I'm going to look at this T5 tomorrow:

http://tinyurl.com/79be9

Can anyone advise me of the foibles particular to this car (I believe Mr. 
Kemp is acquainted with this particular vehicle). I've asked several 
questions. All sounds good so far. Cambelt has been done and seller has a 
receipt for it. Only bad points I'm aware of so far are: slight wear to 
leather on outside edge of driver's seat (expected this), couple of small 
scuffs on bumper, couple of minor dents. I can see one of the dents from 
some photos sent via email - right at the front edge of the bonnet and 
about the size of a golf ball. He says it's the worst one. He's also 
emailed me the photo from autotrader, but this copy is much clearer and 
sharper, and I can't spot any flaws on that particular side (not holding my 
breath just yet though). Stonechips not bad at all, according to what I've 
been told.

What about the price? Is it too steep or is it worth it if a genuine car, 
bearing in mind that it's a T5 and only has average miles (most are high) 
etc? I haven't asked if it's ex-police because I would expect it to have at 
least 150k on it by now. Rest assured, I'll check the first owner on the 
logbook, though. Is it worth getting it HPI checked if I decide I want it?

-- 
Stuart Sharp

Stu  wrote:


> I'm going to look at this T5 tomorrow:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/79be9


It's a lot of money for an 8 year old car.
-- 
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http://www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - MZ ETZ300 - Alfa 75 TSpark
Alfa 156 2.0 TSpark Lusso - Passat 1.8 Turbo SE -  COSOC KOTL
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Stu  wrote:


> steve@italiancar.co.uk (SteveH) wrote in news:1h0zu17.kccrf26j6l6sN%
> steve@italiancar.co.uk:
> 
> > Stu  wrote:
> > 
> >> I'm going to look at this T5 tomorrow:
> >> 
> >> http://tinyurl.com/79be9
> > 
> > It's a lot of money for an 8 year old car.
> 
> Agreed. Difficult to drop on a manual (which I'd prefer in my heart of
> hearts) T5 with reasonable mileage, though. Have always fancied one and
> kept my eye out for a couple of years. Vast majority are autos with high
> miles. Many are ex-police. I'll probably go for it if the condition's
> right. Parkers set the value at 3030.


Parkers is never right.

If you can get it for around 2500, I suppose it's not a bad purchase.
-- 
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http://www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - MZ ETZ300 - Alfa 75 TSpark
Alfa 156 2.0 TSpark Lusso - Passat 1.8 Turbo SE -  COSOC KOTL
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steve@italiancar.co.uk (SteveH) wrote in news:1h0zvnt.tlb4g915x8xaxN%
steve@italiancar.co.uk:


> Stu  wrote:
> 
>> steve@italiancar.co.uk (SteveH) wrote in news:1h0zu17.kccrf26j6l6sN%
>> steve@italiancar.co.uk:
>> 
>> > Stu  wrote:
>> > 
>> >> I'm going to look at this T5 tomorrow:
>> >> 
>> >> http://tinyurl.com/79be9
>> > 
>> > It's a lot of money for an 8 year old car.
>> 
>> Agreed. Difficult to drop on a manual (which I'd prefer in my heart of
>> hearts) T5 with reasonable mileage, though. Have always fancied one 
and
>> kept my eye out for a couple of years. Vast majority are autos with 
high
>> miles. Many are ex-police. I'll probably go for it if the condition's
>> right. Parkers set the value at 3030.
> 
> Parkers is never right.
> 
> If you can get it for around 2500, I suppose it's not a bad purchase.


I've never spotted a decent one that cheap, honest. Look on autotrader. 
Some ones at same price and 2 years younger but higher miles and 
obviously ex-police. The next cheapest one in the country is 3500, with 
same spec and age but higher miles. A decent 5 series of similar age and 
performance would cost a fair bit more, I'm sure.

-- 
Stuart Sharp

"Stu"  wrote in message
news:Xns96ACD7C8F99E8nobodyhomecom@216.196.109.144...

> Agreed. Difficult to drop on a manual (which I'd prefer in my heart of
> hearts) T5 with reasonable mileage, though. Have always fancied one and
> kept my eye out for a couple of years. Vast majority are autos with high
> miles. Many are ex-police. I'll probably go for it if the condition's
> right. Parkers set the value at 3030.


Wouldn't worry too much about the mileage, as long as it's been looked
after. Opinion is polarised on ex-police vehicles though. Personally I'd buy
one if they left the blue lights in, and let me use them    :o)

How about an 850 T5? Slightly boxier and less fashionable (probably should
be even less fashionable, being a Volvo) precursor to the S/V70. Quite a few
knocking round on Auto Trader for under two grand.

"SteveH"  wrote in message
news:1h0zu17.kccrf26j6l6sN%steve@italiancar.co.uk...

> Stu  wrote:
>
> > I'm going to look at this T5 tomorrow:
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/79be9
>
> It's a lot of money for an 8 year old car.



No, its not bad money for the mileage and more desireable colour, as long as
its SE or CD spec. Advert doesnt say.

If its an S, find another.

Tim..

"Tim.."  wrote in
news:dd8rvn$m1s$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com: 


> 
> "SteveH"  wrote in message
> news:1h0zu17.kccrf26j6l6sN%steve@italiancar.co.uk...
>> Stu  wrote:
>>
>> > I'm going to look at this T5 tomorrow:
>> >
>> > http://tinyurl.com/79be9
>>
>> It's a lot of money for an 8 year old car.
> 
> 
> No, its not bad money for the mileage and more desireable colour, as
> long as its SE or CD spec. Advert doesnt say.
> 
> If its an S, find another.
> 
> Tim..
> 

Not sure but it does have aircon, spoiler, fogs and full leather. That 
pretty much covers what I want. Heated seats will go nicely with leather, 
they're standard, aren't they? CD changer too, but that may have been a 
retrofit, don't know yet.
Don't know how much more a CD or SE has to offer, the only thing I'd 
fancy is cruise, but it's a manual and that's worth more to me than any 
electrical gadget. Not much oppurtunity to use cruise these days, anyway, 
with the motorways busy at all times except through the night.



-- 
Stuart Sharp

Stu (nobody@home.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying : 


> Reason I don't want an ex-police one is because
> of this scenario: Mr Plod is sitting in a layby in his cold engined
> T5. Sees a car blast past at 120mph. Starts up and sets off in
> pursuit. Now, as he needs to accelerate bloody quickly if he's gonna
> catch that car, and as the T5 pursuit car doesn't belong to him
> anyway, he canes the nuts off the cold engine in order to catch up
> ASAP Poor engine! That's why I don't want one.


Do you really think that Mr Plod is sat in the layby with a cold engine?

Of course he isn't.

Adrian  wrote in 
news:Xns96AD6112F7CB9adrianachapmanfreeis@204.153.244.170:


> Stu (nobody@home.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
> saying : 
> 
>> Reason I don't want an ex-police one is because
>> of this scenario: Mr Plod is sitting in a layby in his cold engined
>> T5. Sees a car blast past at 120mph. Starts up and sets off in
>> pursuit. Now, as he needs to accelerate bloody quickly if he's gonna
>> catch that car, and as the T5 pursuit car doesn't belong to him
>> anyway, he canes the nuts off the cold engine in order to catch up
>> ASAP Poor engine! That's why I don't want one.
> 
> Do you really think that Mr Plod is sat in the layby with a cold engine?
> 
> Of course he isn't.
> 

That means he's coking it up by leaving it idling all day. I'm sure it gets 
cold when he's not sat in it, like immediately before he has to jump in and 
respond to an emergency.


-- 
Stuart Sharp

Stu (nobody@home.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying : 


>>> Reason I don't want an ex-police one is because
>>> of this scenario: Mr Plod is sitting in a layby in his cold engined
>>> T5. Sees a car blast past at 120mph. Starts up and sets off in
>>> pursuit. Now, as he needs to accelerate bloody quickly if he's gonna
>>> catch that car, and as the T5 pursuit car doesn't belong to him
>>> anyway, he canes the nuts off the cold engine in order to catch up
>>> ASAP Poor engine! That's why I don't want one.

>> Do you really think that Mr Plod is sat in the layby with a cold
>> engine? 
>> 
>> Of course he isn't.

> That means he's coking it up by leaving it idling all day.

Eh?

> I'm sure it gets cold when he's not sat in it, like immediately before he 
> has to jump in and respond to an emergency.


They very rarely "sit there". They're usually out patrolling. Besides, it 
takes a damn sight longer than even half an hour sat for an engine to drop 
from working temperature to "cold".

Adrian  wrote in
news:Xns96ADA8FC57768adrianachapmanfreeis@204.153.244.170: 


> Stu (nobody@home.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
> saying : 
> 
>>>> Reason I don't want an ex-police one is because
>>>> of this scenario: Mr Plod is sitting in a layby in his cold engined
>>>> T5. Sees a car blast past at 120mph. Starts up and sets off in
>>>> pursuit. Now, as he needs to accelerate bloody quickly if he's
>>>> gonna catch that car, and as the T5 pursuit car doesn't belong to
>>>> him anyway, he canes the nuts off the cold engine in order to catch
>>>> up ASAP Poor engine! That's why I don't want one.
> 
>>> Do you really think that Mr Plod is sat in the layby with a cold
>>> engine? 
>>> 
>>> Of course he isn't.
> 
>> That means he's coking it up by leaving it idling all day.
> 
> Eh?


To be fair, that's not really a valid point, as any build up of deposits 
from long idling periods would soon get burnt away by the hard driving 
that ensued.

> 
>> I'm sure it gets cold when he's not sat in it, like immediately
>> before he has to jump in and respond to an emergency.
> 
> They very rarely "sit there". They're usually out patrolling. Besides,
> it takes a damn sight longer than even half an hour sat for an engine
> to drop from working temperature to "cold".
> 

Even so, I'm not convinced that ex-police is the best choice for me. I 
appreciate your opinion, though ;-)



-- 
Stuart Sharp

Stu (nobody@home.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying 
:


> Even so, I'm not convinced that ex-police is the best choice for me.


Don't get me wrong - I wouldn't have an ex-plodmobile if you paid me...

>>
> That means he's coking it up by leaving it idling all day. I'm sure it 
> gets
> cold when he's not sat in it, like immediately before he has to jump in 
> and
> respond to an emergency.


Traffic police rarely do this, a mate of a mate was an ex plod mechanic and 
said that one of the things to watch out for is suspension damage on all ex 
plod cars as they get bounced over kerbs and speed humps, down dirt tracks 
and alike.

How reliable this is I don't know.... All I know is Chinese whispers of 
don't be and ex plod focus TDCi...


Tom

The message 
from Stu  contains these words:


> >> That means he's coking it up by leaving it idling all day.
> > 
> > Eh?

> To be fair, that's not really a valid point, as any build up of deposits 
> from long idling periods would soon get burnt away by the hard driving 
> that ensued.


And anyway, modern fuel injection systems aren't anything like as prone
to it as old caburetted engines.

-- 
Skipweasel.
Ivor Cutler - "Never knowingly understood."

"Stu"  wrote in message
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> Adrian  wrote in
> news:Xns96ADA8FC57768adrianachapmanfreeis@204.153.244.170:
>
> > Stu (nobody@home.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
> > saying :
> >
> >>>> Reason I don't want an ex-police one is because
> >>>> of this scenario: Mr Plod is sitting in a layby in his cold engined
> >>>> T5. Sees a car blast past at 120mph. Starts up and sets off in
> >>>> pursuit. Now, as he needs to accelerate bloody quickly if he's
> >>>> gonna catch that car, and as the T5 pursuit car doesn't belong to
> >>>> him anyway, he canes the nuts off the cold engine in order to catch
> >>>> up ASAP Poor engine! That's why I don't want one.
> >
> >>> Do you really think that Mr Plod is sat in the layby with a cold
> >>> engine?
> >>>
> >>> Of course he isn't.
> >
> >> That means he's coking it up by leaving it idling all day.
> >
> > Eh?
>
> To be fair, that's not really a valid point, as any build up of deposits
> from long idling periods would soon get burnt away by the hard driving
> that ensued.
> >
> >> I'm sure it gets cold when he's not sat in it, like immediately
> >> before he has to jump in and respond to an emergency.
> >
> > They very rarely "sit there". They're usually out patrolling. Besides,
> > it takes a damn sight longer than even half an hour sat for an engine
> > to drop from working temperature to "cold".
> >
> Even so, I'm not convinced that ex-police is the best choice for me. I
> appreciate your opinion, though ;-)


Ex police cars I've seen in the past, have been built to police
specifications. Meaning some features std on cars sold to the general public
were not fitted in order to make them cheaper.
Dunno whether that still applies to more recent ex police cars.
Mike.

"Tom Burton"  wrote in
news:Zd5Ke.1058$4y6.38@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net: 


> 
>>>
>> That means he's coking it up by leaving it idling all day. I'm sure
>> it gets
>> cold when he's not sat in it, like immediately before he has to jump
>> in and
>> respond to an emergency.
> 
> Traffic police rarely do this, a mate of a mate was an ex plod
> mechanic and said that one of the things to watch out for is
> suspension damage on all ex plod cars as they get bounced over kerbs
> and speed humps, down dirt tracks and alike.
> 
> How reliable this is I don't know.... All I know is Chinese whispers
> of don't be and ex plod focus TDCi...
> 
> 

The thing about it that puts me off is the fact that the only people saying 
how good and well maintained they are are the people who sell them. Ask one 
of the actual people who have driven them (i.e. police officers) and they 
tell you not to touch them with a barge pole!


-- 
Stuart Sharp

Stu wrote:

> I'm going to look at this T5 tomorrow:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/79be9
>
> Can anyone advise me of the foibles particular to this car (I believe
> Mr. Kemp is acquainted with this particular vehicle


Well thank you!

Grey in and grey out - bit grey don't you think?

Assuming its a manual just watch for clutch abuse, if it's an auto look and 
see if the auto fluid has been changed, it needs to be (even though volvo 
say it doesn't).

it could probably do with a chip and a bigger turbo....

.... other than that if the general condition is OK and there's no signs of 
abuse and neglect then go for it!

Stu wrote:

> I've never spotted a decent one that cheap, honest. Look on
> autotrader. Some ones at same price and 2 years younger but higher
> miles and obviously ex-police. The next cheapest one in the country
> is 3500, with same spec and age but higher miles. A decent 5 series
> of similar age and performance would cost a fair bit more, I'm sure.


Also bear in mind that the far more modern S60 is hitting <5000 territory 
now


-- 
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Stu wrote:


> Thanks, Carl. General opinion seems that they're good for high
> mileages if cared for. Reason I don't want an ex-police one is
> because of this scenario: Mr Plod is sitting in a layby in his cold
> engined T5. Sees a car blast past at 120mph. Starts up and sets off
> in pursuit. Now, as he needs to accelerate bloody quickly if he's
> gonna catch that car, and as the T5 pursuit car doesn't belong to him
> anyway, he canes the nuts off the cold engine in order to catch up
> ASAP Poor engine! That's why I don't want one. Having said that, I
> bet plenty of privately owned ones have been treated similarly and
> I'd have no way of knowing unless it displayed obvious signs.



ex-dibble T5s tend to be OK, main reason for buying one is to mod it 
though - big turbo and nitrous is the way to go. You'd see, smell and feel a 
failing turbo pretty quickly.

-- 
re-configure the solar matrix in parallel for endothermic propulsion

Stu wrote:


> That means he's coking it up by leaving it idling all day. I'm sure
> it gets cold when he's not sat in it, like immediately before he has
> to jump in and respond to an emergency.


I think you're judging your engines by that of lesser cars...


-- 
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The message 
from Stu  contains these words:


>  Ask one 
> of the actual people who have driven them (i.e. police officers) and they 
> tell you not to touch them with a barge pole!


And what do they know about car maintenance?

-- 
Skipweasel.
Ivor Cutler - "Never knowingly understood."

Guy King  wrote:


> The message 
> from Stu  contains these words:
> 
> >  Ask one 
> > of the actual people who have driven them (i.e. police officers) and they
> > tell you not to touch them with a barge pole!
> 
> And what do they know about car maintenance?


That's not the point - they how how badly it's been driven.

If they were worth buying, don't you think police officers would buy
ex-police cars themselves?

The fact that they don't tells you all you need to know.
-- 
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http://www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - MZ ETZ300 - Alfa 75 TSpark
Alfa 156 2.0 TSpark Lusso - Passat 1.8 Turbo SE -  COSOC KOTL
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"Tim S Kemp"  wrote in
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> Stu wrote:
>> I'm going to look at this T5 tomorrow:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/79be9
>>
>> Can anyone advise me of the foibles particular to this car (I believe
>> Mr. Kemp is acquainted with this particular vehicle
> 
> Well thank you!
> 
> Grey in and grey out - bit grey don't you think?


Hides the dirt ;-) Seriously, beige leather easily easily gets scruffy. 
This car has excellent seats - in much better nick than my younger and 
far less used Primera.

> 
> Assuming its a manual just watch for clutch abuse, if it's an auto
> look and see if the auto fluid has been changed, it needs to be (even
> though volvo say it doesn't).


The clutch is very smooth to operate but engages rather sharply when 
letting it in after a gearchange. In this respect, it reminds my of the 
Ferraris I drove on one of those 'driving experience' days. I assume it's 
a sympton of bigger clutches that have to transmit more power and torque. 
No sign of abuse, though, quite soft to operate and bites at just the 
right point of the pedal travel.

> 
> it could probably do with a chip and a bigger turbo....


Seems brisk enough to me :-)

> 
> ... other than that if the general condition is OK and there's no
> signs of abuse and neglect then go for it!
> 
> 

To me it seemed in very good condition, would pass for a lot younger car, 
IMO. No obvious signs of abuse and service history is impeccable. Anyway, 
I've bought it now! See my new thread for more info :-)

Thanks



-- 
Stuart Sharp

steve@italiancar.co.uk (SteveH) wrote in
news:1h11sm7.18eroluxlf1zgN%steve@italiancar.co.uk: 


> Guy King  wrote:
> 
>> The message 
>> from Stu  contains these words:
>> 
>> >  Ask one 
>> > of the actual people who have driven them (i.e. police officers)
>> > and they tell you not to touch them with a barge pole!
>> 
>> And what do they know about car maintenance?
> 
> That's not the point - they how how badly it's been driven.
> 
> If they were worth buying, don't you think police officers would buy
> ex-police cars themselves?
> 
> The fact that they don't tells you all you need to know.


Agree with Steve, here. The maintenance is second to none, I'm not 
disputing that. However, they're not exactly pampered are they? The fact 
that many people find them good second hand buys is a testament to the 
strength and quality of the vehicle, IMHO. Perhaps the cars are just too 
tough for it to matter, but many people are put off by this harsher than 
usual treatment, including myself, if I'm being totally honest.

-- 
Stuart Sharp

On 09 Aug 2005 08:32:32 GMT, Adrian wrote:


> Stu (nobody@home.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
> saying : 
> 
>> Reason I don't want an ex-police one is because
>> of this scenario: Mr Plod is sitting in a layby in his cold engined
>> T5. Sees a car blast past at 120mph. Starts up and sets off in
>> pursuit. Now, as he needs to accelerate bloody quickly if he's gonna
>> catch that car, and as the T5 pursuit car doesn't belong to him
>> anyway, he canes the nuts off the cold engine in order to catch up
>> ASAP Poor engine! That's why I don't want one.
> 
> Do you really think that Mr Plod is sat in the layby with a cold engine?
> 
> Of course he isn't.


South Yorkshire used to dive into their T5's and rag them from cold
straight onto the motorway from Ecclesfield nick if there was a shout on.
The first thing to go was the turbo - it got so bad they eventually had
electric preheaters with quick disconnects keeping the coolant at 55C.

Chris Street  wrote:


> On 09 Aug 2005 08:32:32 GMT, Adrian wrote:
> 
> > Stu (nobody@home.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
> > saying : 
> > 
> >> Reason I don't want an ex-police one is because
> >> of this scenario: Mr Plod is sitting in a layby in his cold engined
> >> T5. Sees a car blast past at 120mph. Starts up and sets off in
> >> pursuit. Now, as he needs to accelerate bloody quickly if he's gonna
> >> catch that car, and as the T5 pursuit car doesn't belong to him
> >> anyway, he canes the nuts off the cold engine in order to catch up
> >> ASAP Poor engine! That's why I don't want one.
> > 
> > Do you really think that Mr Plod is sat in the layby with a cold engine?
> > 
> > Of course he isn't.
> 
> South Yorkshire used to dive into their T5's and rag them from cold
> straight onto the motorway from Ecclesfield nick if there was a shout on.
> The first thing to go was the turbo - it got so bad they eventually had
> electric preheaters with quick disconnects keeping the coolant at 55C.


How would that help? - you'd want the oil kept warm, not the coolant.
-- 
Steve H 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
http://www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - MZ ETZ300 - Alfa 75 TSpark
Alfa 156 2.0 TSpark Lusso - Passat 1.8 Turbo SE -  COSOC KOTL
BoTAFOT #87 - BoTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #

SteveH wrote:

> Chris Street  wrote:
>
>> On 09 Aug 2005 08:32:32 GMT, Adrian wrote:
>>
>>> Stu (nobody@home.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
>>> saying :
>>>
>>>> Reason I don't want an ex-police one is because
>>>> of this scenario: Mr Plod is sitting in a layby in his cold engined
>>>> T5. Sees a car blast past at 120mph. Starts up and sets off in
>>>> pursuit. Now, as he needs to accelerate bloody quickly if he's
>>>> gonna catch that car, and as the T5 pursuit car doesn't belong to
>>>> him anyway, he canes the nuts off the cold engine in order to
>>>> catch up ASAP Poor engine! That's why I don't want one.
>>>
>>> Do you really think that Mr Plod is sat in the layby with a cold
>>> engine?
>>>
>>> Of course he isn't.
>>
>> South Yorkshire used to dive into their T5's and rag them from cold
>> straight onto the motorway from Ecclesfield nick if there was a
>> shout on. The first thing to go was the turbo - it got so bad they
>> eventually had electric preheaters with quick disconnects keeping
>> the coolant at 55C.
>
> How would that help? - you'd want the oil kept warm, not the coolant.


The preheaters I've been involved with circulate the coolant (they nobble 
the stat too) which keeps the block and most of the rest 'warm enough' to 
avoid the vast majority of cold start wear.

OTOH, I was under the impression that due to shift working, traffic cars 
rarely stopped...

Stu wrote:

> 
> I'm going to look at this T5 tomorrow:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/79be9
> 
[...]
> 
> What about the price? Is it too steep or is it worth it if a genuine car,
> bearing in mind that it's a T5 and only has average miles (most are high)
> etc? I haven't asked if it's ex-police because I would expect it to have at
> least 150k on it by now. Rest assured, I'll check the first owner on the
> logbook, though. Is it worth getting it HPI checked if I decide I want it?


Of course it's always worth getting it HPI checked. Even if not stolen,
there could be outstanding finance. And do HPI yourself; the compensation
only goes to the client of the HPI check.

Johannes (johs@spam-gets-nowhere-sizefitter.com) gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying : 


>> What about the price? Is it too steep or is it worth it if a genuine
>> car, bearing in mind that it's a T5 and only has average miles (most
>> are high) etc? I haven't asked if it's ex-police because I would
>> expect it to have at least 150k on it by now. Rest assured, I'll
>> check the first owner on the logbook, though. Is it worth getting it
>> HPI checked if I decide I want it? 

> Of course it's always worth getting it HPI checked. Even if not
> stolen, there could be outstanding finance. And do HPI yourself; the
> compensation only goes to the client of the HPI check.


Wouldn't there be a delicious irony if it turned out to be stolen AND ex-
plod...?

Adrian wrote:

> 
> Johannes (johs@spam-gets-nowhere-sizefitter.com) gurgled happily,
> sounding much like they were saying :
> 
> >> What about the price? Is it too steep or is it worth it if a genuine
> >> car, bearing in mind that it's a T5 and only has average miles (most
> >> are high) etc? I haven't asked if it's ex-police because I would
> >> expect it to have at least 150k on it by now. Rest assured, I'll
> >> check the first owner on the logbook, though. Is it worth getting it
> >> HPI checked if I decide I want it?
> 
> > Of course it's always worth getting it HPI checked. Even if not
> > stolen, there could be outstanding finance. And do HPI yourself; the
> > compensation only goes to the client of the HPI check.
> 
> Wouldn't there be a delicious irony if it turned out to be stolen AND ex-
> plod...?


You sometimes see this kind of stuff on "wildest police videos" from US.

Adrian wrote:


> Wouldn't there be a delicious irony if it turned out to be stolen AND
> ex- plod...?


Even better if it were stolen FROM  plod...

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