Does anyone know the locations and the types of locos that appeared in

>From Russia with Love? I 'm sure this must be documented somewhere but

my Google search didn't turn anything up. Were the daytime railway
scenes all actually shot in Turkey? One of the locos was a Kriegslok
but there were two others I couldn't identifiy.

Any enthusiat who has seen the film will have spotted that the night
scenes were obviously shot in Britain, with a Midland Railway signalbox
clearly in view. One of the trains is haused by a Black Five and
another by a loco with smoke deflectors, which I suppose  would have
been a rebuilt Scot or Patriot. I was initially baffled by the green
coaches, but a search through the the archives of this group reveals
that this was achieved by some sort of artificial tinting.

Andy KIrkham

Andy Kirkham  wrote in message
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> Does anyone know the locations and the types of locos that appeared in
> >From Russia with Love? I 'm sure this must be documented somewhere but
> my Google search didn't turn anything up. Were the daytime railway
> scenes all actually shot in Turkey? One of the locos was a Kriegslok
> but there were two others I couldn't identifiy.
>
> Any enthusiat who has seen the film will have spotted that the night
> scenes were obviously shot in Britain, with a Midland Railway signalbox
> clearly in view. One of the trains is haused by a Black Five and
> another by a loco with smoke deflectors, which I suppose  would have
> been a rebuilt Scot or Patriot. I was initially baffled by the green
> coaches, but a search through the the archives of this group reveals
> that this was achieved by some sort of artificial tinting.
>
> Andy KIrkham
>


Most of the 'real' material was stock shots, although use was made of
preserved French steam locos, so presumably those scenes were shot
'somewhere' in France.

(Source: Huntley, John. 1993. Railways on the Screen. Ian Allan.)

"Andy Kirkham" wrote:

> Does anyone know the locations and the types of locos that appeared in
>>From Russia with Love? I 'm sure this must be documented somewhere but
> my Google search didn't turn anything up. Were the daytime railway
> scenes all actually shot in Turkey? One of the locos was a Kriegslok
> but there were two others I couldn't identifiy.
>


Sounds to me like the Nene Valley Railway, near Peterborough. They have a 
Kriegslok 2-10-0, at least one French loco (a Chapelon 4-6-2?) and several 
green coaches.

I know it was used for Goldeneye (class 20 made to look like Russian Loco) 
and Octopussy (train enters Wansford tunnel).

The large amount of foreign engines and stock makes it ideal for filming 
such things. The long straights of track are also an advantage. The video 
for "Breakthru" by Queen was filmed there, including a section where the 
loco breaks through a (polystyrene) brick wall  under a bridge.

HOWEVER...

"From Russia with Love" was filmed in 1963, and the Nene Valley Railway 
didn't appear on the scene until 1974...

A list of what HAS been filmed there is at 
http://www.nvr.org.uk/other/filming.htm

-=# Amos E Wolfe #=-

>Any enthusiat who has seen the film will have spotted that the night
>scenes were obviously shot in Britain, with a Midland Railway >signalbox
>clearly in view. One of the trains is haused by a Black Five and
>another by a loco with smoke deflectors, which I suppose  would have
>been a rebuilt Scot or Patriot. I was initially baffled by the green
>coaches, but a search through the the archives of this group reveals
>that this was achieved by some sort of artificial tinting.



I didn't see the film this time, but from what I remember the green
coaches were only shown as the train rattled through the night, rather
than at stations.  At stations the coaches were not green, were they?
Why would they be tinted green for the other shots, if that made them
not match?

On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 21:53:34 GMT, "Amos E Wolfe"
 wrote:


>"Andy Kirkham" wrote:
>> Does anyone know the locations and the types of locos that appeared in
>>>From Russia with Love? I 'm sure this must be documented somewhere but
>> my Google search didn't turn anything up. Were the daytime railway
>> scenes all actually shot in Turkey? One of the locos was a Kriegslok
>> but there were two others I couldn't identifiy.
>>
>
>Sounds to me like the Nene Valley Railway, near Peterborough. They have a 
>Kriegslok 2-10-0, at least one French loco (a Chapelon 4-6-2?) and several 
>green coaches.
>
>I know it was used for Goldeneye (class 20 made to look like Russian Loco) 
>and Octopussy (train enters Wansford tunnel).
>
>The large amount of foreign engines and stock makes it ideal for filming 
>such things. The long straights of track are also an advantage. The video 
>for "Breakthru" by Queen was filmed there, including a section where the 
>loco breaks through a (polystyrene) brick wall  under a bridge.
>
>HOWEVER...
>
>"From Russia with Love" was filmed in 1963, and the Nene Valley Railway 
>didn't appear on the scene until 1974...
>
>A list of what HAS been filmed there is at 
>http://www.nvr.org.uk/other/filming.htm
>
>-=# Amos E Wolfe #=- 
>



I've been following a thread on this subject recently (and I can't
remember where it was  before anyone asks) which reached the
conclusion that some of it was Turkey, a bit in France, some stock UK
footage, err - thats all I can remember......

G

MIG wrote:

> >Any enthusiat who has seen the film will have spotted that the night
> >scenes were obviously shot in Britain, with a Midland Railway >signalbox
> >clearly in view. One of the trains is haused by a Black Five and
> >another by a loco with smoke deflectors, which I suppose  would have
> >been a rebuilt Scot or Patriot. I was initially baffled by the green
> >coaches, but a search through the the archives of this group reveals
> >that this was achieved by some sort of artificial tinting.
>
>
> I didn't see the film this time, but from what I remember the green
> coaches were only shown as the train rattled through the night, rather
> than at stations.  At stations the coaches were not green, were they?
> Why would they be tinted green for the other shots, if that made them
> not match?


It seemed unlikely to me that the coaches were actually green because I
couldn't think of any circumstances in which Southern Region stock
would be running along a stretch of the former Midland Railway (any
suggestions, anyone? The Somerset & Dorset springs to mind but my
impression is that inter-regional trains via the S&D were formed of LMR
stock)

A contributor to a previous thread on this NG has pointed out that not
only are the coaches in these night scenes green, but also a band
painted on a shunting signal, which I think tends to confirm the
tinting theory.

Why the film-makers decided on this colour is anybody's guess!

Andy

Andy Kirkham wrote:


> > Why would they be tinted green for the other shots, if that made them
> > not match?

> A contributor to a previous thread on this NG has pointed out that not
> only are the coaches in these night scenes green, but also a band
> painted on a shunting signal, which I think tends to confirm the
> tinting theory.


Definitely there is a normal disc shunting signal but the bar is
coloured green.

One of the rolling stock shots looked to me as if it might have been SR
Bullied post war stock.

I wondered if it was olf black and white archive material they found,
and used the green tinting, not to change the colour but to give it
some ???

--
Nick

"MIG"  wrote in message
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> >Any enthusiat who has seen the film will have spotted that the night
> >scenes were obviously shot in Britain, with a Midland Railway >signalbox
> >clearly in view. One of the trains is haused by a Black Five and
> >another by a loco with smoke deflectors, which I suppose  would have
> >been a rebuilt Scot or Patriot. I was initially baffled by the green
> >coaches, but a search through the the archives of this group reveals
> >that this was achieved by some sort of artificial tinting.
>
>
> I didn't see the film this time, but from what I remember the green
> coaches were only shown as the train rattled through the night, rather
> than at stations.  At stations the coaches were not green, were they?
> Why would they be tinted green for the other shots, if that made them
> not match?


<sad git>

I had this on the DVD recorder from last weekend, so had a good look in
ultra slo-mo. I'd been able to spot the Midland signalbox on previous
viewings, and it certainly does look like a Scot or Patriot. As well as the
coaches being green, the locomotive buffer beam is green, and so is the
horizontal bar on a shunting signal - so there must have been some "green
for red" jiggery-pokery. The shots in the stations are conventional
Wagon-lits of the period. It's difficult to see if these were dark green or
blue - and I'm not sure what the continuity was like on this part of the
film.

Regards

Jonathan

Jonathan Morton wrote:


> horizontal bar on a shunting signal - so there must have been some "green
> for red" jiggery-pokery.


Or, as I posted above, it is really black and white archive footage
theyve coloured green for some reason .

--
Nick