Okay, to fill in where I'm at after last year or so.

I started fishing with my son last year, a complete know-nothing. I was 
actually slightly scared of fish - crtainly didn't want to touch one and NO 
WAYstick my fingers behind it's oppercula! Ahgg!!!

Anyway, my son soon made me start touching fish, but I still had no idea 
about fish9ing.

Derek, from this group, very kindly took me out one evening to start showing 
me the ropes of sea fishing - I'm sure he couldn't quite believe how 
ignorant a chap could be. I recall I actually squirmed when I tried to grab 
the first fish we landed - a tiddling smelt or something. I grabbed it and 
dropped it. trerrified in truth.

But I listened to hat he aid aND started doing the good stuff. Then I went 
out my elf to Hengistbury and caught a smallish bass off the beach...woo! I 
was hooked. pardon the phrase.  I even held it. It was released.

Then I went out with my son and we caught a few 1 - 2 lb trout for the pan. 
Very nice and satisfying.

Then I booked a trip on Electric Blue with Rob Thompson and went out for 
anything.  Over several trips I boated bass, 5lb pollock, Huss and a few 
gurnard. The digs got off but the eatables were eaten.

My sea fishing skills were quite competent and growing.

My best to date i the salmon thouigh.

We now have a few rods and reels, though I usually sea fish with the second 
hand carp rod I bought for 28 locally (new last year it went for 200. What 
do these carp boys smoke???). I still use simple reels though, no 
multipliers - because the boat I go on has better rods and reels than I 
could justify, simple as that.

I have learned a lot though in a year - shiny kit catches fishermen, not 
fish. Fish eat anything - when talking about bait on the boat onece, one 
chap said his PB had been caught on...a chewit!  I am convinced that hen 
fish wabnt to eat they eat. It's when they are half hearted that they need 
tempting I guess, and even then they seem to be catholic - lures, worms, 
jellies, poppers anbd so on.

I'd love my own little boat so I can pop out more frequently (im in 
salisbury) and test my own pet ideas and get real practice) but I don't have 
one so I'm happy to charter or shore fish.

I don't regard my self as an "angler", that's insulting to anglers - I'm 
just a chap who likes to catch fish sometimes. But I do take it seriously 
when I do go out - I'm not happy with a no-bite day and hate to lose the 
fish because I havemnt done my homework - i.e. if I end up fishing where 
there simply won't be fish.

I enjoy it though, and the mor so because of the great teaching some people 
have given me. I want to do more beach work this year (this week looks good) 
and some more boat work too.

My son (he's 9) is loving it too, when school allows. He caught three big 
salmon - had to hold him in the boat when he fought them in - and is quite a 
good little river fisherman. He's too small really for the shore, but like 
all kids, he enjoys emulating dad (so empty hooks are great news for him!!).

I still need a decent kit bag to lug my reels and knives and stuff round, 
and I'd love to try fly fishing, but all in good time.

If anyone wants a partner sometime...email me.

Thats me guys. Thanks for all the input over the year...it aint over yet.


David

Hi David
Thanks for the update, very interesting and if you aren't an angler then 
neither am I and neither are the rest of this n.g. so don't put your self 
down.
Re a good tackle bag ,I use a ruck sack. Padded back and a waist strap to 
stop it bouncing about when I walk.
A well fitted 'sack makes a heavy load seem indescribably ( big word for an 
angler) light.

Dont be shy.
Pack all your kit and a bit of clothing into a bag or 3 and go to Millets.
Tell them thet you want a 'sack "to take this lot".
Pack a few different types, get them on your back and give them a try..
Make sure that the smelly things - hand towel, bait box, knife etc. are 
clean tho'.
You dont need the luxury of a metal frame - and it corrodes but make sure 
that it has a well padded back and that your large flat bits and bobs box 
( a B&Q multi compartment screw box thing) is the first thing in, at the 
back.
You will have two free hands, no aching shoulders or back and will ba able 
to walk for miles if the urge takes you.
Tight lines
Keith M

"david"  wrote in message 
news:ddo694$oa8$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...

> Okay, to fill in where I'm at after last year or so.
>
> I started fishing with my son last year, a complete know-nothing. I was 
> actually slightly scared of fish - crtainly didn't want to touch one and 
> NO WAYstick my fingers behind it's oppercula! Ahgg!!!
>
> Anyway, my son soon made me start touching fish, but I still had no idea 
> about fish9ing.
>
> Derek, from this group, very kindly took me out one evening to start 
> showing me the ropes of sea fishing - I'm sure he couldn't quite believe 
> how ignorant a chap could be. I recall I actually squirmed when I tried to 
> grab the first fish we landed - a tiddling smelt or something. I grabbed 
> it and dropped it. trerrified in truth.
>
> But I listened to hat he aid aND started doing the good stuff. Then I went 
> out my elf to Hengistbury and caught a smallish bass off the beach...woo! 
> I was hooked. pardon the phrase.  I even held it. It was released.
>
> Then I went out with my son and we caught a few 1 - 2 lb trout for the 
> pan. Very nice and satisfying.
>
> Then I booked a trip on Electric Blue with Rob Thompson and went out for 
> anything.  Over several trips I boated bass, 5lb pollock, Huss and a few 
> gurnard. The digs got off but the eatables were eaten.
>
> My sea fishing skills were quite competent and growing.
>
> My best to date i the salmon thouigh.
>
> We now have a few rods and reels, though I usually sea fish with the 
> second hand carp rod I bought for 28 locally (new last year it went for 
> 200. What do these carp boys smoke???). I still use simple reels though, 
> no multipliers - because the boat I go on has better rods and reels than I 
> could justify, simple as that.
>
> I have learned a lot though in a year - shiny kit catches fishermen, not 
> fish. Fish eat anything - when talking about bait on the boat onece, one 
> chap said his PB had been caught on...a chewit!  I am convinced that hen 
> fish wabnt to eat they eat. It's when they are half hearted that they need 
> tempting I guess, and even then they seem to be catholic - lures, worms, 
> jellies, poppers anbd so on.
>
> I'd love my own little boat so I can pop out more frequently (im in 
> salisbury) and test my own pet ideas and get real practice) but I don't 
> have one so I'm happy to charter or shore fish.
>
> I don't regard my self as an "angler", that's insulting to anglers - I'm 
> just a chap who likes to catch fish sometimes. But I do take it seriously 
> when I do go out - I'm not happy with a no-bite day and hate to lose the 
> fish because I havemnt done my homework - i.e. if I end up fishing where 
> there simply won't be fish.
>
> I enjoy it though, and the mor so because of the great teaching some 
> people have given me. I want to do more beach work this year (this week 
> looks good) and some more boat work too.
>
> My son (he's 9) is loving it too, when school allows. He caught three big 
> salmon - had to hold him in the boat when he fought them in - and is quite 
> a good little river fisherman. He's too small really for the shore, but 
> like all kids, he enjoys emulating dad (so empty hooks are great news for 
> him!!).
>
> I still need a decent kit bag to lug my reels and knives and stuff round, 
> and I'd love to try fly fishing, but all in good time.
>
> If anyone wants a partner sometime...email me.
>
> Thats me guys. Thanks for all the input over the year...it aint over yet.
>
>
> David
> 

In article <ddqrb3$6rd$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, Keith M
<URL:mailto:keith@moxham7.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi David

> Re a good tackle bag ,I use a ruck sack. Padded back and a waist strap to 
> stop it bouncing about when I walk.
> A well fitted 'sack makes a heavy load seem indescribably ( big word for an 
> angler) light.


Snip sound advice, but leave as much as possible of the kit at home - that
way you have more room for the catch ;-)


> "david"  wrote in message 
> news:ddo694$oa8$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
> > Okay, to fill in where I'm at after last year or so.

> > how ignorant a chap could be. I recall I actually squirmed when I tried to 
> > grab the first fish we landed - a tiddling smelt or something. I grabbed 
> > it and dropped it. trerrified in truth.


The fish wasn't too chuffed either...


> > But I listened to hat he aid aND started doing the good stuff. Then I went


Unsolicited testimonials!  My favourite kind (apart from strawberry.)


> > I don't regard my self as an "angler", that's insulting to anglers - I'm


By now you're an angler.
 

> > My son (he's 9) is loving it too, when school allows. He caught three big 
> > salmon - had to hold him in the boat when he fought them in - and is quite 
> > a good little river fisherman. He's too small really for the shore, but 
> > like all kids, he enjoys emulating dad (so empty hooks are great news for 
> > him!!).


Not really too small.  Give him a spinning rod no longer than twice his
shoulder height, some 8lb line and a selection of spinners and let him
wade and spin along any of the safer Dorset beaches (NOT chesil.  Have to be
pebble/graunchy to avoid swimmers this month.)

Cheerio,

-- 

>> derek.moody@clara.net

Thanks all for the advice.  I'll do that. Both!

One thing I left out that I did buy was the Mustad waterproofs. I paid 60 
for braced trousers and a big jacket - very warm, very dry, very big.  I 
thought it was a bargain to be honest and they are fantastic for boat 
fishing. Got mine from a shop in the poole area.

David
"Derek.Moody"  wrote in message 
news:ant1523226d2BxcK@half-baked-idea.co.uk...

> In article <ddqrb3$6rd$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, Keith M
> <URL:mailto:keith@moxham7.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> Hi David
>
>> Re a good tackle bag ,I use a ruck sack. Padded back and a waist strap to
>> stop it bouncing about when I walk.
>> A well fitted 'sack makes a heavy load seem indescribably ( big word for 
>> an
>> angler) light.
>
> Snip sound advice, but leave as much as possible of the kit at home - that
> way you have more room for the catch ;-)
>
>> "david"  wrote in message
>> news:ddo694$oa8$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>> > Okay, to fill in where I'm at after last year or so.
>
>> > how ignorant a chap could be. I recall I actually squirmed when I tried 
>> > to
>> > grab the first fish we landed - a tiddling smelt or something. I 
>> > grabbed
>> > it and dropped it. trerrified in truth.
>
> The fish wasn't too chuffed either...
>
>> > But I listened to hat he aid aND started doing the good stuff. Then I 
>> > went
>
> Unsolicited testimonials!  My favourite kind (apart from strawberry.)
>
>> > I don't regard my self as an "angler", that's insulting to anglers - 
>> > I'm
>
> By now you're an angler.
>
>> > My son (he's 9) is loving it too, when school allows. He caught three 
>> > big
>> > salmon - had to hold him in the boat when he fought them in - and is 
>> > quite
>> > a good little river fisherman. He's too small really for the shore, but
>> > like all kids, he enjoys emulating dad (so empty hooks are great news 
>> > for
>> > him!!).
>
> Not really too small.  Give him a spinning rod no longer than twice his
> shoulder height, some 8lb line and a selection of spinners and let him
> wade and spin along any of the safer Dorset beaches (NOT chesil.  Have to 
> be
> pebble/graunchy to avoid swimmers this month.)
>
> Cheerio,
>
> -- 
>>> derek.moody@clara.net
> 

Those suits are brilliant, the're slightly cheaper up here in the North West
though, around 40.00 a set Anyone wanting a matching Mustad Surf Ruck Sack,
Mustad Cool Bag and Mustad Rod Holdall & Rig Wallet totaly free can get a
chance this month, they are up for grabs in this months prize draw at
www.castandcatch.com.


Pete



"david"  wrote in message
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> Thanks all for the advice.  I'll do that. Both!
>
> One thing I left out that I did buy was the Mustad waterproofs. I paid 60
> for braced trousers and a big jacket - very warm, very dry, very big.  I
> thought it was a bargain to be honest and they are fantastic for boat
> fishing. Got mine from a shop in the poole area.
>
> David
> "Derek.Moody"  wrote in message
> news:ant1523226d2BxcK@half-baked-idea.co.uk...
> > In article <ddqrb3$6rd$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, Keith M
> > <URL:mailto:keith@moxham7.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >> Hi David
> >
> >> Re a good tackle bag ,I use a ruck sack. Padded back and a waist strap
to
> >> stop it bouncing about when I walk.
> >> A well fitted 'sack makes a heavy load seem indescribably ( big word
for
> >> an
> >> angler) light.
> >
> > Snip sound advice, but leave as much as possible of the kit at home -
that
> > way you have more room for the catch ;-)
> >
> >> "david"  wrote in message
> >> news:ddo694$oa8$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
> >> > Okay, to fill in where I'm at after last year or so.
> >
> >> > how ignorant a chap could be. I recall I actually squirmed when I
tried
> >> > to
> >> > grab the first fish we landed - a tiddling smelt or something. I
> >> > grabbed
> >> > it and dropped it. trerrified in truth.
> >
> > The fish wasn't too chuffed either...
> >
> >> > But I listened to hat he aid aND started doing the good stuff. Then I
> >> > went
> >
> > Unsolicited testimonials!  My favourite kind (apart from strawberry.)
> >
> >> > I don't regard my self as an "angler", that's insulting to anglers -
> >> > I'm
> >
> > By now you're an angler.
> >
> >> > My son (he's 9) is loving it too, when school allows. He caught three
> >> > big
> >> > salmon - had to hold him in the boat when he fought them in - and is
> >> > quite
> >> > a good little river fisherman. He's too small really for the shore,
but
> >> > like all kids, he enjoys emulating dad (so empty hooks are great news
> >> > for
> >> > him!!).
> >
> > Not really too small.  Give him a spinning rod no longer than twice his
> > shoulder height, some 8lb line and a selection of spinners and let him
> > wade and spin along any of the safer Dorset beaches (NOT chesil.  Have
to
> > be
> > pebble/graunchy to avoid swimmers this month.)
> >
> > Cheerio,
> >
> > -- 
> >>> derek.moody@clara.net
> >
>
>

"Derek.Moody"  wrote in message 
news:ant1523226d2BxcK@half-baked-idea.co.uk...

> In article <ddqrb3$6rd$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, Keith M
> <URL:mailto:keith@moxham7.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> Hi David
>
>> Re a good tackle bag ,I use a ruck sack. Padded back and a waist strap to
>> stop it bouncing about when I walk.
>> A well fitted 'sack makes a heavy load seem indescribably ( big word for 
>> an
>> angler) light.
>
> Snip sound advice, but leave as much as possible of the kit at home - that
> way you have more room for the catch ;-)
>


<snip>

IMHO you can't go wrong with a Shakespeare beta box with a Breakaway seatbox 
conversion.

http://www.veals.co.uk/acatalog/Veals_Catalogue_Tackle_Boxes_69.html
http://www.breakaway-tackle.co.uk/shop/product.asp?numRecordPosition=6&P_ID=143&strPageHistory=&strKeywords=&SearchFor=&PT_ID=71

I've used one for the past 10 years or so and they are brilliant.

You can load them up with enough gear for an all night winter cod session 
complete with thermos and grub ;-)

The conversion kit allows the box to be worn on your back and is 
surprisingly comfortable - even when fully loaded.

Once on the beach you pop up the back of the seat part and sit on the box 
with a comfy back rest.

Inside there is a shelf with holes in so you can store your leads & tools. 
Under the lid there are a couple of bungee clips to hold multiplier reels.

A good tip with this setup is to get hold of a couple of bungees so you can 
strap your waterproofs onto the lid so you don't boil yourself on the way to 
the venue.

Cheers - ETV

Eric/ Anyone interested.
I gave the Beta Box  and back rest combo a lot of thought.
'Cos I have a bad neck I noticed that most anglers sit on their boxes (as 
you might expect) but they have their heads tilted upwards loking at the rod 
tip.

This is a most un-comfortable long term position and at the same time it is 
NOT good for the neck.

Instead I use a lightweight metal framed folding  canvas / nylon seat and 
back chair which has a high enough back to support the head..
(This is not to be confused with the fold into a bag, nylon jointed type of 
chair).
On the beach I can dig in the back leg (the back legs are a continuous item 
forming an inverted flat bottomed U (and the front ones are the same) into 
the sand / shingle to achieve a super comfortable semi reclined position, no 
stress, no neck ache and I've been known to nod off.
Light and easy to carry, no probs.
A bonus is that you don't have to get up off the box to get out the next 
trace / whatever cos its all in yous 'sac right beside you.
I also bought a Shakespear "Beach Buddy"   but gave that up as too big, 
heavy and clumsy after I saw and bought a small open fronted bivvy with 
fitted ground sheet. ( you see them now with the Leeder badge but look in 
any camping shop @ about a tenner.
4 of 5 Tesco carrier bags full of sand / shingle and nothing moves it!
And you can leave the full bags for the next guy to use.

Sorry tht this post so so long
Tight Lines
Keith M



"Eric The Viking"  wrote in message 
news:4303c8b8.0@entanet...

>
> "Derek.Moody"  wrote in message 
> news:ant1523226d2BxcK@half-baked-idea.co.uk...
>> In article <ddqrb3$6rd$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, Keith M
>> <URL:mailto:keith@moxham7.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Hi David
>>
>>> Re a good tackle bag ,I use a ruck sack. Padded back and a waist strap 
>>> to
>>> stop it bouncing about when I walk.
>>> A well fitted 'sack makes a heavy load seem indescribably ( big word for 
>>> an
>>> angler) light.
>>
>> Snip sound advice, but leave as much as possible of the kit at home - 
>> that
>> way you have more room for the catch ;-)
>>
>
> <snip>
>
> IMHO you can't go wrong with a Shakespeare beta box with a Breakaway 
> seatbox conversion.
>
> http://www.veals.co.uk/acatalog/Veals_Catalogue_Tackle_Boxes_69.html
> http://www.breakaway-tackle.co.uk/shop/product.asp?numRecordPosition=6&P_ID=143&strPageHistory=&strKeywords=&SearchFor=&PT_ID=71
>
> I've used one for the past 10 years or so and they are brilliant.
>
> You can load them up with enough gear for an all night winter cod session 
> complete with thermos and grub ;-)
>
> The conversion kit allows the box to be worn on your back and is 
> surprisingly comfortable - even when fully loaded.
>
> Once on the beach you pop up the back of the seat part and sit on the box 
> with a comfy back rest.
>
> Inside there is a shelf with holes in so you can store your leads & tools. 
> Under the lid there are a couple of bungee clips to hold multiplier reels.
>
> A good tip with this setup is to get hold of a couple of bungees so you 
> can strap your waterproofs onto the lid so you don't boil yourself on the 
> way to the venue.
>
> Cheers - ETV
>
> 

"Keith M"  wrote in message 
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> Eric/ Anyone interested.
> I gave the Beta Box  and back rest combo a lot of thought.
> 'Cos I have a bad neck I noticed that most anglers sit on their boxes (as 
> you might expect) but they have their heads tilted upwards loking at the 
> rod tip.
>
> This is a most un-comfortable long term position and at the same time it 
> is NOT good for the neck.


Depends where you fish I suppose.  I spend a lot of time on Chesil in 
Dorset,  where the beach is shingle you can dig the box in at a backwards 
angle - you just sit back and you're looking at your rod tip.  When it's 
calm you can have the rods at a lower angle too so your looking straight at 
the tip and not up to it.


> Instead I use a lightweight metal framed folding  canvas / nylon seat and

<snip>

> I also bought a Shakespear "Beach Buddy"   but gave that up as too big, 
> heavy and clumsy after I saw and bought a small open fronted bivvy with 
> fitted ground sheet. ( you see them now with the Leeder badge but look in 
> any camping shop @ about a tenner.
> 4 of 5 Tesco carrier bags full of sand / shingle and nothing moves it!
> And you can leave the full bags for the next guy to use.
>

<snip>

Takes different strokes ;-)  I also swear by beach buddies,  though mine is 
an original "John Holden" - cost 125.00 six or seven years ago and was 
worth every penny!  It is a bit bulky and heavy but I have a large rod bag 
and once its slotted in there I don't really notice the extra weight.

Mind you all this talk of seat boxes and beach buddies is really hardcore 
winter cod fishing stuff - better not wish away the remainder of the summer 
;-)

ETV

Talking of winter cod fishin, time to stock up on those disposable barbies 
from Tesco.
Nice toasty Beach Buddies etc. (once they are lit and have stopped smokin')
Use a bit of common by standing them on sand / shingle and remember they get 
a bit hot so dont try pickin them up with naked fingers!
Keith M
"Eric The Viking"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Keith M"  wrote in message 
> news:de2ocd$76o$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...
>> Eric/ Anyone interested.
>> I gave the Beta Box  and back rest combo a lot of thought.
>> 'Cos I have a bad neck I noticed that most anglers sit on their boxes (as 
>> you might expect) but they have their heads tilted upwards loking at the 
>> rod tip.
>>
>> This is a most un-comfortable long term position and at the same time it 
>> is NOT good for the neck.
>
> Depends where you fish I suppose.  I spend a lot of time on Chesil in 
> Dorset,  where the beach is shingle you can dig the box in at a backwards 
> angle - you just sit back and you're looking at your rod tip.  When it's 
> calm you can have the rods at a lower angle too so your looking straight 
> at the tip and not up to it.
>
>> Instead I use a lightweight metal framed folding  canvas / nylon seat and
>
> <snip>
>
>> I also bought a Shakespear "Beach Buddy"   but gave that up as too big, 
>> heavy and clumsy after I saw and bought a small open fronted bivvy with 
>> fitted ground sheet. ( you see them now with the Leeder badge but look in 
>> any camping shop @ about a tenner.
>> 4 of 5 Tesco carrier bags full of sand / shingle and nothing moves it!
>> And you can leave the full bags for the next guy to use.
>>
> <snip>
>
> Takes different strokes ;-)  I also swear by beach buddies,  though mine 
> is an original "John Holden" - cost 125.00 six or seven years ago and was 
> worth every penny!  It is a bit bulky and heavy but I have a large rod bag 
> and once its slotted in there I don't really notice the extra weight.
>
> Mind you all this talk of seat boxes and beach buddies is really hardcore 
> winter cod fishing stuff - better not wish away the remainder of the 
> summer ;-)
>
> ETV
> 

"Keith M"  wrote in message 
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> Talking of winter cod fishin, time to stock up on those disposable barbies 
> from Tesco.
> Nice toasty Beach Buddies etc. (once they are lit and have stopped 
> smokin')
> Use a bit of common by standing them on sand / shingle and remember they 
> get a bit hot so dont try pickin them up with naked fingers!
> Keith M


<snip>

Have you ever tried to boil a kettle on a disposable barbie?  Might be handy 
for the winter if it worked...

ETV

Can't say that I have, they have a slow heat ideal for cooking raw meat 
right thro' wothout burning the outside and leacing the moddle raw.
Keith M
"Eric The Viking"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Keith M"  wrote in message 
> news:de5fio$g6h$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
>> Talking of winter cod fishin, time to stock up on those disposable 
>> barbies from Tesco.
>> Nice toasty Beach Buddies etc. (once they are lit and have stopped 
>> smokin')
>> Use a bit of common by standing them on sand / shingle and remember they 
>> get a bit hot so dont try pickin them up with naked fingers!
>> Keith M
>
> <snip>
>
> Have you ever tried to boil a kettle on a disposable barbie?  Might be 
> handy for the winter if it worked...
>
> ETV
> 

David
More info on Hexi stove again please - sounds interesting.

Good luck with the 'sac and I hope it's big enought to carry your fish as 
well.

If Eric says the barbie is a bit slow to boil a kettle then it is,  but who 
cares if they have a flask in any case.

 The barbie keeps the Bivvy warm especialy of you take a small bag of extra 
charcoal with you and a drop of lighting fluid.just in case.

Always read the instructions and don't use the fluid inside the Bivvy

Some fool will do it of course and then complain like fury when the 
ambulance arrives.

Keith M
"david"  wrote in message 
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> Not sure whether the question re boiling kettles means the barbies will or 
> wont do it, but the small army style "hexy" stoves will!  They are small 
> and neat, can be used in a hole so the wind wont affect them and they 
> leave no ash or charcol.  Wont cook fish though, only tuff in a pan or a 
> kettle. Hmm...kettle of fish?
>
> I saw a rucksac the other day for a tenner, big enough for reels and bait 
> etc, so as per previous suggestions I bought one.  Be using it tomorrow if 
> the weather is good.
>
> Here's hoping for fishies.
>
> david
>
> David
> "Keith M"  wrote in message 
> news:de80fb$6q1$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
>> Can't say that I have, they have a slow heat ideal for cooking raw meat 
>> right thro' wothout burning the outside and leacing the moddle raw.
>> Keith M
>> "Eric The Viking"  wrote in message 
>> news:4306478a.0@entanet...
>>>
>>> "Keith M"  wrote in message 
>>> news:de5fio$g6h$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
>>>> Talking of winter cod fishin, time to stock up on those disposable 
>>>> barbies from Tesco.
>>>> Nice toasty Beach Buddies etc. (once they are lit and have stopped 
>>>> smokin')
>>>> Use a bit of common by standing them on sand / shingle and remember 
>>>> they get a bit hot so dont try pickin them up with naked fingers!
>>>> Keith M
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> Have you ever tried to boil a kettle on a disposable barbie?  Might be 
>>> handy for the winter if it worked...
>>>
>>> ETV
>>>
>>
>>
>
> 

Actually I was asking if it was possible to boil a kettle on a BBQ - never 
tried it myself ;-)

I usually carry a Coleman petrol stove to the beach for long sessions - the 
thought of a disposable BBQ struck me as a good idea for knocking up burgers 
& bacon butties.  If you could boil a kettle on it it would be a bonus.  The 
BBQ would be light to carry too.  Don't get me wrong the Coleman is great 
but is a bit on the heavy side - plus you don't get that "chargrilled" 
flavour off it - more like "Unleaded " flavour ;-)

Have used Hexi stoves for camping trips years ago - as David says they are 
excellent for knocking up a quick brew.  Also good for heating beans or soup 
in billy cans.  Hexi stoves are made of thin pressed steel and are slightly 
smaller than a VHS tape when folded.  They run on solid fuel blocks like 
fire-lighters ( which are stored inside the folded stove ).  When you want a 
brew you unfold the stove,  pop a couple of fuel blocks in and light it.

ETV

"Keith M"  wrote in message 
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> David
> More info on Hexi stove again please - sounds interesting.
>
> Good luck with the 'sac and I hope it's big enought to carry your fish as 
> well.
>
> If Eric says the barbie is a bit slow to boil a kettle then it is,  but 
> who cares if they have a flask in any case.
>
> The barbie keeps the Bivvy warm especialy of you take a small bag of extra 
> charcoal with you and a drop of lighting fluid.just in case.
>
> Always read the instructions and don't use the fluid inside the Bivvy
>
> Some fool will do it of course and then complain like fury when the 
> ambulance arrives.
>
> Keith M
> "david"  wrote in message 
> news:defjas$e5d$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>> Not sure whether the question re boiling kettles means the barbies will 
>> or wont do it, but the small army style "hexy" stoves will!  They are 
>> small and neat, can be used in a hole so the wind wont affect them and 
>> they leave no ash or charcol.  Wont cook fish though, only tuff in a pan 
>> or a kettle. Hmm...kettle of fish?
>>
>> I saw a rucksac the other day for a tenner, big enough for reels and bait 
>> etc, so as per previous suggestions I bought one.  Be using it tomorrow 
>> if the weather is good.
>>
>> Here's hoping for fishies.
>>
>> david
>>
>> David
>> "Keith M"  wrote in message 
>> news:de80fb$6q1$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
>>> Can't say that I have, they have a slow heat ideal for cooking raw meat 
>>> right thro' wothout burning the outside and leacing the moddle raw.
>>> Keith M
>>> "Eric The Viking"  wrote in message 
>>> news:4306478a.0@entanet...
>>>>
>>>> "Keith M"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:de5fio$g6h$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
>>>>> Talking of winter cod fishin, time to stock up on those disposable 
>>>>> barbies from Tesco.
>>>>> Nice toasty Beach Buddies etc. (once they are lit and have stopped 
>>>>> smokin')
>>>>> Use a bit of common by standing them on sand / shingle and remember 
>>>>> they get a bit hot so dont try pickin them up with naked fingers!
>>>>> Keith M
>>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>> Have you ever tried to boil a kettle on a disposable barbie?  Might be 
>>>> handy for the winter if it worked...
>>>>
>>>> ETV
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> 

Eric
Appologies for mis-reading your ?
I can't tell you if any good for kettle boiling as the only kettle we have 
is electric with a plastic body - not a good idea.and I would also loose 
fishing points if the Fishin Permit Manager caught me trying!
I do know that for cooking it is a bit slow but at least the food is cooked 
through ( as mentioned before) hence suggestion to take a bag of "higher 
octane" charcoal to put on once alight and white.
Now thay you've mentioned bacon butties I can feel the munchies coming on - 
got to go before I dribble all over the keyboard.
Tight Lines
Keith M

"Eric The Viking"  wrote in message 
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> Actually I was asking if it was possible to boil a kettle on a BBQ - never 
> tried it myself ;-)
>
> I usually carry a Coleman petrol stove to the beach for long sessions - 
> the thought of a disposable BBQ struck me as a good idea for knocking up 
> burgers & bacon butties.  If you could boil a kettle on it it would be a 
> bonus.  The BBQ would be light to carry too.  Don't get me wrong the 
> Coleman is great but is a bit on the heavy side - plus you don't get that 
> "chargrilled" flavour off it - more like "Unleaded " flavour ;-)
>
> Have used Hexi stoves for camping trips years ago - as David says they are 
> excellent for knocking up a quick brew.  Also good for heating beans or 
> soup in billy cans.  Hexi stoves are made of thin pressed steel and are 
> slightly smaller than a VHS tape when folded.  They run on solid fuel 
> blocks like fire-lighters ( which are stored inside the folded stove ). 
> When you want a brew you unfold the stove,  pop a couple of fuel blocks in 
> and light it.
>
> ETV
>
> "Keith M"  wrote in message 
> news:deg0p7$5i3$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
>> David
>> More info on Hexi stove again please - sounds interesting.
>>
>> Good luck with the 'sac and I hope it's big enought to carry your fish as 
>> well.
>>
>> If Eric says the barbie is a bit slow to boil a kettle then it is,  but 
>> who cares if they have a flask in any case.
>>
>> The barbie keeps the Bivvy warm especialy of you take a small bag of 
>> extra charcoal with you and a drop of lighting fluid.just in case.
>>
>> Always read the instructions and don't use the fluid inside the Bivvy
>>
>> Some fool will do it of course and then complain like fury when the 
>> ambulance arrives.
>>
>> Keith M
>> "david"  wrote in message 
>> news:defjas$e5d$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>>> Not sure whether the question re boiling kettles means the barbies will 
>>> or wont do it, but the small army style "hexy" stoves will!  They are 
>>> small and neat, can be used in a hole so the wind wont affect them and 
>>> they leave no ash or charcol.  Wont cook fish though, only tuff in a pan 
>>> or a kettle. Hmm...kettle of fish?
>>>
>>> I saw a rucksac the other day for a tenner, big enough for reels and 
>>> bait etc, so as per previous suggestions I bought one.  Be using it 
>>> tomorrow if the weather is good.
>>>
>>> Here's hoping for fishies.
>>>
>>> david
>>>
>>> David
>>> "Keith M"  wrote in message 
>>> news:de80fb$6q1$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
>>>> Can't say that I have, they have a slow heat ideal for cooking raw meat 
>>>> right thro' wothout burning the outside and leacing the moddle raw.
>>>> Keith M
>>>> "Eric The Viking"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:4306478a.0@entanet...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Keith M"  wrote in message 
>>>>> news:de5fio$g6h$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
>>>>>> Talking of winter cod fishin, time to stock up on those disposable 
>>>>>> barbies from Tesco.
>>>>>> Nice toasty Beach Buddies etc. (once they are lit and have stopped 
>>>>>> smokin')
>>>>>> Use a bit of common by standing them on sand / shingle and remember 
>>>>>> they get a bit hot so dont try pickin them up with naked fingers!
>>>>>> Keith M
>>>>>
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you ever tried to boil a kettle on a disposable barbie?  Might be 
>>>>> handy for the winter if it worked...
>>>>>
>>>>> ETV
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> 

Not sure whether the question re boiling kettles means the barbies will or 
wont do it, but the small army style "hexy" stoves will!  They are small and 
neat, can be used in a hole so the wind wont affect them and they leave no 
ash or charcol.  Wont cook fish though, only tuff in a pan or a kettle. 
Hmm...kettle of fish?

I saw a rucksac the other day for a tenner, big enough for reels and bait 
etc, so as per previous suggestions I bought one.  Be using it tomorrow if 
the weather is good.

Here's hoping for fishies.

david

David
"Keith M"  wrote in message 
news:de80fb$6q1$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...

> Can't say that I have, they have a slow heat ideal for cooking raw meat 
> right thro' wothout burning the outside and leacing the moddle raw.
> Keith M
> "Eric The Viking"  wrote in message 
> news:4306478a.0@entanet...
>>
>> "Keith M"  wrote in message 
>> news:de5fio$g6h$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
>>> Talking of winter cod fishin, time to stock up on those disposable 
>>> barbies from Tesco.
>>> Nice toasty Beach Buddies etc. (once they are lit and have stopped 
>>> smokin')
>>> Use a bit of common by standing them on sand / shingle and remember they 
>>> get a bit hot so dont try pickin them up with naked fingers!
>>> Keith M
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> Have you ever tried to boil a kettle on a disposable barbie?  Might be 
>> handy for the winter if it worked...
>>
>> ETV
>>
>
>