote:
> > For automatic, scheduled nightly backup of My Documents and Favourites,
> > I use Replicator [which has an incremental option]:
> > http://www.karenware.com/powertools/ptreplicator.asp
> > Again, another solidly reliable free software.  Thoroughly worthy of the
> > highest praise, as is the above gem.
> Thanks a million Lin for highlighting that gem!
> .......10/10!




Thanks for the feedback!

-- 
Lin Chung
[Replace "the Water Margin" with "ntlworld" for e-mail].