I got one of these a few weeks ago, and I think it's badly designed...

When it's giving out normal tap water it's too powerful.  Firstly I
wouldn't want to use a strong get to remove dirt from my car, and
secondly it splashes everywhere.  If I used it correctly I would splash
our houses windows, and my neighbours car.  Also if you're washing the
car in sections (as the instructions tell you) then you'll splash the
sections that have already been washed/dried.  The device it also too
big to get under the wheel arches etc., so a normal attachment is
required for a thorough wash.

The soapy water gives out far too much, and you have no control over
the flow, just an on/off switch.  A bucket is much better!  The soap
also leaves a horrible oily film over everything, which is a nightmare
when driving with the wipers on.  After a week with VERY heavy rain,
and another wash, most of the oil on the windscreen has gone, but it is
still on the rest of the car.  I'm not using the soap again.

The de-ionised water sprays at a very slow rate though.  So it takes a
very long time going over with the auto dry.  However, with the auto
dry I can be sure that the bodywork won't be scratched.  The roof came
out very well, but other part of the car had water marks left behind.
This may be due to the soap, but I'll have to see as time goes on.  The
de-ionised water costs around 50p/wash too, which I wouldn't normally
pay for a normal wash.

You can get a full refund during the first year, but I haven't got my
receipt, so I suspect that I won't be able to get my money back :-(

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>I got one of these a few weeks ago, and I think it's badly designed...
>
> When it's giving out normal tap water it's too powerful.  Firstly I
> wouldn't want to use a strong get to remove dirt from my car, and
> secondly it splashes everywhere.  If I used it correctly I would splash
> our houses windows, and my neighbours car.  Also if you're washing the
> car in sections (as the instructions tell you) then you'll splash the
> sections that have already been washed/dried.  The device it also too
> big to get under the wheel arches etc., so a normal attachment is
> required for a thorough wash.
>
> The soapy water gives out far too much, and you have no control over
> the flow, just an on/off switch.  A bucket is much better!  The soap
> also leaves a horrible oily film over everything, which is a nightmare
> when driving with the wipers on.  After a week with VERY heavy rain,
> and another wash, most of the oil on the windscreen has gone, but it is
> still on the rest of the car.  I'm not using the soap again.
>
> The de-ionised water sprays at a very slow rate though.  So it takes a
> very long time going over with the auto dry.  However, with the auto
> dry I can be sure that the bodywork won't be scratched.  The roof came
> out very well, but other part of the car had water marks left behind.
> This may be due to the soap, but I'll have to see as time goes on.  The
> de-ionised water costs around 50p/wash too, which I wouldn't normally
> pay for a normal wash.
>
> You can get a full refund during the first year, but I haven't got my
> receipt, so I suspect that I won't be able to get my money back :-(


Which? magazine reviewed this device recently and reckoned it was not worth 
bothering with. It also becomes expensive with the various liquids and 
filters you have to buy. I'll stick to my shampoo dispensing brush on the 
end of a hose!

Kev

wrote:


> I got one of these a few weeks ago, and I think it's badly designed...


User error. You can adjust the water pressure at the tap end of the
hose.

*wanders off shaking head*
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SteveH wrote:

>  wrote:
>
> > I got one of these a few weeks ago, and I think it's badly designed...
>
> User error. You can adjust the water pressure at the tap end of the
> hose.
>
> *wanders off shaking head*


I never thought about that :-o

Probably because the hose pipe attachment has always had adjustable
pressure.  I would get my money back, but I don't know what I've done
with my receipt :-(.  If anybody wants a flash car wash thing you can
have my one.  I don't know what I'm going to do with it.  I'll probably
give it to a charity shop or something.

wrote:


> SteveH wrote:
> >  wrote:
> >
> > > I got one of these a few weeks ago, and I think it's badly designed...
> >
> > User error. You can adjust the water pressure at the tap end of the
> > hose.
> >
> > *wanders off shaking head*
> 
> I never thought about that :-o
> 
> Probably because the hose pipe attachment has always had adjustable
> pressure.  I would get my money back, but I don't know what I've done
> with my receipt :-(.  If anybody wants a flash car wash thing you can
> have my one.  I don't know what I'm going to do with it.  I'll probably
> give it to a charity shop or something.


You just need to get used to using it.

I'm *very* happy with the results I get.

Mind you, our water is 'soft' - not sure how good it would be in 'hard'
water areas.
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http://www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - MZ ETZ300 - Alfa 75 TSpark
Alfa 156 2.0 TSpark Lusso - Passat 1.8 Turbo SE -  COSOC KOTL
BoTAFOT #87 - BoTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #

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>
> SteveH wrote:
> >  wrote:
> >
> > > I got one of these a few weeks ago, and I think it's badly designed...
> >
> > User error. You can adjust the water pressure at the tap end of the
> > hose.
> >
> > *wanders off shaking head*
>
> I never thought about that :-o
>
> Probably because the hose pipe attachment has always had adjustable
> pressure.  I would get my money back, but I don't know what I've done
> with my receipt :-(.  If anybody wants a flash car wash thing you can
> have my one.  I don't know what I'm going to do with it.  I'll probably
> give it to a charity shop or something.
>


well thanks for the offer but I will stick with my karcher and rotary brush
(plus the high pressure wand for the wheel arches)
works for me
Derek

SteveH wrote:

>  wrote:
> 
> 
>>SteveH wrote:
>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I got one of these a few weeks ago, and I think it's badly designed...
>>>
>>>User error. You can adjust the water pressure at the tap end of the
>>>hose.
>>>
>>>*wanders off shaking head*
>>
>>I never thought about that :-o
>>
>>Probably because the hose pipe attachment has always had adjustable
>>pressure.  I would get my money back, but I don't know what I've done
>>with my receipt :-(.  If anybody wants a flash car wash thing you can
>>have my one.  I don't know what I'm going to do with it.  I'll probably
>>give it to a charity shop or something.
> 
> 
> You just need to get used to using it.
> 
> I'm *very* happy with the results I get.
> 
> Mind you, our water is 'soft' - not sure how good it would be in 'hard'
> water areas.



probably chip the paint ;)

"SteveH"  wrote in message
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>  wrote:
>
> > SteveH wrote:
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > > > I got one of these a few weeks ago, and I think it's badly
designed...
> > >
> > > User error. You can adjust the water pressure at the tap end of the
> > > hose.
> > >
> > > *wanders off shaking head*
> >
> > I never thought about that :-o
> >
> > Probably because the hose pipe attachment has always had adjustable
> > pressure.  I would get my money back, but I don't know what I've done
> > with my receipt :-(.  If anybody wants a flash car wash thing you can
> > have my one.  I don't know what I'm going to do with it.  I'll probably
> > give it to a charity shop or something.
>
> You just need to get used to using it.
>
> I'm *very* happy with the results I get.


So am I.
It does give a good water mark free finish without the need for leathering.
Less than ten minutes to get a shiny car with little effort, can't be bad.
Only problem now is that we have a hosepipe ban. :-(
Mike.

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>
>  wrote in message
> news:1123341675.481581.39590@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> SteveH wrote:
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> > > I got one of these a few weeks ago, and I think it's badly 
>> > > designed...
>> >
>> > User error. You can adjust the water pressure at the tap end of the
>> > hose.
>> >
>> > *wanders off shaking head*
>>
>> I never thought about that :-o
>>
>> Probably because the hose pipe attachment has always had adjustable
>> pressure.  I would get my money back, but I don't know what I've done
>> with my receipt :-(.  If anybody wants a flash car wash thing you can
>> have my one.  I don't know what I'm going to do with it.  I'll probably
>> give it to a charity shop or something.
>>
>
> well thanks for the offer but I will stick with my karcher and rotary 
> brush
> (plus the high pressure wand for the wheel arches)
> works for me



I missed the first two posts, but I can well imagine! :)

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