Ho hum, after the last big service the local garage advised that the 
rear shoes were on their way out (fair enough at 120k) and the rear 
cylinders need doing at the same time. Unfortunately they quoted 210 
quid for the work!! I've decided to do it myself, but I have a couple of 
queries...

Looking on brakeparts.co.uk and eurocarparts.com there seems to be a lot 
of brake manufacturers doing the same parts eg Girling/Bendix etc. Does 
it matter which ones I get, and if it does, can I tell which ones I need 
before I take the hubs off? Total part cost should be about 50-60 quid, 
which puts the quote into perspective.

Does the group recommend replacing the hub nuts?

Anybody got any general tips for doing the work? It looks pretty simple.

-- 
Mike Buckley
RD350LC2
GSF600S
http://www.toastyhamster.org
BONY#38

"mike. buckley"  wrote in message 
news:O2eDLga+me+CFwgx@toastyhamster.freeserve.co.uk...


> Looking on brakeparts.co.uk and eurocarparts.com there seems to be a lot 
> of brake manufacturers doing the same parts eg Girling/Bendix etc. Does it 
> matter which ones I get, and if it does, can I tell which ones I need 
> before I take the hubs off? Total part cost should be about 50-60 quid, 
> which puts the quote into perspective.


Are the back brakes on 306s as variable as the fronts? Friends with them 
have had all sorts of jollies trying to get the right front brake bits since 
there were so many different sorts.

cheers,
clive

find out how long it will take toorder the various parts depending on make
remove your components
take them to the supplier
tell them to order you the right ones
wait
fit
bed in
:)

"mike. buckley"  wrote in message 
news:O2eDLga+me+CFwgx@toastyhamster.freeserve.co.uk...

> Ho hum, after the last big service the local garage advised that the rear 
> shoes were on their way out (fair enough at 120k) and the rear cylinders 
> need doing at the same time. Unfortunately they quoted 210 quid for the 
> work!! I've decided to do it myself, but I have a couple of queries...
>
> Looking on brakeparts.co.uk and eurocarparts.com there seems to be a lot 
> of brake manufacturers doing the same parts eg Girling/Bendix etc. Does it 
> matter which ones I get, and if it does, can I tell which ones I need 
> before I take the hubs off? Total part cost should be about 50-60 quid, 
> which puts the quote into perspective.
>
> Does the group recommend replacing the hub nuts?
>
> Anybody got any general tips for doing the work? It looks pretty simple.
>
> -- 
> Mike Buckley
> RD350LC2
> GSF600S
> http://www.toastyhamster.org
> BONY#38 

In message <ddcv55$r2u$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>, dojj 
 writes

>find out how long it will take toorder the various parts depending on make
>remove your components
>take them to the supplier
>tell them to order you the right ones
>wait
>fit
>bed in
>:)



I was thinking of ordering over the Net, making "taking it to the 
supplier" a bit of a problem. Supply time not a problem as I have 
alternative transport.

-- 
Mike Buckley
RD350LC2
GSF600S
http://www.toastyhamster.org
BONY#38

"mike. buckley"  wrote in message 
news:s4xr43bBRg+CFwl8@toastyhamster.freeserve.co.uk...

> In message <ddcv55$r2u$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>, dojj 
>  writes
>>find out how long it will take toorder the various parts depending on make
>>remove your components
>>take them to the supplier
>>tell them to order you the right ones
>>wait
>>fit
>>bed in
>>:)
>
>
> I was thinking of ordering over the Net, making "taking it to the 
> supplier" a bit of a problem. Supply time not a problem as I have 
> alternative transport.
>

how will you know you have ordered the correct parts then?
i've found out the hard way that you should really pull apart what you need 
to replace in order to find out which make you need to order
in your case it may just be a matter of removing the drums and things are 
fine, but in some cases the bit's and bobs that go with it don't 
interconnect when you substitue a bendix for a girling cylinder for example


> -- 
> Mike Buckley
> RD350LC2
> GSF600S
> http://www.toastyhamster.org
> BONY#38 

In message <ddd2i6$5e1$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, dojj 
 writes

>
>"mike. buckley"  wrote in message
>news:s4xr43bBRg+CFwl8@toastyhamster.freeserve.co.uk...
>> In message <ddcv55$r2u$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>, dojj
>>  writes
>>>find out how long it will take toorder the various parts depending on make
>>>remove your components
>>>take them to the supplier
>>>tell them to order you the right ones
>>>wait
>>>fit
>>>bed in
>>>:)
>>
>>
>> I was thinking of ordering over the Net, making "taking it to the
>> supplier" a bit of a problem. Supply time not a problem as I have
>> alternative transport.
>>
>how will you know you have ordered the correct parts then?
>i've found out the hard way that you should really pull apart what you need
>to replace in order to find out which make you need to order
>in your case it may just be a matter of removing the drums and things are
>fine, but in some cases the bit's and bobs that go with it don't
>interconnect when you substitue a bendix for a girling cylinder for example
>


Well part of my question was "is there a difference?", for all I knew, 
Bendix and Girling might have been interchangeable. This sounds like I 
will have to strip one side of the brakes and take a trip to Halfrauds 
and pay extra for the privilege. At least part of my question has been 
answered. As part of the service the lip was ground off the drums, so I 
shouldn't be struggling to take them off, assuming I have a correct 
sized socket.

Thanks for the answers so far.

-- 
Mike Buckley
RD350LC2
GSF600S
http://www.toastyhamster.org
BONY#38

mike. buckley wrote:

> Ho hum, after the last big service the local garage advised that the
> rear shoes were on their way out (fair enough at 120k) and the rear
> cylinders need doing at the same time. Unfortunately they quoted 210
> quid for the work!! I've decided to do it myself, but I have a couple of
> queries...
>
> Looking on brakeparts.co.uk and eurocarparts.com there seems to be a lot
> of brake manufacturers doing the same parts eg Girling/Bendix etc. Does
> it matter which ones I get, and if it does, can I tell which ones I need
> before I take the hubs off? Total part cost should be about 50-60 quid,
> which puts the quote into perspective.
>
> Does the group recommend replacing the hub nuts?
>
> Anybody got any general tips for doing the work? It looks pretty simple.
>
> --
> Mike Buckley
> RD350LC2
> GSF600S
> http://www.toastyhamster.org
> BONY#38


Hi,
I guess I will have to replace my 306's rear brakes at some point. The
Haynes book says that you should replace the hub nuts, ( although mine
look as if they have been used at least twice...) it's typical, if you
want somthing doing properly do it yourself! Are you sure they need
doing, the front pads on mine seem to be lasting very well, it is a
light car after all. There does not seem to be a way to check the shoes
though. Oh BTW the haynes book also says that you can poke a
screwdriver in there to hold the shoes together incase there is a lip
on the drum.. Might as well replace drum as well ?

Simon

srp@lycos.co.uk (srp@lycos.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they 
were saying :


> Oh BTW the haynes book also says that you can poke a
> screwdriver in there to hold the shoes together incase there is a lip
> on the drum.. Might as well replace drum as well ?


My local CitFixer just lobs the drums in the lathe to give them a quick 
clean and remove the lip.

Of course, this presupposes that you have a lathe, but "Every Gentleman 
should own a Lathe".

<I can't find the origin of that quote - anybody?>

"Adrian"  wrote in message 
news:Xns96AEB2C103E85adrianachapmanfreeis@204.153.244.170...

> srp@lycos.co.uk (srp@lycos.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
> were saying :
>
>> Oh BTW the haynes book also says that you can poke a
>> screwdriver in there to hold the shoes together incase there is a lip
>> on the drum.. Might as well replace drum as well ?
>
> My local CitFixer just lobs the drums in the lathe to give them a quick
> clean and remove the lip.
>
> Of course, this presupposes that you have a lathe, but "Every Gentleman
> should own a Lathe".
>
> <I can't find the origin of that quote - anybody?>


I would, but I seem to be struggling to find a lathe in the first place :(

Adrian wrote:

> srp@lycos.co.uk (srp@lycos.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
> were saying :
>
> > Oh BTW the haynes book also says that you can poke a
> > screwdriver in there to hold the shoes together incase there is a lip
> > on the drum.. Might as well replace drum as well ?
>
> My local CitFixer just lobs the drums in the lathe to give them a quick
> clean and remove the lip.
>
> Of course, this presupposes that you have a lathe, but "Every Gentleman
> should own a Lathe".
>
> <I can't find the origin of that quote - anybody?>


well this should be all the excuse I need to get a lathe in my living
room then ;)