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Penrith Car Boot   
I saw on TV that there is a regular car boot sale in Penrith Cattle
Market.

Anybody know more about it?
Date:6 Aug 2005 11:16:19 -0700   Author:  

Re: Penrith Car Boot   
On 6 Aug 2005 11:16:19 -0700, Roger wrote:


> I saw on TV that there is a regular car boot sale in Penrith Cattle
> Market.


More of an open market with traders than a pure boot sale the last 
time I went (a while back). Indeed I don't remember seeing much in the 
way of boot stuff at all. Isn't there some form of market on Saturday 
and Sunday there now?

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Dave.                                             pam is missing e-mail
Date:Sat, 06 Aug 2005 20:26:14 +0100 (BST)   Author:  

Re: Penrith Car Boot   
"Roger"  wrote in message 
news:1123352179.151407.168100@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

>I saw on TV that there is a regular car boot sale in Penrith Cattle
> Market.
>
> Anybody know more about it?
>

Oh yes. It's run by Spook Erection (who also run the hugely successful 
Ingliston Market near Edinburgh), and is both a car boot sale and a market. 
(I'm talking about the Saturday one here - I've never been on Sunday, though 
I gather there's another market then.)

The market is big, and has loads of stalls all the way round the outside of 
the cattle market, with a good variety of traders. The car boot sale is 
mostly inside the building, with each trader in their own pen, though when 
it's really busy it sometimes spreads into the outside pens as well. It's a 
long-estabalished car boot sale - so much so, that it's populated by many 
regulars who specialise in certain things: antiques; books; beany babies; 
CDs; electronic equipment; tools; toys; furniture; rusty old junk; you name 
it, someone there will be selling it.

It's probably the best market/car boot sale in this area, and well worth a 
visit. Car parking is free and well managed, although on busy days a queue 
can build up on the dual carriageway outside.

Having said all this, I was somewhat disappointed today when I went down to 
Penrith to recycle my plastics (Eden Recyling is only open on Saturday 
mornings) only to find that the cattle mart had been taken over by the 
annual PotFest (nothing to do with laid-back hippies) where, for 3, you 
could go inside and marvel over the work of over 100 talented ceramicists.

I went to Penrith's charity shops instead.

The market will be back to normal next week, though.

ally
Date:Sat, 6 Aug 2005 21:45:53 +0100   Author:  

Re: Penrith Car Boot   
On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 21:45:53 +0100, a l l y wrote:


> 
> "Roger"  wrote in message 
> news:1123352179.151407.168100@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>I saw on TV that there is a regular car boot sale in Penrith Cattle
>> Market.
>>
>> Anybody know more about it?
>>
> Oh yes. It's run by Spook Erection (who also run the hugely successful 
> Ingliston Market near Edinburgh), and is both a car boot sale and a market. 
> (I'm talking about the Saturday one here - I've never been on Sunday, though 
> I gather there's another market then.)
> 
> The market is big, and has loads of stalls all the way round the outside of 
> the cattle market, with a good variety of traders. The car boot sale is 
> mostly inside the building, with each trader in their own pen, though when 
> it's really busy it sometimes spreads into the outside pens as well. It's a 
> long-estabalished car boot sale - so much so, that it's populated by many 
> regulars who specialise in certain things: antiques; books; beany babies; 
> CDs; electronic equipment; tools; toys; furniture; rusty old junk; you name 
> it, someone there will be selling it.
> 
> It's probably the best market/car boot sale in this area, and well worth a 
> visit. Car parking is free and well managed, although on busy days a queue 
> can build up on the dual carriageway outside.
> 
> Having said all this, I was somewhat disappointed today when I went down to 
> Penrith to recycle my plastics (Eden Recyling is only open on Saturday 
> mornings) only to find that the cattle mart had been taken over by the 
> annual PotFest (nothing to do with laid-back hippies) where, for 3, you 
> could go inside and marvel over the work of over 100 talented ceramicists.
> 
> I went to Penrith's charity shops instead.
> 
> The market will be back to normal next week, though.
> 
> ally


I'm flabberghasted that you had to go all the way to Penrith from where
you live, to recycle your plastics! That's a lot of petrol! Surely the
council could set up a local supermarket deposit system for soft drinks
bottles (not to re-use, just to collect the waste in drop-boxes and
melt-down) or collect your poly-whatsit recyclables on your council tax,
which would cost you less.

I'm trying to find an alternative to Google earth (my 'puter doesn't like
it, to show you an aerial photo of our local landfill area, which is next
to a very busy recycling centre.

Jp
Date:Sat, 06 Aug 2005 20:39:35 -0400   Author:  

Re: Penrith Car Boot   
On Sat, 6 Aug 2005 21:45:53 +0100, a l l y wrote:


> I went down to Penrith to recycle my plastics (Eden Recyling is only 
> open on Saturday mornings)


Wots wrong with the cages at B&Q or Morrisons? They take plastic 
bottles and bags. Noticed a new cage at Morrisons the wother week, 
cartons as in juice/drinks.

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Dave.                                             pam is missing e-mail
Date:Sun, 07 Aug 2005 01:37:18 +0100 (BST)   Author:  

Recycling {Was: Penrith Car Boot}   
On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 20:39:35 -0400, Jpinny wrote:


> I'm flabberghasted that you had to go all the way to Penrith from 
> where you live, to recycle your plastics! That's a lot of petrol!


Diesel in my case and just over 20 miles, one way. Plastics recycling 
is a relatively new only in the last year or so. The "green box", that 
is emptied at the roadside, takes cans, bottles and paper, cardboard 
can be recycled down in the town just a couple of miles away.


> Surely the council could set up a local supermarket deposit system 
> for soft drinks bottles...


erm, Morrisons, Penrith, *is* the local supermarket, if you don't 
count the small Co-op in the town. Similar distances to Safeway, 
Hexham or Tesco Carlisle but I don't think they have plastics 
recycling.

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Cheers                                              new5pam@howhill.com
Dave.                                             pam is missing e-mail
Date:Sun, 07 Aug 2005 08:49:54 +0100 (BST)   Author:  

Re: Penrith Car Boot   
a l l y wrote:

> .................... only to find that the cattle mart had been taken
> over by the annual PotFest (nothing to do with laid-back hippies)
> where, for 3, you could go inside and marvel over the work of over
> 100 talented ceramicists. ally


Gi'ower.... 100 talented *ceramists* (no arguing now.... I hate the word as 
much as I do 'metal-detectorist', but that's the one you're looking for)  ;)

Anyway - 100??? Nay, mare like a couple dozen wi' a few more no' too 
bad...!!

Ye'll have t' get yersel' down t'Dalton more. We have nightly 'annual' 
PotFests in us local hostelry. ;)

Kez. . .
Date:Sun, 7 Aug 2005 09:49:02 +0100   Author:  

Re: Penrith Car Boot   
Jpinny wrote:

>
> I'm trying to find an alternative to Google earth (my 'puter doesn't
> like it, to show you an aerial photo of our local landfill area,
> which is next to a very busy recycling centre.
>
> Jp


Try http://www.googleearthhacks.com/downloads/ for some nice little 
tweaks....

I can understand how the US is favoured over my little cottage (although the 
street is highlighted and even named the houses aren't) but I have a 'High 
in the Sky' Cumbria aerial photography mapper which will suffice for now. It 
will be nice if I can get it to overlay.

Kez. . .
Date:Sun, 7 Aug 2005 10:02:06 +0100   Author:  

Re: Penrith Car Boot   
"Dirty Sanchez" <dirty_s@nchez> wrote in message
news:42f5cbef$1_3@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...

> a l l y wrote:
> > .................... only to find that the cattle mart had been taken
> > over by the annual PotFest (nothing to do with laid-back hippies)
> > where, for 3, you could go inside and marvel over the work of over
> > 100 talented ceramicists. ally
>
> Gi'ower.... 100 talented *ceramists* (no arguing now.... I hate the word
as
> much as I do 'metal-detectorist', but that's the one you're looking for)
;)
>
> Anyway - 100??? Nay, mare like a couple dozen wi' a few more no' too
> bad...!!
>
> Ye'll have t' get yersel' down t'Dalton more. We have nightly 'annual'
> PotFests in us local hostelry. ;)
>
> Kez. . .
>

Jisuskrimes. Pot fest. Do they keep them under the tent?

Edith missed em, thankgawd.
Date:Sun, 7 Aug 2005 13:15:15 +0200   Author:  

Re: Penrith Car Boot   
"Dirty Sanchez" <dirty_s@nchez> wrote in message
news:42f5ce2d$1_3@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...

> Jpinny wrote:
> >
> > I'm trying to find an alternative to Google earth (my 'puter doesn't
> > like it, to show you an aerial photo of our local landfill area,
> > which is next to a very busy recycling centre.
> >
> > Jp
>
> Try http://www.googleearthhacks.com/downloads/ for some nice little
> tweaks....
>
> I can understand how the US is favoured over my little cottage (although
the
> street is highlighted and even named the houses aren't) but I have a 'High
> in the Sky' Cumbria aerial photography mapper which will suffice for now.
It
> will be nice if I can get it to overlay.
>
> Kez. . .


We went to the Penrith Carboot sale. It was great. We took a short cut and
found it just as the last cardboard box was being loaded back into the back
of a station wagon. :0((((((((((((

Eduth. (I've decided to write my name the way it's pronounced)
Date:Sun, 7 Aug 2005 13:19:02 +0200   Author:  

Re: Penrith Car Boot   
"Roger"  wrote in message
news:1123352179.151407.168100@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

> I saw on TV that there is a regular car boot sale in Penrith Cattle
> Market.
>
> Anybody know more about it?


Hello Roger. We just missed it on Saturday gone. Closed at 4pm. Broke my
heart.

Edith.
Date:Sun, 7 Aug 2005 15:39:33 +0200   Author:  

Re: Recycling {Was: Penrith Car Boot}   
Dave Liquorice wrote:

> On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 20:39:35 -0400, Jpinny wrote:
> 
> 
>>I'm flabberghasted that you had to go all the way to Penrith from 
>>where you live, to recycle your plastics! That's a lot of petrol!
> 
> 
> Diesel in my case and just over 20 miles, one way. Plastics recycling 
> is a relatively new only in the last year or so. The "green box", that 
> is emptied at the roadside, takes cans, bottles and paper, cardboard 
> can be recycled down in the town just a couple of miles away.
> 
> 
>>Surely the council could set up a local supermarket deposit system 
>>for soft drinks bottles...
> 
> 
> erm, Morrisons, Penrith, *is* the local supermarket, if you don't 
> count the small Co-op in the town. Similar distances to Safeway, 
> Hexham or Tesco Carlisle but I don't think they have plastics 
> recycling.
> 



In Ally's case,  I'd have thought there would be some facility in 
Cockermouth, Maryport or Workington.

Jp
Date:Sun, 07 Aug 2005 09:53:17 -0400   Author:  

Re: Recycling {Was: Penrith Car Boot}   
"Jpinny"  wrote in message
news:hnoJe.25890$Kx6.9864@fe12.lga...

> Dave Liquorice wrote:
> > On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 20:39:35 -0400, Jpinny wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I'm flabberghasted that you had to go all the way to Penrith from
> >>where you live, to recycle your plastics! That's a lot of petrol!
> >
> >
> > Diesel in my case and just over 20 miles, one way. Plastics recycling
> > is a relatively new only in the last year or so. The "green box", that
> > is emptied at the roadside, takes cans, bottles and paper, cardboard
> > can be recycled down in the town just a couple of miles away.
> >
> >
> >>Surely the council could set up a local supermarket deposit system
> >>for soft drinks bottles...
> >
> >
> > erm, Morrisons, Penrith, *is* the local supermarket, if you don't
> > count the small Co-op in the town. Similar distances to Safeway,
> > Hexham or Tesco Carlisle but I don't think they have plastics
> > recycling.
>
> In Ally's case,  I'd have thought there would be some facility in
> Cockermouth, Maryport or Workington.
>
> Jp


Do you have to recicle your plastic yourself? Our rubbish car takes ours.

Edith with big question marks in her eyes.
Date:Sun, 7 Aug 2005 16:19:11 +0200   Author:  

Re: Recycling {Was: Penrith Car Boot}   
The Traveller wrote:

> "Jpinny"  wrote in message
> news:hnoJe.25890$Kx6.9864@fe12.lga...
> 
>>Dave Liquorice wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 20:39:35 -0400, Jpinny wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I'm flabberghasted that you had to go all the way to Penrith from
>>>>where you live, to recycle your plastics! That's a lot of petrol!
>>>
>>>
>>>Diesel in my case and just over 20 miles, one way. Plastics recycling
>>>is a relatively new only in the last year or so. The "green box", that
>>>is emptied at the roadside, takes cans, bottles and paper, cardboard
>>>can be recycled down in the town just a couple of miles away.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Surely the council could set up a local supermarket deposit system
>>>>for soft drinks bottles...
>>>
>>>
>>>erm, Morrisons, Penrith, *is* the local supermarket, if you don't
>>>count the small Co-op in the town. Similar distances to Safeway,
>>>Hexham or Tesco Carlisle but I don't think they have plastics
>>>recycling.
>>
>>In Ally's case,  I'd have thought there would be some facility in
>>Cockermouth, Maryport or Workington.
>>
>>Jp
> 
> 
> Do you have to recicle your plastic yourself? Our rubbish car takes ours.
> 
> Edith with big question marks in her eyes.
> 
>


In Cumbria it looks like they do. I don't.


Jp
Date:Sun, 07 Aug 2005 11:09:02 -0400   Author:  

Re: Penrith Car Boot   
"Dave Liquorice"  wrote in message 
news:nyyfbegfubjuvyypbz.iku7m60.pminews@news.howhill.com...

> On Sat, 6 Aug 2005 21:45:53 +0100, a l l y wrote:
>
>> I went down to Penrith to recycle my plastics (Eden Recyling is only
>> open on Saturday mornings)
>
> Wots wrong with the cages at B&Q or Morrisons? They take plastic
> bottles and bags. Noticed a new cage at Morrisons the wother week,
> cartons as in juice/drinks.
>

Well, for one thing they don't shout, "Hi Ally!" when I approach them, like 
they do at the depot. Nice, friendly people. I like to talk to them and see 
how things are done. For another thing, if you go to the depot you can bring 
big bags of mixed plastics - not just bottles and bags - as well as 
cardboard boxes, aluminium, tetrapacks (this'll be the thing that's appeared 
at Morrisons, I suppose), and the usual tins and bottles if you're so 
inclined.

ally
Date:Sun, 7 Aug 2005 17:13:42 +0100   Author:  

Re: Penrith Car Boot   
"Jpinny"  wrote in message 
news:pan.2005.08.07.00.39.33.718496@hotmail.com...

> On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 21:45:53 +0100, a l l y wrote:
>
> I'm flabberghasted that you had to go all the way to Penrith from where
> you live, to recycle your plastics! That's a lot of petrol! Surely the
> council could set up a local supermarket deposit system for soft drinks
> bottles (not to re-use, just to collect the waste in drop-boxes and
> melt-down) or collect your poly-whatsit recyclables on your council tax,
> which would cost you less.
>

Well, they are trying. After a lot of arm-twisting from Friends of the 
Earth, Allerdale council have finally got together with Smurfit Recycling at 
Workington, who have installed a big blue metal box in Tesco's carpark 
there. There are ultra-small, ultra-high slots sawed in this box and small 
people like me have to spend a lot of time standing on tiptoe pushing 
squashed bottles in. It's a start, I suppose, but they *only* take bottles, 
and the big 5 litre water bottles are almost impossible to get into those 
wee slots, however much you squash them.

We don't go to Penrith very often. We wait until the space under the back 
stair just won't take any more, and then we combine the recylcing with a 
trip to the car boot sale, which is why I was a bit disappointed this time. 
It'll be a couple of months before I've got enough plastic to warrant 
another visit, and I like my car boot sales!

So it's not really a lot of petrol. And even if the local council organised 
their plastic recyling properly, we'd still go to the car boot sale now and 
again, plastic or no plastic.

ally
Date:Sun, 7 Aug 2005 17:18:25 +0100   Author:  

Re: Recycling {Was: Penrith Car Boot}   
"The Traveller"  wrote in message >> Jp

>
> Do you have to recicle your plastic yourself? Our rubbish car takes ours.
>

Do they sort out all the recylcables at the depot, then? Or do you have to 
put different materials into different bins first?



> Edith with big question marks in her eyes.
>

Obviously too much gallivanting when you were here. Get some sleep lass!

ally
Date:Sun, 7 Aug 2005 17:20:19 +0100   Author:  

Re: Penrith Car Boot   
"The Traveller"  wrote in message >

> We went to the Penrith Carboot sale. It was great. We took a short cut and
> found it just as the last cardboard box was being loaded back into the 
> back
> of a station wagon. :0((((((((((((


I'd have given you directions if you'd asked. Ah, but would that have 
helped, I wonder.....?


>
> Eduth. (I've decided to write my name the way it's pronounced)
>

I thought the Norwegians said, "Edit"?

ally
Date:Sun, 7 Aug 2005 17:22:01 +0100   Author:  

Re: Penrith Car Boot   
"Dirty Sanchez" <dirty_s@nchez> wrote in message 
news:42f5cbef$1_3@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...

>
> Anyway - 100??? Nay, mare like a couple dozen wi' a few more no' too 
> bad...!!
>

According to this, there were over 150:
http://www.potfest.co.uk/potfestpens.htm


> Ye'll have t' get yersel' down t'Dalton more. We have nightly 'annual' 
> PotFests in us local hostelry. ;)
>

Sounds like it might be worth the journey...

ally
Date:Sun, 7 Aug 2005 17:24:54 +0100   Author:  

Re: Penrith Car Boot   
Never mind that. This is more important.
Had that little shite Cook stuck to fucking his wife, a doctor, he
might still be alive. What do you think? As far as I am concerned its
a case of another bent lying bastard bites the dust.

Mind you a great place to die!!!

Bill
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Spelling, grammer and syntax mistakes have been
put in so that arse holes like you have something
to complain about.
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Date:Sun, 07 Aug 2005 19:26:24 +0100   Author:  

Re: Recycling {Was: Penrith Car Boot}   
Never mind that. This is more important.
Had that little shite Cook stuck to fucking his wife, a doctor, he
might still be alive. What do you think? As far as I am concerned its
a case of another bent lying bastard bites the dust.

Mind you a great place to die!!!

Bill
-----------------------
Spelling, grammer and syntax mistakes have been
put in so that arse holes like you have something
to complain about.
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Date:Sun, 07 Aug 2005 19:26:27 +0100   Author:  

Re: Penrith Car Boot   
"a l l y"  wrote in message
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>
> "The Traveller"  wrote in message >
> > We went to the Penrith Carboot sale. It was great. We took a short cut
and
> > found it just as the last cardboard box was being loaded back into the
> > back
> > of a station wagon. :0((((((((((((
>
> I'd have given you directions if you'd asked. Ah, but would that have
> helped, I wonder.....?
>
> >
> > Eduth. (I've decided to write my name the way it's pronounced)
> >
> I thought the Norwegians said, "Edit"?
>
> ally


They say (Cumbrian E) ayeditt. It's awful.

Eduth watched and watched but she didn't see the Ospreys. Big
disappointment.
Date:Sun, 7 Aug 2005 21:11:08 +0200   Author:  

Re: Recycling {Was: Penrith Car Boot}   
"a l l y"  wrote in message
news:3lmqm4F12jg7lU1@individual.net...

>
> "The Traveller"  wrote in message >> Jp
> >
> > Do you have to recicle your plastic yourself? Our rubbish car takes
ours.
> >
> Do they sort out all the recylcables at the depot, then? Or do you have to
> put different materials into different bins first?


Different bins. One for ordinary  household rubbish anything made from
plastic, one for food in solid paper bags and one for paper. igloos for
coloured glass and igloos for clear glass and metal (small objects like the
lids of jam jars.) are placed all around town. The Council car takes
wood/garden plants-computers/washing machines/fridge etc once in a while and
bus collects paint etc at various points around the county a few times each
year. I have the dates somewhere.

> Obviously too much gallivanting when you were here. Get some sleep lass!
>
> ally


We were everywhere all at once. It was no good for my back but excellent for
my velvr.

Edith loves your garden.
Date:Sun, 7 Aug 2005 21:18:13 +0200   Author:  

Re: Penrith Car Boot   
"a l l y"  wrote in message
news:3lmqihF135e9jU1@individual.net...

>
> "Jpinny"  wrote in message
> news:pan.2005.08.07.00.39.33.718496@hotmail.com...
> > On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 21:45:53 +0100, a l l y wrote:
> >
> > I'm flabberghasted that you had to go all the way to Penrith from where
> > you live, to recycle your plastics! That's a lot of petrol! Surely the
> > council could set up a local supermarket deposit system for soft drinks
> > bottles (not to re-use, just to collect the waste in drop-boxes and
> > melt-down) or collect your poly-whatsit recyclables on your council tax,
> > which would cost you less.
> >
> Well, they are trying. After a lot of arm-twisting from Friends of the
> Earth, Allerdale council have finally got together with Smurfit Recycling
at
> Workington, who have installed a big blue metal box in Tesco's carpark
> there. There are ultra-small, ultra-high slots sawed in this box and small
> people like me have to spend a lot of time standing on tiptoe pushing
> squashed bottles in. It's a start, I suppose, but they *only* take
bottles,
> and the big 5 litre water bottles are almost impossible to get into those
> wee slots, however much you squash them.


We didn't know about it at all or we could have planned a trip. We just came
over it on our way back to lovely Tallentire.

Edith.
Date:Sun, 7 Aug 2005 21:20:25 +0200   Author:  

Re: Recycling {Was: Penrith Car Boot}   
"The Traveller"  wrote in message >

> Different bins. One for ordinary  household rubbish anything made from
> plastic, one for food in solid paper bags and one for paper. igloos for
> coloured glass and igloos for clear glass and metal (small objects like 
> the
> lids of jam jars.) are placed all around town. The Council car takes
> wood/garden plants-computers/washing machines/fridge etc once in a while 
> and
> bus collects paint etc at various points around the county a few times 
> each
> year. I have the dates somewhere.


Each place does it differently, I think. Here, the council supplies 3 bins 
to most households; one for normal rubbish, one for paper/cardboard and one 
for garden waste. (And woe betide you if you put something not from the 
garden in there - even if you know they can make perfectly good compost from 
it - like orange peel or teabags or something.) They have public bins in 
various car parks around the place for glass: white, brown and green/blue; 
also for tins (but not tin lids! Nowhere to recycle them!) and some for 
textiles. Plastics have been a sore point with us for ages, as there's so 
much of the stuff these days.

Edinburgh was one of the first places in Britain to undertake 
council-organised recycling. About 20 years ago I remember taking loads of 
paper, tins and bottles to the council depot, and even before that we used 
to take bundles of newspapers to the Scottish Friends of the Earth offices 
in the city centre.

>
> We were everywhere all at once. It was no good for my back but excellent 
> for
> my velvr.
>

Well. Jolly good.

(What the hell's a velvr?)


> Edith loves your garden.


Now I know you're off your trolley. But I'm really pleased there's someone 
out there who likes it. Feel free to continue.

ally
Date:Sun, 7 Aug 2005 21:38:21 +0100   Author:  

Re: Penrith Car Boot   
On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 17:13:42 +0100, a l l y wrote:


> For another thing, if you go to the depot you can bring big bags of 
> mixed plastics - not just bottles and bags 


The only "plastic" that goes to landfill from this house is anything 
metalicised, the test being if you scruch it up and it rapidly boings 
back to shape it's NFG for the plastic bags/films recycle bag. Also 
the plastic/foil peel off tops. Are you saying they will take that 
stuff at the Depot?


> tetrapacks (this'll be the thing that's appeared at Morrisons, I 
> suppose),


Aye, the cage had the word "carton" on it. Most people wouldn't know a 
Tetra Pak if it hit them over head.  B-)

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Dave.                                             pam is missing e-mail
Date:Sun, 07 Aug 2005 23:29:19 +0100 (BST)   Author:  

Re: Recycling {Was: Penrith Car Boot}   
On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 16:19:11 +0200, The Traveller wrote:


> Do you have to recicle your plastic yourself? Our rubbish car takes 
> ours.


The ordinary rubbish truck will take anything provided it's in a blue 
bag, has to be blue and council issued. But that goes straight to 
landfill no recycling or any processing.

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Dave.                                             pam is missing e-mail
Date:Sun, 07 Aug 2005 23:21:05 +0100 (BST)   Author:  

Re: Penrith Car Boot   
"Dave Liquorice"  wrote in message 
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> On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 17:13:42 +0100, a l l y wrote:
>
>> For another thing, if you go to the depot you can bring big bags of
>> mixed plastics - not just bottles and bags
>
> The only "plastic" that goes to landfill from this house is anything
> metalicised, the test being if you scruch it up and it rapidly boings
> back to shape it's NFG for the plastic bags/films recycle bag. Also
> the plastic/foil peel off tops. Are you saying they will take that
> stuff at the Depot?
>

They'll take anything plastic. It all goes to a processing plant somewhere 
in Lancs, so it doesn't have to travel far. My ambition now is to go to this 
place and see how it's done, because I, too, was surprised that they'll take 
mixed plastics. But they do.


>> tetrapacks (this'll be the thing that's appeared at Morrisons, I
>> suppose),
>
> Aye, the cage had the word "carton" on it. Most people wouldn't know a
> Tetra Pak if it hit them over head.  B-)
>

And wouldn't it be fun doing just that? :-))

ally
Date:Mon, 8 Aug 2005 00:17:54 +0100   Author:  

Re: Recycling {Was: Penrith Car Boot}   
a l l y wrote:
  (snip)


  They have public bins in

> various car parks around the place for glass: white, brown and green/blue; 
> also for tins (but not tin lids! Nowhere to recycle them!) and some for 
> textiles. Plastics have been a sore point with us for ages, as there's so 
> much of the stuff these days.
> 
> Edinburgh was one of the first places in Britain to undertake 
> council-organised recycling. About 20 years ago I remember taking loads of 
> paper, tins and bottles to the council depot, and even before that we used 
> to take bundles of newspapers to the Scottish Friends of the Earth offices 
> in the city centre.
> 
>>We were everywhere all at once. It was no good for my back but excellent 
>>for
>>my velvr.
>>
> 
> Well. Jolly good.
> 
> (What the hell's a velvr?)
> 
(snip)
> 
> ally 
> 
> 

Are you sure about the tin lids? Can't you just drop the lid into the 
tin.....?


Like you, Ally, I have no idea what a velvr is, but I'm hanging on her 
every word!


Jp
Date:Sun, 07 Aug 2005 20:57:54 -0400   Author:  

Re: Recycling {Was: Penrith Car Boot}   
"Jpinny"  wrote in message
news:n6yJe.12205$6%2.1962@fe10.lga...

> a l l y wrote:
>   (snip)
>
>
>   They have public bins in
> > various car parks around the place for glass: white, brown and
green/blue;
> > also for tins (but not tin lids! Nowhere to recycle them!) and some for
> > textiles. Plastics have been a sore point with us for ages, as there's
so
> > much of the stuff these days.
> >
> > Edinburgh was one of the first places in Britain to undertake
> > council-organised recycling. About 20 years ago I remember taking loads
of
> > paper, tins and bottles to the council depot, and even before that we
used
> > to take bundles of newspapers to the Scottish Friends of the Earth
offices
> > in the city centre.
> >
> >>We were everywhere all at once. It was no good for my back but excellent
> >>for
> >>my velvr.
> >>
> >
> > Well. Jolly good.
> >
> > (What the hell's a velvr?)
> >
> (snip)
> >
> > ally
> >
> >
> Are you sure about the tin lids? Can't you just drop the lid into the
> tin.....?


Yes. Metal and clear glass are in the same container, so in go the lids. -
if they are metal and not plastic.


> Like you, Ally, I have no idea what a velvr is, but I'm hanging on her
> every word!
>
> Jp


:)))))

Edith in none stop rainy weather.
Date:Mon, 8 Aug 2005 07:17:44 +0200   Author:  

Re: Penrith Car Boot   
"a l l y"  wrote in message
news:3lnj52F13g54bU1@individual.net...

>
> "Dave Liquorice"  wrote in message
> news:nyyfbegfubjuvyypbz.ikvwcv1.pminews@news.howhill.com...
> > On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 17:13:42 +0100, a l l y wrote:
> >
> >> For another thing, if you go to the depot you can bring big bags of
> >> mixed plastics - not just bottles and bags


I can see our depo from here. It's hiding behind some big old oak trees.

> >
> > The only "plastic" that goes to landfill from this house is anything
> > metalicised, the test being if you scruch it up and it rapidly boings
> > back to shape it's NFG for the plastic bags/films recycle bag. Also
> > the plastic/foil peel off tops. Are you saying they will take that
> > stuff at the Depot?
> >
> They'll take anything plastic. It all goes to a processing plant somewhere
> in Lancs, so it doesn't have to travel far. My ambition now is to go to
this
> place and see how it's done, because I, too, was surprised that they'll
take
> mixed plastics. But they do.
>
> >> tetrapacks (this'll be the thing that's appeared at Morrisons, I
> >> suppose),
> >
> > Aye, the cage had the word "carton" on it. Most people wouldn't know a
> > Tetra Pak if it hit them over head.  B-)


My son feeds his fish with tetra summet and I buy my milk in cartons. Will
we live?

> >
> And wouldn't it be fun doing just that? :-))
>
> ally


Living? Yes. I do that sometime.

Edith. (btw-Do those thin bags you get at supermarkets go under plastic or
paper?)

Someone told me it all gets dumped together in a big hole & we're fools to
think otherwise. ??
Date:Mon, 8 Aug 2005 07:25:59 +0200   Author:  

Re: Penrith Car Boot   
"The Traveller"  wrote in message 
news:9-SdnSyY2510cWvf4p2dnA@telenor.com...

>
> My son feeds his fish with tetra summet and I buy my milk in cartons. Will
> we live?
>> >

Yes. You and the fish.



>
> Edith. (btw-Do those thin bags you get at supermarkets go under plastic or
> paper?)
>

Plastic. But there's usually a separate place to recycle plastic carrier 
bags.


> Someone told me it all gets dumped together in a big hole & we're fools to
> think otherwise. ??
>

There's always one, isn't there? Even Norway has conspriracy theorists. Why 
would the council spend extra money on special collecting points and so on 
if they weren't going to follow through on their promise?

Next you'll be telling me that people have never walked on the moon; that 
Diana was murdered by the Queen; that Elvis is alive and working in a branch 
of McDonald's; that the Masons are responsible for all the world's evils; 
that the US government was behind 9/11; that the Holy Grail is buried under 
Rosslyn Chapel; that we should all beware of the numbers 17 and 23....

ally
(Now then... somebody is sure to pop up and say, "Yes, but item [n] on your 
list is, in fact, true...")
Date:Mon, 8 Aug 2005 10:42:59 +0100   Author:  

Re: Recycling {Was: Penrith Car Boot}   
"Jpinny"  wrote in message 
news:n6yJe.12205$6%2.1962@fe10.lga...

>>
>>
> Are you sure about the tin lids? Can't you just drop the lid into the 
> tin.....?
>

Well, I was thinking about the lids you get on jam jars, actually. It's many 
years since I've seen a tin with a lid, though I'm old enough to remember 
when Nescafe used to come in wee tins with lids. I suspect you can still get 
big catering tins of the stuff, but we don't use it so I'm no expert.

ally
Date:Mon, 8 Aug 2005 10:45:41 +0100   Author:  

Re: Recycling {Was: Penrith Car Boot}   
a l l y wrote:


> 
> Well, I was thinking about the lids you get on jam jars, actually. It's many 
> years since I've seen a tin with a lid, though I'm old enough to remember 
> when Nescafe used to come in wee tins with lids. I suspect you can still get 
> big catering tins of the stuff, but we don't use it so I'm no expert.
> 
> ally 
> 
> 

Wot! No beanz at Ally's house?

I was thinking about the metal lids of *cans*, that are cut open.  I 
keep my jam jars and lids, anyway, and make my own marmalade. Now I 
realise that you probably mean the plastic lids on metal cans. I don't 
remember them in Britain, as I usually bought my ground coffee in a bag 
or foil block, or as Instant in a glass jar with a plastic lid. I do 
remember that these jars and my Cadbury's Drinking Chocolate had a paper 
"membrane" seal over the mouth of the jar, which, as a child, I liked to 
burst with my spoon or finger.

Here on the left of the Pond, the regular container is a metal can, 
containing slightly under a pound or over two pounds. You have to cut or 
pull off the metal lid, but there is a plastic lid for storage. 
Recently, they've introduced plastic containers.

Jp
Date:Mon, 08 Aug 2005 07:39:20 -0400   Author:  

Re: Recycling {Was: Penrith Car Boot}   
"Jpinny"  wrote in message 
news:JvHJe.18639$_R1.12894@fe11.lga...

>a l l y wrote:
>
>>
>> Well, I was thinking about the lids you get on jam jars, actually. It's 
>> many years since I've seen a tin with a lid, though I'm old enough to 
>> remember when Nescafe used to come in wee tins with lids. I suspect you 
>> can still get big catering tins of the stuff, but we don't use it so I'm 
>> no expert.
>>
>> ally
> Wot! No beanz at Ally's house?
>
> I was thinking about the metal lids of *cans*, that are cut open.  I keep 
> my jam jars and lids, anyway, and make my own marmalade. Now I realise 
> that you probably mean the plastic lids on metal cans. I don't remember 
> them in Britain, as I usually bought my ground coffee in a bag or foil 
> block, or as Instant in a glass jar with a plastic lid. I do remember that 
> these jars and my Cadbury's Drinking Chocolate had a paper "membrane" seal 
> over the mouth of the jar, which, as a child, I liked to burst with my 
> spoon or finger.
>
> Here on the left of the Pond, the regular container is a metal can, 
> containing slightly under a pound or over two pounds. You have to cut or 
> pull off the metal lid, but there is a plastic lid for storage. Recently, 
> they've introduced plastic containers.
>
> Jp 
Date:Tue, 9 Aug 2005 00:04:09 +0100   Author:  

Re: Recycling {Was: Penrith Car Boot}   
"Jpinny"  wrote in message 
news:JvHJe.18639$_R1.12894@fe11.lga...

>>
>>
> Wot! No beanz at Ally's house?
>
> I was thinking about the metal lids of *cans*, that are cut open.


Aha! The penny drops. Well, yes, those sort of lids go back in the tins 
after I've washed them, though sometime I can't be bothered washing lids 
with sharp edges and they do go in the bin, while the tin itself, duly 
cleaned, goes in for recycling.



> I  keep my jam jars and lids, anyway, and make my own marmalade.


I used to make a lot of jam, but since I hardly eat the stuff myself, it 
takes Steve ages to get through what I make, so I dont' really bother these 
days... which is a pity, really, as we have so much fruit on the trees in 
the veg garden. If anyone out there wants some crab apples, rhubarb or small 
pears for jam making, and can offer me something worthwhile in return, 
perhaps we could do a deal.


>Now I  realise that you probably mean the plastic lids on metal cans.


No, I was thinking of tin lids on tin cans, but the sort of lids that can be 
taken off and replaced as often as you want. Nowadays they dont' seem to 
make tins like that: sometimes it's a cylindrical cardboard carton (like 
drinking choc ones, yes) with tin lids on top. Everybody had a graddad who 
used these useful tins for keeping nails and nuts & bolts in.

ally
Date:Tue, 9 Aug 2005 00:11:08 +0100   Author:  

Re: Recycling {Was: Penrith Car Boot}   
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 00:11:08 +0100, a l l y wrote:


> Well, yes, those sort of lids go back in the tins after I've washed 
> them, though sometime I can't be bothered washing lids with sharp 
> edges and they do go in the bin, while the tin itself, duly 
> cleaned, goes in for recycling.


You need a can opener that cuts under the lid seam not inside it. Lids 
don't have sharp edges then. Trouble is the can does and if it's one 
of the deep drawn type rather than a proper seamed lid on the base 
washing the can can be risky to the fingers. With a seamed base you 
just cut that off with the can opener leaving a tube that is easy to 
flush through with water and squish with your hands. Seams on the 
cylinder is not so easy to squish.


> No, I was thinking of tin lids on tin cans, but the sort of lids 
> that can be taken off and replaced as often as you want. Nowadays 
> they dont' seem to make tins like that: 


The only stuff I can think off that comes in a proper tin is Lyons 
Golden Syrup and treacle. Catering size instant coffee also has a tin 
lid but the body may well be cardboard.

-- 
Cheers                                              new5pam@howhill.com
Dave.                                             pam is missing e-mail
Date:Tue, 09 Aug 2005 09:18:26 +0100 (BST)   Author:  

Re: Recycling {Was: Penrith Car Boot}   
"Dave Liquorice"  wrote in message
news:nyyfbegfubjuvyypbz.ikyiaq0.pminews@news.howhill.com...

> On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 00:11:08 +0100, a l l y wrote:
>
> > Well, yes, those sort of lids go back in the tins after I've washed
> > them, though sometime I can't be bothered washing lids with sharp
> > edges and they do go in the bin, while the tin itself, duly
> > cleaned, goes in for recycling.
>
> You need a can opener that cuts under the lid seam not inside it. Lids
> don't have sharp edges then. Trouble is the can does and if it's one
> of the deep drawn type rather than a proper seamed lid on the base
> washing the can can be risky to the fingers. With a seamed base you
> just cut that off with the can opener leaving a tube that is easy to
> flush through with water and squish with your hands. Seams on the
> cylinder is not so easy to squish.
>
> > No, I was thinking of tin lids on tin cans, but the sort of lids
> > that can be taken off and replaced as often as you want. Nowadays
> > they dont' seem to make tins like that:
>
> The only stuff I can think off that comes in a proper tin is Lyons
> Golden Syrup and treacle. Catering size instant coffee also has a tin
> lid but the body may well be cardboard.
>
> --
> Cheers                                              new5pam@howhill.com
> Dave.                                             pam is missing e-mail


Jesus. What a bloody boring subject. Who started it?

Diving intut bunker!
Edith.
Date:Tue, 9 Aug 2005 13:17:57 +0200   Author:  

Re: Recycling {Was: Penrith Car Boot}   
"The Traveller"  wrote in message >

> Jesus. What a bloody boring subject. Who started it?
>


You know something, edUth? I agree with you!

ally
Date:Tue, 9 Aug 2005 12:45:12 +0100   Author:  

Re: Recycling {Was: Penrith Car Boot}   
a l l y wrote:

> "The Traveller"  wrote in message >
> 
>>Jesus. What a bloody boring subject. Who started it?
>>
> 
> 
> You know something, edUth? I agree with you!
> 
> ally 


zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

:-D))

Jp
Date:Tue, 09 Aug 2005 09:07:37 -0400   Author:  

Re: Recycling {Was: Penrith Car Boot}   
"Jpinny"  wrote in message
news:uU1Ke.27329$Kx6.508@fe12.lga...

> a l l y wrote:
> > "The Traveller"  wrote in message >
> >
> >>Jesus. What a bloody boring subject. Who started it?
> >>
> >
> >
> > You know something, edUth? I agree with you!
> >
> > ally
>
> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>
> :-D))
>
> Jp


:0))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) I think I started it actually
Bwaahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! oh rofl, scop me out.

Edith
Date:Tue, 9 Aug 2005 16:25:47 +0200   Author:  

Re: Penrith Car Boot   
a l l y wrote:

> "Dirty Sanchez" <dirty_s@nchez> wrote in message
> news:42f5cbef$1_3@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>>
>> Anyway - 100??? Nay, mare like a couple dozen wi' a few more no' too
>> bad...!!
>>
> According to this, there were over 150:
> http://www.potfest.co.uk/potfestpens.htm
>
>> Ye'll have t' get yersel' down t'Dalton more. We have nightly
>> 'annual' PotFests in us local hostelry. ;)
>>
> Sounds like it might be worth the journey...
>
> ally


It's certainly worth the walk back up that steep hill.... if I remember 
correctly ;)
Date:Wed, 10 Aug 2005 01:06:36 +0100   Author: