Sometime back Datawrite Classis DVD-R Grey-Top was recommend by quite a few
people here. And I've been very happy with the disc for months now. But
went to order from SVP, and its not there anymore! arghh!

I've looked, but I can't find an obvious replacement. Is there a new
recommendation, or hopefully maybe the same disc is out there with a
different sticker?

Thanks

ln  wrote in
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> Sometime back Datawrite Classis DVD-R Grey-Top was recommend by quite
> a few people here. And I've been very happy with the disc for months
> now. But went to order from SVP, and its not there anymore! arghh!
> 
> I've looked, but I can't find an obvious replacement. Is there a new
> recommendation, or hopefully maybe the same disc is out there with a
> different sticker?
> 
> Thanks
> 


Never had a problem with
{DV 3250} Datasafe (8x) DVD-R in Spindle Tubs of 50

and they've been in a fair few DVD Players.

Billywhizz wrote:

> ln  wrote in
> news:opa9vzy6mp5l$.1w27xa6wbq9p$.dlg@40tude.net:
>
> > Sometime back Datawrite Classis DVD-R Grey-Top was recommend by quite
> > a few people here. And I've been very happy with the disc for months
> > now. But went to order from SVP, and its not there anymore! arghh!
> >
> > I've looked, but I can't find an obvious replacement. Is there a new
> > recommendation, or hopefully maybe the same disc is out there with a
> > different sticker?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
>
> Never had a problem with
> {DV 3250} Datasafe (8x) DVD-R in Spindle Tubs of 50
>
> and they've been in a fair few DVD Players.


We still sell the greys (They are still a good disc they use a slightly
different version of the dye these days)

{DV 3257} Datawrite Grey F01 (8x) DVD-R in Spindle Tubs of 100.  20p
per disc at time of writing this.
You will find them here:
http://www.blankdiscshop.co.uk/acatalog/dvd-rnoprint.html#a1942

Steve

ln wrote:


> I've looked, but I can't find an obvious replacement. Is there a new
> recommendation, or hopefully maybe the same disc is out there with a
> different sticker?


I'd go for the Ritek G05 based discs. Datawrite Light Blues or the Ritek
Xtreme's

In my experience the Prodisc F01 dye on the Greys is not very good (esp
compared to the old FUJIFILM one).
 
-- 
usenet at lordy dot org u k

>
> I'd go for the Ritek G05 based discs. Datawrite Light Blues or the Ritek
> Xtreme's
>



I'd second that. Ritek went away from the G series to the M series, but 
quickly re-introduced the G05's due to demand. The Xtremes are just 
excellent.
They are the best disks Ive ever used (and Ive pretty much tried them all), 
although they arent 16x if its speed you require.

In article , 
steve@svp.co.uk says...

> We still sell the greys (They are still a good disc they use a slightly
> different version of the dye these days)
> {DV 3257} Datawrite Grey F01 (8x) DVD-R in Spindle Tubs of 100.  20p
> per disc at time of writing this.
> You will find them here:
> http://www.blankdiscshop.co.uk/acatalog/dvd-rnoprint.html#a1942
> Steve


Nice to see you lurking Steve !

I'm on my second tub of 50 RiDisc 8x DVD-Rs - they seem to just work for me 
in a NEC 3520a burner.

"ln"  wrote in message 
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> Sometime back Datawrite Classis DVD-R Grey-Top was recommend by quite a 
> few
> people here. And I've been very happy with the disc for months now. But
> went to order from SVP, and its not there anymore! arghh!
>
> I've looked, but I can't find an obvious replacement. Is there a new
> recommendation, or hopefully maybe the same disc is out there with a
> different sticker?
>
> Thanks 

>> I've looked, but I can't find an obvious replacement. Is there a new
>> recommendation, or hopefully maybe the same disc is out there with a
>> different sticker?
> 
> I'd go for the Ritek G05 based discs. Datawrite Light Blues or the Ritek
> Xtreme's
> 


Thanks Lordy. I've found the Xtreme disc on SVP, but the naming of the
discs I'm a bit confused on. On SVP its called "Ridisc Xtreme" rather than
Ritek. Is it the same thing? It mentions it's Ritek G05 dye - is that the
main thing I should be aware of, rather the brand name?

Cheers to everyone who replied also. Much appreciated.

"ln"  wrote in message 
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>>> I've looked, but I can't find an obvious replacement. Is there a new
>>> recommendation, or hopefully maybe the same disc is out there with a
>>> different sticker?
>>
>> I'd go for the Ritek G05 based discs. Datawrite Light Blues or the Ritek
>> Xtreme's
>>
>
> Thanks Lordy. I've found the Xtreme disc on SVP, but the naming of the
> discs I'm a bit confused on. On SVP its called "Ridisc Xtreme" rather than
> Ritek. Is it the same thing?


Riek is the dye.  RiDisc is the manufacturer.


> It mentions it's Ritek G05 dye - is that the
> main thing I should be aware of, rather the brand name?
>


Yup.  There are variances but any discs with the G05 dye is a good bet.

Tron[ADS] wrote:


> They are the best disks Ive ever used (and Ive pretty much tried them
> all), although they arent 16x if its speed you require.


I'd be interested to know what percentage of pcs with 16 speed drives can
actually sustain that data rate without Burn Proof etc kicking in and
introducing more errors on the disk (that has to be corrected on playback)
and slowing down overall burn times significantly. 

My system is no slouch but I still see the LED's flicker at 8 speed on
occasion. (Maybe time to revisit my IDE setup. Esp now I have a SATA HD.)

Lordy

steeler wrote:


> 
> Yup.  There are variances but any discs with the G05 dye is a good bet.


Except (IMO Bulkpaq) which seem to have a low build quality? I had some
Bulkpaqs with FUJI dye and they were not very good. More errors running
Kprobe etc.

Lordy

ln wrote:


>  On SVP its called "Ridisc Xtreme" rather than
> Ritek. Is it the same thing? It mentions it's Ritek G05 dye - is that the
> main thing I should be aware of, rather the brand name?


Yes sorry RiDisc Xtreme with the Ritek G05 dye.
Avoid (IMO again) the Titanium range. Not bad but not great either. That
just looks like marketing hype to me.

RiDisc Extreme or Datawrite Light Blues are my flavour of the month!

Lordy

"Lordy" <SPAMusenet@do.not.reply.invalid> wrote in message
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> ln wrote:
>
> >  On SVP its called "Ridisc Xtreme" rather than
> > Ritek. Is it the same thing? It mentions it's Ritek G05 dye - is that
the
> > main thing I should be aware of, rather the brand name?
>
> Yes sorry RiDisc Xtreme with the Ritek G05 dye.
> Avoid (IMO again) the Titanium range. Not bad but not great either. That
> just looks like marketing hype to me.
>
> RiDisc Extreme or Datawrite Light Blues are my flavour of the month!


I've just finished a 50 pack of Titanium's in a Pioneer 109.
No coasters at all.

Howdy wrote:


> "Lordy" <SPAMusenet@do.not.reply.invalid> wrote in message
> news:OMsMe.35559$TK3.15402@fe05.news.easynews.com...
>> ln wrote:
>>
>> >  On SVP its called "Ridisc Xtreme" rather than
>> > Ritek. Is it the same thing? It mentions it's Ritek G05 dye - is that
> the
>> > main thing I should be aware of, rather the brand name?
>>
>> Yes sorry RiDisc Xtreme with the Ritek G05 dye.
>> Avoid (IMO again) the Titanium range. Not bad but not great either. That
>> just looks like marketing hype to me.
>>
>> RiDisc Extreme or Datawrite Light Blues are my flavour of the month!
> 
> I've just finished a 50 pack of Titanium's in a Pioneer 109.
> No coasters at all.


I'm not talking about coasters but the qualilty of the burn. Ie the number
of error's laid down on the disc that have to be corrected by the playback
device. This affects compatibility to some extent and also quite likely
longevity. For me Titaniums gave more errors than G05 based discs.

The Titaniums were still respectable but for the money the G05 discs were
better.

Coasters are very rare for any discs sold by SVP!

Lordy

On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 21:16:14 GMT, Lordy
<SPAMusenet@do.not.reply.invalid> wrote:


>Tron[ADS] wrote:
>
>> They are the best disks Ive ever used (and Ive pretty much tried them
>> all), although they arent 16x if its speed you require.
>
>I'd be interested to know what percentage of pcs with 16 speed drives can
>actually sustain that data rate without Burn Proof etc kicking in and
>introducing more errors on the disk (that has to be corrected on playback)
>and slowing down overall burn times significantly. 
>
>My system is no slouch but I still see the LED's flicker at 8 speed on
>occasion. (Maybe time to revisit my IDE setup. Esp now I have a SATA HD.)
>


I got one of SVP's 16x LG DVD writers at just under 30.
This evening, I copied (as a safety backup measure) a highly protected
DVD movie, using a blank 8x very cheap unbranded DVD-R.
It took under 15 minutes for a 2 hour movie.
Just finished watching the copy. Perfect.

I am quite happy with the 16x drive and the cheap 8x DVD-Rs.

"Lordy" <SPAMusenet@do.not.reply.invalid> wrote in message 
news:IKsMe.35532$TK3.1237@fe05.news.easynews.com...

> steeler wrote:
>
>>
>> Yup.  There are variances but any discs with the G05 dye is a good bet.
>
> Except (IMO Bulkpaq) which seem to have a low build quality? I had some
> Bulkpaqs with FUJI dye and they were not very good. More errors running
> Kprobe etc.
>


Have BP ever used ritek dye?  Personally I excluded BulkCrap as anyone who 
buys their stuff deserves to get junk.

"Lordy" <SPAMusenet@do.not.reply.invalid> wrote in message 
news:bZsMe.88230$D21.22903@fe07.news.easynews.com...

> Howdy wrote:
>
>> "Lordy" <SPAMusenet@do.not.reply.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:OMsMe.35559$TK3.15402@fe05.news.easynews.com...
>>> ln wrote:
>>>
>>> >  On SVP its called "Ridisc Xtreme" rather than
>>> > Ritek. Is it the same thing? It mentions it's Ritek G05 dye - is that
>> the
>>> > main thing I should be aware of, rather the brand name?
>>>
>>> Yes sorry RiDisc Xtreme with the Ritek G05 dye.
>>> Avoid (IMO again) the Titanium range. Not bad but not great either. That
>>> just looks like marketing hype to me.
>>>
>>> RiDisc Extreme or Datawrite Light Blues are my flavour of the month!
>>
>> I've just finished a 50 pack of Titanium's in a Pioneer 109.
>> No coasters at all.
>
> I'm not talking about coasters but the qualilty of the burn. Ie the number
> of error's laid down on the disc that have to be corrected by the playback
> device. This affects compatibility to some extent and also quite likely
> longevity. For me Titaniums gave more errors than G05 based discs.
>
> The Titaniums were still respectable but for the money the G05 discs were
> better.
>


I was a tester for Titanium when the yellows came out. 45 with a near 
perfect burn graph and 5 coasters.

"Walter B."  wrote in message 
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> On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 21:16:14 GMT, Lordy
> <SPAMusenet@do.not.reply.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Tron[ADS] wrote:
>>
>>> They are the best disks Ive ever used (and Ive pretty much tried them
>>> all), although they arent 16x if its speed you require.
>>
>>I'd be interested to know what percentage of pcs with 16 speed drives can
>>actually sustain that data rate without Burn Proof etc kicking in and
>>introducing more errors on the disk (that has to be corrected on playback)
>>and slowing down overall burn times significantly.
>>
>>My system is no slouch but I still see the LED's flicker at 8 speed on
>>occasion. (Maybe time to revisit my IDE setup. Esp now I have a SATA HD.)
>>
>
> I got one of SVP's 16x LG DVD writers at just under 30.
> This evening, I copied (as a safety backup measure) a highly protected
> DVD movie, using a blank 8x very cheap unbranded DVD-R.
> It took under 15 minutes for a 2 hour movie.
> Just finished watching the copy. Perfect.
>
> I am quite happy with the 16x drive and the cheap 8x DVD-Rs.


What has "highly protected" got to do with burn speed?  Any protection would 
be removed in the ripping stage surely.

Walter B. wrote:


> I got one of SVP's 16x LG DVD writers at just under 30.


Its amazing how cheap they are these days!! Just got a Nec 3540 and it was
half the price I remember spending on my DVD-ROM/CDR combo!


> This evening, I copied (as a safety backup measure) a highly protected
> DVD movie, using a blank 8x very cheap unbranded DVD-R.
> It took under 15 minutes for a 2 hour movie.
> Just finished watching the copy. Perfect.
> 
> I am quite happy with the 16x drive and the cheap 8x DVD-Rs.


How long was the actual burn time.  It me takes 15 minutes to burn a 4.4G
ISO at FOUR speed! 8speed burns take about 8-9 minutes. Nec 2510 

I bet for most people 8speed burns are as fast as 16 :)


Lordy

steeler wrote:


> 
> "Lordy" <SPAMusenet@do.not.reply.invalid> wrote in message
> news:IKsMe.35532$TK3.1237@fe05.news.easynews.com...
>> steeler wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Yup.  There are variances but any discs with the G05 dye is a good bet.
>>
>> Except (IMO Bulkpaq) which seem to have a low build quality? I had some
>> Bulkpaqs with FUJI dye and they were not very good. More errors running
>> Kprobe etc.
>>
> 
> Have BP ever used ritek dye?  Personally I excluded BulkCrap as anyone who
> buys their stuff deserves to get junk.


No idea, but like you , if they did, that would be one G05 disc I wouldn't
bother with! I just mentioned them to make the point that dye isnt
everything but I do agree with your statement. It's nice on this fence :)

Lordy

>>  On SVP its called "Ridisc Xtreme" rather than
>> Ritek. Is it the same thing? It mentions it's Ritek G05 dye - is that the
>> main thing I should be aware of, rather the brand name?
> 
> Yes sorry RiDisc Xtreme with the Ritek G05 dye.
> Avoid (IMO again) the Titanium range. Not bad but not great either. That
> just looks like marketing hype to me.
> 
> RiDisc Extreme or Datawrite Light Blues are my flavour of the month!
> 
> Lordy


Cheers Lordy. Much appreciated. They both look pretty snazzy too, makes a
change from the drab grey datawrites I've been using. :)

On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 22:54:05 +0100, "steeler" 
wrote:



>What has "highly protected" got to do with burn speed?  Any protection would 
>be removed in the ripping stage surely. 
>


Ripping?
I said I copied the DVD.
The copying process affects the total time taken.

On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 21:54:51 GMT, Lordy
<SPAMusenet@do.not.reply.invalid> wrote:



>How long was the actual burn time.  It me takes 15 minutes to burn a 4.4G
>ISO at FOUR speed! 8speed burns take about 8-9 minutes. Nec 2510 
>
>I bet for most people 8speed burns are as fast as 16 :)
>


I didn't time the burning bit, but am sure that it was well under 10
minutes.
Many many many times faster that copying videos in the old days!

"Walter B."  wrote in message 
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> On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 22:54:05 +0100, "steeler" 
> wrote:
>
>
>>What has "highly protected" got to do with burn speed?  Any protection 
>>would
>>be removed in the ripping stage surely.
>>
>
> Ripping?
> I said I copied the DVD.
> The copying process affects the total time taken.


If you did a straight "copy" then it had no protection.

On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 14:02:23 +0100, "steeler" 
wrote:



>> Ripping?
>> I said I copied the DVD.
>> The copying process affects the total time taken.
>
>If you did a straight "copy" then it had no protection. 
>


Are you incredibly dense or are you taking the piss?

"Walter B."  wrote in message 
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> On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 14:02:23 +0100, "steeler" 
> wrote:
>
>
>>> Ripping?
>>> I said I copied the DVD.
>>> The copying process affects the total time taken.
>>
>>If you did a straight "copy" then it had no protection.
>>
>
> Are you incredibly dense or are you taking the piss?


Assume I am dense and explain it for me.  How does the DVD being "highly 
protected" alter burning speed.  Unless you are timing the reading (ripping) 
of the DVD to hard disk and then the burning.  Not that we were talking 
about reading speeds of drives.